User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 11/12/2023 7:58:58 AM EST
[#1]
What's up with the de-stack ???
 Problems at Boca? Starship unstacked again!! What's the deal?? |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/12/2023 8:04:56 AM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: What's up with the de-stack ???  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n4Uc-9qHm8 |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/12/2023 8:40:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: RiverSwine45]
[#3]
Didn't they demate during ordnance install last time, IIRC?
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/12/2023 8:47:17 AM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RiverSwine45: Didn't they demate during ordnance install last time, IIRC? No they didn't. Took the hot staging ring off too. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/12/2023 9:22:52 AM EST
[#5]
Maybe I should have said arming the FTS.
This is from page 330 Originally Posted By Chokey:
|
|
|
|
TX, USA
|
Posted: 11/12/2023 9:43:57 AM EST
[#6]
During the first launch, it was discovered that Butch didn't use enough dynamite.
Butch used enough dynamite to bring down the typical rocket, but not enough to bring down the Austenitic Stainless Steel monster rocket that is obviously armored and built for alien combat. We could see the holes poked through the tanks and the venting gasses escaping through them. But those puny holes weren't enough. This time, Butch will not let Sundance impune his quantity of dynamite. We have four Beatles walking guys worth of dynamite. If all goes well, next time won't require a fifth Beatle walking guy. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/12/2023 9:44:49 AM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RiverSwine45: Maybe I should have said arming the FTS. This is from page 330 No problem. I guess we will find out the reason for the de-stack soon enough. Rather odd doing it in the middle of a rainy Saturday night though. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/12/2023 10:32:23 AM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Houstons_Problem: Imagine being in a very special ballon that takes you up to 102,000 feet and you jump out to match Col. Joseph Kittinger's 1960 record setting jump. As you freefall at super sonic speeds, you see an SR-71 streaking across the Texas Gulf Coast 30,000 feet below you while the biggest rocket ever launched pulls off a hot stage separation 120,000 feet above you. America, Fuck Yeah is blasting from your com speakers. Godspeed Mr. Raging Freedom Boner former Blue Space Balls man. Godspeed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Houstons_Problem: Originally Posted By broken_reticle: They are giving me a freedom boner, better not give me space blue balls. As you freefall at super sonic speeds, you see an SR-71 streaking across the Texas Gulf Coast 30,000 feet below you while the biggest rocket ever launched pulls off a hot stage separation 120,000 feet above you. America, Fuck Yeah is blasting from your com speakers. Godspeed Mr. Raging Freedom Boner former Blue Space Balls man. Godspeed. The bald eagle was supposed to be wearing a space suit as well, and apparently DALL-E doesn't know what an SR-71, or the coast of Texas looks like. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/12/2023 11:15:46 AM EST
[#9]
 4 Beatles worth of dynamite.  The twin engine F-16 is cute too. 
|
|
|
|
TX, USA
|
Posted: 11/12/2023 11:41:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: Houstons_Problem]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MotorMouth: https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.KBeacWX6JCLlHDP8UVw_?pid=ImgGn https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.NMA06SpQ9TyLakzANp_P?pid=ImgGn The bald eagle was supposed to be wearing a space suit as well, and apparently DALL-E doesn't know what an SR-71, or the coast of Texas looks like. Please have the Eagle perched on astronauts shoulder facing down in swoop attack formation. Or even an entire squadron of eagles forming a V dive formation with astronaut at center of V. By the way, If I am ever attacked by a squadron of AI eagles and an AI supersonic terminator astronaut because you fed my idea to a primitive AI image generator, I will be screaming your name in vain. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/12/2023 12:07:36 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Houstons_Problem: By the way, If I am ever attacked by a squadron of AI eagles and an AI supersonic terminator astronaut because you fed my idea to a primitive AI image generator, I will be screaming your name in vain. If I had any drawing skills at all I would sketch that. "Damn you MotorMouth!" |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/12/2023 2:07:34 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Houstons_Problem: Oh my God. Brilliant. Thank you. Please have the Eagle perched on astronauts shoulder facing down in swoop attack formation. Or even an entire squadron of eagles forming a V dive formation with astronaut at center of V. By the way, If I am ever attacked by a squadron of AI eagles and an AI supersonic terminator astronaut because you fed my idea to a primitive AI image generator, I will be screaming your name in vain. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Houstons_Problem: Originally Posted By MotorMouth: https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.KBeacWX6JCLlHDP8UVw_?pid=ImgGn https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.NMA06SpQ9TyLakzANp_P?pid=ImgGn The bald eagle was supposed to be wearing a space suit as well, and apparently DALL-E doesn't know what an SR-71, or the coast of Texas looks like. Please have the Eagle perched on astronauts shoulder facing down in swoop attack formation. Or even an entire squadron of eagles forming a V dive formation with astronaut at center of V. By the way, If I am ever attacked by a squadron of AI eagles and an AI supersonic terminator astronaut because you fed my idea to a primitive AI image generator, I will be screaming your name in vain. I ran through a few iterations, based on your previous concept, and got the following before getting frustrated and hanging it up. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/12/2023 2:09:21 PM EST
[#13]
Also, "attacked by a squadron of AI eagles and an AI supersonic terminator astronaut" gives us the following:
And I'll stop with the derail now. 
|
|
|
|
TX, USA
|
Posted: 11/12/2023 2:33:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: Houstons_Problem]
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MotorMouth: Also, "attacked by a squadron of AI eagles and an AI supersonic terminator astronaut" gives us the following: https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.rOj1RpiAsCytx_vxqj4_?pid=ImgGn https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.k8Agxe7aHWgb0fPT77jI?pid=ImgGn https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.HAP1cIOlGWgsiHdLz1kV?pid=ImgGn And I'll stop with the derail now. 17 year old Me enjoying a leisurely ride to bring a basket of strawberries to Tess Natassja Kinski which suddenly transforms into 57 year old me pedaling a mountain bike furiously while screaming, "Damn you MotorMouth, Damn you all to Hell!" While being chased by exactly that first image scene as Planet of The Apes Astronaut, Charleton Heston laughs hysterically as I crash into Cat People Natassja Kinski turning into a jaguar. Fuck these silly Ai's, Where is FrogWater when you need him? |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/12/2023 2:36:55 PM EST
[#15]
Looks like the Space Shuttle Door Gunner is about to be retired.
|
|
|
|
TX, USA
|
Posted: 11/12/2023 2:48:52 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Looks like the Space Shuttle Door Gunner is about to be retired. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QfyNPXtWO8 |
|
|
TX, USA
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 9:25:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: SuperHeavy]
[#17]
Looks like a new approach to slowing them down. Link
Deaths, amputations, and serious injuries because SpaceX is going so fast they don't care about safety  Reuters documented at least 600 previously unreported workplace injuries at Musk’s rocket company: crushed limbs, amputations, electrocutions, head and eye wounds and one death. SpaceX employees say they’re paying the price for the billionaire’s push to colonize space at breakneck speed. The death was 2014 when a guy.... LeBlanc, a relatively new employee, offered a solution to hold down the load: He sat on it. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 9:40:26 AM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperHeavy: Looks like a new approach to slowing them down. Link Deaths, amputations, and serious injuries because SpaceX is going so fast they don't care about safety Reuters documented at least 600 previously unreported workplace injuries at Musk’s rocket company: crushed limbs, amputations, electrocutions, head and eye wounds and one death. SpaceX employees say they’re paying the price for the billionaire’s push to colonize space at breakneck speed. The death was 2014 when a guy.... LeBlanc, a relatively new employee, offered a solution to hold down the load: He sat on it. That user name... You aren't going to tell us that none of this shit happened are you? 
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 9:42:54 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperHeavy: Looks like a new approach to slowing them down. Link Deaths, amputations, and serious injuries because SpaceX is going so fast they don't care about safety Reuters documented at least 600 previously unreported workplace injuries at Musk’s rocket company: crushed limbs, amputations, electrocutions, head and eye wounds and one death. SpaceX employees say they’re paying the price for the billionaire’s push to colonize space at breakneck speed. The death was 2014 when a guy.... LeBlanc, a relatively new employee, offered a solution to hold down the load: He sat on it. Move fast and break things. Space exploration will result in injuries and death, not just by astronauts. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 11:39:25 AM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperHeavy: Looks like a new approach to slowing them down. Link Deaths, amputations, and serious injuries because SpaceX is going so fast they don't care about safety Reuters documented at least 600 previously unreported workplace injuries at Musk’s rocket company: crushed limbs, amputations, electrocutions, head and eye wounds and one death. SpaceX employees say they’re paying the price for the billionaire’s push to colonize space at breakneck speed. The death was 2014 when a guy.... LeBlanc, a relatively new employee, offered a solution to hold down the load: He sat on it. Aviation results in bad injuries, so why should it be surprising to see it at SpaceX? I ended up with a dislocated knee while working on an airport ramp. Could have also gotten a bad head injury, if I hadn't been wearing a heavy coat and thought quickly enough to tuck my chin into my chest and let my shoulders take the impact when I was thrown across the ramp. The second time I put out an avgas fire with a handheld fire extinguisher, a guy (whose wife worked in the Vanderbilt burn ward) walked up to me a moment later and said "you're supposed to run away from fire, not toward fire". I couldn't really argue against his logic, but the fire needed to be put out before it spread. Then there's the guys that seem to have a habit of ignoring safety procedures, because they think those procedures are stupid, but it seems like it's usually somebody else that gets injured by their stupidity, and management is (for some reason) reluctant to remove them from the property. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 1:33:11 PM EST
[#21]
You think the FWC is the Devil ?
OSHA has entered the chat. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 1:43:42 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: You think the FWC is the Devil ? OSHA has entered the chat.  |
|
|
|
TX, USA
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 1:57:54 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RiverSwine45: That user name... You aren't going to tell us that none of this shit happened are you? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RiverSwine45: Originally Posted By SuperHeavy: Looks like a new approach to slowing them down. Link Deaths, amputations, and serious injuries because SpaceX is going so fast they don't care about safety Reuters documented at least 600 previously unreported workplace injuries at Musk’s rocket company: crushed limbs, amputations, electrocutions, head and eye wounds and one death. SpaceX employees say they’re paying the price for the billionaire’s push to colonize space at breakneck speed. The death was 2014 when a guy.... LeBlanc, a relatively new employee, offered a solution to hold down the load: He sat on it. That user name... You aren't going to tell us that none of this shit happened are you? I'm sure most of the injuries are true.... but the timing of the hit piece...with the pending second launch |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 1:59:40 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperHeavy: Looks like a new approach to slowing them down. Link Deaths, amputations, and serious injuries because SpaceX is going so fast they don't care about safety The death was 2014 when a guy.... If they think that's the only death spacex will cause...I've got a bridge to sell. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 2:00:47 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperHeavy: I'm sure most of the injuries are true.... but the timing of the hit piece...with the pending second launch Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperHeavy: Originally Posted By RiverSwine45: Originally Posted By SuperHeavy: Looks like a new approach to slowing them down. Link Deaths, amputations, and serious injuries because SpaceX is going so fast they don't care about safety Reuters documented at least 600 previously unreported workplace injuries at Musk’s rocket company: crushed limbs, amputations, electrocutions, head and eye wounds and one death. SpaceX employees say they’re paying the price for the billionaire’s push to colonize space at breakneck speed. The death was 2014 when a guy.... LeBlanc, a relatively new employee, offered a solution to hold down the load: He sat on it. That user name... You aren't going to tell us that none of this shit happened are you? I'm sure most of the injuries are true.... but the timing of the hit piece...with the pending second launch The Biden administration HATES Elon Musk. Mostly because he is anti-Union at Tesla, but also more recently because he took away Twitter as a valuable tool from them. He dared to question the narrative, so now he is their enemy. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 2:01:29 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: If they think that's the only death spacex will cause...I've got a bridge to sell. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: Originally Posted By SuperHeavy: Looks like a new approach to slowing them down. Link Deaths, amputations, and serious injuries because SpaceX is going so fast they don't care about safety The death was 2014 when a guy.... If they think that's the only death spacex will cause...I've got a bridge to sell. Yeah, at some point, there's going to be a HUGE loss of life with a SpaceX vehicle. It might be years from now, but it will definitely happen. |
|
|
|
TX, USA
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 2:13:58 PM EST
[#27]
Also, forgot to add, with 24/7 live feeds, how many ambulances have been spotted rushing in/out.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 2:36:23 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperHeavy: Also, forgot to add, with 24/7 live feeds, how many ambulances have been spotted rushing in/out. They probably have their own med facilities like they do at the Cape, may even have their own ambulance(s) on site too. Any casualty is first transported to the band aid shack and if it's determined an ambulance is needed then one is called to the shack or they use their own for transport, or put the injured in to a taxi for a ride to the hospital if that patient is stable and not dying. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 3:07:53 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Yeah, at some point, there's going to be a HUGE loss of life with a SpaceX vehicle. It might be years from now, but it will definitely happen. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By burnka871: Originally Posted By SuperHeavy: Looks like a new approach to slowing them down. Link Deaths, amputations, and serious injuries because SpaceX is going so fast they don't care about safety The death was 2014 when a guy.... If they think that's the only death spacex will cause...I've got a bridge to sell. Yeah, at some point, there's going to be a HUGE loss of life with a SpaceX vehicle. It might be years from now, but it will definitely happen. Like when an airliner crashes and kills hundreds of people in one go? Good thing we stopped using those things! |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 3:11:59 PM EST
[#30]
Daring to do Mighty Things carry's risk.
Risk can not be eliminated. It can only be minimized. Not matter what, people will be injured and killed while doing anything at all... including doing nothing. People die lying in bed. Construction ... especially heavy steel construction will have injuries. It's just inherent. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 3:14:24 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By astro_wanabe: Like when an airliner crashes and kills hundreds of people in one go? Good thing we stopped using those things! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By astro_wanabe: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By burnka871: Originally Posted By SuperHeavy: Looks like a new approach to slowing them down. Link Deaths, amputations, and serious injuries because SpaceX is going so fast they don't care about safety The death was 2014 when a guy.... If they think that's the only death spacex will cause...I've got a bridge to sell. Yeah, at some point, there's going to be a HUGE loss of life with a SpaceX vehicle. It might be years from now, but it will definitely happen. Like when an airliner crashes and kills hundreds of people in one go? Good thing we stopped using those things! It's not meant as a criticism. It's just a statement of fact. Musk's ultimate plan/goal is to build a city on Mars. I imagine that thousands of people will die in that attempt, either en-route or on Mars. To me, that is totally worth it. |
|
|
|
TX, USA
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 3:20:07 PM EST
[#32]
I saw the first launch in person. Had a great time.
Really hoped to see the second launch in person but will be away if launches before Thanksgiving holiday is over. As much as I want to see it in person, I hope it launches soon. Perhaps the third launch will take place before April of next year. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 3:23:02 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: It's not meant as a criticism. It's just a statement of fact. Musk's ultimate plan/goal is to build a city on Mars. I imagine that thousands of people will die in that attempt, either en-route or on Mars. To me, that is totally worth it. How many people died en-route or in America during initial colonization? An entire colony was lost without a trace. It was worth it. Similarly Moving out into space... whether that's to the Moon, Mars, or space stations is worth it. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 4:03:39 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: You think the FWC is the Devil ? OSHA has entered the chat. You think OSHA is Satan? MSHA has entered the chat. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 4:09:18 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iwouldntknow: You think OSHA is Satan? MSHA has entered the chat. Had to look that up. You could be on to something. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 4:09:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: Dagger41]
[#36]
Double tap.
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 4:19:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: mousehunter]
[#37]
Missed the first launch, saw the abort the day before but did not stay the extra night. Hoped to make the second, but honestly my schedule sucks till December just playing the odds right now. If the delay continues - 50/50. If they manage to launch before December, probably not. Just came off of working 6 days a week, to add 10 12hr days till next Monday (today is a rain out)- then have to catch up with admin work that is due by the end of the month (a year's worth of admin work - 40hrs worth).
|
|
|
|
OH, USA
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 4:25:11 PM EST
[#38]
Perhaps they'll launch on Thanksgiving day.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 5:07:23 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyMetal: Marcus House is good. My birdie told me it’s approved and will be announced Monday. Today was a federal holiday. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 5:11:44 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Houstons_Problem: Imagine being in a very special ballon that takes you up to 102,000 feet and you jump out to match Col. Joseph Kittinger's 1960 record setting jump. As you freefall at super sonic speeds, you see an SR-71 streaking across the Texas Gulf Coast 30,000 feet below you while the biggest rocket ever launched pulls off a hot stage separation 120,000 feet above you. America, Fuck Yeah is blasting from your com speakers. Godspeed Mr. Raging Freedom Boner former Blue Space Balls man. Godspeed. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 5:34:19 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Furloaf: Perhaps they'll launch on Thanksgiving day. That would be OK by me, even a two day delay bump to my birthday would suit me just fine. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 8:16:47 PM EST
[#42]
|
|
|
|
WLF
|
Posted: 11/13/2023 9:14:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: LurkerII]
[#43]
Live in 3 days *Pending Regulatory Approval:
 Full Replay: SpaceX Launches Second Starship Flight Test |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/14/2023 12:05:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: Fulcrum-5]
[#44]
 
|
|
|
|
LA, USA
|
Posted: 11/14/2023 12:17:51 AM EST
[#45]
Let’s Go!
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/14/2023 1:04:39 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By astro_wanabe: Like when an airliner crashes and kills hundreds of people in one go? Good thing we stopped using those things! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By astro_wanabe: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By burnka871: Originally Posted By SuperHeavy: Looks like a new approach to slowing them down. Link Deaths, amputations, and serious injuries because SpaceX is going so fast they don't care about safety The death was 2014 when a guy.... If they think that's the only death spacex will cause...I've got a bridge to sell. Yeah, at some point, there's going to be a HUGE loss of life with a SpaceX vehicle. It might be years from now, but it will definitely happen. Like when an airliner crashes and kills hundreds of people in one go? Good thing we stopped using those things! If only people would listen.  Attached File |
|
|
|
FL, USA
|
Posted: 11/14/2023 2:17:04 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperHeavy: Looks like a new approach to slowing them down. Link Deaths, amputations, and serious injuries because SpaceX is going so fast they don't care about safety Reuters documented at least 600 previously unreported workplace injuries at Musk’s rocket company: crushed limbs, amputations, electrocutions, head and eye wounds and one death. SpaceX employees say they’re paying the price for the billionaire’s push to colonize space at breakneck speed. The death was 2014 when a guy.... LeBlanc, a relatively new employee, offered a solution to hold down the load: He sat on it. Considering the average rate per 100 employees is about 3.0 across all industries, and Brownsville is basically a perpetual high-intensity industrial construction zone, I'd say the numbers provided look fairly good. Hell, in the past two years I've averaged about 1.5 reportable injuries...and can think of at least half a dozen others at work I've seen. Our rate at my agency is probably double that of the SpaceX average lol. The most notable datum from the article is that Reuters is definitively on the payroll of the same entities behind the Democrats. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/14/2023 8:16:02 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WesJanson: The most notable datum from the article is that Reuters is definitively on the payroll of the same entities behind 
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/14/2023 8:19:13 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fulcrum-5:
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/14/2023 8:36:11 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fulcrum-5:
https://media.tenor.com/tLN8s3PoWxEAAAAd/elon-musk-dancing.gif https://media0.giphy.com/media/8fdyQEwaY63cOc2IED/giphy.gif?cid=790b76110a88z4z6zy71epjdfa0845uf3x8hf9ahriec6sqs&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g 
|
|
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
.jpg)
