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Posted: 11/9/2023 12:00:33 PM EST
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If it works fairly well this time, it will be a lot sooner to the next flight, possibly before the years end.
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Posted: 11/9/2023 12:20:50 PM EST
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Posted: 11/9/2023 12:24:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Furloaf: Do you think they carry the shaped charges facing away from themselves or not bother? Probably be dead either way if it happened to go off. I'm sure they know what they are doing.   The LadyKillers - C4 Safety Meeting |
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Posted: 11/9/2023 12:47:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyMetal: If it works fairly well this time, it will be a lot sooner to the next flight, possibly before the years end. |
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Posted: 11/9/2023 1:15:08 PM EST
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 What to Expect for SpaceX Starship's Second Flight Test (Countdown & Trajectory) |
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Posted: 11/9/2023 1:23:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:  they're up on the booster right now.
IIRC the battery life of the FTS was an issue with OFT-1 and it was a roll of the dice as to leave them up therefor an extra day or 2. That's why I mention it could be a rehearsal for everybody to get their ducks in a row and not miss any steps for when the time comes. |
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Posted: 11/9/2023 1:58:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By woodsie: It's a huge problem. SpaceX really needs to be launching routinely soon if they hope to even have a prayer of supporting the Artemis 3 mission. I'm not sure we will take this serious until China sends some dudes to lap the moon. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By woodsie: Originally Posted By 4q2: . Gov agencies fuck up everything they touch . I want to see launches , lots of launches if that’s what it takes to get this right . It's a huge problem. SpaceX really needs to be launching routinely soon if they hope to even have a prayer of supporting the Artemis 3 mission. I'm not sure we will take this serious until China sends some dudes to lap the moon. Exactly. I assume the FAA and other related agencies have just become so accustomed to how Old Space does it, that it's no big deal to take six months or a year to review stuff, because after a big laugh (and a failure), it would take Old Space at least a year or two to make design changes and build a new rocket. The idea that a re-designed/modified rocket could be ready in a few months after the previous launch is just so unusual that I am not sure FAA are really prepared to deal with it. But, hopefully as they work more and more with SpaceX, they will be able to adjust. I mean, as slow as we think this whole process it, I have no doubt it could be a LOT slower.
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Posted: 11/9/2023 2:43:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyMetal: If it works fairly well this time, it will be a lot sooner to the next flight, possibly before the years end. I firmly believe the nutty enviros are trying to delay this as long as they can because they know that if the next launch doesn't fuck up the wetlands area, the launches will start happening at a faster pace and you know....we can't have that. Hopefully all the ducks are in a row and the enviros will soon be kicked in the teeth !!! |
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Posted: 11/9/2023 2:50:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cobradriver: I firmly believe the nutty enviros are trying to delay this as long as they can because they know that if the next launch doesn't fuck up the wetlands area, the launches will start happening at a faster pace and you know....we can't have that. Hopefully all the ducks are in a row and the enviros will soon be kicked in the teeth !!! Starship is humanities key to spreading life through the solar system. If these people had the smallest smidgeon of mental consistency they should be massively in favor of this project. But they don't, because they are nothing more than the willing puppets dancing on the strings of various powerful and profoundly anti-life forces. They don't help the environment they only serve as cannon fodder for the looming chaos. |
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Posted: 11/9/2023 4:54:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kill-9: But if any little thing goes wrong, we should expect months of "investigations" to follow. If it gets past staging, that will be good enough if the FTS works properly. |
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Posted: 11/9/2023 4:54:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: IIRC the battery life of the FTS was an issue with OFT-1 and it was a roll of the dice as to leave them up therefor an extra day or 2. That's why I mention it could be a rehearsal for everybody to get their ducks in a row and not miss any steps for when the time comes. You are assuming they haven’t upgraded the batteries. |
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Posted: 11/9/2023 8:07:21 PM EST
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Elon was on Lex Fridman's podcast again and had a couple short anecdotes about SpaceX's dealings with USFWL. Hotlinked instead of embedded because timecodes don't appear to work with embedding.
https://youtu.be/JN3KPFbWCy8?t=4680 |
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Posted: 11/9/2023 9:16:05 PM EST
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LOL seals with headphones.
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Posted: 11/9/2023 9:32:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shooter_gregg: LOL seals with headphones. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 5:59:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyMetal: You are assuming they haven’t upgraded the batteries. Yes I am. or the entire FTS setup for that matter. It didn't work too well on the last flight. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 6:43:08 AM EST
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Posted: 11/10/2023 6:59:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Yes I am. or the entire FTS setup for that matter. It didn't work too well on the last flight. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Originally Posted By HeavyMetal: You are assuming they haven’t upgraded the batteries. Yes I am. or the entire FTS setup for that matter. It didn't work too well on the last flight. With all the other upgrades they’ve made that are significantly more complicated than the FTS why would you assume there haven’t been any upgrades to the FTS? |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 8:15:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: LurkerII]
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While you slept overnight.... Stacked!
 SpaceX Stacks Ship 25 on Booster 9 Some cool shots of the spotlights illuminating the ship's engines during stack. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 8:26:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CleverNickname: Elon was on Lex Fridman's podcast again and had a couple short anecdotes about SpaceX's dealings with USFWL. Hotlinked instead of embedded because timecodes don't appear to work with embedding. https://youtu.be/JN3KPFbWCy8?t=4680 |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 10:11:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: Dagger41]
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This is interesting, look at the dates. Comms license for OFT-3 ?
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Posted: 11/10/2023 10:15:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fox2008: With all the other upgrades they’ve made that are significantly more complicated than the FTS why would you assume there haven’t been any upgrades to the FTS? I tend to try not to assume anything when it comes operations at Boca Chica. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 10:42:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: I tend to try not to assume anything when it comes operations at Boca Chica. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Originally Posted By fox2008: With all the other upgrades they’ve made that are significantly more complicated than the FTS why would you assume there haven’t been any upgrades to the FTS? I tend to try not to assume anything when it comes operations at Boca Chica. I think one of the NSF videos stated they had increased the number or size of the FTS points on the rocket. I do remember they tested an fts charge on a pressurized tank at massies after the first launch. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 11:46:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: I tend to try not to assume anything when it comes operations at Boca Chica. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Originally Posted By fox2008: With all the other upgrades they've made that are significantly more complicated than the FTS why would you assume there haven't been any upgrades to the FTS? I tend to try not to assume anything when it comes operations at Boca Chica. Nick |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:08:08 PM EST
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Big announcement at 5 p.m. EDT.
 FAA will issue Starship launch license TODAY!! My riskiest prediction yet! |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:12:47 PM EST
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Awesome
Wish I could make it for the launch. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 5:30:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Big announcement at 5 p.m. EDT.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bEl1UkpYUThey weren't kidding when they said he's a clickbaiter now.  |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 5:32:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: LurkerII]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: They weren't kidding when they said he's a clickbaiter now. Yea, Federal Holiday and all, no way a license gets issued today. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 5:44:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fox2008: With all the other upgrades they’ve made that are significantly more complicated than the FTS why would you assume there haven’t been any upgrades to the FTS? they did testing for upgraded fts system. idk about battery life, you really don't want the fts system locked and loaded for very long before a launch anyway. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 6:34:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: They weren't kidding when they said he's a clickbaiter now. AA has ALWAYS been a clickbaiter. He’s the junk food of the YouTube space personas. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 6:52:04 PM EST
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I try to stick to WAI and Everyday Astronaut.
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Posted: 11/10/2023 6:57:44 PM EST
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Just finished watching the latest Scott Manley Deep Space Update.
Really? I find out from him that they are using an OV-10 Bronco to patrol airspace in that area? |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 7:13:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Just finished watching the latest Scott Manley Deep Space Update. Really? I find out from him that they are using an OV-10 Bronco to patrol airspace in that area?
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Posted: 11/10/2023 7:29:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: I try to stick to WAI and Everyday Astronaut. Felix (WAI) is as annoying as Shapiro. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 8:54:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanPeople: Felix (WAI) is as annoying as Shapiro. He's an irresponsible asshole with zero credibility. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 9:01:32 PM EST
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Marcus House is good.
My birdie told me it’s approved and will be announced Monday. Today was a federal holiday. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 9:21:54 PM EST
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Posted: 11/10/2023 11:16:58 PM EST
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They seem rather insistent.
 Starship | Preparing for Second Flight Test They also posted this.  Falcon 1, Flight 4 |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 11:25:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By woodsie: It's a huge problem. SpaceX really needs to be launching routinely soon if they hope to even have a prayer of supporting the Artemis 3 mission. I'm not sure we will take this serious until China sends some dudes to lap the moon. Even if Starship and Starship-HLS runs long.....I kinda doubt that Artemis missions will be held up waiting on them. There's a bunch of moving parts (and funding) involved, mostly from programs and agencies with much, much less impressive schedule-achievements than SpaceX. |
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Posted: 11/11/2023 12:04:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
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Posted: 11/11/2023 12:12:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: They seem rather insistent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18pCXD709TIThey also posted this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq2hymWPN1IThey are giving me a freedom boner, better not give me space blue balls. |
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Posted: 11/11/2023 1:00:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Exactly. I assume the FAA and other related agencies have just become so accustomed to how Old Space does it, that it's no big deal to take six months or a year to review stuff, because after a big laugh (and a failure), it would take Old Space at least a year or two to make design changes and build a new rocket. The idea that a re-designed/modified rocket could be ready in a few months after the previous launch is just so unusual that I am not sure FAA are really prepared to deal with it. But, hopefully as they work more and more with SpaceX, they will be able to adjust. I mean, as slow as we think this whole process it, I have no doubt it could be a LOT slower. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By woodsie: Originally Posted By 4q2: . Gov agencies fuck up everything they touch . I want to see launches , lots of launches if that’s what it takes to get this right . It's a huge problem. SpaceX really needs to be launching routinely soon if they hope to even have a prayer of supporting the Artemis 3 mission. I'm not sure we will take this serious until China sends some dudes to lap the moon. Exactly. I assume the FAA and other related agencies have just become so accustomed to how Old Space does it, that it's no big deal to take six months or a year to review stuff, because after a big laugh (and a failure), it would take Old Space at least a year or two to make design changes and build a new rocket. The idea that a re-designed/modified rocket could be ready in a few months after the previous launch is just so unusual that I am not sure FAA are really prepared to deal with it. But, hopefully as they work more and more with SpaceX, they will be able to adjust. I mean, as slow as we think this whole process it, I have no doubt it could be a LOT slower. The big problem with all the agencies is that they actively work against companies and people rather than for them. I don't know how you go about solving it. There are helpful people within the institutions but as a whole they seem to enjoy forcing their will. It's a real problem. |
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Posted: 11/11/2023 1:15:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Starship is humanities key to spreading life through the solar system. If these people had the smallest smidgeon of mental consistency they should be massively in favor of this project. But they don't, because they are nothing more than the willing puppets dancing on the strings of various powerful and profoundly anti-life forces. They don't help the environment they only serve as cannon fodder for the looming chaos. It makes a lot more sense when you realize that a great many environmentalists want humanity to go extinct. |
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Posted: 11/11/2023 1:17:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: They seem rather insistent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18pCXD709TIThey also posted this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq2hymWPN1I |
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Posted: 11/11/2023 1:37:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: Houstons_Problem]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By broken_reticle: They are giving me a freedom boner, better not give me space blue balls. As you freefall at super sonic speeds, you see an SR-71 streaking across the Texas Gulf Coast 30,000 feet below you while the biggest rocket ever launched pulls off a hot stage separation 120,000 feet above you. America, Fuck Yeah is blasting from your com speakers. Godspeed Mr. Raging Freedom Boner former Blue Space Balls man. Godspeed. |
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Posted: 11/11/2023 7:09:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: LurkerII]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FALFOX: It makes a lot more sense when you realize that a great many environmentalists want humanity to go extinct. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FALFOX: It makes a lot more sense when you realize that a great many environmentalists want humanity to go extinct. Libs are so illogical, then lets pollute the fuck out of the environment with Rocket goo goo and hasten the extinction then. Originally Posted By Chokey:
Excellent, I'm off on Friday the 17th! Launch party! |
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Posted: 11/11/2023 7:34:43 AM EST
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"Only The Paranoid Survive"
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Posted: 11/11/2023 8:24:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Just finished watching the latest Scott Manley Deep Space Update. Really? I find out from him that they are using an OV-10 Bronco to patrol airspace in that area? I want to believe but it's most likely just being used for fun nowadays. A long time ago I knew the guys operating that plane when it was a DoS coke buster in South America. It's for sale right now if anyone is interested. |
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Posted: 11/11/2023 1:15:50 PM EST
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Posted: 11/11/2023 1:21:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: I try to stick to WAI and Everyday Astronaut. Scott manley, marcus house, rgv arial and nasa space flight all do a good job. |
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Posted: 11/11/2023 6:44:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MtnMusic: Are those surplus rocket boxes? That's cool.... "Yo dawg, I heard you like rockets, so here's some rocket boxes to put in your rocket". Meanwhile, NASA would need to hire a new DEI coordinator to determine the gender and intersectional details for the individuals chosen to carry their $20 million custom parts.... Probably not Surplus, usually you pick something that's already around in production for shipping - but you use new. This can be annoying, when you have to use new cans, but most of what's available on the market is technically used (even if it's NOS, etc - if it's not straight from the manufacturer, it's not new) |
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