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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:45:01 PM EDT
[#1]
A Dutchman thinly veiling begging for trillions more US taxpayer dollars, to protect himself, over the next twenty years. What’s new?
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:46:49 PM EDT
[#2]
Somebody is trying to line up their retirement gig with the MIC.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:48:30 PM EDT
[#3]
Im a damn genius…
In the history of mankind, we’ve always had a years long big war after a short period of relative peace I should write an article |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:49:16 PM EDT
[#4]
20 years
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:51:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia, who can’t overrun Ukraine, is going to steamroll Europe? This |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:57:48 PM EDT
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If Victoria Nuland can help it, she'll make it even sooner than 20 years.
Dog ain't gonna wag itself: 
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:58:43 PM EDT
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20 years??
All the media is doing with these predictions is warming up the public to the idea. Next week the prediction will be 5 years following next, 5 months. The military exercises, the posturing, all just conditioning for the large percentage of the population that has no clue. Any day now somebody will fuck up and shoot something at somebody who will say "fuck it". |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:58:43 PM EDT
[#8]
We’ve always been at war with Eurasia.
East Asia is our Ally. Facebook is our strength. Google is our friend. War is peace. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:58:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A Dutchman thinly veiling begging for trillions more US taxpayer dollars, to protect himself, over the next twenty years. What's new? |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:01:11 PM EDT
[#10]
I think they mean NATO intends to start an all-out war in the next 20.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:05:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude. We can't even stomp Iran's toadies.  Our military is currently under strength, it's overcommitted, and it's run by incompetents. Fighting Russia, in Russia, would be a bloodbath for us. You severely underestimate just how much of Russia's warfighting capability Putin has squandered on Ukraine. And they're too broke to replace what they've lost. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:09:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is true; we do have the potential to defeat any country on the planet. IF we are willing to almost double the current size of our military; IF we are willing to cut social programs, or raise taxes, or both, to fund that build up; IF we are willing to radically change our industrial policies in order to supply that build up; and IF we are willing to reinstate the draft in order to man that build up. So IF we are willing to do all that THEN we will be back at the point we were post-Desert Storm as the World's Only Superpower. But given current political realities, that is even less likely than the US Marines re-taking Crimea. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Russia can't beat fucking Ukraine. Putin is NOT going to attack any NATO country. They need to find a new/better/realistic Boogeyman. Now would be a good time for us to go stomp Russia. Problem solved. Our military is currently under strength, it's overcommitted, and it's run by incompetents. Fighting Russia, in Russia, would be a bloodbath for us. We could stomp any country on the planet. All we lack is the will to do it. IF we are willing to almost double the current size of our military; IF we are willing to cut social programs, or raise taxes, or both, to fund that build up; IF we are willing to radically change our industrial policies in order to supply that build up; and IF we are willing to reinstate the draft in order to man that build up. So IF we are willing to do all that THEN we will be back at the point we were post-Desert Storm as the World's Only Superpower. But given current political realities, that is even less likely than the US Marines re-taking Crimea. We have everything we need, except for the will to use what we have. You're talking about an invasion/ground war. That would be stupid. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:12:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You severely underestimate just how much of Russia's warfighting capability Putin has squandered on Ukraine. And they're too broke to replace what they've lost.  Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Every Day to 2024 using Google Earth I think you severely underestimate just how strong Russia is, even after two years of sanctions and casualties. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:16:29 PM EDT
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I’m in favor a nuclear first strike against Russia. They wouldn’t be able to respond to our launches in time. They are a rabid dog that needs to be put down.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:18:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WWIII will be a welcome distraction from the economic collapse in merica.  |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:19:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm in favor a nuclear first strike against Russia. They wouldn't be able to respond to our launches in time. They are a rabid dog that needs to be put down. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:20:09 PM EDT
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Quoted: Civilians must prepare for all-out war with Russia in the next 20 years, a top Nato military official has warned. While armed forces are primed for the outbreak of war, private citizens need to be ready for a conflict that would require wholesale change in their lives, Adml Rob Bauer said on Thursday. Large numbers of civilians will need to be mobilised in case of the outbreak of war and governments should put in place systems to manage the process, Adml Bauer told reporters after a meeting of Nato defence chiefs in Brussels. "We have to realise it's not a given that we are in peace. And that's why we [Nato forces] are preparing for a conflict with Russia. "But the discussion is much wider. It is also the industrial base and also the people that have to understand they play a role." Adml Bauer, a Dutch naval officer who is chairman of Nato's Military Committee, praised Sweden for asking all of its citizens to brace for war ahead of the country formally joining the alliance. Stockholm's move, announced earlier this month, has led to a surge in volunteers for the country's civil defence organisation and a spike in sales of torches and battery-powered radios. moar https://media1.tenor.com/m/-tTyb4V8n2MAAAAC/no-country-for-old-men-no-country.gif lol They "forgot" the spike in sales of ARs. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:21:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 20 years, huh? Going out on a limb with that prediction. Prediction made in 1950 (NATO formed) Prediction restated in 1970 (Height of the Cold War) Prediction relaxed in 1990-2000 (Collapse of USSR) Prediction reinstated in 2000 (Putin comes to power) Prediction restated in 2014 (Putin Invades Ukraine 1.0) Prediction restated in 2022 (Putin Invades Ukraine 2.0) And now we are being told "Prepare for War with the Russians within the next 20 years" ... |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:22:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol They "forgot" the spike in sales of ARs. Can you actually buy an AR in Sweden? I'm genuinely curious. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:22:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, no. China? Yes. Russia? No. All that said, the warmongers and globalists sure are beating that war drum, arent they?!? Any Chinese move in the Pacific that draws the US in will also have a Russian European component. The US will have three Pacific areas to fight in, (Taiwan, Japan and Korea) and will only be in a support role in Europe, also given issues in the Middle East and Latin America. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:23:16 PM EDT
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Wouldn’t be my war. If it was shit would be very bad.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:23:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude. We can't even stomp Iran's toadies. Our military is currently under strength, it's overcommitted, and it's run by incompetents. Fighting Russia, in Russia, would be a bloodbath for us. Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude. We can't even stomp Iran's toadies. Our military is currently under strength, it's overcommitted, and it's run by incompetents. Fighting Russia, in Russia, would be a bloodbath for us. Another grand failure of the mighty Patriot Pac-3 shit in Iraq recently. The U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) revealed later that a mix of rockets and ballistic missiles was used in the attack on al-Asad Air Base. “Most of the missiles were intercepted by the base’s air defense systems while others impacted on the base. Damage assessments are ongoing,” the command said in a statement posted to X, previously known as Twitter. This is the US’s second largest base in Iraq, well protected with all the most advanced air defense networks - and they could not stop a minor rocket attack. Yet we’re supposed to believe that downgraded and older versions of Patriots (Pac-2s, etc.) in Ukraine are stopping Russian hypersonic Kinzhals with 100% ratios?  There comes a point where the propaganda is so damn laughable that one has to feel bad for the fools that actually believe (and regurgitate) it. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:25:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We could stomp any country on the planet. All we lack is the will to do it. Then why is USkraine not busting at the seams with artillery shells and crying about how they have ran out of room to store them all before they can be used? 
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:26:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @swede1986 Can you actually buy an AR in Sweden? I'm genuinely curious. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lol They "forgot" the spike in sales of ARs. Can you actually buy an AR in Sweden? I'm genuinely curious. Yes. They've been legal for target shooting for years, but in August it was allowed for hunting as well. The vast majority of gun owners are hunters, and now people are flocking to the AR. Everything is backordered for months, dealers can't keep up with demand. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:27:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: Civilians must prepare for all-out war with Russia in the next 20 years, a top Nato military official has warned. While armed forces are primed for the outbreak of war, private citizens need to be ready for a conflict that would require wholesale change in their lives, Adml Rob Bauer said on Thursday. Large numbers of civilians will need to be mobilised in case of the outbreak of war and governments should put in place systems to manage the process, Adml Bauer told reporters after a meeting of Nato defence chiefs in Brussels. "We have to realise it's not a given that we are in peace. And that's why we [Nato forces] are preparing for a conflict with Russia. "But the discussion is much wider. It is also the industrial base and also the people that have to understand they play a role." Adml Bauer, a Dutch naval officer who is chairman of Nato's Military Committee, praised Sweden for asking all of its citizens to brace for war ahead of the country formally joining the alliance. Stockholm's move, announced earlier this month, has led to a surge in volunteers for the country's civil defence organisation and a spike in sales of torches and battery-powered radios. moar https://media1.tenor.com/m/-tTyb4V8n2MAAAAC/no-country-for-old-men-no-country.gif I think I've been hearing that all 32 years of my life. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:27:27 PM EDT
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Lmao. It’s funny how everyone is wetting their panties always searching for various possible external threats, enemies, threatening hostile foreign countries, Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, terror organizations , like the taliban, etc who might attack the USA some day, when the truth of the matter is, the biggest threat to us citizens is right here at home, right now, endlessly working tirelessly building up its war machine for attacking us citizens and their freedoms, fuck it’s ALREADY attacking , and been attacking the US citizens, their freedoms and way of life.
Right now, IMHO the current situation in the USA is comparable to Germany in the 1930s, when the Nazis were busy serving power via hook and crook, voter fraud and violence , like the democrats and swamp are busily doing right now, using very similar tactics, propaganda, party protected and financed brown shirt thugs ( antifa, blm, fbi etc ) attacking political opponents and their supporters, once they gain any government power , agency, court, judge, etc, it’s immediately turned against their political opponents. The current REGIME is holding political prisoners, and abusing power of government, denying rights and due process, using agencies to investigate citizens, target citizens, weaponized agencies, such as fbi, border patrol to flood the country with foreigners to destroy stability, create chaos, grow gov power and undermine voting even farther and faster. We all know how that ended, except the democrats won’t be shoving Jews into camps, it will be conservatives, Christians and anyone who refuses to kiss their ass. The US government is a 100x bigger threat to US citizens than any foreign country, military, terrorist group, etc. in 20 years we’re more likely to be fighting a civil war here, vs fighting Russia / China, although China / Russia will probably be air dropping conex containers filled with comblock weapons to the rebels, so… |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:31:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @swede1986 Can you actually buy an AR in Sweden? I'm genuinely curious. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lol They "forgot" the spike in sales of ARs. Can you actually buy an AR in Sweden? I'm genuinely curious. I'm guessing you just have to jump through fifty hoops and pay The Man. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:32:19 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m in favor a nuclear first strike against Russia. They wouldn’t be able to respond to our launches in time. They are a rabid dog that needs to be put down. 
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:32:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then why is USkraine not busting at the seams with artillery shells and crying about how they have ran out of room to store them all before they can be used? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We could stomp any country on the planet. All we lack is the will to do it. Then why is USkraine not busting at the seams with artillery shells and crying about how they have ran out of room to store them all before they can be used? You can't stomp a country with artillery. That's more like kicking dirt at them. They'll just kick it back at you. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:36:25 PM EDT
[#30]
Lol no.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:36:36 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Another grand failure of the mighty Patriot Pac-3 shit in Iraq recently. This is the US’s second largest base in Iraq, well protected with all the most advanced air defense networks - and they could not stop a minor rocket attack. Yet we’re supposed to believe that downgraded and older versions of Patriots (Pac-2s, etc.) in Ukraine are stopping Russian hypersonic Kinzhals with 100% ratios? There comes a point where the propaganda is so damn laughable that one has to feel bad for the fools that actually believe (and regurgitate) it. Maybe, like everything Russia produces, Kinzhals are just overhyped garbage. See S-400 and how well its defended Sevastopol or T90MS and its great successes, etc. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 1:41:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2024 2:01:20 PM EDT
[#33]
Stretch out Russian forces by sparking civil unrest. Protest- Riots-insurrection. From distant satellite states to moscow and st Petersburg.
Use their own playbook on them. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 2:14:42 PM EDT
[#34]
Well, europe had better start rearming themselves because I don't see a whole lotta Americans giving a shit about them financially or militarily. Besides, they are just about as commie as the commies themselves so why should I care in the first place?
There are just a couple countries, [like Poland for instance] that would deserves our help, the rest have sat back for decades now for the most part. As far as nukes, the russkies know lobbing them at the US makes the head honchos deado's or buried for decades so eh, and that's the only way they could ever really threaten us militarily here in the US. [other then them swarming over the border like vagrant ants because of weak politicians] I truly DGAF about europe, they are a noose around our neck and so is NATO. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 2:18:57 PM EDT
[#35]
In 20 years Russia is going to be in the other side of their demographic collapse. Who exactly is NATO going to be fighting?
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Posted: 1/21/2024 2:33:43 PM EDT
[#36]
Maybe the .gov will give us F-16's now!
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Posted: 1/21/2024 2:34:35 PM EDT
[#37]
“Dude. We can't even stomp Iran's toadies. “
We are restricted by many rules of engagement that can be removed when the need arises But zero and poopy pants have made the top of the military a joke and that is are biggest problem |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 2:36:49 PM EDT
[#38]
They're far too worried about taxing the shit out of their populations to pay for social programs instead of defense.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 2:38:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, no. China? Yes. Russia? No. All that said, the warmongers and globalists sure are beating that war drum, arent they?!? Good chance they know their system are only held together by America's fake money. Once the dollar falls apart its going to get frisky out there. Good chance their hoping that full out war will distract their populations and help them reset. No doubt their trying to figure out how to poke RU hard enough to do something that stupid. RU could stand by...build their ecconomy around petroleum, gold and commodities and simply wait. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 2:40:01 PM EDT
[#40]
Capt. Queenan said we'd be at war with the Chinese in 20 some odd years, too.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 2:40:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They're far too worried about taxing the shit out of their populations to pay for social programs instead of defense. Hidden Tiger Crouching Fuckface.  Epiphimize on that one.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 2:45:56 PM EDT
[#42]
Russia is going out.
They will probably try to go out with a bang, but it will be a whimper. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 2:47:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Patton was fucking right and was killed for it. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 2:50:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm in favor a nuclear first strike against Russia. They wouldn't be able to respond to our launches in time. They are a rabid dog that needs to be put down. 
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Posted: 1/21/2024 6:18:39 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Russians themselves have clearly and repeatedly stated that they intend to attack other European countries, some of which are NATO members. The danger is almost certainly sooner rather than later. If Ukraine falls, Russia can roll right over any number of her neighbors with little or no opposition. They will absolutely impress former Ukrainian soldiers into the newly expanded Russian Army to do so. So, "Fuck Ukraine" right?! Lol,no. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 6:19:51 PM EDT
[#46]
By then we'll go through two or three other countries to fight them for us, just like the past.
Of course, you'll pay for it. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 7:30:34 PM EDT
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Russia huh?
Are they going to lead their oxcarts to our field, or are we just going to drop missiles from space onto theirs? This whole Russian threat thing is complete, absolute bullshit at this point. Boomer fucking daydreams. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 7:33:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia huh? Are they going to lead their oxcarts to our field, or are we just going to drop missiles from space onto theirs? This whole Russian threat thing is complete, absolute bullshit at this point. Boomer fucking daydreams. You think you're tough for eating beans every day? There's half a million scarecrows in Denver who'd give anything for one mouthful of what you got. They've been under siege for about three months. They live on rats and sawdust bread and sometimes... on each other. At night, the pyres for the dead light up the sky. It's medieval. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 7:40:58 PM EDT
[#49]
All these European countries are ringing war bells about Russia hoping it causes a reaction in the US and we continue to dump cash and aid into Ukraine so they dont have to.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 7:43:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All these European countries are ringing war bells about Russia hoping it causes a reaction in the US and we continue to dump cash and aid into Ukraine so they dont have to. 
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