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Posted: 7/28/2023 1:19:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWe sure did. Its you. If you ever pony up to buy a membership, at least you have your avatar. |
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Posted: 7/28/2023 1:20:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You could grind off the bosses. Retap and then drill holes for front bosses and use insertable pins. Sucks but I think it could be done. Maybe not. But the bosses are still centered the same. |
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Posted: 7/28/2023 1:31:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holes would still be threaded 4-40 instead of 6-32. Retapping is out because there's not enough metal to get good threads. So there would still need to offer the special screws in both thread patterns at least. I'd have to imagine they will have various thread options, but it doesn't appear these will work with post style mounts. Things like CHPWS mounts also likely won't work. Screw depth is also something they'll have to take into consideration. My guess is the standard screws will be proper length for an MOS Glock, but they'll have to offer other threads/lengths. |
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Posted: 7/29/2023 11:02:57 PM EDT
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Somebody that's better at scaling stuff and not doing it on a phone can do better I'm sure.
If I got close enough with this hack job though, holy shit lol. I think I'm out. That size is unforgivable this late in the game, Trijicon on the side or not. RCR vs RMR  RCR vs ACRO P2  RCR vs Steiner MPS  Meanwhile in China the last year or so. RCR vs EPS  RCR vs EPS carry  China 3+ years ago... RCR vs 509t  "All closed emitters are bulky" Are they though? RMR vs EPS  RMR vs EPS Carry  |
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Posted: 7/29/2023 11:31:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holes would still be threaded 4-40 instead of 6-32. Retapping is out because there's not enough metal to get good threads. So there would still need to offer the special screws in both thread patterns at least. So no retapping. but if Trijicon offered the screws in 4-40 it may work? I have a brownells slide that has the bosses. I have a battlewerx credit from their $60 cut sale and they use bosses so looks like Im getting another slide with bosses. But a couple are standard RMR cuts as well. I doubt I would ever replace all my optics with the Trijicon RCR air fryer but I would get at least one or two. Its not the end of the world for me is all Im getting at. |
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Posted: 7/29/2023 11:32:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Somebody that's better at scaling stuff and not doing it on a phone can do better I'm sure. If I got close enough with this hack job though, holy shit lol. RCR vs RMR https://i.imgur.com/CJ1iePT.png Meanwhile in China... RCR vs EPS https://i.imgur.com/r64nGoU.png RMR vs EPS https://i.imgur.com/ibDl8aX.png |
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Posted: 7/30/2023 8:43:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Somebody that's better at scaling stuff and not doing it on a phone can do better I'm sure. If I got close enough with this hack job though, holy shit lol. I think I'm out. That size is unforgivable this late in the game, Trijicon on the side or not. RCR vs RMR https://i.imgur.com/DNdwcOT.png RCR vs ACRO P2 https://i.imgur.com/eStoZgW.png Meanwhile in China the last year or so. RCR vs EPS https://i.imgur.com/TlMqwat.png RCR vs EPS carry https://i.imgur.com/ObdQica.png China 3+ years ago... RCR vs 509t https://i.imgur.com/2fiTa8r.png "All closed emitters are bulky" Are they though? RMR vs EPS https://i.imgur.com/ibDl8aX.png RMR vs EPS Carry https://i.imgur.com/jhyiAiO.png 
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Posted: 7/30/2023 6:06:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Definitely not what I was hoping for as a carry gun optic if those comparisons are accurate. |
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Posted: 7/30/2023 7:53:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Somebody that's better at scaling stuff and not doing it on a phone can do better I'm sure. If I got close enough with this hack job though, holy shit lol. I think I'm out. That size is unforgivable this late in the game, Trijicon on the side or not. RCR vs RMR https://i.imgur.com/DNdwcOT.png RCR vs ACRO P2 https://i.imgur.com/eStoZgW.png RCR vs Steiner MPS https://i.imgur.com/NxObZgw.png Meanwhile in China the last year or so. RCR vs EPS https://i.imgur.com/TlMqwat.png RCR vs EPS carry https://i.imgur.com/ObdQica.png China 3+ years ago... RCR vs 509t https://i.imgur.com/2fiTa8r.png "All closed emitters are bulky" Are they though? RMR vs EPS https://i.imgur.com/ibDl8aX.png RMR vs EPS Carry https://i.imgur.com/jhyiAiO.png Damn that’s actually pretty good. You did those on your phone? |
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Posted: 7/30/2023 7:54:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Definitely not what I was hoping for as a carry gun optic if those comparisons are accurate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Definitely not what I was hoping for as a carry gun optic if those comparisons are accurate. There is no way in hell this was intended for a concealed carry gun. Duty pistols and maybe competition. There is currently one enclosed emitter optic on the market intended for carry, and that’s the EPS (here comes the shocker) Carry |
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Posted: 7/30/2023 7:57:27 PM EDT
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 And I just put a Holosun 509T on here. The Badger RMR plate is high though. |
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Posted: 7/30/2023 8:00:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i.ibb.co/Vp4QXs0/nightforce-holosun-stack.jpg And I just put a Holosun 509T on here. The Badger RMR plate is high though. Nice. Are you going to keep the offset irons? |
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Posted: 7/30/2023 8:01:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn that’s actually pretty good. You did those on your phone? Yeah. I used a free app called Photolayers and tried to find measurements that were the same between optics to use for scale. Not perfect but probably pretty close. Close enough for me to know this isn't going to be the form factor I was hoping for. |
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Posted: 7/30/2023 8:01:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice. Are you going to keep the offset irons? Thanks, and for sure keeping the irons, just in case of being covered in water / dirt / dropped in the snow, etc |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 4:34:34 AM EDT
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Aaron Cowan has his initial 2000 round review up for his Patreon supporters. I assume, given that this optic will create a ton of buzz, he'll have it up on YouTube soon.
Highlights: Yes. It uses capstan screws. Survived the 2k testing to include the drop tests. Big buttons but no problems noted. Fits in 6000 and 7 series Safariland holsters. Won't fit ZEV or other modifications of the RMR footprint. MSRP is $800!  Trijicon RCR Mounting |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 4:58:36 AM EDT
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 RMR HD Mounting & Buttonology |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 7:01:51 AM EDT
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Very interested in the mailbox for my shotgun with the RMR CROM mount. RM06 is fine for me on handguns. Concealed carrier, not operator.
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Posted: 8/1/2023 8:05:22 AM EDT
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The rear deck height may be the same as the RMR but the forward deck height is much higher. I'm interested in seeing how this will effect BUIS requirments.
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Posted: 8/1/2023 8:44:54 AM EDT
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 Trijicon RCR |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 9:09:04 AM EDT
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 (FIRST LOOK) NEW Trijicon RCR |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 9:13:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The rear deck height may be the same as the RMR but the forward deck height is much higher. I'm interested in seeing how this will effect BUIS requirments. How much higher and how do you know? |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 9:17:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2023 9:23:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The rear deck height may be the same as the RMR but the forward deck height is much higher. I'm interested in seeing how this will effect BUIS requirments.  Attached FileI think you are confusing deck height with total height. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 9:59:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aaron Cowan has his initial 2000 round review up for his Patreon supporters. I assume, given that this optic will create a ton of buzz, he'll have it up on YouTube soon. Highlights: Yes. It uses capstan screws. Survived the 2k testing to include the drop tests. Big buttons but no problems noted. Fits in 6000 and 7 series Safariland holsters. Won't fit ZEV or other modifications of the RMR footprint. MSRP is $800!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLnkFRFt1XE
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Posted: 8/1/2023 10:17:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aaron Cowan has his initial 2000 round review up for his Patreon supporters. I assume, given that this optic will create a ton of buzz, he'll have it up on YouTube soon. Highlights: Yes. It uses capstan screws. Survived the 2k testing to include the drop tests. Big buttons but no problems noted. Fits in 6000 and 7 series Safariland holsters. Won't fit ZEV or other modifications of the RMR footprint. MSRP is $800! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLnkFRFt1XEI don't think Aaron posts to YT anymore. ETA: Looks like he still posts to YT. I guess YT relenting a bit on their anti-gun stance lets him post the videos without concern of takedowns. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 10:41:34 AM EDT
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$800 ?!?! Insane.
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Posted: 8/1/2023 10:49:10 AM EDT
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That's a huge bitch. I'm more interested in the RMR HD except for the alleged $850 Msrp...
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Posted: 8/1/2023 10:56:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $800 ?!?! Insane. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 10:58:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a huge bitch. I'm more interested in the RMR HD except for the alleged $850 Msrp... Do we have a thread yet for that one? I’ve gots questions. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 11:01:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hideous. And probably $800 |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 11:07:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2023 11:10:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: dear god, it's even more ridiculously huge when it's on the slide than it looked in the promo pics Yeah, it makes the ACRO look sleek  . After I did those comparison overlays the other day I decided the RCR wasn't for me as a carry gun optic. Ordered an EPS instead. I'm sure they'll sell as many as they can make and I'm sure guys will EDC them on Staccatos with X300 Turbos and extended mags and tell us it's really not that bulky. I can't justify that size on a carry gun though. Especially with how much smaller the EPS is. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 11:10:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think Aaron posts to YT anymore. ETA: Looks like he still posts to YT. I guess YT relenting a bit on their anti-gun stance lets him post the videos without concern of takedowns. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Aaron Cowan has his initial 2000 round review up for his Patreon supporters. I assume, given that this optic will create a ton of buzz, he'll have it up on YouTube soon. Highlights: Yes. It uses capstan screws. Survived the 2k testing to include the drop tests. Big buttons but no problems noted. Fits in 6000 and 7 series Safariland holsters. Won't fit ZEV or other modifications of the RMR footprint. MSRP is $800! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLnkFRFt1XEI don't think Aaron posts to YT anymore. ETA: Looks like he still posts to YT. I guess YT relenting a bit on their anti-gun stance lets him post the videos without concern of takedowns. I get it, but I'm not paying $5 a month to watch a single guntuber's channel on a different platform. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 11:16:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The rear deck height may be the same as the RMR but the forward deck height is much higher. I'm interested in seeing how this will effect BUIS requirments. On both, the "deck height" measurement that's important is how high the rear portion of the body is, near the zeroing adjustments, because the height there is what will block the rear irons. The RCR and RMR appear to be the same dimensionally there. Where they differ is the position of the front glass window. On the RMR, the window has it's lowest point dropped slightly lower on the body than the top of the rear of the body. On the RCR, the window is raised up a bit and now has the bottom most level of the window roughly in line with the height of the rear area. So really, the RCR should work with the same Irons arrangments as the RMR, however the window will sit a touch higher, so I guess that means you won't see as much of the lower part of your front sight through the window, but you'll still see enough to line up and use the irons. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 11:21:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a huge bitch. I'm more interested in the RMR HD except for the alleged $850 Msrp...  |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 11:27:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: RMR HD MSRP $850 lol https://www.trijicon.com/products/subcategory/trijicon-rmr-hd-reflex-sight RMR is $731, SRO is $775. That puts street price on these around $500-550 after they Instagram buyer rush fades. Ill be buying for sure in that range. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 11:36:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's interesting is, the HD appears to be just as large, if not larger than the RCR. https://www.americanrifleman.org/media/hhhbdhm4/rmr-hd_rcr_trijicon.jpg?width=1920&height=804 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's a huge bitch. I'm more interested in the RMR HD except for the alleged $850 Msrp... https://www.americanrifleman.org/media/hhhbdhm4/rmr-hd_rcr_trijicon.jpg?width=1920&height=804 It kind of makes one wonder who/what is it for? The RCR will be the better duty optic. The SRO is still their best range optic. This is a weird middle ground between the two, but it costs more than both? Am I missing something here? |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 11:37:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's interesting is, the HD appears to be just as large, if not larger than the RCR. https://www.americanrifleman.org/media/hhhbdhm4/rmr-hd_rcr_trijicon.jpg?width=1920&height=804 Based on that pic, it appears that this will be incomparable with a rear sight mounted in front of the optic. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 11:40:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Based on that pic, it appears that this will be incomparable with a rear sight mounted in front of the optic. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What's interesting is, the HD appears to be just as large, if not larger than the RCR. https://www.americanrifleman.org/media/hhhbdhm4/rmr-hd_rcr_trijicon.jpg?width=1920&height=804 Based on that pic, it appears that this will be incomparable with a rear sight mounted in front of the optic. Considering it’s basically just a SRO with the owl-ear hood, yes |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 11:50:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It kind of makes one wonder who/what is it for? The RCR will be the better duty optic. The SRO is still their best range optic. This is a weird middle ground between the two, but it costs more than both? Am I missing something here? New circle dot reticle for Trijicon. And the forward facing light sensor, to auto adjust brightness depending on down-range light levels, which IMO is the best new feature in the lineup. I'm not a die hard enclosed fanboy, so I would probably lean more to the HD for duty use between it and the RCR, mainly for that auto brightness adjustment. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 12:12:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2023 12:20:45 PM EDT
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Just got the Pre-order alert from Kenzies for the HD and RCR. All options listed at $645.
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Posted: 8/1/2023 12:38:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLooks like it has that nice blue tint that everybody loves .
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Posted: 8/1/2023 12:46:29 PM EDT
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Get your blue screen, tactical toasters ™? while they are hot boys!
Kenziesoptics.com - Trijicon Tactical Toaster $ 645 |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 1:22:40 PM EDT
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Primary Arms has them at a presale price of $645 as well.
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Posted: 8/1/2023 3:13:31 PM EDT
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Any mention of different thread pitch capstan screws being provided? I use Battlewerks slides that use the 4-40 thread pitch.
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Posted: 8/1/2023 4:00:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Somebody that's better at scaling stuff and not doing it on a phone can do better I'm sure. If I got close enough with this hack job though, holy shit lol. I think I'm out. That size is unforgivable this late in the game, Trijicon on the side or not. RCR vs RMR https://i.imgur.com/DNdwcOT.png RCR vs ACRO P2 https://i.imgur.com/eStoZgW.png RCR vs Steiner MPS https://i.imgur.com/NxObZgw.png Meanwhile in China the last year or so. RCR vs EPS https://i.imgur.com/TlMqwat.png RCR vs EPS carry https://i.imgur.com/ObdQica.png China 3+ years ago... RCR vs 509t https://i.imgur.com/2fiTa8r.png "All closed emitters are bulky" Are they though? RMR vs EPS https://i.imgur.com/ibDl8aX.png RMR vs EPS Carry https://i.imgur.com/jhyiAiO.png You screwed the pooch chief, this thing is within a 1/10th of an inch of an ACRO. The comic book drawing can't be used for comparison. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 4:12:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You screwed the pooch chief, this thing is within a 1/10th of an inch of an ACRO. The comic book drawing can't be used for comparison. I wouldn’t say that there sport. Judging by the actual photos and comparisons, I’d say his overlays are close enough to give an approximation of size differences. Look at the recent photos, it’s a tactical top hat. 
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Posted: 8/1/2023 4:14:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You screwed the pooch chief, this thing is within a 1/10th of an inch of an ACRO. The comic book drawing can't be used for comparison. It does seem pretty close in size to the ACRO, and with a much better window to overall size ratio. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 4:25:50 PM EDT
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