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Posted: 10/27/2020 1:00:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/27/2020 1:17:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: PAW-20 South African 20mm in use by Kurdish CT https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wUekt_e8-3w/V7vnLJdCfMI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/oqXW_CVEp20-_Ivj4vUcTrha37ypCatrgCLcB/s1600/13913686_630121917152994_5748280098359428379_o.jpg Now that looks like a good time! 
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Posted: 10/27/2020 1:23:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/27/2020 1:26:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By USMCTanker: The hate in that country for any sort of butt stock attached to a shoulder-fired weapon is baffling. For $150.00, I’d still take it though. And I would touch it up with a fresh coat of Crinkle flat black paint...... 
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Posted: 10/27/2020 2:33:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/27/2020 2:35:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/27/2020 3:27:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJ7OQ0EWoAcaYaX?format=jpg&name=900x900 That 8mm AK again https://silahreport.com/2019/11/11/the-8mm-mauser-ak-of-the-pak-afghan-region/ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJNtTpXXkAEzMQR?format=jpg&name=large https://i2.wp.com/silahreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/50489388_2420107864729364_2261449449853157376_n.jpg?w=926&ssl=1 On an underfolder? Brutal. |
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Posted: 10/27/2020 3:28:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: The future is now. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELB3NThWsAADHwe?format=jpg&name=medium Hotchkiss universal smgs https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEvgN0_WsAAan1v?format=jpg&name=medium Rack of M3A1s https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHKY2rkXkAMZGDj?format=jpg&name=medium Those universals seem to show up an awful lot for there only being like a thousand ever made |
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Posted: 10/27/2020 3:28:35 PM EDT
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This is one thing I miss about working in those shitholes. I had a thread here back around '13 in pakistan showing an old engraved us revolver I found in one of the gun shops in Paki. My last trip to Afghanistan a Glock 17 would fetch $3000 where an AK ranged from $300-$1500 depending on who you sent to go buy it. My last trip to Iraq depending on the PSD crew leader I would get I would be able to go to the gun stores in Iraq. There was always cool shit in them.
This cost me $1500 in Afghanistan. I wish I wold have saw cut it and brought it home with me instead of flip it before I left. I used to have some youtube vids with guns I would find around Kabul. They are long gone at this point. 
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Posted: 10/27/2020 3:29:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crzapy: It's not really freedom. It's the anarchy of a warzone combined with survival of the fittest. They have really cool weapons, but they aren't toys. They're tools for survival survival. Not saying we shouldn't be able to own them, just that I don't want to need them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crzapy: Originally Posted By Radian: Originally Posted By LawyerUp: Originally Posted By 58Teague: Originally Posted By Bennjammin: these are counterfeit glocks???  Yes. There are entire industries in turkey, yemen, iraq, and pakistan that churns out regional glock copies. Pakistan had one dealer who specialized in using ppsh barrels Here's a kyhber pass glock. All parts made locally. "This is not a 3D printed frame, infact 3D printing is alien here and buying proper metal guns are economical than 3d printing, matter of fact 3d printing would cost you more... It is Injection molded polymer thingamajingie done locally" https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej7_dE_X0AAFfJq?format=jpg&name=medium That moment you realize that Yemen and Pakistan have more 2nd Amendment than you do.....  Fucking crazy, I was just thinking these fuckers have more freedom than I do. This is a really epic thread. It's the anarchy of a warzone combined with survival of the fittest. They have really cool weapons, but they aren't toys. They're tools for survival survival. Not saying we shouldn't be able to own them, just that I don't want to need them. You'd be amazed how many are toys 
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Posted: 10/27/2020 3:34:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: Fighters at #Idlib KFC. It truly is a clown world. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EW717YeWAAQNEfP?format=jpg&name=medium A extremely rare Colt M16A1 for sale in #Idlib. This was part of a contract for the Lebanese Internal Security Forces (Note the F.S.I. markings). A possible source of this rifle are Hezbollah fighters who took it to Syria which was then diverted to opposition forces. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWkEpqXXsAAf3VK?format=jpg&name=medium Allah Ak-Colonel! |
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Posted: 10/27/2020 3:34:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By barnbwt: You'd be amazed how many are toys Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By barnbwt: Originally Posted By crzapy: Originally Posted By Radian: Originally Posted By LawyerUp: Originally Posted By 58Teague: Originally Posted By Bennjammin: these are counterfeit glocks??? Yes. There are entire industries in turkey, yemen, iraq, and pakistan that churns out regional glock copies. Pakistan had one dealer who specialized in using ppsh barrels Here's a kyhber pass glock. All parts made locally. "This is not a 3D printed frame, infact 3D printing is alien here and buying proper metal guns are economical than 3d printing, matter of fact 3d printing would cost you more... It is Injection molded polymer thingamajingie done locally" https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej7_dE_X0AAFfJq?format=jpg&name=medium That moment you realize that Yemen and Pakistan have more 2nd Amendment than you do..... Fucking crazy, I was just thinking these fuckers have more freedom than I do. This is a really epic thread. It's the anarchy of a warzone combined with survival of the fittest. They have really cool weapons, but they aren't toys. They're tools for survival survival. Not saying we shouldn't be able to own them, just that I don't want to need them. You'd be amazed how many are toys It would be a blast to shoot that stuff. PKMs MG-34 MG-42 StG-44 Sterlings RPGs all that new stuff (for us anyways). etc. |
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Posted: 10/27/2020 3:34:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 58Teague: A little break from election topics. Most of these are off a few twitter accounts (War Noir, Calibre Obscura) that specialize in foreign arms ID. Some caught my eye and I wanted to share. Yemeni flex (anyone ID the red dot on the glock? looks like an RMR copy or even an authentic one oddly mounted) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej6hqpZX0AEWLop?format=jpg&name=900x900 Taliban thermal https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkB-9CFXkAACVVD?format=jpg&name=small Syrian Mosin https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkHLdNaWsAIKSF-?format=jpg&name=large Just a casual M240 (Looks like one that received the PIP upgrade) for sale in #Iraq recently. It costs $3200. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkJtocjXsAEWgzd?format=jpg&name=large Iraqi SBR (3rd hole...but only magnifier??) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkNNx5WWkAABBWZ?format=jpg&name=large A craft-produced 12.7x108mm Anti Materiel Rifle for sale in #Idlib recently for $800 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkSAUq2WsAAYteQ?format=jpg&name=large A US-made Shadow Systems MR918 pistol on sale in #Yemen recently. Easily worth $10k+ locally. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkeDWErXYAABT94?format=jpg&name=medium You ain't shitting. I saw G19's and M9 going for over $3k and that was over 5 years ago. People on here didn't believe me when I told them I had to buy my own weapons for the three contracts I did over there. I used Taurus on one contract and S&W SDs on the other two. I had to buy my own long guns, too. |
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Posted: 10/27/2020 3:48:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/27/2020 4:15:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mc556: $430 wow that’s crazy. They could make a fortune on gunbroker lol One of the USAID security guys that lived next door to me had a hadji Beretta. It was a single-shot. |
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Posted: 10/27/2020 4:19:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/27/2020 4:36:05 PM EDT
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Beretta M12 is about the only "common" tube SMG I haven't shot, its sort of on the bucket list.
I actually started a thread here, since I couldn't ID it from a news clip of the Tet offensive:  |
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Posted: 10/27/2020 5:19:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/27/2020 5:40:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: A Bodeo 1889 Revolver shared on Libyan social media Probably the oldest gun found so far. Check out the folding trigger. https://i1.wp.com/silahreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/IMG_20191128_152609__01.jpg?w=1436&ssl=1 it's older and rustier than the monitor and merrimack bent over fucking and it still makes more sense than a fullconceal
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Posted: 10/27/2020 5:43:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/27/2020 8:41:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/27/2020 8:44:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: M1 Garands SYria https://i2.wp.com/silahreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Small-Arms-Captured-by-the-Syrian-Arab-Army-17.jpg?w=785&ssl=1 Iraq https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ef2EFjYWoAAdYu9?format=jpg&name=900x900 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElNRz3kXYAgb8G7?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElNR0E4XIAEaOeD?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElNR1ERWkAAYTHR?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElNR1TOXgAAfBRK?format=jpg&name=medium And a couple MAS 36’s. Neat. ETA: and a M1 carbine |
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Posted: 10/28/2020 12:50:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/28/2020 12:52:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: Couple of Polish guns Burnt Gold Spanish Star pistol and Polish PM-63 RAK SMG. -Syria https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXRyX5mWAAEIMAT?format=jpg&name=small FB-Radom Pm 98 Iraq https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAFvFe1WwAEINsJ?format=jpg&name=medium Feet in gun pics transcends oceans, countries and cultures 
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Posted: 10/28/2020 2:56:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/28/2020 9:39:04 PM EDT
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When I was deployed to Iraq many moons ago, one of the local militia guys had an Iranian G3 that he wanted to sell cause he could never get 7.62 NATO ammo for it. I regret every day not getting that thing and figuring out a way to get it back into the US.
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Posted: 10/29/2020 2:37:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cowbell: Captured in Nigeria. I think that AK needs a little hoppes Just saw that it was a Chinese spiker  https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/259822/3BA985CC-33A3-401F-B2BC-B27D7C915DAA_jpe-1653215.JPG Abdullah, you have failed to maintain your weapon! |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 1:14:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/6/2020 2:53:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: A nice German #Mauser1895, #Chilean contract, from 1895-96. This is for sale within #DarraAdamkhel #Pakistan for around ~$250 (PKR 40,000) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmEBsqOXEAANS6v?format=jpg&name=large Ill have a post later today on the huge increase in suppressor usage in the Middle East. Neat stuff. Any pics of internals? |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 3:49:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/6/2020 4:33:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/6/2020 4:33:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/6/2020 4:49:09 PM EDT
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Wow, incredible info. Thanks for that!
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Posted: 11/6/2020 5:17:18 PM EDT
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very interesting
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Posted: 11/6/2020 8:34:00 PM EDT
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Do you see that "engineers" in the ME are using existing drawings for suppressors, or just winging it?
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Posted: 11/6/2020 8:42:57 PM EDT
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I'm 11 pages into this thread and I believe it rates as one of the best of 2020 on AR15.com. It's so relaxing to actually read a true gun thread with all the BS going on. THANKS!
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Posted: 11/6/2020 10:32:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/6/2020 10:43:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: Couple of Polish guns Burnt Gold Spanish Star pistol and Polish PM-63 RAK SMG. -Syria https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXRyX5mWAAEIMAT?format=jpg&name=small FB-Radom Pm 98 Iraq https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAFvFe1WwAEINsJ?format=jpg&name=medium Now you did it, I'm truly jelly af @notso has the coolest PM-63 re chambered in .380. Arguably the most fun gun I've shot as well. I had no idea about them until notso let me shoot his. Now I want to build a semi auto version from a parts kit
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Posted: 11/6/2020 10:47:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: M1 Garands SYria https://i2.wp.com/silahreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Small-Arms-Captured-by-the-Syrian-Arab-Army-17.jpg?w=785&ssl=1 Iraq https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ef2EFjYWoAAdYu9?format=jpg&name=900x900 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElNRz3kXYAgb8G7?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElNR0E4XIAEaOeD?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElNR1ERWkAAYTHR?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElNR1TOXgAAfBRK?format=jpg&name=medium I'd LOVE to know the entire history of that M1 carbine. Perhaps that gun has the best story to tell out of all the guns you've posted. I'd have to spend some time in my books, and the carbine club to know for sure, but I'm not sure we ever gave carbines to Syria. Outside of Israel I'm not sure we gave any other country carbines in the ME. We gave them to Ethiopia IIrc though. Either way, that carbine likely has an epic story. It likely sits in a corner now because of .30 carbine. Can't imagine much of that in the ME. |
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Posted: 11/7/2020 3:08:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/7/2020 6:41:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/7/2020 6:47:54 PM EDT
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Great thread. Keep em coming.
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Posted: 11/7/2020 6:57:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: An incredible find on sale in #Idlib: 4x WW2-era MP44/StG 44 available to purchase for $150 altogether. Even more notably, included in the package is 6x Magazines and 40 rounds of 7.92 Kurz. This is extremely rare locally, with even single rounds not being seen for years. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/El0yogGXgAIBIwD?format=jpg&name=medium https://media1.tenor.com/images/171b55a7281e19cb93256f3b380c6d9b/tenor.gif?itemid=14239231 The Syrian Army Paratroop BN was equipped with MP44's up until the 90's so it's not terribly uncommon to find them floating around the region. |
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Posted: 11/7/2020 7:07:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/8/2020 11:32:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/8/2020 4:05:26 PM EDT
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Mmmm, that Type 1 AK
And here is what was captured- some really interesting and varied kit- Pakistan obviously doesn't bother to equip or protect FC properly. Seen: 1x Type 80, 1x MG3, 2x G3, 1x T1 AK, 3x T56/AKM, 2x AMD-65, 1x "AKS-74U" (Seems to be a Daraa 7.62x39 copy), plenty of other kit.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/8/2020 4:06:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/8/2020 4:17:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: From Pakistan, guy is trying to get them to the US at an affordable price.~60$ Don't be caught lackin https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmFqH8qXEAICj4o?format=jpg&name=900x900 Bling++ |
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Posted: 11/8/2020 5:03:23 PM EDT
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