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Link Posted: 11/8/2020 5:24:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 58Teague:
Pair of Walther P22s- $1200 each located in eastern Afghan

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Now how did those get there? And why?
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Link Posted: 11/8/2020 5:34:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 58Teague:


Now idea how, but this is why

Two interesting handguns captured in #Paktia #Afghanistan - a suppressed Walther P22 and Turkish Tisas Zigana K. Both are quite common, but the P22 is a real favourite of Taliban (And other) hitmen.
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Makes sense. Thanks for starting this thread, this is very interesting.

How common is 22lr? That’s mostly a recreational/game round, and in a war torn country those don’t seem like exceedingly common pursuits.
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Link Posted: 11/8/2020 5:49:09 PM EDT
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I wouldn't say common, but available for sure. Plenty in pakistan and india
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Is 22 “legal” there? It’s a moot point in a war zone but I know a lot of countries that disallow military calibers allow 12 ga and 22.
Link Posted: 11/8/2020 5:52:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 58Teague:
From Pakistan, guy is trying to get them to the US at an affordable price.~60$

Don't be caught lackin
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Wrap I took off a captured SMLE and brought home to put on one of mine.



On an Afghan carpet even.
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Link Posted: 11/8/2020 7:17:59 PM EDT
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Notice the folding hinge? Thats not just a Type 1, but a Type 1 AKS-47.
Link Posted: 11/8/2020 7:23:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By The_Gooch:

Notice the folding hinge? Thats not just a Type 1, but a Type 1 AKS-47.
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Originally Posted By The_Gooch:

Notice the folding hinge? Thats not just a Type 1, but a Type 1 AKS-47.

Good eye, I did notice that. Wonder what that would go for in the states. $$$
Link Posted: 11/8/2020 7:43:55 PM EDT
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And I would touch it up with a fresh coat of Crinkle flat black paint......
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The hate in that country for any sort of butt stock attached to a shoulder-fired weapon is baffling.  

For $150.00, I’d still take it though.


And I would touch it up with a fresh coat of Crinkle flat black paint......


Absolutely.  

Bead blast, repark, new grip panels (because I hate holding things covered in human fecal matter), install a buttstock, fresh crinkle paint, a dozen good magazines, some weapons lube and we'd be in like Flynn.

Sterlings were made with great care and I doubt if it's worn out mechanically.
Link Posted: 11/8/2020 8:05:19 PM EDT
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Awesome thread!

TC
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Link Posted: 11/9/2020 9:55:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 58Teague:
From Pakistan, guy is trying to get them to the US at an affordable price.~60$

Don't be caught lackin
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Not gonna lie. It is interesting
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Link Posted: 11/10/2020 3:33:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 58Teague:
From Pakistan, guy is trying to get them to the US at an affordable price.~60$

Don't be caught lackin
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Damn, I'd get one for $60.  It's ridiculous, but I've spent more on even dumber shit.  
Link Posted: 11/10/2020 3:39:43 PM EDT
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This picture is from a video where separatists in Pakistan attacked a couple army trucks, killed 15 soldiers, and looted the trucks of the weapons.  Just watched the video yesterday.
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Originally Posted By 58Teague:
......Iraq  
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Honestly, I'd rock that RPD.
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Link Posted: 11/10/2020 4:24:14 PM EDT
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Are those AK bullpup kits?
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Link Posted: 11/10/2020 7:22:37 PM EDT
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Big Army let us appropriate crates of MP5s that were unwanted, (Pakistani Ordnance) and we found out they were not the pos thought to be....we issued them out every Friday until our supply was out. Fridays in case the Iraqis had a wedding, or some other happy fire event scheduled for the weekend

I’m Mr Pink



Link Posted: 11/10/2020 7:31:11 PM EDT
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Question: Does the US military maintain SN records of rifles once they go off to war?

Would it be possible, at least hypothetically, to take one of those M16s and run the SN against some database and figure out who it was last issued to and when (maybe even where) it went missing?

Link Posted: 11/10/2020 8:47:15 PM EDT
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Makes sense. Thanks for starting this thread, this is very interesting.

How common is 22lr? That’s mostly a recreational/game round, and in a war torn country those don’t seem like exceedingly common pursuits.
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Originally Posted By 58Teague:


Now idea how, but this is why

Two interesting handguns captured in #Paktia #Afghanistan - a suppressed Walther P22 and Turkish Tisas Zigana K. Both are quite common, but the P22 is a real favourite of Taliban (And other) hitmen.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElRDYgxWoAwXHA3?format=png&name=900x900

Makes sense. Thanks for starting this thread, this is very interesting.

How common is 22lr? That’s mostly a recreational/game round, and in a war torn country those don’t seem like exceedingly common pursuits.


It could be internet BS, but I read a thread here where the IDF was known to field suppressed 10/22s during large gatherings/riots
Link Posted: 11/10/2020 8:50:19 PM EDT
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Iraqi bling

Link Posted: 11/10/2020 9:13:08 PM EDT
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It could be internet BS, but I read a thread here where the IDF was known to field suppressed 10/22s during large gatherings/riots
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Originally Posted By phurba:
Originally Posted By 58Teague:


Now idea how, but this is why

Two interesting handguns captured in #Paktia #Afghanistan - a suppressed Walther P22 and Turkish Tisas Zigana K. Both are quite common, but the P22 is a real favourite of Taliban (And other) hitmen.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElRDYgxWoAwXHA3?format=png&name=900x900

Makes sense. Thanks for starting this thread, this is very interesting.

How common is 22lr? That’s mostly a recreational/game round, and in a war torn country those don’t seem like exceedingly common pursuits.


It could be internet BS, but I read a thread here where the IDF was known to field suppressed 10/22s during large gatherings/riots


No, you're right.  The IDF uses Ruger rimfires a lot.  They have kneecap contests.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/10/21/israel-adopts-ruger-sr-22-in-less-lethal-sniper-role

https://worldisraelnews.com/idfs-less-deadly-sniper-rifle-credited-with-drop-in-fatalities-along-gaza-border/

Best,
JBR
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Link Posted: 11/11/2020 6:33:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By arowneragain:
Question: Does the US military maintain SN records of rifles once they go off to war?

Would it be possible, at least hypothetically, to take one of those M16s and run the SN against some database and figure out who it was last issued to and when (maybe even where) it went missing?

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There was a digital records transition a few years back. If those SNs survived the transition, we can tell you the last unit who owned the item and theoretically when it was lost.

If the records did not survive the transition, it is possible - but much less likely - to find their provenance through old paper records. At that point it's just easier to torch'em. So we do.

I've witnessed proofs that US-marked weapons found in Iraq were lost or captured during WW2.

We don't keep global track of who was assigned what weapon. That happens at the unit level.

Nowadays if it's found, and there is a serial number on it, I can have the BDE, BN, or Company Commander on the phone within 20 minutes to inform them we found their missing gear. That can turn into a fun day.

A few months ago I found a NBC mask. I called the Commander and he told me somebody would be by to pick it up later. On the way to lunch I saw some random private low crawling across the parking lot at the next motorpool over. An hour later that same soldier low crawled into my office, stood up, and told me he was there for a NBC mask.

I don't think he will lose anything ever again.
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Link Posted: 11/11/2020 1:14:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By XNARC:
Big Army let us appropriate crates of MP5s that were unwanted, (Pakistani Ordnance) and we found out they were not the pos thought to be....we issued them out every Friday until our supply was out. Fridays in case the Iraqis had a wedding, or some other happy fire event scheduled for the weekend

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Why do I have to be Mr. Pink? LOL
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Link Posted: 11/11/2020 4:45:38 PM EDT
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#Taliban's M4 w/ UTG PRO- pattern handguard
+ M203 UGL and Trijicon ACOG scope. = UTG NOW OPERATOR RATED, step aside super precision
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Gomer: Holy fuck Sarge, guess what!!! I think I found my rifle...
GSgt: Why is it not in hand my right now Gomer Pyle?!
Gomer: "turns Iphone around to show Gunny ARFCOM thread".
GSgt:
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Even the Izzies went retarded about the usage of their riot control 10/22s.

In recent years major restrictions have been put on their usage
Link Posted: 11/11/2020 4:54:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 58Teague:
Tactical Store In Idlib. That logo
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Link Posted: 11/11/2020 5:05:57 PM EDT
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@Jdude

Thanks for the info. All the ANA M16s and 240s most likey all have similar stories i.e. given by U.S. then captured. But those M16A1s that popped up in Syria for example might have a more interesting story.
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Back in the 1990s, M16A1s turned up in Mexico in possession of drug cartels last known to have been property of the Army of the Republic of Vietnam. Destroyed the Clinton Admin  "river of iron" narrative about US gun dealers selling guns to Mexican cartels.
Link Posted: 11/11/2020 8:44:51 PM EDT
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Pakistan original. 7.62x39

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A mix of my 2 favorite guns? Shut up and take my Rupees!
Link Posted: 11/11/2020 9:29:53 PM EDT
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There was a digital records transition a few years back. If those SNs survived the transition, we can tell you the last unit who owned the item and theoretically when it was lost.

If the records did not survive the transition, it is possible - but much less likely - to find their provenance through old paper records. At that point it's just easier to torch'em. So we do.

I've witnessed proofs that US-marked weapons found in Iraq were lost or captured during WW2.

We don't keep global track of who was assigned what weapon. That happens at the unit level.

Nowadays if it's found, and there is a serial number on it, I can have the BDE, BN, or Company Commander on the phone within 20 minutes to inform them we found their missing gear. That can turn into a fun day.

A few months ago I found a NBC mask. I called the Commander and he told me somebody would be by to pick it up later. On the way to lunch I saw some random private low crawling across the parking lot at the next motorpool over. An hour later that same soldier low crawled into my office, stood up, and told me he was there for a NBC mask.

I don't think he will lose anything ever again.
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Thanks! I appreciate the answer.
Link Posted: 11/12/2020 12:29:21 PM EDT
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Back in the 1990s, M16A1s turned up in Mexico in possession of drug cartels last known to have been property of the Army of the Republic of Vietnam. Destroyed the Clinton Admin  "river of iron" narrative about US gun dealers selling guns to Mexican cartels.
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@Jdude

Thanks for the info. All the ANA M16s and 240s most likey all have similar stories i.e. given by U.S. then captured. But those M16A1s that popped up in Syria for example might have a more interesting story.


Back in the 1990s, M16A1s turned up in Mexico in possession of drug cartels last known to have been property of the Army of the Republic of Vietnam. Destroyed the Clinton Admin  "river of iron" narrative about US gun dealers selling guns to Mexican cartels.


A bunch of M16s were surplused by Vietnam and Cambodia a few years ago.
Link Posted: 11/12/2020 2:15:35 PM EDT
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Iraqi bling

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LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING CLASSIC FIREARMS DID RIGHT BEFORE AN EXCITING ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!
Link Posted: 11/12/2020 3:04:09 PM EDT
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Some of the stuff we confiscated in 2006.

Hadjified Lee Enfield



Nice old PPSh 41, this one was a lot of fun.



Iranian G3


Pakistani MG3


Hadjified Rasheed


Thompson, never got to fire this one.




Post raid haul.


Found all these in an old warehouse on the east side of Camp Taji.










Link Posted: 11/12/2020 3:30:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 58Teague:
A legit M24 for sale in khyber. Battlefield capture and brought back to Pakistan. ~$2500
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What’s sad is we have ANA brand new M24’s, which they proceeded to load up with shitty M80 ball and never hit anything. Guaranteed that was sold off by some ANA turd.
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I had to do the paperwork on a handful of found items.

I saw your post and immediately said to myself

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