You know those wouldn’t be enforced. The RFOs aren’t for them.

No...all it would take is buying a box of ammo.

Two birds with one stone,red flag a commie and drain the DA's budget. Sooner or later they will stop processing them because of lack of funds.

Good friggin luck with this part:

Return guns to respondent.  When a final ERPO expires and it is not renewed, the respondent can apply to have any guns that were surrendered to or removed by the police returned.
To make an application to have your guns returned, complete and print the fillable online application form and file it with the court.  You must attach proof of ownership and show that you can legally possess the guns.  The court will send a copy of the application to the petitioner and any licensing officers who have issued a gun permit to you.  If the petitioner or a licensing officer objects to you getting the guns back, the court must schedule and hold a hearing.  The court notifies you, the petitioner and the licensing officers of the hearing date.  At the hearing, the parties can testify, call witnesses and give evidence to support their side of the story.  Then, the court will decide if the guns should be returned to you.

That's some Stasi level shit right there.

Why? Nothing would happen peon...the political class are protected.

Now pick up the fucking can

In the gulag star chamber..lights only illuminate the accused.. but then again the accusation becomes the evidence...

Bro...it's New York. They'd just raise taxes or find something new to tax.

"The reckless use, display or brandishing of a firearm, rifle or shotgun; "

It will not take long for some malicious DA to parse the word 'display' out of that sentence.

post a trophy pic on the 'net with your cottontail kill and a Beretta Silver Snipe and off to red flag land you go.

Good Lord Almighty.

If they enforce this stuff, my tear reservoir for New York LEOs killed in the line of duty goes to zero.

Predates that. The Nazis did the same thing in the 1930s.

Here's the thing, the cops will dismiss the ones aimed at obvious politicians and donors.

It would be more effective if you did something like finding anti gun zealots and flaming Liberals on Facebook that reside in the target area, and filing on them.

Time to buy NODs

Completely unconstitutional.

One word, ambush

Silly Rabbit!  There's no real money involved with that, the Court Clerk and Recorder is already on Salary, the DA just waive's the fee, not like for every application, $210 is ACTUALLY coming out of the DA'S budget!

Aimless would be red flagged if he posted this on Facebook or Twitter.

Saw that and said "WHOAAAA...   So much for "Due Process"...

You can be than in 99% of the cases, that last little box will get checked ...   Just so people can F' with someone they don't like and not have it come back to their doorstep...

I'll be a lot of folks get "SWATTED" with Bogus "anonymous" Red Flag Charges...

Not a shred of due process.

And you know the Authorities are not going to just politely walk up and knock on your door at 9am or so...

They will not parse DISPLAY out of the law, they will just argue that DISPLAY can mean, just make visible to a 3rd party, since there is a comma before the DISPLAY, after reckless use, no need to establish a reckless display of a firearm, rifle or shotgun was committed.   Just like they already argue the comma in the 2nd Amendment.

Just like what is the definition of "readily convertible", or "recent"?

Was buying a single box of 20rd .30-06 Noslers 3 months ago considered recent? When they want to use/abuse this law against their political enemies, which is their sole intent.

Well then, I'm sure they'll be cancelling the program immediately.

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As for ambushing......I wonder if the cops have considered that yet.

One day they'll kick in the right guys door and it'll make international news.

Every one fill one out for every one, overwhelm the system.

It's streamlined government. They just removed "due"  so now it's only a process. Works swell in other countries.

I saw that too.

I would say FUAC is a threat to society. RFL that scumbag !

Systematically red flag everyone. Flood their system. Waste their resources.

Folks should learn the value of caching.

Think the boogi bois will start filing RFL forms on the soup squad?

That's some Nazi/Stalinistic type bullshit right there.
Buy some ammo and get sent to the camp/gulag.

This isn't going to end well.

That is worse than NJ.

So how are these filled? Online anonymously, mail or in person?

Still hard to grasp how someone can not be sued for filling a false RFL report.

A weapon to be used for all sides, not just liberals against Conservatives.

the Last reason is mind boggling

Anyone who submits or approves that as a reasoning should be thrown in isolation for 20 years

Do the police/courts have to have proof of gun ownership to break into your house and tear shit up searching for a gun/ammo?

Honey, I'm going to start some home renovations.

Her - why?

Me - No reason, just in case...

LOL.

Give NJ time.

You know how the left feels in that state.  Especially if VA goes full retard in the near future NJ libs will not want a bunch of coal mining hicks outdoing then on saving the public from themselves.

Now this is a problem.

Not surprisingly, GD is missing a deeper understanding of some of this.

1).  Merely showing that someone bought ammo or a gun recently is not enough to get an ERPO.  If a petitioner checks that box and leaves everything else blank, the judge is going to laugh and dismiss the case in about 20 seconds.

The petitioner checks any applicable boxes and then must explain in detail what specific circumstances justify the issuance of the ERPO.  Now, that doesn’t mean that they couldn’t say “the respondent said he’d shoot me last night and then went to the store and bought ammo.”  That might get it done initially, but assuming the respondent comes to the hearing, says they didn’t do that, and doesn’t act like a lunatic in court, there’s no evidence justifying the extended issuance of the ERPO beyond the hearing.

Buying a gun or ammo is merely a supporting fact to a larger narrative.  You’re never going to get an order issued for checking that box, saying they went to the local LGS to buy ammo, and adding nothing more.  The petitioner must demonstrate a narrative that the respondent is truly dangerous to themselves or others.  That checkbox is merely a supporting fact.

2).  The petitioner DOES have to disclose their name and address to the court.  That person can request that the judge redact that petitioner’s name and address from the ERPO notice sent to the respondent.  Basically, the judge/court knows who that person is but the respondent doesn’t until they come to the hearing.  At the hearing, the petitioner has to testify.  That’s part of due process, so the respondent is going to know at that point who accused them.

The petitioner doesn’t get to just file papers anonymously, walk away, and never have to reveal themselves again.  That’s not how this works.

One thing troubling about this is that if it’s redacted and the respondent doesn’t know who has petitioned against them, it’s a bit more difficult to properly prepare a defense.

3).  One of the biggest worries of the whole process to me, aside from the actual hearing and how you’re not entitled to counsel, is petitioning to get your guns back.  The idea that you have to prove ownership of them is laughable.

Much constitutional. Very due process. Wow.

Surely you don't seriously think they will apply the same standards to themselves? Arfcops are the relatively closest thing you are going to find to a sympathetic person in uniform and they are laughing at the upset rabble because they know RFLs and AWBs won't affect them.

I am 100% serious about this: the best course of action is to elect the farthest left  liberals who will defund law enforcement.  You are not going to stop these laws from being enacted so the best thing to do is minimize the number of those who could enforce them.

Can't fight the government accusation when the government is infallible.

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Uh, huh.  For now.

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