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Posted: 5/19/2020 6:37:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StevesZZ5]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colt_thompson: I have a lot fewer shares than you but I bought another 500 at$1 even Your previous approach that we posted about earlier was close to mine. Perhaps for different reasons or theories, but our buy and sell price was close. So am I guessing you were sitting there like I was, and said “screw it” and hit the buy button?  How are you feeling? Going to hold or play with those you just bought? I can hardly wait for the OP to make the word of the day “Hold ‘em”. I hope that day comes. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 6:42:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2020 6:54:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TechOps: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/361596/8A1BA216-85C1-4688-83AE-CDB80B79C37B_png-1424073.JPG Beers on me then To the moon. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 6:54:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevesZZ5: Your previous approach that we posted about earlier was close to mine. Perhaps for different reasons or theories, but our buy and sell price was close. So am I guessing you were sitting there like I was, and said “screw it” and hit the buy button? How are you feeling? Going to hold or play with those you just bought? I can hardly wait for the OP to make the word of the day “Hold ‘em”. I hope that day comes. I'm going to hold a core block and continue to day trade the rest. This is just my play account that holds very few long positions. I close most everything every day |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 6:56:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TechOps: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/361596/8A1BA216-85C1-4688-83AE-CDB80B79C37B_png-1424073.JPG Beers on me then The after hours on that is amazing. I closed out my final at $3.45 or so and my lowest buy in was $1.56. Not even mad |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 7:07:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colt_thompson: The after hours on that is amazing. I closed out my final at $3.45 or so and my lowest buy in was $1.56. Not even mad Lol. I saw it hit 1.25 and didn't buy it. Was like this thing looks like it has legs.  Attached File
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Posted: 5/19/2020 7:19:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2020 7:35:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK: Lol. I saw it hit 1.25 and didn't buy it. Was like this thing looks like it has legs. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/173565/Screenshot_20200519-180652_thinkorswim_j-1424103.JPG Damn, I just threw the little money I had in my account at it when it was at $3.34, only got 20 share  Guess it will pay for dinner tomorrow
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Posted: 5/19/2020 7:49:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Osprey61]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevesZZ5: ... Im a long. But then I’m sitting there around 3pm wondering if I didn’t fuck up by buying in at that high of a price. ... Go long! This is going to come across as pumping, but I laughed at the "that high of a price" part. Not my math, but a respected poster on Reddit put together the back-of-napkin figures below. I'm thinking hard about doubling my core holding after seeing that new MSFT video and the WALL of corporate Hololens partners... When the Hololens consumer version is released this has the potential to go supernova. "BTW, if MSFT sells 20M units a year and MVIS get $20 royalty per Hololens, that's $400,000,000 in royalties per year. At 100% margin. That's approx. $2.50 earnings per share, or a share price of $75 at a P/E of 30. At $20 per eye, that $800,000,000 in royalties and a share price of $150 What timing. May 19. Maybe this is why MVIS wanted the additional shares. Are we sure we want to sell?" |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 7:54:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StevesZZ5]
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Have you seen the BBC news COVID commercial that just popped?
 https://www.bbc.com/news/av/health-52692298/coronavirus-mixed-reality-headsets-help-medics-treat-covid-19-patients Oh yeah...and fucking Bloomberg News: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-19/london-doctors-use-microsoft-ar-goggles-to-reduce-virus-exposure?srnd=premium |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 8:01:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KaiK]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: This is going to come across as pumping, but I laughed at the "that high of a price" part. Not my math, but a respected poster on Reddit put together the back-of-napkin figures below. I'm thinking hard about doubling my core holding after seeing that new MSFT video and the WALL of corporate Hololens partners... When the Hololens consumer version is released this has the potential to go supernova. "BTW, if MSFT sells 20M units a year and MVIS get $20 royalty per Hololens, that's $400,000,000 in royalties per year. At 100% margin. That's approx. $2.50 earnings per share, or a share price of $75 at a P/E of 30. At $20 per eye, that $800,000,000 in royalties and a share price of $150 What timing. May 19. Maybe this is why MVIS wanted the additional shares. Are we sure we want to sell?" If the MVIS chip is in there, MS might fuck them.
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Posted: 5/19/2020 8:06:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK: If the MVIS chip is in there, MS might fuck them. Kaik, you are kidding, right? Right? There is no "if" anymore. If you haven't seen the teardown video, it started a furor. There are two Microvision projectors in each Hololens, with the supporting MEMS. At the ASM today, the CEO of Microvision was asked about the video. He said, "Yep, those are our parts. Can't comment further." |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 8:07:20 PM EDT
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Figured I'd FOMO on NNDM. Just through a limit buy for $5 for 15 whole shares. Only had $75 free in my account.
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Posted: 5/19/2020 8:07:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK: Sorry it was at lower and all my buying power was messed up because leveraged ETFs. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/173565/Screenshot_20200519-181646_thinkorswim_j-1424118.JPGI would like to buy but I am late to this party and not comfortable at all that profit takers won't hammer the ever living shit out of NNDM in the very near future. Maybe I will see a buy in point that I like... but I doubt it. Oh well, can't grab every winner. 
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Posted: 5/19/2020 8:26:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KaiK]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: Kaik, you are kidding, right? Right? There is no "if" anymore. If you haven't seen the teardown video, it started a furor. There are two Microvision projectors in each Hololens, with the supporting MEMS. At the ASM today, the CEO of Microvision was asked about the video. He said, "Yep, those are our parts. Can't comment further." Was it a prototype or full production model? I've seen the Bill Gates documentary. Microsoft isn't above screwing people. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 8:33:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StevesZZ5]
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Production model XR10 which is industrial-use in the realm of $7k. These are used in the field I work in. Refining.
A Reddit user bought one and tore it down. Posted the video yesterday, and it was brought up today in the shareholder meeting because MVIS is no longer held back by an NDA preventing them from disclosing that yes indeed there are Microvision parts in HoloLens2. And now commercials from HoloLens are popping up, along with the news links I posted above. Tomorrow is going to be fucking awesome. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 8:39:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevesZZ5: Production model in the realm of $7k. A Reddit user bought one and tore it down. Posted the video yesterday, and it was brought up today in the shareholder meeting because MVIS is no longer held back by an NDA preventing them from disclosing that yes indeed there are Microvision parts in HoloLens2. And now commercials from HoloLens are popping up, along with the news links I posted above. Tomorrow is going to be fucking awesome. I hope you guys make a killing if so. Hope Microsoft didn't do the math on stealing the tech having it made in China and just waiting for MVIS to bankrupt while dragging the lawsuit out. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 8:46:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK: I hope you guys make a killing if so. Hope Microsoft didn't do the math on stealing the tech having it made in China and just waiting for MVIS to bankrupt while dragging the lawsuit out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK: Originally Posted By StevesZZ5: Production model in the realm of $7k. A Reddit user bought one and tore it down. Posted the video yesterday, and it was brought up today in the shareholder meeting because MVIS is no longer held back by an NDA preventing them from disclosing that yes indeed there are Microvision parts in HoloLens2. And now commercials from HoloLens are popping up, along with the news links I posted above. Tomorrow is going to be fucking awesome. I hope you guys make a killing if so. Hope Microsoft didn't do the math on stealing the tech having it made in China and just waiting for MVIS to bankrupt while dragging the lawsuit out. Thank you, I hope so too. And holy shit, they keep dropping ads and vids on HoloLens2. This one came out today, too. Something big is up. https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-hololens-2-more-markets-2020?amp&utm_source=wc_tw&utm_medium=tw_card&utm_content=77651&utm_campaign=social&__twitter_impression=true |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 8:49:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevesZZ5: Thank you, I hope so too. And holy shit, they keep dropping ads and vids on HoloLens2. This one came out today, too. Something big is up. https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-hololens-2-more-markets-2020?amp&utm_source=wc_tw&utm_medium=tw_card&utm_content=77651&utm_campaign=social&__twitter_impression=true Seems cool. Tomorrow should be interesting. I have lots of buying power for tomorrow if it takes off.  Attached FileOof.
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Posted: 5/19/2020 8:50:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: This is going to come across as pumping, but I laughed at the "that high of a price" part. Not my math, but a respected poster on Reddit put together the back-of-napkin figures below. I'm thinking hard about doubling my core holding after seeing that new MSFT video and the WALL of corporate Hololens partners... When the Hololens consumer version is released this has the potential to go supernova. "BTW, if MSFT sells 20M units a year and MVIS get $20 royalty per Hololens, that's $400,000,000 in royalties per year. At 100% margin. That's approx. $2.50 earnings per share, or a share price of $75 at a P/E of 30. At $20 per eye, that $800,000,000 in royalties and a share price of $150 What timing. May 19. Maybe this is why MVIS wanted the additional shares. Are we sure we want to sell?" Interesting but is it realistic? Why would Microsoft pay half to three quarters of a billion in annual royalties if they could buy the company fir 2-3 billion? Also why is mvis worth the same PE (30) as Microsoft? I'm not denying there's upside but I don't see $75 |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 8:59:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colt_thompson: Interesting but is it realistic? Why would Microsoft pay half to three quarters of a billion in annual royalties if they could buy the company fir 2-3 billion? Also why is mvis worth the same PE (30) as Microsoft? I'm not denying there's upside but I don't see $75 That's a good point, a 30 P/E for MVIS isn't realistic, but then again they don't intend to remain in business. Each billion in sales price yields about $7.43 per share at current SP levels (actually, percentage wise it stays the same after an R/S, just the number changes). Two billion is $15 per share, three billion and you're at $22.5 per share. On a dollar investment. At three billion I'd make $450,000 mixed LTCG/STCG right now...and I'm seriously thinking about doubling my core holding. I don't need more money, I just don't want my wife raising hell when I trade my '11 BMW Z4 35is for a new 911 Carrera 4S. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 9:04:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: That's a good point, a 30 P/E for MVIS isn't realistic, but then again they don't intend to remain in business. Each billion in sales price yields about $7.43 per share at current SP levels (actually, percentage wise it stays the same after an R/S, just the number changes). Two billion is $15 per share, three billion and you're at $22.5 per share. On a dollar investment. At three billion I'd make $450,000 mixed LTCG/STCG right now...and I'm seriously thinking about doubling my core holding. I don't need more money, I just don't want my wife raising hell when I trade my '11 BMW Z4 35is for a new 911 Carrera 4S. Can Microsoft acquire enough stock on the open market that they can then gain a seat(s) on the board of directors? Then they could push for a sale of the technology versus the company |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 9:07:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StevesZZ5]
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I’d be at $240,000.00 after capital gains.
I’d sell my ‘04 330xi. Nah, I’d sell it to my 9 year old son. I put 175 shares of MVIS in his UTMA. It can sit in the garage for the next 9 years and I’d give him a smoking deal on it. 
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Posted: 5/19/2020 9:27:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevesZZ5: I’d be at $240,000.00 after capital gains. I’d sell my ‘04 330xi. Nah, I’d sell it to my 9 year old son. I put 175 shares of MVIS in his UTMA. It can sit in the garage for the next 9 years and I’d give him a smoking deal on it. I put 75 shares in my 14 year old daughters UTMA at .82 |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 9:42:46 PM EDT
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On a related note, has anyone seen a 911 in Adventurine Green Metallic? Green's my favorite color, and I don't want one of the shouty pastels that are in vogue now, but it's awfully hard to tell from photos how that color translates in real life.
Hated the Tacoma's in whatever they're calling their mil green in pics. Saw one in the dealership, and it was very nice. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 9:45:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: On a related note, has anyone seen a 911 in Adventurine Green Metallic? Green's my favorite color, and I don't want one of the shouty pastels that are in vogue now, but it's awfully hard to tell from photos how that color translates in real life. Hated the Tacoma's in whatever they're calling their mil green in pics. Saw one in the dealership, and it was very nice. So how much will my little 130 shares make? 🤣 |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 9:52:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sparky: So how much will my little 130 shares make? 🤣 Well, they'll make for a great story... 
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Posted: 5/19/2020 10:20:50 PM EDT
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Im actually surprised MVIS isn't up more after-hours then it is.
Then again NNDM is spoiling us
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Posted: 5/19/2020 10:32:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NIevo: Im actually surprised MVIS isn't up more after-hours then it is. Then again NNDM is spoiling us I need to open low. I'm doubling my position tomorrow. Just finished the Reddit threads. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 10:35:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Layer60]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colt_thompson: I need to open low. I'm doubling my position tomorrow. Just finished the Reddit threads. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colt_thompson: Originally Posted By NIevo: Im actually surprised MVIS isn't up more after-hours then it is. Then again NNDM is spoiling us I need to open low. I'm doubling my position tomorrow. Just finished the Reddit threads. I have a fairly large buy poised for .85 but I doubt I will see it execute. Meanwhile, I have been dollar averaging on EQM and I plan to keep adding shares. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 11:30:03 PM EDT
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Is anyone going to be shorting Dow Chemicals (DOW) on Wed morning considering their Midland Michigan location is suffering due to multiple dam collapses in the past few hours?
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/BREAKING-Dam-breaking-near-Midland-MI-update-now-2-dams-gone--and-a-bridge--another-dam-/5-2329845/?page=1 |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 11:37:09 PM EDT
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Do you think we could actually see those type of buyout numbers?
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Posted: 5/19/2020 11:43:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sharkey762: Do you think we could actually see those type of buyout numbers? Personally, I do not. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 11:49:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Layer60: I have a fairly large buy poised for .85 but I doubt I will see it execute. Meanwhile, I have been dollar averaging on EQM and I plan to keep adding shares. Why EQM? Doubt we will see .85 but good luck
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Posted: 5/20/2020 6:35:02 AM EDT
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When things open up this morning I'm going to roll the dice and double my shares if it's not too high.
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Posted: 5/20/2020 6:36:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sharkey762: Do you think we could actually see those type of buyout numbers? I could see Microsoft tendering an offer between $3-$5. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 6:42:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NIevo: Why EQM? Doubt we will see .85 but good luck EQM consistently pays very high dividends and blew out the earnings estimates, despite the downturn and low oil prices (which people mistakenly thought would have a big effect on them - it doesn't). If you buy and hold, the stock effectively sits there and prints money; roughly 10% a year return. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 6:56:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: StevesZZ5]
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Here’s a question about buyouts, mergers, etc.
If Company A is bought out by Company B, how is it distributed to shareholders? So in the merger of the company I worked for, we got one share of Company B shares for every two of our (Company A) shares. I’m guessing that would be the same for MVIS...a ratio of both companies shares, say .125 to 1 (MVIS to MSFT) for example? And is a buyout the same as a merger? If they just buy a portion on MVIS, what happens? Is that what’s referred to when there’s talk about a buying company’s interest in “verticals”? |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 7:05:33 AM EDT
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storms took out the power last night.
i wanted to ask... the reverse split is approved. does that mean 1:5 or 1:10 ? how does that affect any buyout price, since the float will be smaller? thanks for all the posters in this thread. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 7:10:38 AM EDT
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The reverse split is on the table as an option.
If this stays listed (above a buck for ten days I believe), there is no reason to do the split. There’s an august deadline. Somebody more knowledgeable will be able to provide details. I doubt there will be any issue what so ever from this point out maintaining a listing. Yesterday’s news was just too big. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 7:11:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: colt_thompson]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevesZZ5: Here’s a question about buyouts, mergers, etc. If Company A is bought out by Company B, how is it distributed to shareholders? So in the merger of the company I worked for, we got one share of Company B shares for every two of our (Company A) shares. I’m guessing that would be the same for MVIS...a ratio of both companies shares, say .125 to 1 (MVIS to MSFT) for example? And is a buyout the same as a merger? If they just buy a portion on MVIS, what happens? Is that what’s referred to when there’s talk about a buying company’s interest in “verticals”? Buyouts/mergers can be cash, stock or a mixture of the two. If only a portion of the company was bought, the executives determine what to do with the proceeds. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 7:15:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colt_thompson: Buyouts/mergers can be cash, stock or a mixture of the two. If only a portion of the company was bought, the executives determine what to do with the proceeds. Thank you. I’d love it if it were in stock. I’d hold for the year to avoid long term capital gains. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 7:27:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevesZZ5: The reverse split is on the table as an option. If this stays listed (above a buck for ten days I believe), there is no reason to do the split. There’s an august deadline. Somebody more knowledgeable will be able to provide details. I doubt there will be any issue what so ever from this point out maintaining a listing. Yesterday’s news was just too big. thanks for the feedback. might get back in this morn. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 7:58:09 AM EDT
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Question. RMBL after the split is no longer supported for trading on Webull, but I had a few hundred dollars in it and now I seem to not be able to figure out how to dump that stock?
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Posted: 5/20/2020 8:53:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK: Seems cool. Tomorrow should be interesting. I have lots of buying power for tomorrow if it takes off. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/173565/Screenshot_20200519-194752_Messenger_jpg-1424257.JPG Oof. It just took a little bit of a dip.... |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 8:57:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hamiltbl2: It just took a little bit of a dip.... Only 50%. Tis but a scratch
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Posted: 5/20/2020 9:01:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FDrifting: Question. RMBL after the split is no longer supported for trading on Webull, but I had a few hundred dollars in it and now I seem to not be able to figure out how to dump that stock? |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 9:08:33 AM EDT
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KTOV could be good today and hopefully IBIO
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Posted: 5/20/2020 9:11:39 AM EDT
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Be wary of NNDM. They just did an offering. It's way down.
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Posted: 5/20/2020 9:14:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FDrifting: Nvm it's able to trade again. That was fucking weird. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FDrifting: Originally Posted By FDrifting: Question. RMBL after the split is no longer supported for trading on Webull, but I had a few hundred dollars in it and now I seem to not be able to figure out how to dump that stock? There is something weird going on with my Robinhood list this morning: RumbleOn $8.62 +$8.14 (+1,684.68%) Pre-Market |
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