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Link Posted: 7/8/2020 9:20:53 AM EDT
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It’ll be much like the Soviet Peasant Wars

All the resources going to the metropolitan areas
Peasants rise up, peasants quashed
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 9:21:22 AM EDT
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One thing I think---if Biden wins, this virus will very quickly become a non-issue. . . "new studies show the virus has been largely eradicated. . blah, blah, blah.". . .  If Trump wins, it will continue to be worse than the Black Death. . .
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pretty much, i agree 100% !
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 9:25:45 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/8/2020 9:26:02 AM EDT
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Eventual Balkanization.  If the majority no longer loves what this country represents, It's history nor it's greatness, then there will be no reason to preserve it.  I think the first to secede will be the upper midwest (flyover country).  Ironically the coasts will want to preserve the union because of all the government programs that feed their communist ideology.  

So, civil war II
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 9:31:34 AM EDT
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This seems fairly similar to some of the stuff happening in the late 60s, doesn't it? I wasn't alive at the time but I see a lot of parallels.
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I was.

The difference is that the communists running the public schools and infiltrating media in this country has had 50+years to indoctrinate two generations with their propaganda.
As conservatives I’ve seen the Constitution and rule of law shredded in my lifetime.
There is a GREAT thread called the Bolivian Boogaloo somewhere on ARF that will give you great insights as to what is coming.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 9:32:32 AM EDT
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America is unique in that we have enshrined rights but not much of an unwritten social contract—the expectations and obligations we have of each other. Most other nations are the opposite, which is why they often feel like they have their shit together on one hand, but have crushing conformism and recurring, endemic problems on the other. That's why we create entire industries time and again—hopefully we can invent our way out of today's bullshit!
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That's actually one of the most insightful things I've ever read in GD
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 9:40:45 AM EDT
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I'm sure we have people on this board who study politics. Probably guys who've seen civil war. Probably guys who worked jobs to know this kind of thing.
Where do you guys think we are headed at this hyper accelerated division of our country, and the hard communist push to take over our government?
And, importantly what happens with the creep across the cities to attack the second amendment?
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Civil war?

People are already shooting each other in the street, in attacks promoted by media and funded by the ultra-rich.

They've found their leader.

We have ours.

Are we not in a shooting war already?

If Trump loses, we are toast and can all expect to be rounded up and put in cattle cars for re-education and extermination. That's what the left says anyways, I have no reason to doubt their intent to carry that out.

If Trump wins we can expect THEM to escalate the violence even further. Or at least try to.

The only thing I can foresee stopping it is if the puppet master's purse strings are cut with extreme prejudice.

If there are "sealed indictments" they better start unsealing them soon, or else.

Link Posted: 7/8/2020 9:45:58 AM EDT
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I was.

The difference is that the communists running the public schools and infiltrating media in this country has had 50+years to indoctrinate two generations with their propaganda.
As conservatives I’ve seen the Constitution and rule of law shredded in my lifetime.
There is a GREAT thread called the Bolivian Boogaloo somewhere on ARF that will give you great insights as to what is coming.
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This seems fairly similar to some of the stuff happening in the late 60s, doesn't it? I wasn't alive at the time but I see a lot of parallels.

I was.

The difference is that the communists running the public schools and infiltrating media in this country has had 50+years to indoctrinate two generations with their propaganda.
As conservatives I’ve seen the Constitution and rule of law shredded in my lifetime.
There is a GREAT thread called the Bolivian Boogaloo somewhere on ARF that will give you great insights as to what is coming.


The news media now speak openly and brazenly of our "Ruling Class" who is above prosecution.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 9:47:03 AM EDT
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This.  Depends on whether the side being targeted eventually takes Solzhenitsyn's advice or not.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 9:48:15 AM EDT
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You sure?? Where is the financial play on the 7 vs 14 nm deal????
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The west, Intel especially, cannot get the lithography process right to go smaller. They have failed for years.  Taiwan has 7nm down cold and is working on 2nm now.  Huge disparity in technology.  And most major companies are using Taiwan for outsourced chip production.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 9:50:11 AM EDT
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Or the late 1850's....

I don't know that in the 60's, armed, uniformed thugs were stopping traffic and beating/killing motorists unopposed.


One thing I know for sure is that it can't go on this way.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 9:56:34 AM EDT
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Or the late 1850's....

I don't know that in the 60's, armed, uniformed thugs were stopping traffic and beating/killing motorists unopposed.


One thing I know for sure is that it can't go on this way.
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This seems fairly similar to some of the stuff happening in the late 60s, doesn't it? I wasn't alive at the time but I see a lot of parallels.



Or the late 1850's....

I don't know that in the 60's, armed, uniformed thugs were stopping traffic and beating/killing motorists unopposed.


One thing I know for sure is that it can't go on this way.


Maybe some good guys need to start watching these "protests" with spotting scopes from a distance, with high power rifles nearby. The laws in many states say you can defend the life of another person. It doesn't say you have to do it from nearby...

Hook up a camera to your scope for proof of each shot taken, so you don't go to prison.

Post on youtube.

???

Profit.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 9:56:40 AM EDT
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TO SAVE OUR NATIONAL STATUS quo WE MUST WIN THE WAR WITH CHINA


it really is that simple.  

Link Posted: 7/8/2020 10:02:15 AM EDT
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This and that
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 10:07:01 AM EDT
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Politicians will keep getting richer by laundering money while laughing all the way to the bank.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 10:08:29 AM EDT
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Compared to the 60’s these “riots” are weak sauce.

There were over 3400 arrests in the Watts riots. 34 deaths...1,200 injured.

CA National guard was responsible for 7 deaths.  LACS and LAPD 24.

Link Posted: 7/8/2020 10:09:51 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/8/2020 10:10:31 AM EDT
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Short (5-10 years) debt, more and more debt.

After that, nobody knows.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 10:13:58 AM EDT
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Chances are, the country continues it's mad dash to socialism, and the right sits on our hands and claims moral high ground, while losing all freedoms in the process.  A few of us at least know what needs to be done, but as is evidenced by so many here, it will never happen.  I'm on day #2 of mostly divesting from politics.  I see it only as a drain on my mental health, and everything I say and do falls on deaf ears, so I'm getting nothing out of ruining my own mental well being.  If more people wake up, I'll happily be there to fight along side you.  Until that time, I'm just here for guns and beer.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 10:25:58 AM EDT
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America becomes a hispano-socialist state.

That's it.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 10:28:07 AM EDT
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7 vs 14nm doesn't take into effect quantum computing where we have a bit of an advantage. I'm not sure how much this matters. Plus, Taiwan isn't going out like a bitch. The rest of your assessment I don't have much argument against though.
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I've spoken with multiple generations, ethnicities, and all sides of the political spectrum.

According to the 80yo+ crowd, things are worse than the 60s', by virtue of the population being half ultra liberal, and fewer men who fought in WWII and Korea, plus the growing fight against communism and the cold war.  Where a small percentage of people were hippies in the 60s', and didn't have popular and establishment support, today's liberal knows virtually nothing of the evils of communism, socialism, etc.  They all say poor blacks have gotten so used to being on the tit, and told they are victims, they have none of the common sense of blacks 3-4 generations ago.  They see the country burning to the ground.

The black folks I know are divided into two camps. Conservatives, and growingly militant and ignorant black nationalists or brainwashed racists. It's a 20/80 split.  They want to tear the system down, kill whitey, and be just like South Africa.

The average person is scared shitless.  30% are on team FOX, 40% on team CNN, and the last 30% are getting more and more purple every day, trying to reconcile the dissonance.

We are in a bitches brew of problems during a potential regime change. On top of that;  We haven't been this vulnerable as a nation to foreign influence and destabilization since the revolution.  Faith in political parties, systems, and branches of government have never been lower.  Rule of law has disappeared in many places too.  It's all corrupted and the vote will be too.

So, we are heading for a contested election, no matter who wins.  A third of the country will fight to get the old America back. A third to end it and start over as a new socialist state run by racism.  China is going to put money into the destabilization so they can expand their territory, like Japan did. They will back the left who they know will cave and allow more trade deficits to escalate.

So, it's going to be red counties on their own, fighting blue counties backed by the media and China.

That's what this has all been about really. China, knocking the US off the pedestal, while taking hold of strategic locations globally.  Taiwan is critical, because with it, they will control TSMC, and their 7nm chip technology, which is vastly superior to the Wests 14nm  processor plants.  We won't be able to compete technologically from that point forward.  They will have us by the balls, out compute us, out hack us, and dismantle what we have technologically.



You sure?? Where is the financial play on the 7 vs 14 nm deal????
7 vs 14nm doesn't take into effect quantum computing where we have a bit of an advantage. I'm not sure how much this matters. Plus, Taiwan isn't going out like a bitch. The rest of your assessment I don't have much argument against though.


Quantum is still in its infancy.  All devices from phones and tvs, to space vehicles, missile guidance and countermeasures are run on silicon and will be for a long time.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 10:30:03 AM EDT
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I have know idea what to expect. It's crazy that the media and politicians encourage and endorse the chaos currently going down. And if you attempt to defend yourself you're the enemy.
Quite a toxic environment for freedom loving law abiding citizens. Step out of line and you're targeted.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 10:35:37 AM EDT
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Join date.

If its not sarcasm/ satire, I might thing you support the Marxists?
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Nothing. Marijuana will be legalized across the country, government will issue $1,200 checks a month and free wifi. All will be peace and love, like the CHAZ. But more weed and wifi.


Join date.

If its not sarcasm/ satire, I might thing you support the Marxists?


What does that have to do with the Question ask ?

Join date, Post Count.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 10:38:23 AM EDT
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It’s amazing the influence that a few leftist billionaires can have on the country and the world.  A million dollars spread out annually to community agitators and whore politicians is pocket change to them, but it buys a lot.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 10:39:38 AM EDT
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No one can predict the future.
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It's anybody's guess at this point.



+1

No one can predict the future.



History repeats its self and all that.  Predict no...but same road traveled results in same scenery.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 10:55:33 AM EDT
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That's actually one of the most insightful things I've ever read in GD
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America is unique in that we have enshrined rights but not much of an unwritten social contractthe expectations and obligations we have of each other. Most other nations are the opposite, which is why they often feel like they have their shit together on one hand, but have crushing conformism and recurring, endemic problems on the other. That's why we create entire industries time and againhopefully we can invent our way out of today's bullshit!


That's actually one of the most insightful things I've ever read in GD
Indeed QFT.

Danus is describing culture; an actual culture with it's own set of social norms and mores.
Not the hipster "5 different Cantonese resteraunts to choose from!" Style "culture" lol.

People bound together by cultural norms tend to do more self policing.

Speed
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 10:58:19 AM EDT
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Polls show Biden winning we are fucked.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 11:10:59 AM EDT
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Really? How bias do you think those polls which the media collects themselves. Hillary was up on trump and we all know how that turned out.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 11:17:43 AM EDT
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I don't know what's likely to happen, there are too many ways this situation could go. For those who wonder if this is worse than the 60's the answer is yes. The hatred for our fellow man between races and the pent up anger of minorities for their perceived mistreatment and lack of opportunities are a different situation. White folks are the enemy to many, and when that happens white people are more likely to see non-whites the same way. That dynamic wasn't as widespread or intense in the 60's.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 11:25:36 AM EDT
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The media is running a massive demoralization campaign.  Every bit of bad news is amplified a hundred fold, any bit of good news is suppressed.  To get any type of information that does not come with a panic porn narrative you have to get away from mass media.  I can't even watch the local new channels at this point.  Aside from the weather it is 40 minutes of pimping DOOOOM.

I believe a lot of what happens next will depend on how most people react to the constant bombardment of negatively.  Are they going to remain hysterical for the next few months leading up to the election?  Are they going to burn out and give in to whatever the narrative is?  Maybe they just get bored with it all and go back to life?  Who knows.

I can only control my own actions and reactions to what is going on.  I am preparing my family as best I can to make sure if things get more weird that we have at least a bit of comfort and are not picking through trash for supper for at least a day or two.  Beyond that I am making an effort to rest, recover, and find some enjoyment.  I may even grab a little vacation if we can get to a somewhat calm patch.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 11:26:42 AM EDT
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We've never had discussions on racial issues at work.
Everyone even today agreed diversity is great at the company and everyone is respected, but then also said we have to talk about it at work so we can all take the discussion back and "fix it at home."

Today, we heard from people at all levels saying phrases like police brutality, racial injustice, and encouraging protesting.

I've never feared for the future of our country, or my job, until today.

I think the Left will continue to gain more power and influence until conservatives are the minority and oppressed and totally persecuted. We're too unorganized and spread out to make a stand.
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What in the f**k!! That is unbelievable. May I ask what general area of Tennessee you work in or what general area of work you do? Just curious.


Link Posted: 7/8/2020 11:27:30 AM EDT
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Economic collapse (it's coming) with rebirth.  

We may have war after the collapse (foreign invasion).
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 11:43:32 AM EDT
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Ok, Im guessing that with 200 new Federal judges on the bench and no vacancies left, the Trump administration will leave a lasting legacy in the courts. And, Im guessing that those judges with 178,000 sealed indictments already filed are chomping at the bit to see them start being unsealed. And Im guessing since the DOJ and FBI are now cleaned up, that the system is working just fine - or how did we get all those indictments? Buy them wholesale from China? Nope. Hard work, just like Wray said yesterday, a new case is opened up AGAINST China every 10 hours right now, half of the case load is Chinese subversion of our country. MORE indictments are on the way.

And we are unsealing the indictments, one is Ghislane Maxwell, sheltered pedophile and procurer of the elite, who has complaints dating back to 1996, over 24 years of criminal culpability that the SDNY covered up - until Berman got fired (something IS happening) and now, after hiding out for 6 months in NH (and the FBI "kept tabs" on her? Yeah sure, she was already deposed and gave testimony, where to all those indictments come from? ) she's been arrested and is quarantined for Covid exposure. Or, submitting to a Grand Jury her star appearance.

Look at who she can name: The Epstein flight logs of visitors to Lolita Island, including heads of state, legislators, stars, corporate owners and CEO's, Royalty - Prince Andrew is already defrocked and on his own - and that is just the people we know about. Any number of other corporate aircraft chartered for an wild weekend with underaged children are yet to be revealed, and did you know that island had an underwater entrance for submarines? Maxwell is a licensed submersible operator. You could glide in and nobody would ever know you were there. It's not like you are parading thru the guest house saying Oh hi saw you in your new movie pizza or hot dogs tonite?



It's been three years, Sullivan is blocking Flynn from being released of his gag order while the enemies of American laugh. They don't care if the Judge's career and legacy is thrown in a dumpster fire, whatever it takes to stop Trump. And by informed accounts we are about to see how Maxwells testimony leads to Weiner's laptop insurance file to by name arrests of famous people who are all guilty and some who will hang.

Treason.

And Judge Roberts may well be the reason why military tribunals are needed in some cases. Which can be easily conducted in the newly refurbished and upgraded GTMO courtrooms with SCIF to study classified information for the defendants - who are going to see their faces and hear their voices in a way they cannot defend, in a trial they cannot subvert, with prosecutors they cannot buy, and against witnesses they cannot kill off.

Stay tuned, nothing can stop what is coming.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 11:46:03 AM EDT
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Euro styled socialism with a very strong Leftist domestic policy.

Definitely Donald you can to it but demographics is destiny.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 11:48:43 AM EDT
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Ok, Im guessing that with 200 new Federal judges on the bench and no vacancies left, the Trump administration will leave a lasting legacy in the courts. And, Im guessing that those judges with 178,000 sealed indictments already filed are chomping at the bit to see them start being unsealed. And Im guessing since the DOJ and FBI are now cleaned up, that the system is working just fine - or how did we get all those indictments? Buy them wholesale from China? Nope. Hard work, just like Wray said yesterday, a new case is opened up AGAINST China every 10 hours right now, half of the case load is Chinese subversion of our country. MORE indictments are on the way.

And we are unsealing the indictments, one is Ghislane Maxwell, sheltered pedophile and procurer of the elite, who has complaints dating back to 1996, over 24 years of criminal culpability that the SDNY covered up - until Berman got fired (something IS happening) and now, after hiding out for 6 months in NH (and the FBI "kept tabs" on her? Yeah sure, she was already deposed and gave testimony, where to all those indictments come from? ) she's been arrested and is quarantined for Covid exposure. Or, submitting to a Grand Jury her star appearance.

Look at who she can name: The Epstein flight logs of visitors to Lolita Island, including heads of state, legislators, stars, corporate owners and CEO's, Royalty - Prince Andrew is already defrocked and on his own - and that is just the people we know about. Any number of other corporate aircraft chartered for an wild weekend with underaged children are yet to be revealed, and did you know that island had an underwater entrance for submarines? Maxwell is a licensed submersible operator. You could glide in and nobody would ever know you were there. It's not like you are parading thru the guest house saying Oh hi saw you in your new movie pizza or hot dogs tonite?



It's been three years, Sullivan is blocking Flynn from being released of his gag order while the enemies of American laugh. They don't care if the Judge's career and legacy is thrown in a dumpster fire, whatever it takes to stop Trump. And by informed accounts we are about to see how Maxwells testimony leads to Weiner's laptop insurance file to by name arrests of famous people who are all guilty and some who will hang.

Treason.

And Judge Roberts may well be the reason why military tribunals are needed in some cases. Which can be easily conducted in the newly refurbished and upgraded GTMO courtrooms with SCIF to study classified information for the defendants - who are going to see their faces and hear their voices in a way they cannot defend, in a trial they cannot subvert, with prosecutors they cannot buy, and against witnesses they cannot kill off.

Stay tuned, nothing can stop what is coming.
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Lol
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I'll be born again.
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It's all been in the news - the first thing people do when they see truth is ridicule it. Then they demonize those who bring it. After that, they light torches and pitchforks to hunt them down - Twitter, FB, Instagram, Youtube are all banning and censoring the people who dig this out and tell you this. Is it not a clue?

I recited the actual news and facts, drew some conclusions along the way, and it's "lol" when presented? How is that any different than some of the other opinons given with substantiation. Certainly nothing of substance to discuss in an ongoing conversation about what the future holds?

We have the judges, that is a fact. The indictments are filed that is a fact. Maxwell is under arrest and is known as a procurer of children for the elite, photographs are all over the internet, complaints filed, open records, names named.

Lol to anyone in denial. It's either that or trying to hide the facts with dissimulation - accuse someone of being other than normal. Thank god I am, the normal people these days are taking a knee and wearing a mask over a low level virus and accepting that Cuomo can legally kill their grandparents for the greater good.

Oh yeah, Lol that, too? It's hard to discern where some really stands when there is so little to work with other than snark. It can only be concluded they have no opinion because they have no idea what is going on, no grasp of the facts, and care little about finding out what is going on.

Oh woe is us, there goes the American voter, clueless and inept? Hopefully Churchill is wrong at some point. I think we are way past the "try everything" phase and ready for the "high crimes and treason phase." And I am not alone. There are millions of like minds, if only some of us can pull our heads out of the sand to see it.

It's right out there to read and assimilate. It's going to be quite the shock - just like the villagers the military had tour the Nazi Death Camps, they know what was going on but didn't do anything. Are we characters in a Veggie tales cartoon? If so, Vote Joe Biden. Another vegetable.

My future is a world where justice denied is now delivered. Im thinking mine is a lot more rosy than the dystopian nightmare so many here posted. Lol? Sure. It will be a much happier place.

I will even share it with you. And you can thank me later.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 12:12:30 PM EDT
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No idea...but there will be many threads on arfcom with a massive circle jerk on the SHTF...that is one thing you can count on...
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 12:24:19 PM EDT
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The left will keep pushing until the election. Increased violence in the form of riots or incidents of un-provoked assault trying to get a counter movement on the right moving.

If we’re smart we will keep doing what we’re doing keeping to ourselves and preparing. If there isn’t a reaction there will likely be false flag incidents to make up for the lack of real violence.

Those with the means will continue vacating the cities straining the revenue/expense disparity for major metro areas.
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Ok, Im guessing that with 200 new Federal judges on the bench and no vacancies left, the Trump administration will leave a lasting legacy in the courts. And, Im guessing that those judges with 178,000 sealed indictments already filed are chomping at the bit to see them start being unsealed. And Im guessing since the DOJ and FBI are now cleaned up, that the system is working just fine - or how did we get all those indictments? Buy them wholesale from China? Nope. Hard work, just like Wray said yesterday, a new case is opened up AGAINST China every 10 hours right now, half of the case load is Chinese subversion of our country. MORE indictments are on the way.

And we are unsealing the indictments, one is Ghislane Maxwell, sheltered pedophile and procurer of the elite, who has complaints dating back to 1996, over 24 years of criminal culpability that the SDNY covered up - until Berman got fired (something IS happening) and now, after hiding out for 6 months in NH (and the FBI "kept tabs" on her? Yeah sure, she was already deposed and gave testimony, where to all those indictments come from? ) she's been arrested and is quarantined for Covid exposure. Or, submitting to a Grand Jury her star appearance.

Look at who she can name: The Epstein flight logs of visitors to Lolita Island, including heads of state, legislators, stars, corporate owners and CEO's, Royalty - Prince Andrew is already defrocked and on his own - and that is just the people we know about. Any number of other corporate aircraft chartered for an wild weekend with underaged children are yet to be revealed, and did you know that island had an underwater entrance for submarines? Maxwell is a licensed submersible operator. You could glide in and nobody would ever know you were there. It's not like you are parading thru the guest house saying Oh hi saw you in your new movie pizza or hot dogs tonite?



It's been three years, Sullivan is blocking Flynn from being released of his gag order while the enemies of American laugh. They don't care if the Judge's career and legacy is thrown in a dumpster fire, whatever it takes to stop Trump. And by informed accounts we are about to see how Maxwells testimony leads to Weiner's laptop insurance file to by name arrests of famous people who are all guilty and some who will hang.

Treason.

And Judge Roberts may well be the reason why military tribunals are needed in some cases. Which can be easily conducted in the newly refurbished and upgraded GTMO courtrooms with SCIF to study classified information for the defendants - who are going to see their faces and hear their voices in a way they cannot defend, in a trial they cannot subvert, with prosecutors they cannot buy, and against witnesses they cannot kill off.

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I don't think it will slide as far as the Left thinks it will.

Right now there are a lot of media types who have platforms and soapboxes and they are the loudest voices.

But there also seems to be a lot of people on their side starting to speak out and attempting to put the brakes on the stupidity.

There are some very extreme views that the media platforms are letting have their moment, until it goes into crazy town and then everyone shuts it down.

I don't think there will be any real large scale violence that is organized, right now we are seeing sporadic anarchy and looting but nothing really organized.

Most of the real revolutions had good solid numbers of very organized and very determined revolutionaries.

IMHO, most of the people doing this aren't that passionate, they are mostly fair weather opportunists.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 12:41:31 PM EDT
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As someone born in the late 50s, I can assure you the 60s protests were never this bad. What separates those days from now is the level to which the Democrat party has sunk. When there were serious protests in Chicago during the convention, Democrat mayor Richard Daley sicced the Chicago police on them and heads were cracked. Democrats were law and order types too. Not any more. Now they stand down and let the mobs run rampant, and if there is any backlash against the mob, they step in with the police to protect them.

We are heading into uncharted waters, and from what I see, it is going to get worse with the blessings of the Democrat party before the election.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 12:51:02 PM EDT
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Anyone with half a brain is taking a pass on the whole racial division garbage. Not ONE of my black friends thinks that
rioting or removing statues will solve anything. And NONE of my other friends, regardless of race or gender, have taken the bait.
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I imagine you do not live in an area where the percentage of blacks is very high.
I have lots of black friends but there have been plenty of cold shoulders and noses held at high angles over the last month. I live in an area where the demographics are around 40 percent black.  To say things have been pins and needles around here is an understatement.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 12:53:25 PM EDT
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Quantum is still in its infancy.  All devices from phones and tvs, to space vehicles, missile guidance and countermeasures are run on silicon and will be for a long time.
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I've spoken with multiple generations, ethnicities, and all sides of the political spectrum.

According to the 80yo+ crowd, things are worse than the 60s', by virtue of the population being half ultra liberal, and fewer men who fought in WWII and Korea, plus the growing fight against communism and the cold war.  Where a small percentage of people were hippies in the 60s', and didn't have popular and establishment support, today's liberal knows virtually nothing of the evils of communism, socialism, etc.  They all say poor blacks have gotten so used to being on the tit, and told they are victims, they have none of the common sense of blacks 3-4 generations ago.  They see the country burning to the ground.

The black folks I know are divided into two camps. Conservatives, and growingly militant and ignorant black nationalists or brainwashed racists. It's a 20/80 split.  They want to tear the system down, kill whitey, and be just like South Africa.

The average person is scared shitless.  30% are on team FOX, 40% on team CNN, and the last 30% are getting more and more purple every day, trying to reconcile the dissonance.

We are in a bitches brew of problems during a potential regime change. On top of that;  We haven't been this vulnerable as a nation to foreign influence and destabilization since the revolution.  Faith in political parties, systems, and branches of government have never been lower.  Rule of law has disappeared in many places too.  It's all corrupted and the vote will be too.

So, we are heading for a contested election, no matter who wins.  A third of the country will fight to get the old America back. A third to end it and start over as a new socialist state run by racism.  China is going to put money into the destabilization so they can expand their territory, like Japan did. They will back the left who they know will cave and allow more trade deficits to escalate.

So, it's going to be red counties on their own, fighting blue counties backed by the media and China.

That's what this has all been about really. China, knocking the US off the pedestal, while taking hold of strategic locations globally.  Taiwan is critical, because with it, they will control TSMC, and their 7nm chip technology, which is vastly superior to the Wests 14nm  processor plants.  We won't be able to compete technologically from that point forward.  They will have us by the balls, out compute us, out hack us, and dismantle what we have technologically.



You sure?? Where is the financial play on the 7 vs 14 nm deal????
7 vs 14nm doesn't take into effect quantum computing where we have a bit of an advantage. I'm not sure how much this matters. Plus, Taiwan isn't going out like a bitch. The rest of your assessment I don't have much argument against though.


Quantum is still in its infancy.  All devices from phones and tvs, to space vehicles, missile guidance and countermeasures are run on silicon and will be for a long time.


TSM revealed its initial 3nm (N3) process specs for 2023. They are underwhelming.

N3 has 1.7x higher density on a 2.5 year cadence. Since Intel 7nm has 2.0-2.4x higher density on a 2-year cadence, Intel is catching up.

N3 may not be meaningfully denser than Intel's 7nm (late 2021), which launches over a year earlier. TSM's N3 looks more like Intel's 7nm than 5nm.

TSM maintains FinFET, which means no GAA until 2024 or 2025, which Samsung will ship in 2022, Intel in late 2023.

Altogether, it looks like TSM's inherited process leadership will be reduced to parity at best within two years.


Is this where I need to be reading???
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 1:14:08 PM EDT
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If you study American history and politics from the 1840s and 1850s, you'll see exactly where we're going.

The only difference is that few people these days will strap on a cavalry sword or grab a musket to defend their home state for The Glorious Cause.

Most people will quietly submit to a Communist takeover. Those who don't will forfeit their fortunes and be imprisoned. Or simply be killed.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 1:28:39 PM EDT
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If you study American history and politics from the 1840s and 1850s, you'll see exactly where we're going.

The only difference is that few people these days will strap on a cavalry sword or grab a musket to defend their home state for The Glorious Cause.

Most people will quietly submit to a Communist takeover. Those who don't will forfeit their fortunes and be imprisoned. Or simply be killed.
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Beyond college football rivalries there isn't much allegiance to states like there was prior to the War Of Northern Aggression.

Hopefully, folks will at least take up arms to defend their communities and their homes.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 1:35:50 PM EDT
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Referencing the communist written and endorsed plan to bring the United States to a socialist (communist) society, the ultimate goal is to gain the White House thru violent or non-violent means up to and including overthrow of the government (the violent option). I predict increased violence and empowerment of the blacks thru a radical left media propaganda campaign (duh). I think they will ratchet this up as we get closer to the election in order to have that violent (overthrow) option available should it become necessary. As was stated before the election results are going to be a hot potato no matter who wins. This is where it gets sticky in my mind at least. Should the left decide on a political coup how many in the military, DOJ, CIA, FBI, Secret Service are going to go along with that? As we've seen in other countries, the disputed winner always has the loyalty of the military to remain in office (Venezuela).


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Link Posted: 7/8/2020 2:17:59 PM EDT
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Most of my friends are petit bourgeois lefties. They couldn't take over a Zoom happy hour much less bring communism to America. I urge everyone to visit a current pseudo communist or former communist nation—you don't know communism until you see it on people's faces. Or in their hopeless fucking voices.

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Fair enough. And I appreciate you talking about your real world experience. But it looks to me like our own government is going to be the source of the communism (by some other name). The violence on the street by antifa is just the face/window dressing.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 2:22:49 PM EDT
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The commies want all the power, the BLM want 14 Trillion and no law and order. The rest of us want the Constitution followed. Two of the three are going to loose. You pick the winner.
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My opinion is that what we are seeing is due in large part to the failure of the Republican Party to live up to authentic conservative ideals.

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That is 100% the fault of people who want republican ideals but are not willing to put forth any of their own effort to save the country for their friends, family, or children. We literally could flip this whole situation in a week if we were willing. Moderates and conservatives protesting at city hall by the thousands would change everything immediately.
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