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Link Posted: 3/24/2019 11:01:09 PM EDT
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THIS THREAD DELIVERS!!!!ALTHOUGH NOW, IM EVEN MORE MIND FUCKED!
Link Posted: 3/25/2019 12:31:15 PM EDT
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THIS THREAD DELIVERS!!!!ALTHOUGH NOW, IM EVEN MORE MIND FUCKED!
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Welcome to the party pal.
Link Posted: 3/25/2019 1:01:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 6GUNZ:
Well that's kind of the point. No viewpoint fits all available evidence, including the mainstream view. That's because the evidence is self contradictory.

Also, none of what I've said is anything I'm proposing personally. I'm just relaying what the sources say, and then adding a bit of speculation. The viewpoint I presented probably conforms with 90% or more of the available evidence. And it might conform with all of it, if you approach it from a big picture perspective. Herodotus might have simply misunderstood some things. Like I said before, it's not outside the realm of possibility that Khufu was the legendary builder of the pyramids, and then the Khufu of the new kingdom, after restoring them, took the legendary figure's name. So it might be true that someone named Khufu built the pyramids, just not the one we think.

My opinion is that there's an element of truth in all ancient sources. That's why you have to look at it from a far distance, and not get hung up on details that don't match. It's very similar to piecing together a story from multiple eyewitness statements. There will be contradictions in the details.
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:

It's rather simple really. None of what you have proposed fits all available evidence, it might have some validity in some circumstance when viewed in isolation.

As a whole, it has no more merit than the prevailing mainstream view. Of which there are known issues with incongruity, seeing as how it is based on evidence that is just a subset of all potentially available evidence. Some of which, we may never recover or be able to understand. Who knows, maybe you're the next Harlan Bretz or Clair Patterson.
Well that's kind of the point. No viewpoint fits all available evidence, including the mainstream view. That's because the evidence is self contradictory.

Also, none of what I've said is anything I'm proposing personally. I'm just relaying what the sources say, and then adding a bit of speculation. The viewpoint I presented probably conforms with 90% or more of the available evidence. And it might conform with all of it, if you approach it from a big picture perspective. Herodotus might have simply misunderstood some things. Like I said before, it's not outside the realm of possibility that Khufu was the legendary builder of the pyramids, and then the Khufu of the new kingdom, after restoring them, took the legendary figure's name. So it might be true that someone named Khufu built the pyramids, just not the one we think.

My opinion is that there's an element of truth in all ancient sources. That's why you have to look at it from a far distance, and not get hung up on details that don't match. It's very similar to piecing together a story from multiple eyewitness statements. There will be contradictions in the details.
It's the extent of the speculation. You do the actual truth(which we may never fully have) a disservice, by the recklessness of it. It moves from academic inquiry to flights of fancy, which does nothing but further reinforce that the "mainstream" view is the correct view.

It's infuriating honestly.
Link Posted: 3/25/2019 1:53:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:

It's the extent of the speculation. You do the actual truth(which we may never fully have) a disservice, by the recklessness of it. It moves from academic inquiry to flights of fancy, which does nothing but further reinforce that the "mainstream" view is the correct view.

It's infuriating honestly.
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Oh get your panties out of a wad. Nobody is doing the "truth" a disservice here. You sound like those global warming nutjobs who think deniers are somehow the only thing standing in the way of universal acceptance. Nevermind the fact that their logic is shit. There is so much passive aggressive fagotry in your post I don't even know where to begin.
Link Posted: 3/25/2019 2:30:52 PM EDT
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Saw this article today.  Again, the authors reinforce that it's a theory.  It's the best they can do with the available info.

The point is that, in truth, no one knows for certain how the old stuff was built and what actually happened to whoever built them.

The best we can do it to put the pieces we have together until we find more pieces to help building the puzzle.

Scientists think they’ve solved one mystery of Easter Island’s statues

Rapa Nui islanders survived by building strong communities around limited resources.

Chile's Easter Island (Rapa Nui) is famous for its giant monumental statues, called moai, built by early inhabitants some 800 years ago. The islanders likely chose the statues' locations based on the availability of fresh water sources, according to a recent paper in PLOS One.

Scholars have puzzled over the moai on Easter Island for decades, pondering their cultural significance, as well as how a Stone Age culture managed to carve and transport statues weighing as much as 92 tons. They were typically mounted on platforms called ahu. According to co-author Carl Lipo, an anthropologist at Binghamton University, you can have ahu (platforms) without moai (statues) and moai without ahu, usually along the roads leading to ahu; they were likely being transported and never got to their destination.

Back in 2012, Lipo and his colleague, Terry Hunt of the University of Arizona, showed that you could transport a ten-foot, five-ton moai a few hundred yards with just 18 people and three strong ropes by employing a rocking motion. Last year Lipo proposed an intriguing hypothesis for how the islanders placed red hats on top of some moai; those can weigh up to 13 tons. He suggested the inhabitants used ropes to roll the hats up a ramp.

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Link Posted: 3/25/2019 5:28:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 6GUNZ:
Oh get your panties out of a wad. Nobody is doing the "truth" a disservice here. You sound like those global warming nutjobs who think deniers are somehow the only thing standing in the way of universal acceptance. Nevermind the fact that their logic is shit. There is so much passive aggressive fagotry in your post I don't even know where to begin.
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:

It's the extent of the speculation. You do the actual truth(which we may never fully have) a disservice, by the recklessness of it. It moves from academic inquiry to flights of fancy, which does nothing but further reinforce that the "mainstream" view is the correct view.

It's infuriating honestly.
Oh get your panties out of a wad. Nobody is doing the "truth" a disservice here. You sound like those global warming nutjobs who think deniers are somehow the only thing standing in the way of universal acceptance. Nevermind the fact that their logic is shit. There is so much passive aggressive fagotry in your post I don't even know where to begin.
Sorry I offended your global truth suppression narrative. I'll let you get back to peddling horseshit like an Egyptologist, since, like them, you are the only one capable of explaining what really happened.

Two sides of the same coin.
Link Posted: 3/25/2019 6:12:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:

Sorry I offended your global truth suppression narrative. I'll let you get back to peddling horseshit like an Egyptologist, since, like them, you are the only one capable of explaining what really happened.

Two sides of the same coin.
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Again, I'm only relaying what the sources say. I'm just of the opinion that instead of reading tea leaves and consulting familiar spirits that we should simply listen to what the sources are telling us. I know that's a crazy idea, but our ancient ancestors weren't as stupid as we make them out to be. The fact that the greater body of scientific evidence supports their position is just the icing on the cake.

I also have a biblical worldview. If it comes down to believing the Bible or some hack Egyptologist, I'm going with the Bible every time. If that means believing ancient Atlanteans knew how to build a stargate, I'll buy it. I believe in a man who walked on water and a talking donkey, so it's not like it's that far of a stretch.

Just out of curiosity, what is YOUR view? You obviously don't believe in the official narrative. Are you of the opinion that they were built in the old kingdom?
Link Posted: 3/27/2019 1:30:15 PM EDT
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Another theory about Atlantis.  No stargates.  

Was Sardinia home to the mythical civilisation of Atlantis?

A comet plunging into the sea could have triggered a tidal wave that devastated bronze age settlements on the island, say scientists

Homer talks of Poseidon lashing out, Plato refers to a massive marine disaster. What happened on Sardinia in the second millennium BC? What dramatic event swept away the Tyrrhenian civilisation and the “tower builders” cited by Strabo and the poet Hesiod in antiquity? Was it an earthquake or a tidal wave? A comet? Was it punishment meted out by Zeus, as Plato suggests in Critias, acting pitilessly to improve the behaviour of these people who had been spoiled by living in a land where it was always spring? Certainly they occupied a beautiful, fertile island, endowed with all sorts of metal, both hard and malleable, such as zinc, lead and silver.

Writer and journalist Sergio Frau, one of the founders of Italian daily La Repubblica, has been investigating the subject for more than 10 years, drawing on the texts of the ancients. A dozen or so Italian scientists joined him when he visited Sardinia in early June. They included historian Mario Lombardo; archaeologist Maria Teresa Giannotta; Claudio Giardino, a specialist in ancient metallurgy; cartographer Andrea Cantile; archivist Massimo Faraglia; and Stefano Tinti, a geophysicist and expert on tidal waves.

Sardinia might be Plato’s island of Atlas, or in other words Atlantis, which the Greek philosopher placed beyond the pillars of Hercules, the strait between Sicily and Tunisia. Herodotus and Aristotle shared this view, which contradicts the idea that the term refers to the strait of Gibraltar, as was commonly supposed from the third century BC onwards. Frau, too, holds this conviction. Seen from the air the southern end of the island resembles “a marine Pompeii submerged by mud”, he says. Digging into this mud turns up ceramics, cups, pots, oil lamps, sharpening stones, metal implements, knives, chisels, needles and arrow tips, all mixed up, as if the people had been forced to drop everything and run. These remarkable archaeological finds attracted very little attention until the mid-20th century. For good reason, though. For about 3,000 years the island seemed to be under a curse, a prey to malaria until 1946-50 when the Rockefeller Foundation experimented with the use of DDT for eradicating the mosquitoes that carried the disease. We now know that thousands of nuraghi – megalithic fortresses with a central tower – are scattered all over the island. They date from the middle of the bronze age, between the 16th and 12th century BC. In Medio Campidano province, in the south, they have vanished under piles of earth covered in vegetation. Only the ones on high ground, over 500 metres, have been spared. In the past 20 years the number of registered structures has risen from 9,000 to 20,000.
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Frau quotes an inscription in the mortuary temple of Ramesses III (1184-1153BC) at Medinet Habu, Upper Egypt. It tells of how foreigners from the north saw the earthquake. Then the waters engulfed their land, the sea god Nun having stirred and sent a huge wave to swallow up towns and villages. The foreigners were probably Sardinian mercenaries employed by the pharaoh. So was this just a mythical event or a real disaster?

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Link Posted: 3/27/2019 1:37:53 PM EDT
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I found this article's topic very cool, let alone that she won a $1M prize while finding a lot of stuff.

Her idea of making archaeology more popular should also hopefully bring more History to light.  Even though I am a bit divided about it attracting many opportunists that could break a lot of credibility.

Sarah Parcak Is a Space Archaeologist. Soon You Will Be Too

Sarah Parcak is playing with her food.

To be fair, she’s not so much playing as she is demonstrating, but nonetheless, Parcak is sitting in a fancy New York restaurant and is definitely not eating her $12 bowl of greens. Parcak—a scientist, professor, Egyptologist, anthropologist, and the 2016 winner of the $1 million TED prize—pushes her fork and knife aside, nudges the bowl across the table, and begins her lesson.

During her 18 minutes on stage, Parcak outlined her "wish," or how she plans to spend the $1 million that accompanies the prize. TED, in its idealistic parlance, urges its winners to think big and focus on ideas that can “change the world.” Parcak did exactly that. Asked what she wants to do with the million dollars, she says without hesitation: “I want to find every archaeological site in the world.” Parcak plans to do this by turning everyone—including you—into space archaeologists. Using an idea that's already had success in biology and chemistry, Parcak wants to turn the act of searching for archaeological sites into a game on your phone.

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Archaeology, From 400 Miles Overhead

Space archaeologists don’t actually work in space. Instead, they use satellite imagery, taken by spacecraft whizzing 400 miles above Earth’s surface, to find things buried within the planet's crust. Parcak is among a small but growing number of researchers using this technology to find potential excavation sites. The field has been around since the early 1980s, when NASA hired its first archaeologist, Tom Sever, to exploit new satellite technology. But in the last decade, higher-resolution imagery has triggered a boom in archaeological discoveries. According to TED, Parcak has helped find 17 potential pyramids, upwards of 3,000 settlements, and 1,000 lost tombs—and that's just in Egypt. She has, in her own words, “beat Indy.”

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Link Posted: 3/27/2019 1:49:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 6GUNZ:
Again, I'm only relaying what the sources say. I'm just of the opinion that instead of reading tea leaves and consulting familiar spirits that we should simply listen to what the sources are telling us. I know that's a crazy idea, but our ancient ancestors weren't as stupid as we make them out to be. The fact that the greater body of scientific evidence supports their position is just the icing on the cake.

I also have a biblical worldview. If it comes down to believing the Bible or some hack Egyptologist, I'm going with the Bible every time. If that means believing ancient Atlanteans knew how to build a stargate, I'll buy it. I believe in a man who walked on water and a talking donkey, so it's not like it's that far of a stretch.

Just out of curiosity, what is YOUR view? You obviously don't believe in the official narrative. Are you of the opinion that they were built in the old kingdom?
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:

Sorry I offended your global truth suppression narrative. I'll let you get back to peddling horseshit like an Egyptologist, since, like them, you are the only one capable of explaining what really happened.

Two sides of the same coin.
Again, I'm only relaying what the sources say. I'm just of the opinion that instead of reading tea leaves and consulting familiar spirits that we should simply listen to what the sources are telling us. I know that's a crazy idea, but our ancient ancestors weren't as stupid as we make them out to be. The fact that the greater body of scientific evidence supports their position is just the icing on the cake.

I also have a biblical worldview. If it comes down to believing the Bible or some hack Egyptologist, I'm going with the Bible every time. If that means believing ancient Atlanteans knew how to build a stargate, I'll buy it. I believe in a man who walked on water and a talking donkey, so it's not like it's that far of a stretch.

Just out of curiosity, what is YOUR view? You obviously don't believe in the official narrative. Are you of the opinion that they were built in the old kingdom?
Biblical world view. I just tend to keep my religious views out of it as much as I can, and try my best to explain the happenings on Earth, by things on the Earth.

I am of the opinion that they were built, at the commonly accepted time. I don't think we have the full understanding of the tools, tech, or how. I believe we could have a better understanding, if we could get the Egyptian Gov out of the way.

Now, if you do want to include a Biblical basis, I fail to see an issue with humans building the pyramids in a shorter then currently imaginable timescale.

Based on the Tower of Babel, it would seem that humans, in sufficient numbers and possessing a common language, are pretty damn good at stacking rocks.

Using some crap logic here. We can assume that the Pyramids, while impressive to us, are not something that God has been bothered by. Pyramids are still standing, built during the time period that corresponds to when God was still in the in the active intervention stage of the OT. Granted, I can't presume to know the mind of God, nor do we have a have timescale on the Tower of Babel. There was also the 300ft Great Ziggurat of Babylon. Built around 600 B.C., that Jews most certainly would have known about, considering they were in Babylonian captivity in the same time period.

So, we have religious belief, backed by verified secular evidence that humans are great at building stone structures. Three notable structures, one of which, based on the story, was struck down by God, and consequences visited upon humanity. Ergo, the pyramids and the Great Ziggurat, both of which are part of Jewish and later Christian theological history are less then the Tower of Babel.

If we maintain that humans in ancient times were just as creative and inventive, as some are today, I fail to see how building the pyramids would be an issue. Biblical descriptions of people in the OT, didn't describe them as less capable.

@6GUNZ
Link Posted: 3/27/2019 1:52:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/27/2019 2:12:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:

Biblical world view. I just tend to keep my religious views out of it as much as I can, and try my best to explain the happenings on Earth, by things on the Earth.

I am of the opinion that they were built, at the commonly accepted time. I don't think we have the full understanding of the tools, tech, or how. I believe we could have a better understanding, if we could get the Egyptian Gov out of the way.

Now, if you do want to include a Biblical basis, I fail to see an issue with humans building the pyramids in a shorter then currently imaginable timescale.

Based on the Tower of Babel, it would seem that humans, in sufficient numbers and possessing a common language, are pretty damn good at stacking rocks.

Using some crap logic here. We can assume that the Pyramids, while impressive to us, are not something that God has been bothered by. Pyramids are still standing, built during the time period that corresponds to when God was still in the in the active intervention stage of the OT. Granted, I can't presume to know the mind of God, nor do we have a have timescale on the Tower of Babel. There was also the 300ft Great Ziggurat of Babylon. Built around 600 B.C., that Jews most certainly would have known about, considering they were in Babylonian captivity in the same time period.

So, we have religious belief, backed by verified secular evidence that humans are great at building stone structures. Three notable structures, one of which, based on the story, was struck down by God, and consequences visited upon humanity. Ergo, the pyramids and the Great Ziggurat, both of which are part of Jewish and later Christian theological history are less then the Tower of Babel.

If we maintain that humans in ancient times were just as creative and inventive, as some are today, I fail to see how building the pyramids would be an issue. Biblical descriptions of people in the OT, didn't describe them as less capable.

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A biblical worldview includes more than just the Bible. One thing people fail to recognize about the Bible is that it's just a cliff's notes version of ancient history. It's the bare bones essentials that the Jews wanted to preserve in a perfect state.

But the Bible references history and other history books. And not just the apocrypha. Lots of pagan mythology is referenced in the Bible, as well. The Bible doesn't deny pagan history, it just denies its perspective.

So the sticking point for me is that the apocrypha is very clear that the pyramids were pre flood. And the pagan mythology is clear that they were built for the purpose of contacting their gods, who were trapped in the underworld. Which is an obvious reference to the fallen angels who were imprisoned in Tartarus shortly before the flood.
Link Posted: 3/27/2019 2:45:14 PM EDT
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A biblical worldview includes more than just the Bible. One thing people fail to recognize about the Bible is that it's just a cliff's notes version of ancient history. It's the bare bones essentials that the Jews wanted to preserve in a perfect state.

But the Bible references history and other history books. And not just the apocrypha. Lots of pagan mythology is referenced in the Bible, as well. The Bible doesn't deny pagan history, it just denies its perspective.

So the sticking point for me is that the apocrypha is very clear that the pyramids were pre flood. And the pagan mythology is clear that they were built for the purpose of contacting their gods, who were trapped in the underworld. Which is an obvious reference to the fallen angels who were imprisoned in Tartarus shortly before the flood.
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:

Biblical world view. I just tend to keep my religious views out of it as much as I can, and try my best to explain the happenings on Earth, by things on the Earth.

I am of the opinion that they were built, at the commonly accepted time. I don't think we have the full understanding of the tools, tech, or how. I believe we could have a better understanding, if we could get the Egyptian Gov out of the way.

Now, if you do want to include a Biblical basis, I fail to see an issue with humans building the pyramids in a shorter then currently imaginable timescale.

Based on the Tower of Babel, it would seem that humans, in sufficient numbers and possessing a common language, are pretty damn good at stacking rocks.

Using some crap logic here. We can assume that the Pyramids, while impressive to us, are not something that God has been bothered by. Pyramids are still standing, built during the time period that corresponds to when God was still in the in the active intervention stage of the OT. Granted, I can't presume to know the mind of God, nor do we have a have timescale on the Tower of Babel. There was also the 300ft Great Ziggurat of Babylon. Built around 600 B.C., that Jews most certainly would have known about, considering they were in Babylonian captivity in the same time period.

So, we have religious belief, backed by verified secular evidence that humans are great at building stone structures. Three notable structures, one of which, based on the story, was struck down by God, and consequences visited upon humanity. Ergo, the pyramids and the Great Ziggurat, both of which are part of Jewish and later Christian theological history are less then the Tower of Babel.

If we maintain that humans in ancient times were just as creative and inventive, as some are today, I fail to see how building the pyramids would be an issue. Biblical descriptions of people in the OT, didn't describe them as less capable.

@6GUNZ
A biblical worldview includes more than just the Bible. One thing people fail to recognize about the Bible is that it's just a cliff's notes version of ancient history. It's the bare bones essentials that the Jews wanted to preserve in a perfect state.

But the Bible references history and other history books. And not just the apocrypha. Lots of pagan mythology is referenced in the Bible, as well. The Bible doesn't deny pagan history, it just denies its perspective.

So the sticking point for me is that the apocrypha is very clear that the pyramids were pre flood. And the pagan mythology is clear that they were built for the purpose of contacting their gods, who were trapped in the underworld. Which is an obvious reference to the fallen angels who were imprisoned in Tartarus shortly before the flood.
The apocrypha? You mean the group of books that Judaism hasn't considered cannon since the 5th century BC and the Babylonian Captivity, but the Catholic Church decided 800 years later, that those same books were actually cannon?
Link Posted: 3/27/2019 2:56:43 PM EDT
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Interesting.  More pyramids.  These in Bosnia.

The Pyramids of Bosnia

In 1994, near the city of Visoko, 22 km. from Sarajevo, capital of Bosnia and Herzegovina, the operations were conducted between the Serbs and the Bosnian Muslims. During the shelling of the city residents and heard a strange rumble “vibration” that emanated from Mount Visocica, as if there was an emptiness inside her. century in Bosnia this mountain was shrouded in an aura of mystery and legends. Residents of Visoko for many generations used to decorate the facades of houses and fences neatly planed stones with strange patterns, which are found in the vicinity of the mountain.

But more than talk about the mysterious mountain and did not go until the summer of 2005. in Visoko not come Semir Osmanagich (Semir Osmanagic), an independent researcher, who has spent 15 years studying the pyramids of Latin America. In August 2005, after taking the first ground fur Osmanagich made ​​a daring assumption that Mount Visocica is nothing like a huge pyramid with a height of 220 meters! Pyramids in Bosnia – 2006: Results of the first year of excavation Scale research and excavations in Visoko (Visoko ) began April 14, 2006., when dozens of volunteers began the excavation on Mount Visocica at several points. After a few days under a meter of land was discovered huge man-made stone blocks stacked together.Sensation followed one after the other. On the stone slab steel stumble on all sides Visocica.Aerial view of the evidence of the “geophysical anomalies”: two sides of the mountains were absolutely straight and form equal angles. Photos from satellites and helicopters added new arguments for the existence of the highest and the first pyramid in Europe.
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To the surprise of skeptics, scientists have established, taking into account the local climate, soil at the age of 8-12 thousand years, which covered all the pyramids, where 1 cm of the soil was formed for every 200 years, reaching from 40 cm to 1.5 meters today. But few have learned from laboratory studies that showed a number of millennia, that the pyramids are in a state of neglect, while the date of the erection could be much earlier 10 thousand years BC!

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Check this one also with more info.

After analysis an electromagnetic beam has been detected at the top of the pyramid having 28kHz frequency.
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ETA one more link with many photos of stuff found inside the pyramids and the tunnels beneath them.

https://thebihlover.wordpress.com/2016/04/08/the-mysterious-artefacts-of-the-bosnian-pyramids/
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The apocrypha? You mean the group of books that Judaism hasn't considered cannon since the 5th century BC and the Babylonian Captivity, but the Catholic Church decided 800 years later, that those same books were actually cannon?
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There's a difference between scripture and history books. Just because the apocrypha isn't scripture doesn't mean it's not relevant.

The Bible is concerned with history only insofar as it relates to God's redemptive plan for mankind and prophecy. In a nutshell, the Bible lays out prophecy to show that God is who He says He is, then it tells the reader how to get saved.

The apocrypha is basically the Jewish equivalent of mythology. It's concerned primarily with history, so it goes into much more detail on specific events. It's undoubtedly been corrupted over time, and it wasn't the inspired word of God to begin with. But that doesn't mean that we can't count on it for its basic elements. Maybe some names and dates get moved around, but the basic story should be reliable.

Considering it tells the same basic story as all the other mythologies, there almost has to be a basis in fact. Dozens of different cultures, languages, and religions spread out across thousands of years don't just make up the same story for no reason.
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Link Posted: 3/31/2019 4:03:05 PM EDT
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This video covers a lot so hang on for the ride.

Bizarre CIA Files Released on Lost Ancient Human Civilizations - 'The Adam & Eve Story'
Link Posted: 3/31/2019 4:09:14 PM EDT
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science doesn't lie
Link Posted: 3/31/2019 8:01:16 PM EDT
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This video covers a lot so hang on for the ride.

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I would love to know what's in those other 200 pages. I think the powers that be are still very aware of earth's real history, and are still trying to resurrect the Atlantean age.

I think that's what CERN's real agenda is. They've said themselves their ultimate goal is to contact conscious beings in other dimensions. Right after God imprisoned the Watchers in Tartarus, according to the Emerald Tablets, mankind's first impulse was to try and free them. Now you have to understand that the leaders were their demigod children, who we today refer to as Aryans, or rather the Aryans were their descendants. Those are the blue eyed blond haired supermen referred to in that book.

Why the CIA would need to classify it, I don't know. The only thing I can figure is that the book delved into the government's agenda to suppress ancient history and technology, while simultaneously trying to recover and reverse engineer ancient technology for the purpose of freeing the bad guys from their celestial prison.

It's not gonna be pretty when they succeed. According to revelations, they will succeed in the end, but only when God allows them to. It says that God will give them the keys to Tartarus, and Abaddon will be free to roam the earth. That's almost undoubtedly Semjaza, the original Watcher who organized the whole insurrection in the first place. He was a bad dude, according to the Bible. It describes the antediluvian world as being in a constant state of all out global war, fought by different factions of Watchers and their demigod offspring.

That's also what will bring about the rise of the antichrist. In the past, there has always been a demigod counterpart to Semjaza, who rules in his stead. Before the flood, it was Poseidon (or "The Assyrian" as he's known in the Bible), and after the flood it was Nimrod. These of course are Semjaza's own children. That's why a lot of theologians believe the antichrist will be a descendant of Nimrod. Nimrod himself seems to be a descendant of "The Assyrian" since he is given that title in Genesis. Lots of people think that the antichrist will be of Syrian descent, or from Syria, but I think it's actually saying that he will be the modern day heir to Poseidon's thrown. People, in my opinion, are making the mistake of thinking that Nimrod is associated with Assyria, whereas I think it's the other way around. I think Assyria got its name because Nimrod, the Assyrian, founded it when he established Nineveh.
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Folks with Netflix, take a look at the series "The Pyramid Code".

Quite interesting.  They talk about several other sites besides the Giza Plateau.
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It's been a week what are you guys doing, slowing down or what? The snow's melting and i can see the tops of some stones already.
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We've mostly concluded the same thing as the pros.   We don't know how it was done, but we can see that it was done.

Did see a neat video that reminded me of the fire and ice line of thought, airburst possibly took out SE Asia in the past, it's a video about finding green glass in the Sahara, formed from heat, but no crater, and they look for other potential places.  Trinity test site is covered, but the glass there looks different from the Sahara desert chunks.

It's a science type video more than a theory type video for those wondering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLINtOTAoWI
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Interesting.  More pyramids.  These in Bosnia.

https://www.slavorum.org/the-pyramids-of-bosnia/

Check this one also with more info.

https://www.slavorum.org/10-interesting-facts-about-bosnian-pyramids/

ETA one more link with many photos of stuff found inside the pyramids and the tunnels beneath them.

https://thebihlover.wordpress.com/2016/04/08/the-mysterious-artefacts-of-the-bosnian-pyramids/
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How did I not know this?!
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Originally Posted By Rossi:
Interesting.  More pyramids.  These in Bosnia.

https://www.slavorum.org/the-pyramids-of-bosnia/

Check this one also with more info.

https://www.slavorum.org/10-interesting-facts-about-bosnian-pyramids/

ETA one more link with many photos of stuff found inside the pyramids and the tunnels beneath them.

https://thebihlover.wordpress.com/2016/04/08/the-mysterious-artefacts-of-the-bosnian-pyramids/
How did I not know this?!
Archeologists say they are natural.
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Archeologists say they are natural.
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Originally Posted By fury413rb:
Originally Posted By Rossi:
Interesting.  More pyramids.  These in Bosnia.

https://www.slavorum.org/the-pyramids-of-bosnia/

Check this one also with more info.

https://www.slavorum.org/10-interesting-facts-about-bosnian-pyramids/

ETA one more link with many photos of stuff found inside the pyramids and the tunnels beneath them.

https://thebihlover.wordpress.com/2016/04/08/the-mysterious-artefacts-of-the-bosnian-pyramids/
How did I not know this?!
Archeologists say they are natural.
Archaeologists are dumbasses
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Yeah, those look like some strange natural angles. Im not sure what to think about all the other stuff they say though, a beam of whatever frequency??? Im a bit sceptical of any weird shit that isn't well known and researched.
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Yeah, those look like some strange natural angles.
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Archaeologists are dumbasses
Yeah, those look like some strange natural angles.
Fake science that only follows current ideas. The field never changes
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Whelp, this thread is rapidly achiving Q tinfoil status.
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Yeah, hopefully soon I'll be out back trying to replicate a friggin wall or pyramid or something with some basic tools and a little ingenuity.
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Yeah, hopefully soon I'll be out back trying to replicate a friggin wall or pyramid or something with some basic tools and a little ingenuity.
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Whelp, this thread is rapidly achiving Q tinfoil status.
Yeah, hopefully soon I'll be out back trying to replicate a friggin wall or pyramid or something with some basic tools and a little ingenuity.
You’d better have alien intervention or supertechnological ancient help, because I’m told that moving and shaping rocks is otherwise impossible.  Good luck.
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You’d better have alien intervention or supertechnological ancient help, because I’m told that moving and shaping rocks is otherwise impossible.  Good luck.
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A wise man once said to me when you're good you don't need luck.

I said oh yeah, well I'm Irish too.
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You’d better have alien intervention or supertechnological ancient help, because I’m told that moving and shaping rocks is otherwise impossible.  Good luck.
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Who told you that?
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Even I'm more than a little skeptical about the Bosnian pyramids. The stuff they've found inside that they're calling manmade just looks like ordinary rocks to me.

Now the pyramids in China, those are legit. I would love to see what's inside of those. I find it very strange that no one is wanting to excavate them. You would think the Chinese especially would be wanting to capitalize on them for tourism.
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Interesting video shows many different sites and amazing stone work.

Unexplained Wonders of Ancient Peru
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isnt that the point? look at my avatar
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At least you're doing it right. People seem to think the tinfoil will block the mind control waves but I think its more like wrapping your rabbit ear antenna with tinfoil...it amplifies the signal.

Its a conspiracy that it would block them, thats what they want you to think so you will wear your amplifier hats thus helping the very ones you are trying to overcome!!!!!!!

...And In This World Gone Mad Only Those AS SUPER SMART AS ME WILL BE LEFT ALIVE TO BITTERLY CRY!!!!!!

DAMN YOOOUSSS!!! DAMN YOUS ALL TO HELLLL!!!
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At least you're doing it right. People seem to think the tinfoil will block the mind control waves but I think its more like wrapping your rabbit ear antenna with tinfoil...it amplifies the signal.

Its a conspiracy that it would block them, thats what they want you to think so you will wear your amplifier hats thus helping the very ones you are trying to overcome!!!!!!!

...And In This World Gone Mad Only Those AS SUPER SMART AS ME WILL BE LEFT ALIVE TO BITTERLY CRY!!!!!!

DAMN YOOOUSSS!!! DAMN YOUS ALL TO HELLLL!!!
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isnt that the point? look at my avatar
At least you're doing it right. People seem to think the tinfoil will block the mind control waves but I think its more like wrapping your rabbit ear antenna with tinfoil...it amplifies the signal.

Its a conspiracy that it would block them, thats what they want you to think so you will wear your amplifier hats thus helping the very ones you are trying to overcome!!!!!!!

...And In This World Gone Mad Only Those AS SUPER SMART AS ME WILL BE LEFT ALIVE TO BITTERLY CRY!!!!!!

DAMN YOOOUSSS!!! DAMN YOUS ALL TO HELLLL!!!
Get a neck tether for your specs if you plan to pursue the literary works you never had time to read before the happening.

I watched a documentary narrated by the OG smoking man on the need for tethers for all things in the post apocalyptic world.

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Get a neck tether for your specs if you plan to pursue the literary works you never had time to read before the happening.

I watched a documentary narrated by the OG smoking man on the need for tethers for all things in the post apocalyptic world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAxARJyaTEA
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Twilight zone was great!!  #tetherallthethings
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Originally Posted By headstoner:

Yeah, those look like some strange natural angles. Im not sure what to think about all the other stuff they say though, a beam of whatever frequency??? Im a bit sceptical of any weird shit that isn't well known and researched.
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That stuff look quite unnatural to me...

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Some of the pyramids in Mexico looked like this before excavated.  Based on the websites, all the work there is done by unpaid volunteers.  Therefore, it will take a while to bring things up.

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The problem, as we have seen mostly in Egypt is that the mainstream archaeologists do not like anything that they do not find or conclude by themselves.
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That stuff look quite unnatural to me...

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/36058/Pyramidbase001_JPG-907122.JPG

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/36058/Pyramidbase002_JPG-907123.JPG

Some of the pyramids in Mexico looked like this before excavated.  Based on the websites, all the work there is done by unpaid volunteers.  Therefore, it will take a while to bring things up.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/36058/Pyramidbase003_JPG-907130.JPG

The problem, as we have seen mostly in Egypt is that the mainstream archaeologists do not like anything that they do not find or conclude by themselves.
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Yeah, I'm not convinced those stones formed in that particular pattern and I'm certainly a bit sceptical about the trees in that tunnel growing in that manner.
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Geology and nature can be really weird sometimes.  What can you do?
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Leave it to the experts to tell me what they want me to know I guess
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I found that Netflix series (The Pyramid Code) on YouTube.  Worth watching.  It has some interesting insights.

They go into details not shown in other documentaries and also cover some pre-Egyptian dynasties sites.

These are the sites they cover.

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The authors also make some analogies to other civilizations like the Incas and previous ones.

The series brings up an intriguing theory about why the later dynasties tried to "bury" older civilizations and dynasties.  There are a total of five movies.



Here are the series.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_eHxbp5FEMo1ZQ00tkVbJw
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We've mostly concluded the same thing as the pros.   We don't know how it was done, but we can see that it was done.

Did see a neat video that reminded me of the fire and ice line of thought, airburst possibly took out SE Asia in the past, it's a video about finding green glass in the Sahara, formed from heat, but no crater, and they look for other potential places.  Trinity test site is covered, but the glass there looks different from the Sahara desert chunks.

It's a science type video more than a theory type video for those wondering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLINtOTAoWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLINtOTAoWI
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Originally Posted By headstoner:
It's been a week what are you guys doing, slowing down or what? The snow's melting and i can see the tops of some stones already.
We've mostly concluded the same thing as the pros.   We don't know how it was done, but we can see that it was done.

Did see a neat video that reminded me of the fire and ice line of thought, airburst possibly took out SE Asia in the past, it's a video about finding green glass in the Sahara, formed from heat, but no crater, and they look for other potential places.  Trinity test site is covered, but the glass there looks different from the Sahara desert chunks.

It's a science type video more than a theory type video for those wondering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLINtOTAoWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLINtOTAoWI
There's green glass all along the shore of Lake Superior.  Must've been an airburst.  No way it was lightning or anything like that.
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Not a major architectural or technological discovery.  However, it confirms that mankind did not have a straight evolutionary line and we know very little about it.

An Ancient Human Species Is Discovered in a Philippine Cave

Archaeologists in Luzon Island have turned up the bones of a distantly related species, Homo luzonensis, further expanding the human family tree.

In a cave in the Philippines, scientists have discovered a new branch of the human family tree.

At least 50,000 years ago, an extinct human species lived on what is now the island of Luzon, researchers reported on Wednesday. It’s possible that Homo luzonensis, as they’re calling the species, stood less than three feet tall.

The discovery adds growing complexity to the story of human evolution. It was not a simple march forward, as it once seemed. Instead, our lineage assumed an exuberant burst of strange forms along the way.

Our species, Homo sapiens, now inhabits a comparatively lonely world.

“The more fossils that people pull out of the ground, the more we realize that the variation that was present in the past far exceeds what we see in us today,” said Matthew Tocheri, a paleoanthropologist at Lakehead University in Canada, who was not involved in the new discovery.

Some features were similar to ours, but in other ways Homo floresiensis more closely resembled other hominins (the term scientists use for modern humans and other species in our lineage).

Homo floresiensis was able to make stone tools, for example. But the adults stood only three feet high and had tiny brains. This strange combination led to debates about who, exactly, were their ancestors.

The oldest fossils of hominins, dating back over six million years, have all been found in Africa. For millions of years, hominins were short, small-brained, bipedal apes.

Starting about 2.5 million years ago, one lineage of African hominins began to evolve new traits — a flatter face, bigger brains and a taller body, among other features. These hominins were the first known members of our own genus, Homo.

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Only later, about 1.8 million years ago, do the first fossils of Homo appear outside of Africa. One common species was Homo erectus, a species that spread to East and Southeast Asia. The youngest Homo erectus fossils, discovered in Indonesia, may be just 143,000 years old.

Our own lineage kept evolving in Africa. Homo sapiens emerged about 300,000 years ago, and only 100,000 years ago did we start leaving the continent. By 50,000 years ago, our species had reached Australia. (Some researchers believe that date should be pushed back to 65,000 years ago.)

One hypothesis, then, is that Homo floresiensis evolved from Homo erectus. So here was the question for Philippine archaeologists: Could hominins have reached Luzon as well as Flores?

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We then add this to the latest news about DNA manipulation.

Chinese scientists have put human brain genes in monkeys—and yes, they may be smarter

uman intelligence is one of evolution’s most consequential inventions. It is the result of a sprint that started millions of years ago, leading to ever bigger brains and new abilities. Eventually, humans stood upright, took up the plow, and created civilization, while our primate cousins stayed in the trees.

Now scientists in southern China report that they’ve tried to narrow the evolutionary gap, creating several transgenic macaque monkeys with extra copies of a human gene suspected of playing a role in shaping human intelligence.

“This was the first attempt to understand the evolution of human cognition using a transgenic monkey model,” says Bing Su, the geneticist at the Kunming Institute of Zoology who led the effort.

According to their findings, the modified monkeys did better on a memory test involving colors and block pictures, and their brains also took longer to develop—as those of human children do. There wasn’t a difference in brain size.

The experiments, described on March 27 in a Beijing journal, National Science Review, and first reported by Chinese media, remain far from pinpointing the secrets of the human mind or leading to an uprising of brainy primates.

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Now, you can fit your tinfoil hat the best way you see fit.  
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There's green glass all along the shore of Lake Superior.  Must've been an airburst.  No way it was lightning or anything like that.
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So you've already done the comparative isotopic and crystallographic analysis of said glass?  Do share your results with the class, please.
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