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Posted: 5/27/2021 8:45:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pistol at 12 why not rifles   I’ve never seen a pistol light at 12, all at 6. Good luck mounting that and then finding a holster. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 8:46:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You guys with inforce WML’s, how they holding up. I’ve seen mixed reviews. They seem good to go these days? I used one deployed for years, held up fine. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 8:46:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve never seen a pistol light at 12, all at 6. Good luck mounting that and then finding a holster. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pistol at 12 why not rifles I’ve never seen a pistol light at 12, all at 6. Good luck mounting that and then finding a holster. Maybe he meant AR pistols? |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 8:46:41 AM EDT
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FSB is in the way for me.
My guess is people aren’t used to the look or placement because of the FSB even on rifles that don’t have one. Also c clamp. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 8:47:43 AM EDT
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Because thats where my Peq15 is on my rifle
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Posted: 5/27/2021 8:51:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Must be daylight savings time... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pistol at 12 why not rifles Must be daylight savings time... I'm also curious to see this pistol with rail on the slide |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 8:55:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm also curious to see this pistol with rail on the slide Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Pistol at 12 why not rifles Must be daylight savings time... I'm also curious to see this pistol with rail on the slide Not technically on the slide, but still at 12  
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Posted: 5/27/2021 9:06:39 AM EDT
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 I did it for a while. Unconventional, but it works. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 9:11:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not technically on the slide, but still at 12 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58021/SVimg-DE50TU__27080_1515511756-1957010.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Pistol at 12 why not rifles Must be daylight savings time... I'm also curious to see this pistol with rail on the slide Not technically on the slide, but still at 12 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58021/SVimg-DE50TU__27080_1515511756-1957010.jpg DAMN. ya got me |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 9:13:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/27/2021 9:13:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/27/2021 9:17:03 AM EDT
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Arisaka's Mossie Mount is perfect for adding a X300 on the FSB. Added Phlster's ARC switches to get better purchase on the activation nubs.
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Posted: 5/27/2021 9:25:03 AM EDT
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Threw this together as a spare... runs great.
Aimpoint Pro in LaRue mount, Surefire X300U, Centurion Arms trigger, Magpul sling and stock, rattle can finish. BCM CHF ELW upper.... light and simple.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 9:25:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same here. I want to upgrade to a gen 2. I have a gen 2 white/IR, so far it has been good to go. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 9:27:12 AM EDT
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I run at 6 o'clock and I catch a lot of shit for it.
I tried running at 12 but the heat from the suppressor would cause the SF X300U to malfunction. So it stays at 6. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 9:27:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ergonomically they are the best WML I have ever used. Never had an issue with the two I have, but am hesitant to put them on my serious stuff because of all the bad press i've read. Mine crapped out with very little use. Started blinking randomly when I hit the switch. Then it went completely dead. I contacted Inforce and they had me a new one super quick. I never took the new one out of the package, I sold it here in the EE. Great ergonomics, but I just don’t trust it. I switched to a TLR-1 and run it at 12o’clock. I like it but I wish it had a lockout switch like the WML did. Edited to add pic: 
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Posted: 5/27/2021 10:12:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pistol at 12 why not rifles Technically, pistol is usually at 6 |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 10:13:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not technically on the slide, but still at 12 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58021/SVimg-DE50TU__27080_1515511756-1957010.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Pistol at 12 why not rifles Must be daylight savings time... I'm also curious to see this pistol with rail on the slide Not technically on the slide, but still at 12 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58021/SVimg-DE50TU__27080_1515511756-1957010.jpg 
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Posted: 5/27/2021 10:21:04 AM EDT
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I have a couple set up like that.
Generally the reason I don't is because the light I want to use doesn't fit there or isn't switched in a way that makes it useful. But the rifles with TLRs or Inforces have them mounted at 12. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 10:21:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/27/2021 10:22:28 AM EDT
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Usually because they are pistol based lights and not quite on the level of rifle lights. Sure they work but the x300 is no m600 as an example.
Also blocking optics but I like Unity mounts making that point moot |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 10:25:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You guys with inforce WML’s, how they holding up. I’ve seen mixed reviews. They seem good to go these days? I have one on both of my “social” rifles. Had both for several years, shot a bunch of rounds, banged around both guns quite a bit. They both work fine for me. As to where they’re placed, the switch is under where my thumb sits when I take my natural grip on the rifle. Why would I put it anywhere else?  
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Posted: 5/27/2021 10:37:18 AM EDT
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I like it to hang to the side, just like the weapon in my pants does.
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Posted: 5/27/2021 10:42:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/27/2021 10:43:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like it to hang to the side, just like the weapon in my pants does. I completely understand why you would need a light for that. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 10:47:25 AM EDT
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Gay
9, 3, or even 6 is more better |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 10:55:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Surefire X300 sits at 12 o'clock on my 11.5 BCM. I have several mounted this way with a MBUS Pro sitting directly behind. Works great. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 10:58:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe XC-1 is weak as a pistol light, on a carbine it's abysmal. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 11:28:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Usually because they are pistol based lights and not quite on the level of rifle lights. Sure they work but the x300 is no m600 as an example. Also blocking optics but I like Unity mounts making that point moot I could be wrong, but I thought the x300 Ultra had the same lumen and candela as the 600. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 11:29:58 AM EDT
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I used to love the 12 position for my light. Then I did a night shoot with a suppressor. The smoke coming out of the suppressor reflected the light back into my face. Completely unusable.
I moved it to 6 after that. That has downsides as well though. No perfect answer it seems. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 11:31:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/27/2021 11:31:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No perfect answer it seems. Of course there is - Nods. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 12:22:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No light at all. I don't wish to broadcast my position. Don't listen to fools - NODs rule.  "I don't need a screwdriver, because I already have this hammer." Having NODs is great but it also means you need a two mode light like the X300V. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 12:30:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's the new coolness for the Tactical Timmy types.  Jokes aside it works well with a light/laser combo on top of a Mossberg Shockwave. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/88145/DSCN0252__2__JPG-1514233.JPG That is one scary lookin gun. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 12:36:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "I don't need a screwdriver, because I already have this hammer.". Don't resort to false equivalents. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 2:29:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Go out and shoot around/through barricades and stuff preferably with a suppressor in the dark and report back. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why not 6 o’clock? That’s the best place of all. But internets Tier 1 operators won’t go for it so it must be ignored. Mines on the right side (3 o’clock?) since it’s an M951 on a KAC RAS on a Block 1 clone so no room except the sides. Go out and shoot around/through barricades and stuff preferably with a suppressor in the dark and report back. I have (not with a suppressor) plenty of times over many years, when I used a light at 6 o'clock, with zero problems. GD only knows what's edgy or in fad. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 3:05:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't resort to false equivalents. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "I don't need a screwdriver, because I already have this hammer.". Don't resort to false equivalents. They are different tools for different situations. Sure, you can sort of pound nails with the butt of your screwdriver but the hammer works much better. NODs are great and certainly have their place but they are not a wholesale replacement for WMLs. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 3:30:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have (not with a suppressor) plenty of times over many years, when I used a light at 6 o'clock, with zero problems. GD only knows what's edgy or in fad. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why not 6 o’clock? That’s the best place of all. But internets Tier 1 operators won’t go for it so it must be ignored. Mines on the right side (3 o’clock?) since it’s an M951 on a KAC RAS on a Block 1 clone so no room except the sides. Go out and shoot around/through barricades and stuff preferably with a suppressor in the dark and report back. I have (not with a suppressor) plenty of times over many years, when I used a light at 6 o'clock, with zero problems. GD only knows what's edgy or in fad. Lol. No. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 3:39:44 PM EDT
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Obstructed optics or sights
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Posted: 5/27/2021 4:11:14 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You guys with inforce WML’s, how they holding up. I’ve seen mixed reviews. They seem good to go these days? I’ve broken TLRs, WMLs, and X300Vs. WML has held up as good as the others. TLR is the worst. That damn battery cap. Fix that and they’d be tough. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 4:12:55 PM EDT
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If you have a good light it shouldn't matter what o'clock you got it.
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