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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:40:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Put up or shut up. Post a video of you burning your check or gtfo. Tell me if I'm wrong but if they send you a check and you burn it wouldn't you still have to declare it as income and pay taxes on it? You got nothing and still have to pay, double whammy! LOL PS: really asking as I have no clue. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:41:19 AM EDT
[#2]
I'll take it and use it to pay my taxes.
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:42:06 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Since it is a one time payout sent out by the IRS based on taxes paid I see it as a refund not a welfare handout. You have to sign up for welfare to get welfare. I've never signed up for welfare and never taken any yet. FIFY 
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:43:31 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Tell me if I'm wrong but if they send you a check and you burn it wouldn't you still have to declare it as income and pay taxes on it? You got nothing and still have to pay, double whammy! LOL PS: really asking as I have no clue. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Put up or shut up. Post a video of you burning your check or gtfo. Tell me if I'm wrong but if they send you a check and you burn it wouldn't you still have to declare it as income and pay taxes on it? You got nothing and still have to pay, double whammy! LOL PS: really asking as I have no clue. Why would you declare income you never received? Keep the video and show it to the IRS should you ever get audited. Problem solved. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:45:17 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would you declare income you never received? Keep the video and show it to the IRS should you ever get audited. Problem solved. Good point..."what check, never got it"???? |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:45:58 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you consider your time spent on a message board to be valuable instead of inherently wasteful and justify spending real money on it as some form of investment then I can't tell you anything you'd understand. Carry on. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Clearly, you have no experience with the green button. But maybe your time is so cheap that it doesn't matter. For me, my time is too valuable to NOT have the green button. But you do you. If you consider your time spent on a message board to be valuable instead of inherently wasteful and justify spending real money on it as some form of investment then I can't tell you anything you'd understand. Carry on. This place is real life to some members. ??. Imagine if GD was all you had. How sad. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:46:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is really simple. We were already running a trillion dollar FY deficit before the virus. This ‘refund’ most Americans will receive is just more deficit spending/money printing by our socialist government in an attempt to save the economy. This isn’t Your money that you paid in. 
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:46:27 AM EDT
[#8]
LOL at all the arfcom millionaires thinking that people making 50-100K are not paying any taxes.
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:47:50 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So taxation isn't theft? Should we all sacrifice our whole paycheck to help get the country out of debt? You're complaining like we're discussing whether or not we're going to vote for it. The decision wasn't made by us. For the record, I don't think I get any, but I think its really dumb to criticize people for getting their hard earned money returned to them, especially considering so many people here believe it should have never been taken from them in the first place. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is really simple. We were already running a trillion dollar FY deficit before the virus. This ‘refund’ most Americans will receive is just more deficit spending/money printing by our socialist government in an attempt to save the economy. This isn’t Your money that you paid in. So taxation isn't theft? Should we all sacrifice our whole paycheck to help get the country out of debt? You're complaining like we're discussing whether or not we're going to vote for it. The decision wasn't made by us. For the record, I don't think I get any, but I think its really dumb to criticize people for getting their hard earned money returned to them, especially considering so many people here believe it should have never been taken from them in the first place. We have a representative Government. You did vote for it if you voted for any of these assholes. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:48:46 AM EDT
[#10]
We make too much to qualify. I don't need it. This is a rare instance in which I am OK with using Tax Dollars to help out people during tuff times.
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:48:54 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Put up or shut up. Post a video of you burning your check or gtfo. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is really simple. We were already running a trillion dollar FY deficit before the virus. This ‘refund’ most Americans will receive is just more deficit spending/money printing by our socialist government in an attempt to save the economy. This isn’t Your money that you paid in. Put up or shut up. Post a video of you burning your check or gtfo. Ok bernie bro... Who says I’m going to get a check  |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:49:05 AM EDT
[#12]
Going straight into the savings account
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:49:53 AM EDT
[#13]
If I got one and I don't think I will I would just apply it towards my quarterly tax payment so in a sense I'd be giving it back. As far as I'm concerned it's just them giving my money back anyway. I don't like to give them one penny more than I have to.
I haven't seen what, if anything passed or what the means testing on it is. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:51:56 AM EDT
[#14]
No I won't refuse the check. I have principles but I am not stupid, I will keep it on ice until they raise my taxes to pay for all this shit, then I will use it to pay said tax increase.
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:52:46 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok bernie bro... Who says I’m going to get a check Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This is really simple. We were already running a trillion dollar FY deficit before the virus. This ‘refund’ most Americans will receive is just more deficit spending/money printing by our socialist government in an attempt to save the economy. This isn’t Your money that you paid in. Put up or shut up. Post a video of you burning your check or gtfo. Ok bernie bro... Who says I’m going to get a check How am I a Bernie Bro? Please elaborate. Ahhhh now you are going to suddenly pretend you aren't getting a check after never mentioning that in any of the 100 stimulus threads you shit post in. I knew that would be the new angle from the Share_Blue crowd when they were called on their hypocrisy. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:52:54 AM EDT
[#16]
As much as I pay in taxes, and as much ridiculous spending government does with it. I’ll take a small refund back.
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:57:39 AM EDT
[#17]
If I get a check every nickle will go to paying other people to do their job or recovering lost money, if I have to float my renters in the coming days.
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:58:43 AM EDT
[#18]
Not eligible. I'll be one of the lucky few having my wealth redistributed.
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:58:53 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I made 600k last year. I get sba loans, rest of america gets a handout. I need to read up on those. If the interest is lower than I'm currently paying on balances and I qualify I'll be taking one out to pay down my current balances at a lower rate. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:59:17 AM EDT
[#20]
I'm opposed on principle, but favorable in practice.
Return a portion of my taxes? I'm extremely worried the funds will arrive just prior to the market bottoming, and I'll cash the check and invest every nickel in VEXAX, one of Vanguards mid and small cap admiral index funds. I know me, I've seen me do it. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:59:27 AM EDT
[#21]
nope, I want my damn money back
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:00:09 PM EDT
[#22]
I am putting 100% of my check to a Geissele Super Duty rifle
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:00:26 PM EDT
[#23]
I wish I could refuse to give you more of my money.
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:01:10 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish I could refuse to give you more of my money. WORD! |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:03:01 PM EDT
[#25]
hell no i wont refuse it. I am losing my ass right now and need some relief.
also there are a heck of a lot of people much worse off than me who are getting very desperate. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:03:51 PM EDT
[#26]
You can only get screwed over so many times to start thinking, what principles?
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:05:16 PM EDT
[#27]
No.
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:06:46 PM EDT
[#28]
Taking what they give, if anything...what difference at this point does it make !
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:08:17 PM EDT
[#29]
If going off 2018 taxes, my wife and I should qualify. While I work for an employer, she/we own a small business and can use every dime the gov stole from us back.
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:11:32 PM EDT
[#30]
The .gov is going to tax me to pay for it anyway, right?
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:12:23 PM EDT
[#31]
We are all going to have to pay it back, with interest. It's just a loan you didn't apply for. Use it or don't. your still going to have to pay it back. It's not free or a hand out. It's a loan
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:14:19 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Tell me if I'm wrong but if they send you a check and you burn it wouldn't you still have to declare it as income and pay taxes on it? You got nothing and still have to pay, double whammy! LOL PS: really asking as I have no clue. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Put up or shut up. Post a video of you burning your check or gtfo. Tell me if I'm wrong but if they send you a check and you burn it wouldn't you still have to declare it as income and pay taxes on it? You got nothing and still have to pay, double whammy! LOL PS: really asking as I have no clue. Tell them you want prove of you cashing it. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:14:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:16:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Tell them you want prove of you cashing it. I like you style but were still going to pay for it one way or another. 
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:16:01 PM EDT
[#35]
For tax payers, it's just a return of your own money. It's not a welfare payment.
Just like in 2009. And since they are income testing it based on 2018 tax returns, we won't get it. Even though I've been unemployed since January. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:17:02 PM EDT
[#36]
If they go off the 2018 taxes I won't get it, because I was still working at Charter making low 6 figures, also I had to cash out my 401K that year and made it look like I made high 6 figures, when I did not.
IF by chance I do get a check, I plan to cash it and save it. I will do my best not to spend any of it. I'll wait till the following year and see if they tax it, if they do I'll pay that back and use the rest on paying down debts or buying stocks. I don't see any better options. I figure as much as I've paid in over the last 20 years in taxes, SS and other BS, this is just them dropping a couple of crumbs and giving me a few cents of that back. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:19:08 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How is it hypocrisy? I don't see anyone getting a check saying it's fucked up, they're making all kinds of excuses why they "deserve" it. As usually many, including you on this board fail to understand why this is yet another blow to the nation our founding fathers built and envisioned. What the few people who understand what it means to be an originalist is saying is that this is yet another sign of how fucked up our tax system is and its use to cover up government fuckups and bribe demographics by stealing from others. It's not about whether you cash the fucking thing or whether its less than you paid in taxes, and that's why this scheme works. Because too many can't see past the troff when they're being allowed to eat from it. It's the same attitude out of ghetto people on welfare, the system is just fine when it is benefiting me, why change it. It matters fuck all if you're paying taxes or not. Translate this belief into a plan of action. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:20:05 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For tax payers, it's just a return of your own money. It's not a welfare payment. Just like in 2009. And since they are income testing it based on 2018 tax returns, we won't get it. Even though I've been unemployed since January. Excellent point. I wonder why they can't at least go by 2019 taxes already completed as well? Or at least allow people to file for it that can prove circumstances like yourself? What a cluster fudge no matter how you look at it. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:20:45 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Which means you are paying even less into the pot than you already where while a certain percentage of your countrymen are paying yet even more in than their already disproportionate share. If I pay $20,000 a year in taxes because I am "a big earner" and you pay $10,000 because you're "a low earner" then I am already paying more into the system you are despite both of us being able to use it the same, I am already covering a disproportionate share. Then the Gov gives you back $2000 more meaning you only paid $8000 in that year I am still paying $20,000 in meaning my disproportionate amount INCREASES. "hurrr durr it's my money back" no, you're already not paying your fair share compared to others. The fuck is wrong with so many on this board that don't understand how progressive taxation is already unfair? You guys DO understand this is very much a liberal/leftist scheme right? You're buying into the class warfare shit with this? The whole tax system is fucked. I agree people who earn more do end up with disproportionate share and too much in the way of breaks and free shit goes to lazy, useless people. That doesn't change the fact about what good can happen with the money is likely more if it's out getting spent by people, rather than being wasted by government. So don't be thinkin I am going to feel particularly bad for you if you don't qualify, that's a sign of your success, yet you managed to feel bad and jealous about it. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:21:04 PM EDT
[#40]
Keeping it. It's my fucking money anyway. Gibs me dat back.
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:21:24 PM EDT
[#41]
There’s a lot of folks in this thread virtue signaling about how those of us poors who are getting a check are leaches and FSA, oddly a large portion of them aren’t sporting an avatar.
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:21:38 PM EDT
[#42]
You all still believe you're getting a large check?
2 trillion to adult citizens approx $2000 per citizen x 327 million citizens in ???? and $500 per child x 74 million (unless that has changed). Rough estimate is $750 billion of that will be spent and thats being generous. That is assuming that every single adult in the country who is a citizen gets $2000 and every child gets $500. Where does the other $1.25 trillion go, hmm? |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:23:18 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You all still believe you're getting a large check? 2 trillion to adult citizens approx $2000 per citizen x 327 million citizens in and $500 per child x 74 million (unless that has changed). Rough estimate is $750 billion of that will be spent and thats being generous. That is assuming that every single adult in the country who is a citizen gets $2000 and every child gets $500. Where does the other $1.25 trillion go, hmm? NPR and diversity auditors for corporations. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:24:02 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There’s a lot of folks in this thread virtue signaling about how those of us poors who are getting a check are leaches and FSA, oddly a large portion of them aren’t sporting an avatar. And I guess they won't be voting for Trump either because this money comes with his blessings. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:24:22 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This place has become such a shitty garbage pit. Fuck everyone. 
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:25:50 PM EDT
[#46]
I always forget that everyone on arfcom makes $500k a year
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:26:36 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryLOL. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:27:09 PM EDT
[#48]
If I get it my plan is to dump it back into local community
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:27:24 PM EDT
[#49]
For every new dollar created out of thin air, your money becomes less valuable. Think of it as an inflation check and cash it.
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:28:00 PM EDT
[#50]
If I do get one bills and probably invest some into ETH.
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