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Posted: 2/15/2023 12:39:49 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. I couldn't stand that cocksucker. The black helmsman? |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 12:41:19 PM EDT
[#2]
TNG - Luwaxana Troi
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Posted: 2/15/2023 12:42:00 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You think Alexander was worse than Wunderkind Wesley? This. That little Weasel Wesley Crusher was an insufferable cunt on the show and he turned into a more insufferabler Liberal cunt in real life. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 12:42:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I skip the Alexander episodes when I am watching it. They are just crap. Lwaxana Troi is even worse yet though. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 12:46:47 PM EDT
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Guinan was intermittently annoying. In some episodes, she was fine or even occasionally good. In more than a few, she was an irritant.
One thing about her that was not great was that she stole some of Troi’s thunder, and Troi didn’t always have that much to spare, as the writers didn’t always seem to come up with enough for her to do. The series as a whole might have been better if Troi and Guinan had both been conceived of initially and melded into one character. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 12:52:10 PM EDT
[#6]
TOS- Nurse Chapel.
I mean, she was a placeholder. Meh. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 12:54:53 PM EDT
[#7]
Everybody knows it's Wesley
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Posted: 2/15/2023 12:55:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: TOS- Nurse Chapel. I mean, she was a placeholder. Meh. Well she was Gene Roddenberry’s wife, so…. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 12:57:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Space hippies and Tribbles. Not a recurring character, but yeah, the space hippies were a whole other level of suck. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 12:58:07 PM EDT
[#10]
TNG - Entire cast, production crew, writers and directors
DS9 - Entire cast, production crew, writers and directors Voyager - Entire cast, production crew, writers and directors Enterprise - Entire cast, production crew, writers and directors Orville -Entire cast, production crew, writers and directors |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 12:59:36 PM EDT
[#11]
Deeana Troi's mom was bad but Alexander put the whore in horrible.
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:03:12 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Captain Kirk Captain Picard Spock  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:05:32 PM EDT
[#13]
TNG- Dr. Katherine Pulaski, nails on the chalkboard in every scene. Although she was a super hot in TOS.
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:12:18 PM EDT
[#14]
TOS -none of the regular crew
TNG- Alexander, AKA Eddie Munster. Luwaxana redeemed herself in the Maj. Winchester episode. Voyager - Janeway, AKA the helium breather. DS9 - any of the Bajoran cult leaders, especially nurse Ratchett. Enterprise - Archer, Bacula was only good in Quantum Leap. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:12:47 PM EDT
[#15]
TOS: Nobody stands out as the worst character to me. Maybe Chekov. But I don't hate him.
TNG: Wesley for sure, followed by Troi. Neither character should ever have existed. Wesley contributes nothing believable, and Troi contributes nothing at all. I'd gladly trade them both out to keep Tasha in the show. DS9: Nothing obvious for me. That cast was basically flawless IMO. VOY: Neelix. Neelix. Neelix. Even worse is how many times they killed him but saved him, or revealed it wasn't actually him. Good God please just kill him, kill him for real, and leave him dead, and quit playing with me! Followed by Kes, who was just a completely worthless character, but thankfully they did write her out. I don't really remember Enterprise and I've never seen the newer shows. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:35:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Guinan was intermittently annoying. In some episodes, she was fine or even occasionally good. In more than a few, she was an irritant. One thing about her that was not great was that she stole some of Troi’s thunder, and Troi didn’t always have that much to spare, as the writers didn’t always seem to come up with enough for her to do. The series as a whole might have been better if Troi and Guinan had both been conceived of initially and melded into one character. Read an interview with Roddenberry where he said his initial plan for Troi was just to have her wander around half naked, offering emotional support. But in negotiations with the studio to get TNG off the ground, he had to find more for her to do. I'm really glad he didn't do that with Guinan. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:52:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/16/2023 3:34:32 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Read an interview with Roddenberry where he said his initial plan for Troi was just to have her wander around half naked, offering emotional support. But in negotiations with the studio to get TNG off the ground, he had to find more for her to do. I'm really glad he didn't do that with Guinan. Roddenberry was a notorious perv.
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Posted: 2/16/2023 3:43:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The black helmsman? Yep. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 3:52:39 PM EDT
[#20]
Alexander AND Wesley.
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Posted: 2/16/2023 3:55:31 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: TNG: Wesley DS9: Jake Sisko VOY: Neelix ENT: Trip DISC: Adira (the LGBTQWTFBBQ with imaginary friend) SNW: Ortegas I don't particularly hate anyone in TOS that I can think of. Haven't watched the new animated ones Trip was the BEST character on Enterprise. For worst it's a toss up of EVERYONE ELSE. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 3:59:55 PM EDT
[#22]
I always felt Sulu character had a lousy actor (George Takei), so his character was the weakest, IMHO.
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Posted: 2/16/2023 4:10:08 PM EDT
[#23]
TNG: Dr. Polaski
The only reason I list her over Alexander is she was in so many episodes. And yes, I know the actress was in TOS. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 4:12:30 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Jake Sisco was in "The Visitor" the best episode of all treks so that kind of lets him off the hook. It was only good because of Tony Todd. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 4:21:02 PM EDT
[#25]
TNG:
Wesley Guinan Luwaxana troi O'Brien And Keiko Alexander Doc pulaski Barclay the scared squirrel. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 4:22:32 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Janeway was a war criminal but she was right for killing Tuvix Tuvik was ugly for sure, but I think That epsiode proved that Janeway was a psychopath that had a god complex over her crew. When the transporter fused the two characters, the new character Tuvix was created and had an individual persona and had self awareness and did not want to die. The fact that the rest of the crew went along with it and the Doctor was the only one that said, screw this noise, I wont do it. say a lot about humanity. They showed that they were ok with killing innocents to get back what they lost. If Picard was there, he would have given them all a stern lecture on seeking out new life. I think any of the other main captains of the series would have let Tuvix live. It was an amazing plot to think about morality that was hamstrung by using two characters they weren't ready to get rid of. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 4:28:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: TNG- Dr. Katherine Pulaski, nails on the chalkboard in every scene. Although she was a super hot in TOS. I think Pulaski was one of the better characters. They started her off as a McCoy clone, but she developed and actually had something to do. I think in her one season she was more used than Dr. Crusher across 6 season and 4 movies. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 4:37:55 PM EDT
[#28]
Lt. Barclay is the worst. From all the series combined.
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Posted: 2/16/2023 4:44:35 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lt. Barclay is the worst. From all the series combined. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTLUPxKAzjK4a6NgIqeqZdIcfM1n6KPVGuC0g&usqp=CAU Agree 100% |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 4:52:01 PM EDT
[#30]
I liked Guinan, although I didn’t at first because of what I perceived to be her slightly superior attitude. As the show went on I realized she was offering something unique. While most of the scientists and engineers around her were approaching problems (cultural problems, not technical problems) logically or sequentially, she had a bigger, more abstract picture. She could identify a solution; that is, here’s where we are and here’s where we need to be (situationally), without necessarily knowing how to accomplish it. That’s where the logical people would take over. I guess she had what I would call wisdom, she could see through the confusion and provide clarifying insight.
The writers had the good sense or good taste (or luck) to not over use her for this. Unlike, for example, Data, who it seemed to me saved the day with some pseudo tech every other episode. But, of course, it’s all juvenile compared to Firefly. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 5:00:06 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lt. Barclay is the worst. From all the series combined. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTLUPxKAzjK4a6NgIqeqZdIcfM1n6KPVGuC0g&usqp=CAU His character has the most acting range. He's pretty impressive I think. One moment he's a timid, bumbling guy, and the next he's passionately sword fighting. He plays a role on Voyager too. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 5:27:01 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I liked Guinan, although I didn't at first because of what I perceived to be her slightly superior attitude. As the show went on I realized she was offering something unique. While most of the scientists and engineers around her were approaching problems logically or sequentially, she had a bigger, more abstract picture. She could identify a solution; that is, here's where we are and here's where we need to be (situationally), without knowing exactly how to accomplish it. That's where the logical people would take over. I guess she had what I would call wisdom, she could see through the confusion and provide clarifying insight. The writers had the good sense or good taste (or luck) to not over use her for this. Unlike, for example, Data, who it seemed to me saved the day with some pseudo tech every other episode. Reverse the polarity or use a tachyon beam! But, of course, it's all juvenile compared to Firefly. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 5:28:12 PM EDT
[#33]
Mayweather was by far the worst character on ENT. Hoshi a close second.
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Posted: 2/16/2023 6:21:09 PM EDT
[#34]
IDK.
I realize it’s heresy to criticize any of TOS cast, but in hindsight Chekhov’s Russian shtick was over-the-top even in the early 70s. TNG cast drove me nuts because almost all of them were Boy Scout do-gooders. Riker was the only one with some good old toxic masculinity. Never could warm up to DS9. Voyager either. Loved Enterprise until they got into that extended storyline about the war. These shows were always better to me with single-episode story arcs. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 8:14:18 PM EDT
[#35]
TNG? Alexander?
Fucking Wesley Crusher was the worst. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 9:14:36 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: JarJar Binks had no business in the franchise. This, wasn’t he on DS9? |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 9:18:09 PM EDT
[#37]
Literally every Admiral not named Kirk
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Posted: 2/16/2023 9:21:23 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You think Alexander was worse than Wunderkind Wesley? DS9? Yeah, I guess I could agree with Jake Sisko. Eh... Julian Bashir was insufferable the first couple of seasons. Voyager... duh. Neelix. Enterprise. Doctor Phlox, hands down. Alexander and Wesley were annoying but some of their episodes were good. Zero episodes with Keiko were good. I nominate her. Enterprise - T'Pol Maybe that's not the actress or the writer's fault. When you have a female character and remove her emotions, it's just....I don't know. Very very weird to me. Male Vulcans are bad enough. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 9:24:15 PM EDT
[#39]
TNG: That little twat wesley and Q
DS9: the retard bartender played by goldberg. Voyager: i dont remember, but 7 of 9 was hot. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 9:24:40 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: IDK. I realize it’s heresy to criticize any of TOS cast, but in hindsight Chekhov’s Russian shtick was over-the-top even in the early 70s. TNG cast drove me nuts because almost all of them were Boy Scout do-gooders. Riker was the only one with some good old toxic masculinity. Never could warm up to DS9. Voyager either. Loved Enterprise until they got into that extended storyline about the war. These shows were always better to me with single-episode story arcs. The writers of TOS will admit they brought the Chekhov character on because they needed a counter to Davy Jones of the Monkees to bring in the youths of the day. It was all about the "cute guy and the haircut." |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 9:25:15 PM EDT
[#41]
Voyager: Kes. I used to commute with a bunch of Star Trek fans and everyone was glad when she was written off the series.
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Posted: 2/16/2023 9:31:45 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The writers of TOS will admit they brought the Chekhov character on because they needed a counter to Davy Jones of the Monkees to bring in the youths of the day. It was all about the "cute guy and the haircut." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: IDK. I realize it’s heresy to criticize any of TOS cast, but in hindsight Chekhov’s Russian shtick was over-the-top even in the early 70s. TNG cast drove me nuts because almost all of them were Boy Scout do-gooders. Riker was the only one with some good old toxic masculinity. Never could warm up to DS9. Voyager either. Loved Enterprise until they got into that extended storyline about the war. These shows were always better to me with single-episode story arcs. The writers of TOS will admit they brought the Chekhov character on because they needed a counter to Davy Jones of the Monkees to bring in the youths of the day. It was all about the "cute guy and the haircut." In the book by David Gerrold on his time on the staff, he said that Checkov was added in direct response to an article pointing out that the Russians had a strong space program but there was no Russian on the crew. He had to rewrite his parts for Sulu to Checkov because Takai was making The Green Berets. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 9:41:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In the book by David Gerrold on his time on the staff, he said that Checkov was added in direct response to an article pointing out that the Russians had a strong space program but there was no Russian on the crew. He had to rewrite his parts for Sulu to Checkov because Takai was making The Green Berets. I've seen that too over the years. Today that character would have to be from China and possibly one from India. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 9:44:13 PM EDT
[#44]
DS-9 Morn
He just wouldnt shut up. 
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Posted: 2/16/2023 10:00:26 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Picard is not worthy to be a pimple on Kirk's ass. I agree Gandof couldn't hold a candle to Dr. Lazarus |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 10:30:41 PM EDT
[#46]
Wesley is the only one I remember hating at the time, all the time.
Others were irritating later on. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 10:38:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/16/2023 10:40:01 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Neelix? I’d watch a Neelix series compared to how much I detested the Janeway character. What were they thinking with that casting and writing. I was excited for new ST show, loved the ship design and most of the characters at least piqued my interest. But Janeway was reprehensible. Quote HistoryQuoted: Neelix? I’d watch a Neelix series compared to how much I detested the Janeway character. What were they thinking with that casting and writing. I was excited for new ST show, loved the ship design and most of the characters at least piqued my interest. But Janeway was reprehensible. Yeah but big tits go a long way...And then there was Remo Williams.....  TNG - Luwaxana Troi Again big tits... |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 11:24:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lt. Barclay is the worst. From all the series combined. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTLUPxKAzjK4a6NgIqeqZdIcfM1n6KPVGuC0g&usqp=CAU Disagree. Barclay had his issues but overall was an excellent asset. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 11:26:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Voyager: Kes. I used to commute with a bunch of Star Trek fans and everyone was glad when she was written off the series. They knew they were going to drop someone when Seven was coming on-board, but they were originally leaning toward dropping Harry Kim. But then TV Guide came out with some kind of 50 or 100 most handsome actors list, and Garret Wang was on it. They decided they couldn't cut him right after the positive press. |
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