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Posted: 4/24/2018 6:27:44 PM EDT

looking at DD uppers. the LW vs gov profile. I personally don't see why they're still so much more popular than LW profiles in the civilian world

pole incoming

Posted: 4/24/2018 6:29:22 PM EDT

[#1]

"gov't profile" perfectly reflects how much the government can fuck up anything

Posted: 4/24/2018 6:29:52 PM EDT

[#2]

I have/love both lightweight and gov’t profile.
No arguing here.
ETA: but I think a Gunner is the sweet spot compromise.

Posted: 4/24/2018 6:30:21 PM EDT

[#3]

my DD v7 has a govt profile. I like it. YMMV

Posted: 4/24/2018 6:30:42 PM EDT

[#4]

BCM SOCOM barrel for me.

*mainly because that’s what it came with when I bought it*

Posted: 4/24/2018 6:32:14 PM EDT

[#5]

If you’re not hanging an M203 on it, the gov’t profile doesn’t do anything but add bulk.

I do have an HBAR NM gun though (just not here, it’s too scary for the soibois).

Posted: 4/24/2018 6:36:49 PM EDT

[#6]

SOCOM profile

Posted: 4/24/2018 6:40:09 PM EDT

[#7]

87% of my AR barrels are light weight.

I guess I'm getting old

Posted: 4/24/2018 6:41:45 PM EDT

[#8]

lightweight, have one on my DD mid length. easily held/moved around in one hand

Posted: 4/24/2018 6:44:49 PM EDT

[#9]

SOCOM, or other profile of the stiff variety.

8-9”: .300BO
10.5-11.5”: 5.56
12.5”: 6.5G

Don’t care about anything else.

Posted: 4/24/2018 6:45:08 PM EDT

[#10]

For some reason I have been digging fancy looking (fluted, dimpled, etc) lately.

Posted: 4/24/2018 6:45:18 PM EDT

[#11]

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"gov't profile" perfectly reflects how much the government can fuck up anything

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Yup, SOCOM profile was how they un-fucked it. It's still not as good as a tapered profile, a la BCM's ELW barrels, but it's a step forward.

Coldblue explained how the Gov't profile came to be; it was believed that the barrel was bending in front of the FSB under field conditions, so they modified the barrel for the M16A2 into a thicker profile. It was later found that barrels were not bending, so it was a pointless increase in weight that fucked up the weapon's balance.

Why the gov't profile continued with the M4, I have no idea...

Posted: 4/24/2018 6:45:45 PM EDT

[#12]

I like the 18" for my AR15's.

Posted: 4/24/2018 6:49:04 PM EDT

[#13]

DD LW uppers are very well balanced coming from a govt profile.

Posted: 4/24/2018 6:52:27 PM EDT

[#14]

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If you’re not hanging an M203 on it, the gov’t profile doesn’t do anything but add bulk.

I do have an HBAR NM gun though (just not here, it’s too scary for the soibois).

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I don't think that term means what you think it does...

Posted: 4/24/2018 6:54:26 PM EDT

[#15]

Lightweight is the real way.

I don't have a Happy Switch or a 203, so less weight is better, and it balances and points better.

Posted: 4/24/2018 6:56:33 PM EDT

[#16]

I love my DD V7LW it’s a very well balanced rifle.

Posted: 4/24/2018 6:57:09 PM EDT

[#17]

I'd love to hear some sort of justification for those that are choosing the government profile.

Lightweight all day here.

Posted: 4/24/2018 6:59:00 PM EDT

[#18]

I love the Faxon pencil barrel I put on my latest frankengun

Posted: 4/24/2018 7:00:34 PM EDT

[#19]

Government profile is the stupidest profile.

Posted: 4/24/2018 7:04:04 PM EDT

[#20]

HBar with a Bump Stock.

Posted: 4/24/2018 7:06:12 PM EDT

[#21]

BA Hanson profile is best profile until someone figures out you need the barrel fat BEFORE the gas block.

Posted: 4/24/2018 7:07:29 PM EDT

[#22]

I was doing lightweight before it was cool so theres that.

Posted: 4/24/2018 7:09:26 PM EDT

[#23]

What’s the lightweight profile? Guess I don’t know exact definition. I thought it was like pencil but PSA has both lightweight and pencil, what’s the difference?

Posted: 4/24/2018 7:14:34 PM EDT

[#24]

Fpni. I have a DD lightweight in my mini recce. Shoots well, handles well, cannot complain.

Govt profile is potatoes.

Posted: 4/24/2018 7:16:00 PM EDT

[#25]

I don't see the issue. Gov profile is retarded. There isn't an argument.

Posted: 4/24/2018 7:19:31 PM EDT

[#26]

Can anyone tell me why you'd want a lighter weight barrel on a rifle you're not carrying? I can understand wanting a light weight competition or hunting, but for range or home defense rifles, I always figured heavier was better since you're not carrying it around.

Posted: 4/24/2018 7:19:33 PM EDT

[#27]

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What’s the lightweight profile? Guess I don’t know exact definition. I thought it was like pencil but PSA has both lightweight and pencil, what’s the difference?

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.625 front to back

Some companies dick it up because they don't want to have two gas blocks

Posted: 4/24/2018 7:19:41 PM EDT

[#28]

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What’s the lightweight profile? Guess I don’t know exact definition. I thought it was like pencil but PSA has both lightweight and pencil, what’s the difference?

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I also thought pencil and lightweight were the same.

Posted: 4/24/2018 7:28:05 PM EDT

[#29]

Good barrel. Lightweight profile. Free float tube. No issues.

If you find a barrel that starts twisting/bending as it heats up, buy a barrel from a better company and try it. My RRA lightweight chrome lined barrel doesn't move around when it heats up. Neither does that last barrel I got from PSA (doesn't have a free float handguard, but damn it shoots nice groups. It might replace my 18" barreled AR that has been my favorite the last couple of years.

Posted: 4/24/2018 7:56:56 PM EDT

[#30]

yeah, no m203 no gov profile. LW is nice and the Gunner profile makes sense too.

Posted: 4/24/2018 8:05:21 PM EDT

[#31]

I like the BA Hanson profile.

Posted: 4/24/2018 8:07:03 PM EDT

[#32]

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Yup.

On one, gov on the other.

Posted: 4/24/2018 8:12:18 PM EDT

[#33]

I have got 2 v5 lw and a v9lw and love them

Posted: 4/24/2018 8:14:25 PM EDT

[#34]

I simply hate the way most lightweight barrels look. If you are running a longer HG that covers it then cool, but even then; I prefer gov't and heavier profile barrels.

Posted: 4/24/2018 8:17:35 PM EDT

[#35]

Why so much Gov hate? Trannie between the light and heavy?

Posted: 4/24/2018 8:21:37 PM EDT

[#36]

I've had both, and the lightweight is better in every way I can imagine

Posted: 4/24/2018 8:25:44 PM EDT

[#37]

Government weight barrels are stupid. It either needs to be lightweight or it needs to be medium; not this half assed light under the hand guards and Medium on the end.

Posted: 4/24/2018 8:26:22 PM EDT

[#38]

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Can anyone tell me why you'd want a lighter weight barrel on a rifle you're not carrying? I can understand wanting a light weight competition or hunting, but for range or home defense rifles, I always figured heavier was better since you're not carrying it around.

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Well if you are practicing with it a lot you are going to be carrying it so to speak so it will benefit from being lighter. Also light weight is similar to short barrel. A faster, lighter, handier weapon is always better in a fight.

Gov profile gets more hate though because it is effectively lightweight after the gas block and medium profile in front. so more mass at the end.

Posted: 4/24/2018 8:28:39 PM EDT

[#39]

Govt. profile is about as efficient as anything else the government does.

Posted: 4/24/2018 8:50:25 PM EDT

[#40]

Now you all make me want a lightweight setup. I have a few different profiles but never bought lightweight because they look ugly without a full length handguard

Posted: 4/24/2018 8:55:49 PM EDT

[#41]

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Govt. profile is about as efficient as anything else the government does.

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That about sums it up.

Posted: 4/24/2018 8:56:41 PM EDT

[#42]

Government profile seems like a waste to me.

My do-everything rifle is a medium-contour midlength Sabre Defense (remember them?) Recon. Had it for twelve years and it's an amazing rifle.

That being said, I just got a BCM LW midlength which might be even better for HD or anything that isn't precision.

Posted: 4/24/2018 9:08:32 PM EDT

[#43]

Speaking of socom vs govt anyone have input on faxing vs ba in a 10.5” 5.56?

Posted: 4/24/2018 9:15:23 PM EDT

[#44]

I have a 16in ss psa freedom 1/8 middy that shoots awesome and it's not real heavy.

Posted: 4/24/2018 9:22:21 PM EDT

[#45]

Govt profile is never the answer.

Posted: 4/24/2018 9:28:22 PM EDT

[#46]

Hbar's for me.

Posted: 4/24/2018 10:22:49 PM EDT

[#47]

Came here expecting another fucking Yeti thread...Am Not Dissapoint!

Posted: 4/24/2018 10:23:53 PM EDT

[#48]

Pre-A2 government profile is the best government profile.

Posted: 4/24/2018 10:30:52 PM EDT

[#49]

My 10.5 is gov profile, but there's really not much barrel in front of the gas block...
My Noveske is "recon" profile, and the PSA 16" middy I just built is gov profile.
None of them really seem bulky to me.

Nick

Posted: 4/24/2018 10:32:40 PM EDT

[#50]

SoLGW lightweight for me.

Shoots better than I do and saves alot of weight, too.

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