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Link Posted: 12/24/2021 11:54:42 AM EDT
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A lot of the "Past" is just that  THE PAST!! We weren't there and the people that wrote history wrote it in their view. THIER way.

People in this town look up to Martha Berry think she is practically a saint. My Grandmother Told a different story. One of a Hustler and Whore. Gee I wonder why that Building has Fords name on it.

Go figure.
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@rotorblade I assume you're from around Rome. I've always thought Berry College has an absolutely beautiful campus. My wife ran a cross country race there when she was in high school.

What is the story about Martha Berry?
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 11:55:16 AM EDT
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So you don't believe in the one in a million happenings, right?  Nobody ever gets struck by lightning twice or wins 3 lotteries..........
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Those things actually happen pretty often. Look for articles.

Nothing is that rare when the numbers get big enough.

Look at the body of evidence.

My wife teaches kids with severe disabilities.

You know what every kid she ever had that was deaf and blind from a young age couldn't do?

Communicate. Beyond extremely simple things.

Certainly not give 2 hour long speeches about socialism all while supposedly spelling it out letter for letter in someone’s hand.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 11:55:17 AM EDT
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She is considered a ' supercrip '. An anomaly. Life is not like that for deaf/blind.
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I would imagine it would have to be something of a knife edge condition that would impact two separate CNs while leaving the other cranial functions largely unaffected.  If N is large enough, I would think they'll be there, and whether we know it or not.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 11:56:21 AM EDT
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This must be another fake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haben_Girma
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 11:56:30 AM EDT
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Someone who is blind or deaf or mute, these days will have it difficult. Back in the time that keller was around the technology didnt exist to make life easier.

All 3 of those these days and youre doomed like a vegetable confined to a bed. Being deaf and blind is still a lot harder, learning to communicate is going to be damn near impossible if the disability starts off before you learn how to speak or sign.

Even this link https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5918660/helen-keller-disability-history/%3famp=true

You can't teach a blind person to lip read or use sign language because they cant see what is being spelled or spoken.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 11:58:59 AM EDT
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Do you know how she burned her other ear?

They called back.
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Why does she masturbate with one hand?

So she can moan with the other one.  


Didn't she burn her fingers trying to read the waffle iron?
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:00:14 PM EDT
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This must be another fake.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haben_Girma
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How old was she when she lost her sight and hearing?
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:01:52 PM EDT
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I read somewhere that Helen Keller was an Ambassador in Japan before the war.  
  During her time there she was gifted Two Akitas . Known to be the first in the U.S.
   
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:02:57 PM EDT
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I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm just saying nobody has ever made it clear how she was able to do what is claimed.
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Steven Hawking is the more obvious ploy - I doubt anything he said after he stopped moving were his own words.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:08:45 PM EDT
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Corduroy.
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Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:09:43 PM EDT
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@rotorblade I assume you're from around Rome. I've always thought Berry College has an absolutely beautiful campus. My wife ran a cross country race there when she was in high school.

What is the story about Martha Berry?
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Ive got to go to the store and Get a few things for the wife to cook for Xmas,  then I shall Return and Tell the Tell that my grandmother told me and something that happened to me while at the museum.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:09:58 PM EDT
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Steven Hawking is the more obvious ploy - I doubt anything he said after he stopped moving were his own words.
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Naw, hawking was a genius before he was in the chair.

He did a lot of published work before he was fully disabled.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:11:53 PM EDT
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She was immune to flash bangs as well.
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She wore her corduroy pants super tight so people could read her lips.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:19:28 PM EDT
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Nobody who's deaf and blind from that young of an age has EVER learned to communicate. EVER.

She's the only one, who just happened to perfectly mimic her teachers political philosophy.

Fuckin weird right?

Also it's mildly entertaining and worth a listen, unless it'll distract you from your hallmark holiday movie.  
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I would suggest that someone whose sole personal relationship to any real extent is a communist, and who is also completely dependent on other people due to horrible disabilities that are not their fault and which leave her with a horrible prognosis, probably isn't going to be Ayn Rand.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:22:00 PM EDT
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Her learning to communicate, beyond maybe a few simple things, is a lie.

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But did she play a mean pinball?
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:24:45 PM EDT
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I never thought about this before, just took the story told at face value.

Mind blown.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:25:55 PM EDT
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From the thread title I thought it was about her being a bull dyke.

Is that term even still used? Bull dyke.

Speaking of bull dykes,

We had a neighbor who was a Barney Rubble
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My daughter call her burly Shirley . Her real name was Shirley.
Thank god that whole clan packed up and moved to Montana.

Merry Christmas everyone, even the bull dykes.
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I think you may have saved this thread.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:29:39 PM EDT
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Is this some new qanon flat earth chemtrail conspiracy or something?
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:32:33 PM EDT
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I always knew it was a lie once I heard she burned her face answering the iron.

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It was on vibrate mode, duh!
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:34:04 PM EDT
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Is this some new qanon flat earth chemtrail conspiracy or something?
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No, this actually makes sense.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:34:05 PM EDT
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So she wasn't blind?
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Maybe not the whole time
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:34:55 PM EDT
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How old was she when she lost her sight and hearing?
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This must be another fake.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haben_Girma
How old was she when she lost her sight and hearing?


One story days born deaf/blind, another says lost in early childhood.  Congenital probably, brother too is deaf/blind.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:35:27 PM EDT
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No, this actually makes sense.
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Is this some new qanon flat earth chemtrail conspiracy or something?


No, this actually makes sense.
Does it though?

Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:35:54 PM EDT
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@rotorblade I assume you're from around Rome. I've always thought Berry College has an absolutely beautiful campus. My wife ran a cross country race there when she was in high school.

What is the story about Martha Berry?
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A lot of the "Past" is just that  THE PAST!! We weren't there and the people that wrote history wrote it in their view. THIER way.

People in this town look up to Martha Berry think she is practically a saint. My Grandmother Told a different story. One of a Hustler and Whore. Gee I wonder why that Building has Fords name on it.

Go figure.
@rotorblade I assume you're from around Rome. I've always thought Berry College has an absolutely beautiful campus. My wife ran a cross country race there when she was in high school.

What is the story about Martha Berry?



"Show me a hero, and I'll show you a bum"  Gregory "Pappy" Boyington.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:39:08 PM EDT
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One story days born deaf/blind, another says lost in early childhood.  Congenital probably, brother too is deaf/blind.
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Very hard to find the info on her.

Articles conflict, and seem to suggest she has use of some of her senses.

Aka how your grandmother is “legally” blind but can still function just fine.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:39:31 PM EDT
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From the thread title I thought it was about her being a bull dyke.

Is that term even still used? Bull dyke.

Speaking of bull dykes,

We had a neighbor who was a Barney Rubble
lesbo.
My daughter call her burly Shirley . Her real name was Shirley.
Thank god that whole clan packed up and moved to Montana.

Merry Christmas everyone, even the bull dykes.
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And don't call her Shirley.  Was she a dental floss tycoon?
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:39:47 PM EDT
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What part of the arguments in this thread do not make sense?
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:40:06 PM EDT
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Absolutely.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:40:26 PM EDT
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She is considered a ' supercrip '. An anomaly. Life is not like that for deaf/blind.
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Sort of like this?


OP needs to go to Ivy Green and drop truth bombs.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:41:03 PM EDT
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So she wasn't blind?
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She was blind the whole time
Beat, like half a dozen times



Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:46:41 PM EDT
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TikTok conspiracy.  Eh, 1892, same thing.  https://daily.jstor.org/what-does-it-mean-to-call-helen-keller-a-fraud/

Still probably not a new low for GD
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 12:48:16 PM EDT
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TikTok conspiracy.  Eh, 1892, same thing.  https://daily.jstor.org/what-does-it-mean-to-call-helen-keller-a-fraud/

Still probably not a new low for GD
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Yea, because looking at available evidence and using deduction against modern cases makes you a bad person right?

It’s not the person that did the bad thing, it’s questioning the thing.

I see this logic a lot now a days.

If the lie is a sacred cow you must believe!
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 1:10:28 PM EDT
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So HK fraud or not? We need a poll.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 1:17:18 PM EDT
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Amazingly, the only person she could "communicate" with took that to her grave.
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Wait, since when was that the only person she could communicate with?
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 1:22:34 PM EDT
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Holy shit that is funny
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 1:48:34 PM EDT
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Sound still makes vibration, and lips still form words, lol.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 1:52:01 PM EDT
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I would suggest that someone whose sole personal relationship to any real extent is a communist, and who is also completely dependent on other people due to horrible disabilities that are not their fault and which leave her with a horrible prognosis, probably isn't going to be Ayn Rand.
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Yep, isolated exposure is part of programming for “normal” people too.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 2:02:49 PM EDT
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SOOOO

AND HERE WE GO!!!

My grandmother told me this along with a few other people in other families that owned property that Berry had bought from them.

What she would do is go out into the hill the country folk and talk to them and be all friendly. Then she would take pictures of them. Make them feel all proud and happy.  

Then she would travel up north to visit her yankee friends some of which were big industry tycoons and such. Show them pictures of the poor heathen children and their backwards ass parents and family and tell them "I need help educating these poor wretched heathen children because their parents aren't capable of it". The pictures were always when the kids were outside for the whole day playing and helping out on the farms. Well you know what happens when your a kid and play outside all day. YEP you get dirty. Especially in the south in the Later Summer when its dry and HOT and Very little rain. HOT and dusty and sweaty kids equal dirty faced little heathen children.

Come back with loads of cash and go around buying up land form the poor heathen childrens parents and tell them i'm building a school.  Supposedly she didn't do all the buying some others would help. Then she set up the school.

Their is a reason one of the biggest buildings on campus has FORD on it. Supposedly her and Henry Ford were a thing. Eh who cares some chick fucked some old man. Happens every day. Anna Nicole married for love I am told.

YES in the beginning she did good. BUT now Berry College is one of the single most expensive schools south of the Mason Dixon Line and East of the Mississippi to attend.  My grandmother hated that woman. WITH A PASSION!!  Family would fight over which side of the car to ride in so that got to put there back to the entrance of the campus when they drove past there.

Got to go BUT will return soon to tell my tell my personal story of which I remember in flashes and some of which my mom told me what I said when I was either 9 or 10 Cant really remember the age because mom didn't say
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 2:05:16 PM EDT
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.... you leave the plunger in the toilet
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 2:09:18 PM EDT
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Do you have any evidence to support the fact that she was the ONLY deaf and blind person from that young of a age to communicate?

Or are we just going to take a socialist who used her to as a puppet to further her political goals' word for it?

Also bonus video here's Helen talking.  She's just traded bro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ch_H8pt9M8
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Do you have any actual evidence to support your assertions?


Do you have any evidence to support the fact that she was the ONLY deaf and blind person from that young of a age to communicate?

Or are we just going to take a socialist who used her to as a puppet to further her political goals' word for it?

Also bonus video here's Helen talking.  She's just traded bro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ch_H8pt9M8



She did seem to be forming something akin to a few of the words that Anne Sullivan was interpreting.  Considering how evil amd manipulative Communist Atheists are a lot, it certainly bears some skepticism.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 2:11:54 PM EDT
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No, this actually makes sense.
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I don't understand why this whole thing is so important you.

There is a bunch of claims supposedly that were from people who were very close to P.T. Barnum, that say that he never actually said "There is a sucker born every minute".  That it in fact was said by a reporter, who said he said it, falsely.

Let's say that is true....ok.  What does it actually change, now?
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 2:15:16 PM EDT
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Yea, because looking at available evidence and using deduction against modern cases makes you a bad person right?

It’s not the person that did the bad thing, it’s questioning the thing.

I see this logic a lot now a days.

If the lie is a sacred cow you must believe!
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TikTok conspiracy.  Eh, 1892, same thing.  https://daily.jstor.org/what-does-it-mean-to-call-helen-keller-a-fraud/

Still probably not a new low for GD


Yea, because looking at available evidence and using deduction against modern cases makes you a bad person right?

It’s not the person that did the bad thing, it’s questioning the thing.

I see this logic a lot now a days.

If the lie is a sacred cow you must believe!


I don’t get the certainty.  Skepticism is fine.   This guy is one of my favorite posters.Attachment Attached File

Link Posted: 12/24/2021 2:15:53 PM EDT
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Thank you for doing the OP's job.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 2:16:36 PM EDT
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I think you may have saved this thread.
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From the thread title I thought it was about her being a bull dyke.

Is that term even still used? Bull dyke.

Speaking of bull dykes,

We had a neighbor who was a Barney Rubble
lesbo.
My daughter call her burly Shirley . Her real name was Shirley.
Thank god that whole clan packed up and moved to Montana.

Merry Christmas everyone, even the bull dykes.


I think you may have saved this thread.

I read it in Norm Macdonald's voice for some reason.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 2:19:37 PM EDT
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What? That seem like a punchline to a funny joke
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 2:22:37 PM EDT
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Fuck her she was a Commie Piece of shit
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What? That seem like a punchline to a funny joke
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What? That seem like a punchline to a funny joke
 Not to Helen.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 2:25:56 PM EDT
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Look, I don’t know one way or the other but you could teach a person basic communications and build from there using other methods to build larger vocabulary and understanding. Colors and sounds would be almost impossible unless they could be felt (sounds like drums or firearms).

So it is possible, to what extent? I have no idea but I’m sure you could surpass the retarded level.

(Sign wind while blowing in the face) (touch the face and sign face)
Letters would build on other words they may not know and can probably convey other letters or sounds through touch or feeling the face.

Not too far fetched to think stories are manipulated to morph the public into believing in miracles though. They may have really needed it back then.
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