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Posted: 5/19/2024 7:04:19 AM EST
1911 is great, but limited to about 6 rounds.
The Walther PPQ has 10+ rounds but too bulky to carry. Even carrying at 4 o'clock it is pretty obvious that I am carrying. A 1911 with 10 round mag could work, but the mag is going to stick too far out. Glock 21 is also too big. Thinking about the FN 545 but reviews indicate its a bit too big to carry and prints too much. What else is out there? |
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Glock 30 or 30S. While chunky it is about the size of a G19 Arfcom's favorite carry pistol.
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9mm Glock and Smith & Wesson M&P conceal well. Most writers in the gun magazines will grudgingly tell you that recent advances in hollow point bullet technology have pretty much equalized the performance of all standard handgun calibers.
I have .45 ACP and I have 9mm, I would rather carry 12-15 rounds than 7-10 rounds. Have you been trained recently? Are you practicing regularly? Accuracy of delivery has always been the key to success, no matter which caliber is employed. |
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Glock 30 in a flavor of your choice. It’s even easier to conceal with the 9rd flush mag.
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HK45C is slim for a .45. Flush 8 rds and you can have 10 rds extended, although you give up some stealth.
For warm climates, 9mm owns this game. |
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how is a 1911 limited to 6 rounds?
a standard commander or full size will take a flush fit 8+1 in the pipe. So if that's good enough, rock on. |
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I conceal full sized and Commander sized 1911's every day. Not that hard.
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M&P 45 is what you seek.
Although I don't find the PPQ 45 too big to carry, the M&P 45 feels a little bit smaller than the PPQ. You can get one in 10+1 with a 4" bbl. They both can shoot equally well. |
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Quoted: You are correct as I did own one, but the trigger was terrible and ended up selling it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: M&P 45 is what you seek. You are correct as I did own one, but the trigger was terrible and ended up selling it. I agree on this. I believe the latest one has the 2.0 trigger. |
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Quoted: Hmmm, don't recall seeing many of these even in local gun stores or gun shows. Would like to see how it feels. View Quote The overall feel of the HK45 is a massive improvement over the older USP line, and much easier to shoot accurately in my experience. Both are extremely durable, some of the toughest pistols available as proven by extreme testing. The HK45 full size is near magical to shoot, although standard flush mags are only 10 rds (nearly single stack geometry). I know HK could have engineered it told hold 12 rds with slight mods and would have eliminated the #1 beef everyone has about it vs the USP. You can get some very expensive 13 rd extended mags for it, but it's no concern for me. People should spend more time at the range honing their skills and less time worrying about an extra 2-3 rds. |
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AIWB KT Mech Akela w/ Utiliclip Ultituck w/ Mastermind pillow wedge.
Link S&W Shield I wouldn’t write off something with a 7 or 8 round capacity just learn to change magazines and carry extras. |
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What size hands do you have? I shoot a G30 just fine with size 2x hands. Maybe buy a gen 5 if it was the finger bumps bothering you.
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M&P Shield carries 7, IIRC, +1. Same capacity as a 1911 but much smaller.
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Quoted: Glock 30 or 30S. While chunky it is about the size of a G19 Arfcom's favorite carry pistol. View Quote Gen 4 G30S, 10+1: Attached File |
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XDm 3.8 Compact and then carry a 13 round reload for it if you want capacity.
Add a PRP trigger upgrade and it's even better. This one now has a green dot on it but too lazy to dig up the picture for it. Attached File |
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Capacity
Concealability Power You can only have two. A single stack with a reload is probably the best way to hit all three unless you are willing to go with a 9mm. |
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One of my guns in the rotation is a SigC3. It's a 1911 CCO. Commander barrel and slide on an Officers frame. 7+1 with flush mounted mag. I carry two Wilson Combat 8 rd mags as spares.
The Glock 19 is actually the same size as a CCO. With the 1911 being a little slimmer, but with sharper edges and corners that Glocks don't have. |
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OP, what holster are you using?
I carried my XD 45 Service model and a full size XDm 9 for well over 10 years in a Crossbreed Supertuck, both disappeared easily and were comfortable for all day carry even in the blazing NC summer. |
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Quoted: The size comment on the 30 has me totally confused. If he wants it bigger than a 30 but smaller than a 1911 it has to be a small list. View Quote A Taurus PT945 would do that. They were better guns than the gun writers in the mid-90s said they were. The hate would be off the charts and they are relatively rare now. |
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I totally just remembered Beretta Cougar's are pretty bad ass!
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Quoted: P227 is nice! I held one at a gun store and I liked it but they wanted like $750 for it. I believe it is 10+1 though. View Quote 10+1 and 14+1 mags are available. P227 has an alloy frame and is lighter than the slimmer p220. $750 isn't a bad price for a classic P Series Sig if it is in good shape. I have to admit though that I am very biased towards Sig Sauer. I own mostly Sig pistols and have never had an issue with any of them. Sig stands behind their lifetime warranty every time, no questions asked. In my experience the make some of the most reliable and accurate pistols on the market today. It's not a .45 but also look at the Sig X Ten Comp. It's a 15+1 10mm with a 3.8" barrel and built in compensator. The polymer frame makes it lightweight and the 3.8" barrel makes it easily concealable. Over 2k rounds through mine with ZERO failures of any kind. It's also lights out deadly accurate. Here's a pic of a 10 shot group at 15 yds. 8 rounds in to a single 1"hole with 2 bad shots (my fault)opening the group to roughly 2". The X Ten Comp is now my daily CCW. https://ibb.co/VDN1cp8 |
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Quoted: https://i.imgur.com/Ru33uHJ.jpg The PPQ 45 is not really that bad at all, the grip is definitely a full-size grip, no getting around that. The problem I always had with it is that I've still never found anybody that makes a good holster for it, whereas I have three excellent holsters for the M&P. View Quote Milt Sparks makes a really nice holster for it. |
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Lightweight Commander size with Wilson 8+1 mags or Glock 30S.
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Quoted: Quoted: Glock 30 or 30S. While chunky it is about the size of a G19 Arfcom's favorite carry pistol. Way too small for my hands. The G30 is a pretty chunky grip. What kind of hands do you got? Sheesh. Attached File |
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Shield 45. You can get +1 base plate from Hyve Technologies for the 7rd mag. Taking it to 8+1.
I also have a M&P 45 Full-size 1.0. I replaced the sear, springs and trigger with Apex. It shoots great, but bigger than the Shield 45. |
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I carry a full sized 1911, with a CMC 8rd flush fit power mag, plus one ion the chamber for 9 total rds of .45 HST. A 1911 is one of the slimmest guns in a combat caliber you can carry. It nearly disappears if you wear it right. Pick a good, American made brand, and it will be 100% reliable with CMC mags.
I have a Springfield Garrison at this point, 100% reliable with the factory mag and the two CMC 8 round mags. Colt would be great as well. Both are forged steel slides and frames. |
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S&w shield .45 is an excellent carry option but not quite 10 rounds.
https://www.armscor.com/firearms-list/310-45acp-10rd This sub compact from rock island has always intrigued me. |
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Harder to find bit the Sig P250C in .45 is 9+1 and has a phenomenal double action only trigger.
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