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Posted: 8/17/2018 7:50:01 AM EDT
So I am looking to pick up something in 45 acp. Previously I had a couple 1911s in 45acp and will probably get another one at some point, but wanted to look at something else.

What I am looking for is the lowest recoiling 45acp available or is there even such a thing? I remember hk usp full size in 45acp having a recoiling reduction system and that got me thinking of which handgun might have the lowest recoil? Is there a stock handgun out there with great recoil management or an aftermarket option?

I know this a pretty subject topic, but just wanted to get some peoples thoughts.

Thanks!
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 8:06:12 AM EDT
[#1]
So far the one that I shoot that has the lowest recoil is my Springfield XD Mod 2 Tactical with the 5" barrel.  Tack driver.

I am thinking any double stack with a longer barrel will increase the weight and the wide grip will distribute the recoil over a greater area of the hand.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 8:15:46 AM EDT
[#2]
I have just bought an M&P 2.0 full size in 45ACP, because my 45 compact shoots so softly, specially with the 10 round mags & a grip adapter.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 9:33:25 AM EDT
[#3]
steel 1911 is hard to beat. but what you have to do is either load or buy lighter loaded ammo and dial in your springs. I had some 230gn lead rounds traveling at like 750 FPS. it felt better than a 9mm but still made big holes in paper and knocked over steel.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 9:35:17 AM EDT
[#4]
All steel fullsize 1911s are pretty soft shooting
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 9:39:11 AM EDT
[#5]
Lowest recoil 45 is going to be like asking do you like Chevy, Ford, Toyota, or Dodge pickups.

I would not worry about lowest recoil 45 as they are all going to be very similar.  Being able to reach all the controls and functioning the pistol is more of a concern than which is lowest recoil.  If you want absolutely lowest recoil get a HK MK23.

Lots of excellent options exist for 45 but if you are focused on recoil an alloy or steel frame is going to be best bet.  Sig P227, CZ 97, & 2011 come to mind for double stack 45 and 1911 and P220 are good single stack 45.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 9:53:48 AM EDT
[#6]
Pick the cartridge combination you want to shoot then tune the gun to shoot it with the least recoil you can obtain. Not vice versa.

Weight has an effect. Steel vs Alloy vs polymer, polymer can absorb some of the initial peak and flex allowing it to spread out. The barrel link/ramp angle will affect it, and the engineers will play with that. Slide vs frame weight plays a part. Grip width affects perception.

The lowest recoiling gun you might find could be a heavy, overweight fat gripped behemoth you would never carry daily. Be careful what you ask for. And note that if you load it with +P you might find it horrible again. As said, loads have a major effect.

Start with the load you expect to shoot most of the time for that specific purpose then choose what features you want to enhance low recoil.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 10:23:55 AM EDT
[#7]
.45 doesn't need +P to hit with lots of energy, mushroom bigly or easily exceed minimum penetration. Not even out of subcompact guns like the XDs. Seriously, look up the ballistic comparisons. All +P gets you is more noise flash and kick. Shoot standard pressure 230gr loads with an HST, Gold Dot, or other top tier bullet. As an added bonus, when you practice with cheap 230 ball it feels like the real thing.

For Low Recoil?

Heaviest to lightest:
HK Mk23 is nearly a pound heavier than the 1911 or CZ-97B. Not sure how your going to carry it, though.
1911/2011 guns with full dustcovers like SVI and Les Baer Heavyweight Monoliths. Hybrid & Bull Barrels help too.
S&W Performance Center 625. Yeah a revolver. Heavier, more accurate, and a better trigger than a gov. 1911.
CZ-97B also is a heavy gun with a full length dustcover and more capacity... looks good with the blued finish.
Steel frame 1911-A1. Heavy and slim, they're easy to carry. Best for the money is Dan Wesson Valor Duty Coat.
Glock 21 with a TLR-1 Light is quite heavy. Especially when loaded with a 26+ round mag. Not too carryable.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 10:43:37 AM EDT
[#8]
My softest recoiling full sized 9mm is my HK USP 9 so an HK USP 45 would be a good bet. When I say recoil, I'm mainly focusing on muzzle flip/rise.

My FNX-45 is also pretty tame, as is my P320 full size.

Used to have a gen 4 Glock 21 (.45acp) that was just as easy to shoot if a striker fire is what you want. (Edit: P320 is striker fire too. I forget that cause it doesn't have a trigger safety.) The long slide versions don't really recoil much softer to me.

Honestly, I don't think weight alone is gonna guarantee a soft shooter. I like my Colt 1911 and for a single stack grip it's easy to control. But the G21 & FNX had less muzzle flip with identical ammo and made for faster follow ups. I used to own a CZ-97B, an excellent trigger and a soft shooter but despite it's heavier weight than the poly guns, it wasn't an easier shooter. I've also shot a Bersa Thunder .45acp that was accurate but had more muzzle flip.

Of all these pistols I'd start with a USP 45, just my preference.
Assuming we're talking about shooting std. pressure 230 gr. ball ammo, correct? I say that cause when I traded my G21 for a long slide gen 4 G40 10mm I let a friend shoot it and he immediately said I should check the RSA cause it recoils too much vs the G21. We loaded the same Sig Elite fmj ammo in a RIA 10mm 1911 and he had a better appreciation for the G40.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 10:53:33 AM EDT
[#9]
I'm going with a 15" Encore
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 11:19:14 AM EDT
[#10]
My two would be a 5" steel framed 1911 or an H&K USP.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 11:36:26 AM EDT
[#11]
Glock 21 because of muh  bore axxxxes.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 11:37:08 AM EDT
[#12]
For me, the lowest recoiling 45s I have or can recall are an H&K USP 45 and a Taurus PT1911.  Interestingly enough, my M&P Shield 45 is a soft recoiling compact 45.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 11:52:51 AM EDT
[#13]
My RIA 3.5in Officer's model with the double recoil spring is very "soft"
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 11:53:21 AM EDT
[#14]
I'd say HK is probably the best, MK23, USP, HK45. But then again the FNX-45 is nice too. Glock 21 isn't bad either. I'm a fan of the FN because of the highest mag capacity of 15 rounds of 45acp is just awesome. The HK MK23 is a tank!! Great for the end of the world or something, ha. But it's a bit large for me.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 1:16:30 PM EDT
[#15]
A 1911 with a flat bottom EGW firing pin stop, 25lb mainspring, and the Colt dual recoil spring system from the M45A1.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 1:21:28 PM EDT
[#16]
Of all the 45's I've shot to date, the long slide Glock 41 gets my vote.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 1:26:39 PM EDT
[#17]
21C shoots soft.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 2:05:30 PM EDT
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+1

Double stack and the long slide help it right out of the box.  Then glockify it with a rmr, 40 round mag, and a suppressor and its as heavy as a tommy gun.  No recoil.

Speaking of tommy gun...
Its a 45acp pistol that weighs 5lb even before you add a steel drum and 50 rounds of .45.


That's my vote.  Tommy for the softest, but glock 41 if you want to actually carry it around.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 3:02:04 PM EDT
[#19]
These are pretty nice.

Link Posted: 8/17/2018 4:40:41 PM EDT
[#20]
Full size steel 1911.
Maybe a tungsten rod.

Use 185 to 200 grain semiwadcutter over bullseye.

The super light charge further reduces recoil.

Most guns will need a reduced recoil spring.

Look at Bullseye loads.

Even if you use a 230 gr. FMJ they are low recoil.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 4:44:04 PM EDT
[#21]
1911. Only going to recoil once per magazine.

But seriously long slide glock is the answer
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 4:51:45 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/17/2018 5:51:23 PM EDT
[#23]
ooh ooh ooh easy answer.....Ruger Bisley with a 7.5" barrel. those heavy beasts soak up recoil like nobodys business.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 8:22:17 PM EDT
[#24]
Jesus Christ, .45acp in any full size gun (including the 1911) is NOT a heavy recoiling cartridge.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 8:33:34 PM EDT
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pretty much, using a competition load helps as well
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 9:03:56 PM EDT
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Of all the .45's I've shot, I like the Gen4 Glock 21 the best.  The dual captive recoil springs assembly (RSA) is very effective and the slightly wide grip of the G21 itself lends to some rather low recoil overall.  I purchased a KKM 4 port compensated barrel for it, mainly to shoot .45 Super, but let me tell you, with that barrel in the gun, that .45 recoiled less than 9mm, it was VERY easy to shoot.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 9:07:30 PM EDT
[#27]
Gotta pay to play if you want the lowest recoiling .45 acp.

(not mine)

Link Posted: 8/17/2018 9:13:45 PM EDT
[#28]
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.45 doesn't need +P to hit with lots of energy, mushroom bigly or easily exceed minimum penetration. Not even out of subcompact guns like the XDs. Seriously, look up the ballistic comparisons. All +P gets you is more noise flash and kick. Shoot standard pressure 230gr loads with an HST, Gold Dot, or other top tier bullet. As an added bonus, when you practice with cheap 230 ball it feels like the real thing.

For Low Recoil?

Heaviest to lightest:
HK Mk23 is nearly a pound heavier than the 1911 or CZ-97B. Not sure how your going to carry it, though.
1911/2011 guns with full dustcovers like SVI and Les Baer Heavyweight Monoliths. Hybrid & Bull Barrels help too.
S&W Performance Center 625. Yeah a revolver. Heavier, more accurate, and a better trigger than a gov. 1911.
CZ-97B also is a heavy gun with a full length dustcover and more capacity... looks good with the blued finish.
Steel frame 1911-A1. Heavy and slim, they're easy to carry. Best for the money is Dan Wesson Valor Duty Coat.
Glock 21 with a TLR-1 Light is quite heavy. Especially when loaded with a 26+ round mag. Not too carryable.
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Fake news.  A Mk23 is the same weight as a steel 1911 in Government length.
Link Posted: 8/17/2018 10:38:47 PM EDT
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Jesus Christ, .45acp in any full size gun (including the 1911) is NOT a heavy recoiling cartridge.
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It's a 45acp.  How much more mild do you want a hand gun caliber to be.
You want rough & tumble?
Try 44mag in a S&W M29 or Buffalo Bore rounds in 44 out of a  Ruger 3/58" Super Blackhawk.
Now we are talking . [img]/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif[/

ETA: No disrespect OP . Just do not understand the whole recoil attitude with 45 acp.
Link Posted: 8/18/2018 12:06:22 AM EDT
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Gotta pay to play if you want the lowest recoiling .45 acp.

(not mine)

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I bet this one is heavier and recoil s less

Red hawk in 45lc/acp

Link Posted: 8/18/2018 12:17:35 AM EDT
[#31]
Glock 41 shoots soft as fuck
Link Posted: 8/18/2018 12:24:54 AM EDT
[#32]
mk23

recoil becomes trivial when you're shooting with a boat anchor
Link Posted: 8/18/2018 1:09:03 AM EDT
[#33]
I've owned or shot the HK45, the G41, G21, P320 in 45, P220, and M&P 45 gen 1 (mid-sized)--I also own a 1911 Colt competition.

None of them are snappy or bad, but I remember being surprised at the M&P 45 (mid) and the P320 (full) for some reason.  Again, it is very subjective.  I'm not sure if the new MP45 2.0 would feel much different, but I think they reinforced the frame a bit, made the trigger a lot better, shaved an ounce or so off the slide.  For the money ($480), that would be my choice, but used gen1s are around for $350 online.

If you can, rent a few.  I rented the G41 and G21, and I didn't notice much difference in them--I likely would have gotten the G41 if I didn't get a Police trade-in MP45.1 that was like new for $300 (with 5 total mags).  The grips on the 45 glocks just seem too big to me (my hands are "presidential").

NOTE:  for some odd reason, the mid-size polymer 45s usually seem to have less recoil to me than the longer (and heavier) versions.  I've shot the MPs in 4.5" and 5" as well as the HK45C and HK45 (I owned the HK45).  While I've only shot the 320 full-size, but despite what appeared to be a high bore-axis for a striker gun, I would double-tapped as fast as I could, and it would go into a tiny 1.5"-2" spread at 7 yards.
Link Posted: 8/18/2018 1:24:49 AM EDT
[#34]
Mark 23
S&W 4506
1911
Glock 21
Link Posted: 8/18/2018 1:31:42 AM EDT
[#35]
P220 Stainless Elite

Heavy as fuck.

Add a extra power recoil and hammer spring and it will be nice and gentle. Mine shoots very soft. Add a threaded barrel and a comp and it will be even better.

Other option.
Springfield Range officer operator and get a 45ACP comp kit from Clark Customs. It's the 460 Rowland kit with the 45ACP chamber instead of the 460. Add a flat bottom firing pin block, and holy hell. It barely vibrates when it shoots.
Link Posted: 8/18/2018 1:39:55 AM EDT
[#36]
recoil is based on the total ejected mass too, so if you reduce that you reduce recoil as well.
Link Posted: 8/18/2018 2:12:06 AM EDT
[#37]
HK USP45.
Link Posted: 8/18/2018 2:44:47 AM EDT
[#38]
.45ACP Beretta PX4 has fairly mild recoil.
Link Posted: 8/18/2018 3:22:06 AM EDT
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I concur. I love mine as it gets more action than my 21 and 1911s.
Link Posted: 8/18/2018 7:58:45 AM EDT
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Wheel guns don't have recoil springs built into the design.  You're relying on the weight, and compensator on the 625 v-comp, to mitigate the recoil.  They aren't bad to shoot, but still kick harder than some heavy auto loaders with big springs in them soaking up energy.
Link Posted: 8/18/2018 9:38:28 AM EDT
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A 1911 with a flat bottom EGW firing pin stop, 25lb mainspring, and the Colt dual recoil spring system from the M45A1.
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I havnt heard of the "flat bottom EGW firing pin stop".  What does that do for the working of a 1911?

Thanks for the colt dual recoil suggestion ill have to check that out.
Link Posted: 8/18/2018 10:06:05 AM EDT
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Jesus Christ, .45acp in any full size gun (including the 1911) is NOT a heavy recoiling cartridge.
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Figured I would get a big tough guy post^^^

Lol never said it was a heavy recoiling round
Link Posted: 8/18/2018 12:21:18 PM EDT
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Wheel guns don't have recoil springs built into the design.  You're relying on the weight, and compensator on the 625 v-comp, to mitigate the recoil.  They aren't bad to shoot, but still kick harder than some heavy auto loaders with big springs in them soaking up energy.
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I bet this one is heavier and recoil s less
Wheel guns don't have recoil springs built into the design.  You're relying on the weight, and compensator on the 625 v-comp, to mitigate the recoil.  They aren't bad to shoot, but still kick harder than some heavy auto loaders with big springs in them soaking up energy.
That's why you load frangible rounds.
Link Posted: 8/18/2018 4:03:49 PM EDT
[#44]
FNX-45 Tactical with a AAC TiRant can is REALLY soft shooting.
Link Posted: 8/18/2018 7:21:35 PM EDT
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suppressors tend to do that... on every caliber.
Link Posted: 8/18/2018 9:18:55 PM EDT
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If you're talking efficient recoil management for it's size and weight, I am always surprised how comfortable shooting my fullsize S&W M&P 45 is. It weighs 29.5 ounces with an empty magazine and it is fun to shoot all day with 230 grain ammo. I have to have an Apex Hard Sear in there to get the trigger pull right. Fully loaded ten round mags keep the weight down for IWB carry while allowing a "modern" amount of firepower on tap.

Link Posted: 8/18/2018 11:52:45 PM EDT
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I've got a CZ 97BD that feels more like a 9mm when I shoot it.  Very manageable gun and pretty accurate too.

S&W M&P 2.0 in .45 is a close second.
Link Posted: 8/19/2018 1:09:18 AM EDT
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P320 .45 carry is very soft shooting
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Link Posted: 8/19/2018 2:40:36 PM EDT
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Heavier doesn’t always mean less recoil. You have to try several to find the best that works for you. I’ve shot lots of different 10mm handguns and was surprised how a heavy 4” 610 felt like it recoiled more than a stock G20.
Link Posted: 8/20/2018 9:41:02 AM EDT
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FNX 45T
G21
MK23
USP 45T
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