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Posted: 5/30/2022 1:36:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Duffy]
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I need to reserve some observations on the EFLX till it goes live, till then, the things I can share:
DPP footprint is good, we don't need yet another footprint Sight body is thinner than that of the DPP, but thicker than the RMR, you'll need sight sets with 0.365 or 0.040 for lower 1/3 co-witness Window is smaller than DPP but larger than RMR Lens is well recessed, you can rack the slide with the EFLX without damaging the lens, but the same can be said of most open emitter red dot sights too. We will buy one as soon as it's released. Its being made in the USA is a great thing, and the price point is between an RMR and H sight, I think it'll do well. |
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Posted: 5/30/2022 3:50:20 PM EDT
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For the RMR type 2 folks, I’m curious if your glass has a bunch of occlusions/bubbles in it?
This can’t be right. Literally just bought it.  Attached File Attached FileIt’s hard to capture on camera, but there’s spots all over and in the glass. One is right in the middle of the glass and looks like a dark spot in the middle of the dot. Can’t see them until the dot is visible in the window. I tried cleaning the glass and blowing out the emitter. |
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Posted: 5/30/2022 3:54:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/30/2022 3:56:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mudholestomper: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/511664/A4BAAF3B-0D68-42CD-B033-D5BC41BF8752_jpe-2402207.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/511664/319E0066-FF73-4F57-BB1D-598737FD4482_jpe-2402208.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/511664/52CE94B1-9C7F-4B3E-AB8D-CA21A00FCB40_jpe-2402210.JPG My RMR Type 2 lens is about as flawless as any other high quality optic I own. You may need to give them a call. |
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Posted: 5/30/2022 4:08:07 PM EDT
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Yep call Trijicon, partly what you paid for is excellent customer service and support.
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Posted: 5/30/2022 4:17:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Duffy: Yep call Trijicon, partly what you paid for is excellent customer service and support. And QC 
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Posted: 5/30/2022 5:01:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mudholestomper]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-12: And QC Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-12: Originally Posted By Duffy: Yep call Trijicon, partly what you paid for is excellent customer service and support. And QC Yeah no shit. This one is so bad it looks like one central dot surrounded by a dozen little tiny dots all over the glass as all of those bubbles pick up the light as well. It’s like looking at a dime store diamond, with black spots and inclusions in it. |
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Posted: 5/30/2022 5:14:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mudholestomper: Yeah no shit. This one is so bad it looks like one central dot surrounded by a dozen little tiny dots all over the glass as all of those bubbles pick up the light as well. It's like looking at a dime store diamond, with black spots and inclusions in it. |
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Posted: 5/30/2022 6:01:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bradd_D: Did you clean both sides of the glass? I thought I had the same issue until I realized how much gets on the inside of the lens. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bradd_D: Originally Posted By mudholestomper: Yeah no shit. This one is so bad it looks like one central dot surrounded by a dozen little tiny dots all over the glass as all of those bubbles pick up the light as well. It's like looking at a dime store diamond, with black spots and inclusions in it. Yes. I stated that in my first post. I literally just got it and installed it on a brand new, unfired handgun. I cleaned the inside and outside of the lense. |
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Posted: 5/30/2022 6:14:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Duffy: I need to reserve some observations on the EFLX till it goes live, till then, the things I can share: DPP footprint is good, we don't need yet another footprint Sight body is thinner than that of the DPP, but thicker than the RMR, you'll need sight sets with 0.365 or 0.040 for lower 1/3 co-witness Window is smaller than DPP but larger than RMR Lens is well recessed, you can rack the slide with the EFLX without damaging the lens, but the same can be said of most open emitter red dot sights too. We will buy one as soon as it's released. Its being made in the USA is a great thing, and the price point is between an RMR and H sight, I think it'll do well. Using the DPP footprint makes it obvious they want a mil contract for the SIGs. I wonder why they didn't include a way to attach a rear backup sight like the DPP has. |
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Posted: 5/30/2022 6:54:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mudholestomper: Yes. I stated that in my first post. I literally just got it and installed it on a brand new, unfired handgun. I cleaned the inside and outside of the lense.  You bought it from a reputable source? |
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Posted: 5/30/2022 7:08:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Duffy]
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The backup sight that can be installed on the back of the DPP doesn't get much love, it's not very good, Leupold won't mind me saying so, as it likes our DPP plate and Dawson sights for LE and MIL applications.
Being the sight body is not as thick as the DPP's but still thicker than the RMR's, sight sets with 0.365 should be enough to provide lower 1/3 co-witness. As a reference, DPP require sight sets with a 0.5 front sight. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeatBag: Using the DPP footprint makes it obvious they want a mil contract for the SIGs. I wonder why they didn't include a way to attach a rear backup sight like the DPP has. |
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Posted: 5/30/2022 7:32:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Duffy: As a reference, DPP require sight sets with a 0.5 front sight. So you gotta attach a skyscraper as a front sight?
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Posted: 5/30/2022 10:10:00 PM EDT
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That height sounds crazy, but it's not too bad when everything is installed. No agencies I know of will allow a red dot gun without backup sights on duty, DPP's window is huge and clear, the tall backup sights are a compromise, it's not as bad as one might think.
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Posted: 5/30/2022 10:30:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mudholestomper]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bradd_D: Actually, you just said you cleaned the glass. You bought it from a reputable source? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bradd_D: Originally Posted By mudholestomper: Yes. I stated that in my first post. I literally just got it and installed it on a brand new, unfired handgun. I cleaned the inside and outside of the lense. You bought it from a reputable source? Yes sir. From a local gun shop at an indoor range that a work buddy works at part time. (That was a mouthful and probably could have been said in a better way) Got it for a great price because of his employee discount, buuuut…
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Posted: 5/31/2022 7:18:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mudholestomper: Yes sir. From a local gun shop at an indoor range that a work buddy works at part time. (That was a mouthful and probably could have been said in a better way) Got it for a great price because of his employee discount, buuuut… Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mudholestomper: Originally Posted By Bradd_D: Originally Posted By mudholestomper: Yes. I stated that in my first post. I literally just got it and installed it on a brand new, unfired handgun. I cleaned the inside and outside of the lense. You bought it from a reputable source? Yes sir. From a local gun shop at an indoor range that a work buddy works at part time. (That was a mouthful and probably could have been said in a better way) Got it for a great price because of his employee discount, buuuut… Trijicon will make things right. |
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Posted: 5/31/2022 9:57:25 AM EDT
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I just recently returned my RMR for a similar issue. A bad batch may have gotten past QC.
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Posted: 6/1/2022 8:40:28 AM EDT
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I'm hoping the Eotech durability tests start coming out soon (and they actually become available). I've been wanting to cut an M&P but have been holding out for the footprint. I'd like to try DPP instead of RMR, but if there are no durable options then I guess it will be rmr again. Hopefully the eotech solves the problem. If it passes Cowans drop test I'll commit.
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Posted: 6/1/2022 11:06:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/1/2022 12:59:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeatBag: Do you have a favorite optic? @MeatBag, at this point the RMR is. I haven't yet shot with SRO and wouldn't be surprised if I like that more. I have had all good experiences with the Holosuns, but can't say I am crazy about the 509T. Just not sure it offers any real benefits at the expense a weird footprint requiring a higher mount. The Leupold DPP micro is just a ghost ring, it sucks. The DPP I am not crazy about; I don't like the footprint, it is ugly, it is tall, and turning these things on and off blocks the emitter so it is sort of a pain to verify that it is on/off. The RomeoZero was kind of a similiar experience. TLDR, buy Trijicon. If you can't afford it, buy a Holosun that fits an RMR cut. |
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Posted: 6/1/2022 4:11:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Holdemdown: I just recently returned my RMR for a similar issue. A bad batch may have gotten past QC. Interesting. My glass was pretty awful. I messaged them through their website and dropped it off with UPS this morning. |
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Posted: 6/1/2022 6:36:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TW200]
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My glock is completed and has a perfect CO witness.
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Posted: 6/3/2022 12:09:41 AM EDT
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I posted about this in the Sage Comp thread on the glock forum but figured I'd mention it here as well. I think the additional weight of the 508T is causing issues with certain ammo types through this comp (which uses a proprietary guide rod so the comp can self-time for toolless removal). I tested 9 different types of FMJ with the comp, all 100% reliable with the stock 19x slide, but with the 19/508T (1.1oz heavier) 5 were reliable and the other 4 malfunctioned 1-3 times per mag.
 fail with 19/508T, pass with 19x: Geco 124gr (whitebox EU), Geco 115gr (redbox EU), Magtech 124gr, Blazer Brass 115gr zero malfunctions with both slides: Geco 115gr (whitebox US), RUAG 124gr, Magtech 115gr, Winchester USA 115gr, Fiocchi 115gr All of this ammo works 100% with the 19/508 and OEM barrel/assembly. This is the only comp I've used and as I mentioned it uses a proprietary guide rod, so I have no idea if optic weight would affect a KKM etc w/ standard recoil assembly. The people running RMR's with this comp haven't had any of the issues I ran into with the 508T setup though, and I think this is due to the extra .8oz compared to an RMR. 508T - 2oz SRO - 1.6oz 407/507 - 1.5oz RMR - 1.2oz I have a 507c that was intended for a P10, so I'm going to try testing that with the comp to see if it makes a difference. 
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Posted: 6/6/2022 10:18:04 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/6/2022 3:27:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/6/2022 8:52:22 PM EDT
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I have finally joined the future
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Posted: 6/6/2022 11:47:01 PM EDT
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We’ll I’ll know what all the fuss is about in a few days. Finally adding a 507C to my gun.
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Posted: 6/7/2022 12:23:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee: We’ll I’ll know what all the fuss is about in a few days. Finally adding a 507C to my gun. excellent choice |
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Posted: 6/7/2022 10:24:45 PM EDT
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I'm getting set to have my 19 slide milled for a RMR.
do you guys have any advantages/cons to putting the rear iron site either in front or behind the rmr? what's your reasoning for liking one over the other? I'm sure it's been discussed but trying to scan 50 pages... appreciate the help. |
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Posted: 6/7/2022 10:49:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bennjammin: I'm getting set to have my 19 slide milled for a RMR. do you guys have any advantages/cons to putting the rear iron site either in front or behind the rmr? what's your reasoning for liking one over the other? I'm sure it's been discussed but trying to scan 50 pages... appreciate the help. |
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Posted: 6/8/2022 3:39:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Look at the links at bottom of OP appreciate that, thank you. |
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Posted: 6/8/2022 9:55:03 AM EDT
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Iron in front of optic FTMFW!
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Posted: 6/8/2022 1:59:52 PM EDT
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Both of my RMRs are mounted in front of the rear sight, but that's because they're both MOS/FCD and Staccato plate systems. If I was going to mill a gun for an RMR, I would put the rear sight forward of the RMR.
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Posted: 6/8/2022 3:24:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: joglee]
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Finally joined the fold. I'll be upgrading to a CHPWS plate when they eventually get them back in stock...Hopefully soon.
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Posted: 6/8/2022 3:36:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Real_PhillBert: Both of my RMRs are mounted in front of the rear sight, but that's because they're both MOS/FCD and Staccato plate systems. If I was going to mill a gun for an RMR, I would put the rear sight forward of the RMR. |
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Posted: 6/8/2022 5:39:06 PM EDT
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Ok, if you were gonna get a set of irons, blacked out rear, tritium front, lower third, not suppressor height, what sights would you choose?
Thanks. |
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Posted: 6/8/2022 5:56:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bennjammin: Ok, if you were gonna get a set of irons, blacked out rear, tritium front, lower third, not suppressor height, what sights would you choose? Thanks.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/8/2022 9:23:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: eaglecp]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bennjammin: Ok, if you were gonna get a set of irons, blacked out rear, tritium front, lower third, not suppressor height, what sights would you choose? Thanks. I may have missed what gun you are running, but on one of my P320’s, I have Trijicon HV sights on it. They are slightly lower than “lower 1/3”. I can just make out the front and rear sight cut outs through an RMR window. It’s very hard to photo. I HATE, and I will say that emphasized, I HATE when the window of my MRD is “busied up” with irons. I have found that the slightly lower profile of the HV sights is preferable to suppressor height XRAY3’s for me. Crappy pic I know but you get the idea.  Cp |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 12:14:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Blacktoothgrin]
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Doh!
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Posted: 6/9/2022 12:16:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bradd_D: I put this set on my Glock 17 Gen 4 MOS. It is lower third. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2261/IMG_3602_JPG-2411809.JPG So did I, good sights and not too expensive. Why they don't serrated the rears like regular height sights I'll never know |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 3:55:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Holdemdown: Why they don't serrated the rears like regular height sights I'll never know |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 10:40:04 PM EDT
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Quote Historyhave you had that light for awhile or just get it? I can't find one anywhere |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:10:20 AM EDT
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 Attached FileSpent some time with each of these last weekend. The Leupold on the 26 takes a bit of getting used to |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 8:54:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Happycamp]
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new toy
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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:57:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: joglee]
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We’ll I’m a believer. Took my 507c and got it sighted in, and saw a big difference in my group sizes…also realized how unsteady my hands are…. Oh well, still get all A shots at 25 yards.
Not the biggest fan of the ACSS chevron, love the giant ring, but kinda wish it had a dot with the ring. I find the chevron harder to zero personally than a dot. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 4:00:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee: We’ll I’m a believer. Took my 507c and got it sighted in, and saw a big difference in my group sizes…also realized how unsteady my hands are…. Oh well, still get all A shots at 25 yards. Not the biggest fan of the ACSS chevron, love the giant ring, but kinda wish it had a dot with the ring. I find the chevron harder to zero personally than a dot. It will definitely show you how much you need to steady your aim. |
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Posted: 6/18/2022 8:09:18 PM EDT
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 Attached File Attached FileI just finished my CCW renewal class today. I really like shooting with RMR's now. I highly recommend them. |
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Posted: 6/19/2022 9:27:03 PM EDT
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This has become a problem
I started down this journey with a Glock 34 MOS and an RMR RM01 that I stole off my ACOG. I liked it so much I’m now up to four RDS equipped pistols. Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS - RMR RM06 Glock 17 Gen 5 MOS - Holosun 509T X2 Glock 34 Gen 5 MOS - RMR RM06 Sig P320 M17 - RMR RM06 HRS    
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Posted: 6/19/2022 9:51:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: This has become a problem I started down this journey with a Glock 34 MOS and an RMR RM01 that I stole off my ACOG. I liked it so much I’m now up to four RDS equipped pistols. Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS - RMR RM06 Glock 17 Gen 5 MOS - Holosun 509T X2 Glock 34 Gen 5 MOS - RMR RM06 Sig P320 M17 - RMR RM06 HRS https://i.imgur.com/faXEjKs.jpg https://i.imgur.com/dirA474.jpg https://i.imgur.com/M6rH2Wu.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sUAZN1u.jpg RDS all the things. I've already conceded that any new handgun I get will be getting a dot. |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 1:27:32 AM EDT
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