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Posted: 6/20/2022 1:24:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/20/2022 2:39:45 PM EDT
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I picked up a XL365 for dry fire practice. The last few nights Ive been shooting it. I kind of like it! I’ll have to run a few drills with it!
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:48:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Duffy: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/781/IMG_0581_jpeg-2424873.JPG Still excitedly waiting on the Staccato plates! |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:31:56 AM EDT
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They're ready, just waiting for the steel rear sights to show up
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:38:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Duffy: They're ready, just waiting for the steel rear sights to show up |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 12:25:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tranquility]
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Just preaching to the choir but after trying one on a P320 it was meh but on a second P320 woth a grip frame that fit my hand better it was like a pistol became a PCC. I'm having my Glock 19 milled.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/22/2022 1:05:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Duffy: They're ready, just waiting for the steel rear sights to show up Sweet, just need an ACRO P2 and the FCD Plate for this guy lol 
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Posted: 6/23/2022 10:22:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/1/2022 10:37:32 AM EDT
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 My three optics equipped pistols. |
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Posted: 7/1/2022 12:27:27 PM EDT
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Just waiting on FCD to release their Staccato plate.
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Posted: 7/1/2022 1:30:10 PM EDT
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They're ready, just without the rear sights which are being reworked
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Posted: 7/6/2022 10:11:05 AM EDT
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AIWB FTW!
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Posted: 7/7/2022 7:30:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By army75th: Gave red dot a chance. Practicing did not help , after 6,000 rounds I came to the conclusion- irons is faster than chasing a damn dot. Just another fad If you are chasing a dot, it sounds like your presentation needs work. |
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Posted: 7/7/2022 8:10:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vic_Crown: If you are chasing a dot, it sounds like your presentation needs work. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vic_Crown: Originally Posted By army75th: Gave red dot a chance. Practicing did not help , after 6,000 rounds I came to the conclusion- irons is faster than chasing a damn dot. Just another fad If you are chasing a dot, it sounds like your presentation needs work. 100% |
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Posted: 7/7/2022 1:12:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NorthPolar]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vic_Crown: If you are chasing a dot, it sounds like your presentation needs work. Yup. Putting a dot on my .22 Glock upper has helped me figure a lot out about my presentation and trigger pull. Plus, the SO loves practicing with it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/7/2022 5:22:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vic_Crown: If you are chasing a dot, it sounds like your presentation needs work. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vic_Crown: Originally Posted By army75th: Gave red dot a chance. Practicing did not help , after 6,000 rounds I came to the conclusion- irons is faster than chasing a damn dot. Just another fad If you are chasing a dot, it sounds like your presentation needs work. Tape over the front lens with painters tape helps a ton. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/10/2022 2:04:01 AM EDT
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Do y’all use blue or purple loctite? I’m leaning towards purple due to it being designed for small screws.
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Posted: 7/10/2022 2:56:17 AM EDT
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Blue
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Posted: 7/10/2022 10:49:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee: Do y’all use blue or purple loctite? I’m leaning towards purple due to it being designed for small screws. Blue |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/10/2022 1:41:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: joglee]
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Thank, I’ll use blue. Took a chance on CHPWS(Not a lot of RMR M&P Mounts for some reason). No regrets, I either got a good batch or they fixed their CQ issues.
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Posted: 7/10/2022 9:40:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee: Do y'all use blue or purple loctite? I'm leaning towards purple due to it being designed for small screws. |
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Posted: 7/10/2022 9:47:35 PM EDT
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Purple works fine. Just make sure the threads are degreased really good. I use rubbing alcohol regardless of which Loctite I'm going to use.
I've been using only grease and proper torque on scope rings forever and never had one come loose. |
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Posted: 7/10/2022 9:58:06 PM EDT
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PSA: Plates are bullshit, I'm getting this bitch milled. Also waiting on a not-Chinese company to make a green dot that's worth a damn.
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Posted: 7/11/2022 10:09:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pokey074: Vibra Tite VC3 |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 10:46:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bradd_D: I'm going to try this again next time. I tried it once and tried to apply it like Loctite. It didn't go well. IIRC you have to wait for it to get tacky before you tighten your fasteners |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 5:17:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-12: IIRC you have to wait for it to get tacky before you tighten your fasteners |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2022 5:33:59 PM EDT
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Last question. Do you go to 15in/lb torque on the CHPWS screws? The holosun screws call for 15in/lb, but the CHPWS provided screw are longer and I've read they should be torqued to 10in/lb.
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Posted: 7/12/2022 10:20:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Gunnie357]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee: Last question. Do you go to 15in/lb torque on the CHPWS screws? The holosun screws call for 15in/lb, but the CHPWS provided screw are longer and I've read they should be torqued to 10in/lb. Plate to slide 10 in/lb same with optic to plate  Attached File |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2022 11:05:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunnie357: Plate to slide 10 in/lb same with optic to plate https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/490499/2A1DB797-D0EC-4C86-BF84-1BA43B9F8656_png-2450736.JPG Thanks. I take it that applies to the M&P which has the screws mount to the slide vs plate. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:11:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee: Thanks. I take it that applies to the M&P which has the screws mount to the slide vs plate. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee: Originally Posted By Gunnie357: Plate to slide 10 in/lb same with optic to plate https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/490499/2A1DB797-D0EC-4C86-BF84-1BA43B9F8656_png-2450736.JPG Thanks. I take it that applies to the M&P which has the screws mount to the slide vs plate. Can’t speak for that typically what I’ve seen has been 10 from plate to gun. As for direct milled guns I don’t know. I’m running ten from plate to gun then 25 from optic to plate per manufacture but that’s a Sig optic. Let me check my optics sheet see if it says what optic specifically are you running? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/13/2022 2:59:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: joglee]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunnie357: Can’t speak for that typically what I’ve seen has been 10 from plate to gun. As for direct milled guns I don’t know. I’m running ten from plate to gun then 25 from optic to plate per manufacture but that’s a Sig optic. Let me check my optics sheet see if it says what optic specifically are you running? I should have worded that better. The M&P uses the CHPWS plate, but is threaded for the RMR so the screws gos straight through the optic and plate into the slide. Optic I’m using the 507C. ETA: Ended up just going with 13in/lb which should work fine. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 10:03:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Gunnie357]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee: I should have worded that better. The M&P uses the CHPWS plate, but is threaded for the RMR so the screws gos straight through the optic and plate into the slide. Optic I’m using the 507C. ETA: Ended up just going with 13in/lb which should work fine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee: Originally Posted By Gunnie357: Can’t speak for that typically what I’ve seen has been 10 from plate to gun. As for direct milled guns I don’t know. I’m running ten from plate to gun then 25 from optic to plate per manufacture but that’s a Sig optic. Let me check my optics sheet see if it says what optic specifically are you running? I should have worded that better. The M&P uses the CHPWS plate, but is threaded for the RMR so the screws gos straight through the optic and plate into the slide. Optic I’m using the 507C. ETA: Ended up just going with 13in/lb which should work fine. 15 in/lb is the spec I have listed for Holsun 507/508/509 so 13 should be dandy. Mine calls for 30 but I run 25 |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 7/13/2022 10:03:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RazorEdge]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By karmapolice: Sweet, just need an ACRO P2 and the FCD Plate for this guy lol https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52164566527_e87486fa84_b.jpg I have a P with an RMR and it's a tack driver but the window is still bothering me. I put over 5000 rounds through my X5 Legion with a DPP and I'm so much more used to the larger window. I'll give it more time but I might end up with a DPP on my P as well. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 1:13:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HAGDADDY]
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I finally broke down and joined the game. Picked up a Browe BMRc for my Hellcat Pro. Need to get to the range with it. Also have a Primary Arms SLX RS10 on the way for my Masada. Thinking about a Holoson SCS for my G45 MOS. Figured I might as well join the future and go all in. My eyes aren't getting any younger either.
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Posted: 7/15/2022 7:52:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/15/2022 8:00:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DukeFan23: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/280357/DB934B6C-1D18-48AF-87DA-0C8803BBE5FC_jpe-2454162.JPG i want to try the bottom one |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 8:09:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: @dukefan23 i want to try the bottom one Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Originally Posted By DukeFan23: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/280357/DB934B6C-1D18-48AF-87DA-0C8803BBE5FC_jpe-2454162.JPG i want to try the bottom one Yea, with the S15’s being gtg in my 48, it’s the reason I don’t carry the 19 much anymore. Love the setup. |
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Posted: 7/18/2022 8:05:06 AM EDT
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Going to try this dot thing out. After a bought with optic Nueritis and a little bit of damage to my right eye, making out the front sight is slightly less easy than it was before.
With an astigmatism red dots always looked like starburts. Going to see what the green ACSS is all about. Just playing around the house, I like it so far.  |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2022 7:25:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HAGDADDY: I finally broke down and joined the game. Picked up a Browe BMRc for my Hellcat Pro. Need to get to the range with it. Also have a Primary Arms SLX RS10 on the way for my Masada. Thinking about a Holoson SCS for my G45 MOS. Figured I might as well join the future and go all in. My eyes aren't getting any younger either. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231293/20220713_134514_jpg-2452232.JPG Interested in the Browe BMRc, looks like it will fit the Glock 43x/48 mos and Sig P365x/xl footprint without an adapter plate. Is the Browe USA made? |
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Posted: 7/18/2022 7:28:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bad2006z71: Going to try this dot thing out. After a bought with optic Nueritis and a little bit of damage to my right eye, making out the front sight is slightly less easy than it was before. With an astigmatism red dots always looked like starburts. Going to see what the green ACSS is all about. Just playing around the house, I like it so far. https://i.imgur.com/eurBxNJh.jpg Is the green dot crisper than red for you? |
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Posted: 7/18/2022 8:23:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dahawk76: Interested in the Browe BMRc, looks like it will fit the Glock 43x/48 mos and Sig P365x/xl footprint without an adapter plate. Is the Browe USA made? Best info I can find it "designed, sourced, and manufactured in the USA". |
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Posted: 7/18/2022 9:18:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeatBag: Is the green dot crisper than red for you? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeatBag: Originally Posted By bad2006z71: Going to try this dot thing out. After a bought with optic Nueritis and a little bit of damage to my right eye, making out the front sight is slightly less easy than it was before. With an astigmatism red dots always looked like starburts. Going to see what the green ACSS is all about. Just playing around the house, I like it so far. https://i.imgur.com/eurBxNJh.jpg Is the green dot crisper than red for you? Green fiber optic, though duller than before Optic nueritis, pops more than red for me. |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 7:05:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/19/2022 12:56:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tranquility]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee: We’ll I’m a believer. Took my 507c and got it sighted in, and saw a big difference in my group sizes…also realized how unsteady my hands are…. Oh well, still get all A shots at 25 yards. Yeah I thought my sight had some electronic disturbance affecting it or something so I laid it on the table and looked. Nope, just my shaky hands. |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 1:41:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Fooboy]
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Something I see in the GD threads arguing over the merits of RDS on pistol is the failure to account for the major benefits in speed/accuracy/mental processing when shooting a "dynamic" course of fire (moving+shooting with multiple targets and barricades, etc) vs something more vanilla (draw and fire at single target or array).
If you are just shooting for slowfire accuracy or draw and fire at cardboard at 10 yards, although your results will be better with a dot, a dot is not really a game changer here. When you start moving+shooting and engaging targets behind cover near and far, a RDS is a legit cheat code. Yeah, I can ping reduced C zone silhouettes at 50y with irons just the same as with a dot, but I'm much slower and do not call my shots as well. Benefits: Target focus Increased accuracy Faster Improved presentation and irons shooting Costs: $$$ A good, consistent presentation (<<< the main barrier to enlightenment) IYKYK |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 4:53:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Something I see in the GD threads arguing over the merits of RDS on pistol is the failure to account for the major benefits in speed/accuracy/mental processing when shooting a "dynamic" course of fire (moving+shooting with multiple targets and barricades, etc) vs something more vanilla (draw and fire at single target or array). If you are just shooting for slowfire accuracy or draw and fire at cardboard at 10 yards, although your results will be better with a dot, a dot is not really a game changer here. When you start moving+shooting and engaging targets behind cover near and far, a RDS is a legit cheat code. Yeah, I can ping reduced C zone silhouettes at 50y with irons just the same as with a dot, but I'm much slower and do not call my shots as well. Benefits: Target focus Increased accuracy Faster Improved presentation and irons shooting Costs: $$$ A good, consistent presentation (<<< the main barrier to enlightenment) IYKYK This! 100%! |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 4:56:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Something I see in the GD threads arguing over the merits of RDS on pistol is the failure to account for the major benefits in speed/accuracy/mental processing when shooting a "dynamic" course of fire (moving+shooting with multiple targets and barricades, etc) vs something more vanilla (draw and fire at single target or array). If you are just shooting for slowfire accuracy or draw and fire at cardboard at 10 yards, although your results will be better with a dot, a dot is not really a game changer here. When you start moving+shooting and engaging targets behind cover near and far, a RDS is a legit cheat code. Yeah, I can ping reduced C zone silhouettes at 50y with irons just the same as with a dot, but I'm much slower and do not call my shots as well. Benefits: Target focus Increased accuracy Faster Improved presentation and irons shooting Costs: $$$ A good, consistent presentation (<<< the main barrier to enlightenment) IYKYK Main reason I went with the ACSS Vulcan, helps me cheat at the presentation until I can really get it down every time. |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 7:56:55 PM EDT
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Got a chance to shoot the Hellcat Pro with the Browe BMRc today and the Masada with the Primary Arms SLX RS10. They were easy to zero and did not have any problems.
I am new to red dots on handguns so I dont much to compare them too but, it was fun. Was able to find the dot, get on target, and get rounds off pretty quick. I did notice how shaky my hands are Iike others have said. Wow. I don't notice that with the irons. But I'm looking forward to getting some more time with these. I'm also planning on getting a Holosun SCS for my G45 MOS. I also have a FN509 MRD LAPD model that I'm picking up tomorrow. Not sure what I'll mount on it but I may hold out for the new Eotec.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 8:24:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HAGDADDY: Got a chance to shoot the Hellcat Pro with the Browe BMRc today and the Masada with the Primary Arms SLX RS10. They were easy to zero and did not have any problems. I am new to red dots on handguns so I dont much to compare them too but, it was fun. Was able to find the dot, get on target, and get rounds off pretty quick. I did notice how shaky my hands are Iike others have said. Wow. I don't notice that with the irons. But I'm looking forward to getting some more time with these. I'm also planning on getting a Holosun SCS for my G45 MOS. I also have a FN509 MRD LAPD model that I'm picking up tomorrow. Not sure what I'll mount on it but I may hold out for the new Eotec. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231293/20220719_182955_jpg-2459225.JPG Report on the RS10 after you get a few rounds on it please |
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Posted: 7/23/2022 3:25:38 PM EDT
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