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7/20/2024 12:17:56 PM EDT
[#1]
If you're the type of person who modifies your guns anyway then start with the cheapest option in the Frame size you like.  If you just want an out of the box gun with more features get the Mac.

Mac is only available in commander length but has a proper length rail for most lights, bull barrel, adjustable over travel on the trigger, better sights, and an included mag funnel.  I personally don't like optics plates and prefer a direct to slide fit but the Mac is the way to go if you must use an RMR style optic.

I went with a DS9 carry because I wanted a commander frame but a threaded barrel and the barrels were available for a reasonable price from SDS.  If I had wanted a Govt. sized frame it would have been cheaper buying a DS9 NightStalker and I would have more features.
8/20/2024 11:25:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DVCER:


Someone will fix that in the future. The grip size reduction should be significant.
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We could have a 2011 that was identical to a 1911 in width, side profile and ergonomics.
8/21/2024 10:40:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Might hold out for a comp version (wishing).
NorCal callsign: Paladin

Bald headed knuckle dragger
8/25/2024 12:33:08 AM EDT
[#4]
I shot my Duty in USPSA for the first time today.  Had a few bobbles with factory mags with extended basepads.  No issues with the 17 round mags and a MBX mag.  I used a weapon light and the recoil is really mild.
9/2/2024 9:47:02 PM EDT
[#5]
Bought mine on impulse last week. I’ve only fired 1 box but certainly seems to be shooting low and left as others have said. Trigger was fair, about what was expected and I’m sure it will break in. And as others have experienced, the optic cut is too tight. Tried an EPS, 407k, Romeo X compact, and a Defender CCW. None would fit into the pocket. Send in a warranty claim.

At least it shoots easy and smooth.
9/5/2024 6:55:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By New2AR15s:

Reached out to Tisas CS on their website and mailed out the slide today to have them look at it. Hopefully turnaround isnt too bad Im itching to shoot this one
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Originally Posted By New2AR15s:
Originally Posted By New2AR15s:
Taking my first steps into the 2011 world. Picked up my MAC DS9 during lunch today.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/497583/1000010593-3268465.jpg

Feels a lot like my Tisas 1911s so far, disconnector is catching a bit, trigger is a bit stuff but overall feels okay. Ive replaced the sear spring on my others and some shooting has helped smooth things over.

Only disappointment I have so far is that the front sight is loose and literally falling out of the slide.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/497583/1000010594-3268469.jpg

I was hoping to oil it and go to the range for a few minutes after work but now Ill have to wait a while.




Has anyone had a loose front sight on these? Is there a pin that I am missing or something? The sight is very loose and can be moved by hand back and forth through the dovetail




@SDSimports

Reached out to Tisas CS on their website and mailed out the slide today to have them look at it. Hopefully turnaround isnt too bad Im itching to shoot this one

Got my slide back this week, oiled it and hit the range. 200rds without any malfunctions. So far so good. Based on my 1911s from Tisas the extractor will probably need some touch up after another range trip or so but the ejection is consistent enough for now

11/12/2024 9:31:22 PM EDT
[#7]
Any one know if there is a Safariland ALS holster that will fit the 9mm DS Night Stalker (full size with a threaded muzzle) with an optic and weapon light installed?
11/13/2024 12:25:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Wangstang:
Any one know if there is a Safariland ALS holster that will fit the 9mm DS Night Stalker (full size with a threaded muzzle) with an optic and weapon light installed?
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Second hand info, but ive heard that the ALS holster for a Staccato XC fits it.
12/10/2024 2:58:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Amped][Edited] [#9]
Before I pull the trigger on a holster. A stacatto P will work for these correct?

Also finally part of that “2011” gang gang
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Also not sure if I’m just lucky (or unlucky) but I had to modify my TLR1 to make it fit. I purchased the QVO key but when I installed the light it would sit on the rail crooked. From what I could tell this section in red had to be filed down. Attached File


Then tossed some blue on it and appears to fit nearly perfect and no longer leaning on the rail.
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12/10/2024 6:44:52 PM EDT
[#10]
What weight hammer and recoil springs are yall running?
1/2/2025 2:02:54 PM EDT
[#11]
Sample size of 1 but I just bought a Duty model right before Christmas. I just mounted an updated (refresh rate / 10m auto off) Vortex Defender CCW 3 moa dot. It dropped right in and with included shim plate required almost no adjustments to co witness with iron sights.

I do not have any other RMSC foot print optics to check the cut but defender fits great with no mods required.
1/9/2025 1:53:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
@SDSImports

I'd love a 5" with full length dustcover.

That 'slab' profile is to me the iconic 2011 look, and there is nothing available with a full length dustcover.

This frame could then be re-used for a Turk-XC model with integral comp, which would sell unlimited units.

https://i.ibb.co/7GyPHd0/turk-XC-please.jpg

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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
@SDSImports

I'd love a 5" with full length dustcover.

That 'slab' profile is to me the iconic 2011 look, and there is nothing available with a full length dustcover.

This frame could then be re-used for a Turk-XC model with integral comp, which would sell unlimited units.

https://i.ibb.co/7GyPHd0/turk-XC-please.jpg



MAC 9 DS Comp - $1079.99







Military Armament Corp (MAC) is pleased to introduce the MAC Duty 9 Double Stack. This newest 1911 offering from MAC designed in Knoxville, TN and is built to exacting standards by Tisas, with a new slide cut design. Built for any mission, the MAC Duty 9 Double Stack features a factory RMR pattern optic cut on the slide and universal light rail on the frame.

It also features a polymer grip module with a subtle yet firm grip texture. Chambered in 9mm, the MAC Duty 9 Double Stack utilizes a 5” bull barrel, that is QPQ Tenifer finished with an 11-degree target crown to keep recoil at a minimum and maximize accuracy.

In addition, the MAC Duty 9 Double Stack features:

4140 Hammer forged Steel Tenifer QPQ Coated slide
4140 Hammer Forged Steel Black Cerakote Frame and Barrel
Skeleton Hammer
Skeleton Trigger with Overtravel adjustment and 4.75 lbs +/- .25 lbs Trigger Weight
Competition Removable Aluminum Magwell – Black Cerekote
Fiber Optic Front Site and Black Serrated Rear Sight
Two Checkmate 17 round Magazines
Optics Plate system
Specs:

Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 5” Bull Barrel with 11 Degree Target Crown
Barrel Twist Rate: 1:10 RH – Button Rifled
OA length 8.8 inches
Weight 30 oz (empty)
Action Type: Single Action
Firing System: Hammer Fired
Capacity 17 Rounds
Safety: Manual Thumb safety and grip safety
MSRP: $1,099.99
The MAC 9 DSD Series pistols come standard with two magazines, cleaning kit, cable lock, an extra mainspring retainer pin, and premium lockable hard case.
1/9/2025 8:59:35 PM EDT
[#13]
Are they about to release a Glock mag compatible 2011 like Stealth and Staccato?
Originally Posted By JAD762:
I know. But a few posts above this there’s a perfect demonstration that people don’t want reality, they just want to be mad.

And angry retards always find something retarded to be angry about.
1/11/2025 2:41:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bcw107:
Are they about to release a Glock mag compatible 2011 like Stealth and Staccato?
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Fusion has a Turkish G17 fed 2011 but I know nothing of them and MAC has a lot of momentum going. A G17 fed 5” integral comp’d full rail 2011 for around $1,000 would be epic.

I’m really liking that full rail 5”. I might have to cave despite my hatred for 2011 magazine cost and function variance.
https://instagram.com/_odiegreen_?igshid=OGQ5ZDc2ODk2ZA==
1/12/2025 11:42:56 AM EDT
[#15]
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NorCal callsign: Paladin

Bald headed knuckle dragger
1/12/2025 12:05:55 PM EDT
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I don't know if the guns pic'ed here are full production samples or one off guns to showcase what's possible.  But it looks like at least some of the new MACs will have a trigger that's adjustable for length.  Also note the new square profile hammer.  It also looks like the optic plates are being switched from the unique MAC to the Springfield Prodigy AOS plates.
1/13/2025 2:51:08 PM EDT
[#17]
The DS Nighstalker is on sale at PSA for $599
https://palmettostatearmory.com/tisas-1911-night-stalker-ds-or-9mm-5-17rd-pistol-platinum-grey-cerakote-12500006.html
1/14/2025 12:10:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Wangstang][Edited] [#18]
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Originally Posted By NostalgiaforInfinity:
The DS Nighstalker is on sale at PSA for $599
https://palmettostatearmory.com/tisas-1911-night-stalker-ds-or-9mm-5-17rd-pistol-platinum-grey-cerakote-12500006.html
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I ordered one of these from DACK and finally picked it up after new years, in part because of their slow order fulfillment and because of some of my own delays. The price was about the same based on a sale they ran and free shipping they had for 24 hours.

These have most of the features of the upcoming MAC's, such as the dust cover rail is longer than the other Tisas offerings and it had the wider spaced striations. It is RMSc cut which means the rear sight is direct slide mounted vs the MAC where the rear sight attaches to the optic plate, and the cut is low enough that you should be able to cowitness with your red dot and not have to swap the sights. It doesn't have a ported comp, but if you have a pistol suppressor already, this appears to be a great model to consider.

I haven't made it to the range yet, but if you are in the market for one of these, and you like the look of the features, now's the time, they've been hovering close to $750 95% of the time since it would be reasonable to think the MAC and 2025 Tisas models have been in the works. Once they get the 2024 NS inventory cleared out, I'd guess pricing will hover back into the $750-1000 range with the new models.
1/18/2025 12:23:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NostalgiaforInfinity:
The DS Nighstalker is on sale at PSA for $599
https://palmettostatearmory.com/tisas-1911-night-stalker-ds-or-9mm-5-17rd-pistol-platinum-grey-cerakote-12500006.html
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Wow!
1/20/2025 2:35:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: imq707s][Edited] [#20]
So when looking for a holster for my new Tisas Duty DS 9mm....what Staccato model matches it as far as frame/barrel size?  Seems like most holster manufactures list several different models of Staccato holders....but none for the Tisas.   Would it be the P model?

Any help would be great! Thanks
1/20/2025 3:12:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By imq707s:
So when looking for a holster for my new Tisas Duty DS 9mm....what Staccato model matches it as far as frame/barrel size?  Seems like most holster manufactures list several different models of Staccato holders....but none for the Tisas.   Would it be the P model?

Any help would be great! Thanks
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The 5" Tisas *should* fit in an XC holster.
1/20/2025 5:14:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By imq707s:
So when looking for a holster for my new Tisas Duty DS 9mm....what Staccato model matches it as far as frame/barrel size?  Seems like most holster manufactures list several different models of Staccato holders....but none for the Tisas.   Would it be the P model?

Any help would be great! Thanks
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It's the XC holster.  I have a Safariland for XC and it fits perfectly.

And for the Carry DS, you want a P sized holster.
1/20/2025 11:55:34 PM EDT
[#23]
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Originally Posted By Bravo_Six:


It's the XC holster.  I have a Safariland for XC and it fits perfectly.

And for the Carry DS, you want a P sized holster.
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Originally Posted By imq707s:
So when looking for a holster for my new Tisas Duty DS 9mm....what Staccato model matches it as far as frame/barrel size?  Seems like most holster manufactures list several different models of Staccato holders....but none for the Tisas.   Would it be the P model?

Any help would be great! Thanks


It's the XC holster.  I have a Safariland for XC and it fits perfectly.

And for the Carry DS, you want a P sized holster.



Thanks!! What exact model of safariland did you go with?
1/22/2025 1:22:23 PM EDT
[#24]
Not a bad price for the MAC DS

https://lockedloaded.com/product-details?id=1044039
1/22/2025 11:38:24 PM EDT
[#25]
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Thanks!! What exact model of safariland did you go with?
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Originally Posted By Bravo_Six:
Originally Posted By imq707s:
So when looking for a holster for my new Tisas Duty DS 9mm....what Staccato model matches it as far as frame/barrel size?  Seems like most holster manufactures list several different models of Staccato holders....but none for the Tisas.   Would it be the P model?

Any help would be great! Thanks


It's the XC holster.  I have a Safariland for XC and it fits perfectly.

And for the Carry DS, you want a P sized holster.



Thanks!! What exact model of safariland did you go with?



@imq707s


6354RDSO - ALS® Holster w/ QLS19 Fork ×  1
Material: Hardshell STX
Finish: Cordura®
Draw Hand: Right
Color: MultiCam®
Optic: Large Enclosed Emitters Similar to Aimpoint ACRO
Light: Streamlight TLR-1
Firearm: Staccato XC (5" Barrel Length, 9x19mm Parabellum Caliber)
Part: 6354RDSO-2582-701-MS19
Model: 6354RDSO
SKU: 1335133
Options: 23925
1/26/2025 4:36:58 PM EDT
[#26]
Took my Tisas double stack full size out to the range finally.  Shot about 300rounds of mixed ammo, 147 federal, a bunch of 124 and about 30 rounds of IMI 124+p.  About 5 stove pipes with all that.  Definitely shoots low left.  Probably gonna look for a Holosun dot for the slide.  Attached File
1/26/2025 5:19:55 PM EDT
[#27]
Been wanting to dip my toes into the 2011 game, so now I’m debating between the new MAC or Tisas DS once they drop. Heard great things about the current offerings, so hopefully the 2nd Gen retains that same quality.
slowly dying of entropy
2/1/2025 10:24:38 PM EDT
[#28]
MAC version on sale @ PSA
NorCal callsign: Paladin

Bald headed knuckle dragger
2/1/2025 10:38:06 PM EDT
[#29]
Do any of the tisas or Mac come with a threaded barrel?
"Life is Hard, its Harder if You're Stupid" - John Wayne
2/1/2025 10:41:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By laxman09:
Do any of the tisas or Mac come with a threaded barrel?
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Yeah the nightstalker does
https://palmettostatearmory.com/tisas-1911-night-stalker-ds-or-9mm-5-17rd-pistol-platinum-grey-cerakote-12500006.html
2/1/2025 10:48:15 PM EDT
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Thanks. The short dust cover isn't for me though. Hopefully they come out with an updated version this year.
"Life is Hard, its Harder if You're Stupid" - John Wayne
2/2/2025 7:26:50 AM EDT
[#32]
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Originally Posted By laxman09:
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The threaded barrel SDS sells dropped right into mine with no fitting required.
2/2/2025 8:24:14 AM EDT
[#33]
I want one of these but will hold out for a bit to see if PSA comes through with their Sabre-11.  I want to go with an American manufacturer if I can afford it and this is going to be my likely option.  

Damn this Tisas it tempting.
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2/2/2025 10:30:41 AM EDT
[#34]
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The threaded barrel SDS sells dropped right into mine with no fitting required.
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Originally Posted By laxman09:
Do any of the tisas or Mac come with a threaded barrel?



The threaded barrel SDS sells dropped right into mine with no fitting required.


Same with mine.
2/3/2025 9:51:10 AM EDT
[#35]
Cross posting from a GD thread.

I bought the Duty 5" DS for the price and to also test out the platform. Occasionally I shoot comps here and there with my Zev OZ9 (G34) but I'm not super into it, maybe a match once every couple months.  So I was just curious as to how I would shoot with a different platform, hence the 2011.

I enjoy working on my stuff so if I had to do some tweaks that wouldn't bother me, as I was probably going to upgrade things anyway. Right out of the box the trigger pull was 6 lbs.  It didn't really feel 6 lbs and was smooth-ish, lots of play up and down, decent amount of take up, functional I guess. First range trip I had failure to feeds every other round.  The first couple mags ran ok with an occasional FTF, then the FTF increased to every other round.  You could feel the slide was sluggish and slow.  Tracked that issue down to an extractor with an increadible amount of tension.  So much tension I could barely spring the claw back to get it through the channel to remove it.  Adjusted the tension and it still had failures to feed, just not as many.  I replaced the extractor with one from WIlson and it ran great.  No FTF, gun functioned like it shuold.

I then installed a Red Dirt ST trigger, Brazos Tuned Trigger Group (hammer, hammer spring, hammer strut, sear, sear spring and disconnector) and EGW barrel bushing.  This thing is insane.  Trigger pull is 2.25 lbs and is so crisp it hurts your ears when you dry fire.  I didn't have to adjust any spring tension or anything, everything dropped in.  Took it to the range and it ran like a top.  I did change out the recoil spring for a lighter one but it didn't like that so I put the stock one back in and it ran another 15 mags just fine.  Standing 10 round 25 yard groups are abut 4.5" or so but I should be able to tighten that up.  Splits are in the .18 range, so I'm not used to that trigger enough to take advantage of it yet.

I put a Vortex Defender ccw on it and for just under $1k it's a damn fine shooting gun, which is pretty much exactly what I wanted.
2/3/2025 10:15:01 AM EDT
[#36]


2/3/2025 10:16:02 AM EDT
[#37]
These things are like a level up from an AR now.
2/7/2025 11:01:07 AM EDT
[#38]
I was looking at the Springfield Prodigy but the B9R DS keeps popping up. The price point on these are really good. Sub 600 is hard to beat.
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2/7/2025 2:14:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX:
I was looking at the Springfield Prodigy but the B9R DS keeps popping up. The price point on these are really good. Sub 600 is hard to beat.
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I went with the Prodigy.
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2/7/2025 3:32:17 PM EDT
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The threaded barrel SDS sells dropped right into mine with no fitting required.
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Got a link? I am Googling it. Found.

2/7/2025 3:35:05 PM EDT
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Got a link? I am Googling it.
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DUTY
CARRY

Note, those don't work in the MAC model, just the Tisas ones with the traditional barrel bushing setup.
2/7/2025 3:49:50 PM EDT
[#42]
Sportsmans Outdoor has the Duty on sale for $499.99 shipped.
2/8/2025 3:42:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TOTHEMAX][Edited] [#43]
Well I bought a br9 ds from Vance outdoors. 525 shipped.

Now I need to find a red dot.
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2/10/2025 7:24:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ARhabit:


Got a link? I am Googling it. Found.

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Originally Posted By ARhabit:
Originally Posted By FJB247:



The threaded barrel SDS sells dropped right into mine with no fitting required.


Got a link? I am Googling it. Found.


@ARhabit

I listed a trade for a 9mm threaded barrel. If you have a non threaded, I am looking for one.
2/10/2025 8:03:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX:
Well I bought a br9 ds from Vance outdoors. 525 shipped.

Now I need to find a red dot.
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I just put a Holosun 407k on my Tisas Duty DS.... works great!!
2/10/2025 8:53:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By imq707s:


I just put a Holosun 407k on my Tisas Duty DS.... works great!!
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Originally Posted By imq707s:
Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX:
Well I bought a br9 ds from Vance outdoors. 525 shipped.

Now I need to find a red dot.


I just put a Holosun 407k on my Tisas Duty DS.... works great!!


I was looking at the holosun 507k or the eps.
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2/10/2025 8:15:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Wangstang][Edited] [#47]
This enclosed option is made in the Philippines by an established company:
https://www.meprolight.com/product/mepro-mpo-pro-s/

You can find it online for $170-180 shipped if you use a site like Gun.deals.

I personally like that it uses a mounting plate with a cross bolt on the optic and the easy to access battery tray, in addition to not being made in China or by a China owned company.

2/10/2025 10:31:57 PM EDT
[#48]
Where are you guys buying extra mags?
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2/10/2025 10:45:04 PM EDT
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The Springfield Prodigy mags are probably the best deal price wise:

https://gunmagwarehouse.com/springfield-armory-1911-double-stack-prodigy-9mm-17-round-magazine.html

Otherwise these are the same as the Tisas OEM mags it comes with:

https://gunmagwarehouse.com/check-mate-2011-9mm-17-round-126mm-magazine.html

https://gregcotellc.com/cart/checkmate-2011-2311-1911-gi-c-216/checkmate-staccato-style-2011-springfield-prodigy-1911-ds-lfa-apollo-11-full-size-tisas-double-stack-eaa-girsan-witness-2311-jacob-grey-twc-9-more-17-rd-9mm-126mm-long-cm92011126s-p-2480.html
2/10/2025 11:01:39 PM EDT
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Thank you
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