The governor, 75% of the state house GOP, 75% of the state senate GOP, and DeSantis' choice for Lt. Governor all supported SB7026.  If we throw all the bums out, then we will have Gillum as governor, the dems will control the state house and senate, a leftist will get another 6 years in the senate, and the GOP will lose 5-7 US House seats during redistricting.  Surely you understand the ramifications of this at the national level and the state level.

As others have said, the right thing to do was to defeat a few of the state reps and senators during the primaries.  A concentrated effort in 3 or 4 districts would have sent a loud message.  That didn't happen, and throwing away a US Senate race and/or other races isn't going to accomplish anything good.

At the federal level, the number #1 RKBA priority should be getting Constitutionalists put on the bench.  If we lose the Senate, then that comes to a screeching halt.  #2 priority should be passing pro-RKBA federal legislation.  We need a GOP President, House and Senate to do that.  Like Trump said, we need more Republicans.

At the state level, I'd like to see us move towards Constitutional carry.  If DeSantis wins, and we keep the state house and senate, I think things will slowly move in that direction.

Ironically, by voting against Scott, you are simultaneously sinking any national pro-RKBA initiatives.

Don't be such a defeatist.  Past midterm waves under Clinton, Bush, and Obama were because they lied shortly after taking office, and presided over disasters such as Iraq and Obamacare.

Trump has kept his promises, hasn't made any big mistakes, and the economy is strong.

There is the potential for the GOP to pick up many senate seats, but every seat is important.

We have a great opportunity to defeat an incumbent leftist senator in a "swing" state.  Those chances don't come along very often, so it is good to take them when they do.

Trump has asked you to vote for Scott, and you told the President to "pound sand".  And you want to talk about "patriots"?

Without the half-dozen or so RINOs in the Senate right now, Schumer would be running the show, and the Supreme Court would be 4-3 in the liberal's favor with Schumer holding those seats for the next dem president.  Or Trump would cut a deal with Schumer to appoint 1 conservative judge and 1 liberal judge.  Then you clowns would be criticizing Trump for being a RINO because of the problem you helped create.

If you want to dilute the vote of the RINOs, the solution is to increase the number of Republicans in the Senate.  Electing 7 conservative senators and 2 RINOs is better than electing 0 conservatives and 0 RINOs.

Simple facts.  We don't have to like it, but that is the way it is.  Trump is trying to fix things, but he needs help in the way of more Republicans.

Sir, you are making way to much sense for small minded people. MAGA all the way. Bigger fish to fry.

There are no bigger fish to fry than our Florida gun rights for folks who don't want to see our state become another California/New York/New Jersey ban state.

Think it can't happen; then you're delusional because with one stroke of Scott's pen, Florida is no longer The Gunshine State anymore and he both energized, and swung the the political momentum to the gun grabbers.

So he could include the grabbers in his political base, and yet, some "deep thinkers" believe it's okay for him to retain our support.

What message does that send to the remaining Republican legislators in the state?

"Bigger fish to fry"?

We're the fish who are going to be fried.

"Chess not checkers" and laying down with dogs is how we become another  California.

When your own house is on fire, your own efforts need to be entirely directed towards putting out that fire; before worrying about any "Bigger Picture" down the road somewhere.

You should change your user name to "Florida-first".
Edit: misspelling

Penny wise, pound foolish.

The "Gunshine state" led the way with concealed carry 30 years ago, but hasn't done much since.  Many other states have leapfrogged us, and 14 or so now have constitutional carry.  Not Florida.  We have 2 million CCW holders, and have had a GOP house, senate, and governor for the last decade.  And in the last 5 years, the only good thing they have done (with regards to the RKBA) has been reduce the CCW fee by $5.

That's not their fault, that is *our* fault for not having a pro-active and effective state RKBA organization to lobby on our behalf.  Shame on us.

SB7026 was the culmination of this failure.  A tragic mass shooting.  A politically ambitious governor running for Senate. State senate and house leaders that were pro-RKBA in word only, and who have suppressed open carry for years.  Intense media pressure.  An NRA that had already backed down on bump stocks after Las Vegas.  And a non-existent statewide RKBA lobbying/activist group.  Again, shame on us.

The only way to prevent Florida from becoming another Kalifornia is to elect strong conservatives.  We have a great opportunity in DeSantis.

If that fails, and there are some who think we are doomed anyway to become another Kalifornia because of demographics, the last resort is to the have Supreme Court rule those gun laws unconstitutional.

We probably have a 5-4 majority after Kavanaugh is confirmed, but that is cutting it too close for comfort.  Also, the court could easily flip to 5-4 liberal or worse, if the dems win the Senate and white house in 2020.

We need to press our advantage while we can, and vote to keep the Senate Republican if for no other reason than to confirm Trump's nominees to the Supreme Court.  Many people think Thomas will retire next year, and two other justices are over 80 years old.  If the dems retake the Senate, they will simply hold those nominees until after the 2020 election, which even if Trump is re-elected, the dems will still control the Senate, so he will have to cut a deal with them.

I don't claim to be a "deep thinker", just not an idiot.  The choice is obvious: Scott will vote for Trump's nominees.  Nelson will vote against them.

You should ask Aimless what happens in your state when you elect pandering, gun grabbing Republicans.

I feel your pain and anger. I felt it at first, then I cooled down and thought clearly. Our bumpstock ban and age limits can be fixed, securing surpreme court nominations are the most important matters we face now.

Demonstrating to the Republican politicians in our state like Rick Scott and Brian ("ban all semi automatic rifles") Mast, that they can betray us to the gun grabbers to pick up votes without the cost of our own, is a one way street to becoming a ban state.

Losing the 18-21 year old gun buying demographic is a huge blow to the gun culture in Florida and has probably already set us down that path.

Nothing will be fixed unless we show them some spine and kick them to the curb when they infringe on our 2nd amendment rights.

Neville Chamberlain, Field Marshal Petain, and Vidkun Quisling all had supporters who urged folks to support them because the alternative was worse.

The fact is; history has proven that there was no worse alternative.

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Vote for him then....

Vote for him then:



"Rep. Brian Mast’s conversion to gun-control advocate began next to a pool as he tried to find solace during last week’s congressional recess. The Florida Republican’s children were playing with dozens of other kids, but Mast could not stop thinking about the 17 students and faculty killed at a high school in his former home, Parkland. One of them, the assistant football coach, was a friend.........

That’s when Mast started thinking, for the first time in his brief political career, about how federal gun laws should change. A few days later, he published a column in the New York Times declaring his support for a ban on “assault or tactical” firearms; a requirement for background checks on all gun purchases, including online and private sales; and a ban on accessories such as “bump stocks,” which allow guns to simulate the rapid fire of fully automatic weapons......"

Read the entire damned thing:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/how-one-florida-republican-came-to-support-a-ban-on-assault-weapons-after-the-parkland-shooting/2018/02/27/ce2693c8-1b59-11e8-ae5a-16e60e4605f3_story.html?utm_term=.aa614eeba1c4

Matt Gaetz is my rep in district 1. What does  Brian Mast have to do with the senate race between Scott and Nelson? We don't have anti gun republican  representatives in the panhandle. I assure you I would not vote for anyone who calls for bans on guns though... Show me where Scott wants to ban guns.

As repulsive Governor Scott is, I will vote for his putrid excuse for being a conservative politician. The law of unintended consequences can not be ignored. So there for I will hold my nose and vote for Scott.

My husband said your husband said you have no real argument because Nelson admits he wants to ban ar15's  and high capacity mags....

My wife can whip both your husbands.  

LOL

Scott has my vote. Dont  Waste your time on me. My mind is made up.

I give up, I’m voting for Scott.

Nelson has been pissing me off for far too long, I’m not passing on the chance to send him packing, once and for all. There’s too much at stake here.  If the socialist revolution were not in overdrive right now, I’d be more inclined to stand on principle, but the swamp is sooooooo deeeeeep the best chance we’ve had to clean it up (or even just expose its depths and players) is Trump. He needs every last vote in Senate, and even if we see a red wave (which I think might be likely), the LEFT is who needs to get the message that we aren’t putting up with their communist bullshit anymore.

As for sending a message to state RINOS, I tried in the primaries, and by the numbers, my efforts were insignificant. Maybe I’ll just send a nasty letter to all those who voted SB 7026 letting them know that I didn’t really vote FOR them, just AGAINST the commies, and they better get in line or we’ll mount a recall. That’ll teach ‘em.

We’re over a barrel and they know it. All we can do is shore up the Courts while we have the chance, so when the cards are finally played, some corrupt politicians are made examples of and hopefully see the inside of a cell.

That’s our only chance of getting their attention, as I see it.

I'm voting for Scott.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-tampa/florida-governor-rejects-republican-convention-gun-ban-idUSBRE8411E320120503

Tallahassee, Florida (Reuters) - Florida Governor Rick Scott has rejected a request by Tampa’s mayor to allow local authorities to ban guns from the city’s downtown during the Republican National Convention in August.

https://www.tbo.com/ap/politics/scott-rejects-tampas-request-to-ban-guns-during-rnc-399033

TAMPA - Gov. Rick Scott was quick to deny Mayor Bob Buckhorn's request to bend the state's guns laws so Tampa could regulate concealed weapons downtown during the Republican National Convention...In a letter dated May 1 – the same day Buckhorn sent his letter to Tallahassee – Scott said he won't do what the mayor asked. "The short answer to your request is found in the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and in Article 1, Section 8 of the Florida Constitution," Scott replied. Both sections guarantee citizens' rights to keep and bear guns, he noted.

The two post above are great!  Well done gentlemen!!

Lol

Nothing ever changes.  RINO's like Scott keep compromising conservative principles, and Republicans keep voting for them because they are the lessor of two shit sandwiches.  Then Republicans complain when their Constitutional rights are given away one slice at a time.  Nobody is willing to stand on a few basic principles, and risk anything at all.  Sorry folks, I haven't heard any arguments that contradict this, I'm still leaving the Florida senate race part of the ballet blank.

As I've stated before, I'm will not compromise my core principles ever again.  We will never have people representing us with the same belief until we take a stand, and risk something.  Frankly, I'd rather lose quick, then lose slowly over time.  The long path will never afford any serious resistance.

No shit , I thought the same thing before scrolling down to see your post.  Get over it Florida First !

And you think the Democrats won't bend us over the barrel the first chance they get!  As someone said above, we can fix state gun laws.  We can only fix the SC with a R President and Senate.

Dicky Scott is going to be the next "Maverick" no F-ing way will I vote for him.   I won't vote for the other guy either, I'll vote GOP ticket minus Dicky.

He screwed gunowners who were faithful voters, threw us under the bus then kissed up to the Puerto Ricans, encouraging the mass exodus into FL after last years hurricane.  He can go have intercourse with himself.

After the Pulse Rick Scott stated the following.

"This isn't about the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment has been around for more than 200 years. People kill innocent people. Let's have a conversation about how we destroy ISIS. The Second Amendment didn't kill anybody; this is ISIS."

And much like Parkland, multiple agencies were aware of the shooter and took no action. But Scott defended the 2nd Amendment then. After Parkland, Scott threw FL Gun Owners under the bus for political expediency since it is an election year and he is running for Senate. His actions and that of the FL GOP showed their true colors.

The FL GOP itself is anti gun.

The same Boricua that have been instructed to vote Democrat by the Governor of Puerto Rico? LOL

Puerto Rico Gov. in Florida: Turn 'outrage' over hurricane response into votes

Marco Rubio is no tax hero: Puerto Rico's governor vows revenge for unequal treatment in GOP bill

Governor of Puerto Rico Promises Revenge for Republican Betrayal

Puerto Rico governor vows midterm revenge for tax bill

Puerto Rico governor vows to make Florida Republicans pay for supporting tax bill

Poll of Puerto Ricans in Florida has good news for Dems  and for Gov. Scott



As for the FL GOP supporting Trump?

Florida's GOP candidate for governor wants nothing to do with Trump's Puerto Rico conspiracy

Florida Republicans create distance with Trump on Puerto Rico

Trump complicates Florida GOP's play for Puerto Rican voters

GOP consultant's bottom line on Puerto Rico death count: Puerto Ricans don't vote Republican.

Rick Scott is getting Boricua Support and that's it. The rest of the FL GOP is getting nothing.

With the migration, the 2020 Census will redistrict the Florida Legislature to favor more Democrats.

We are on death's bed and wasting away.

Marion Hammer blocked any other Pro Gun Organization from having a say lobbying in the Legislature. I know... I was there and saw it with my own eyes. Secondly, the FL GOP was backed by Marion Hammer and backed their own pro gun bill blockers. It was the Speaker of the House and Senate President that appointed who sat in what committees and where bills were to go. Amazingly, since 2010, every pro gun bill for expanded has been killed by Republicans in majority Republican Committees.

Well as a 4th generation Floridian, What does that say to you Mr Hispanic Police officer, I told you 4 years ago you would Never have open Carry or Campus Carry in this state, Now I am telling all you that vote Democrat or leave the line blank, Start Now to Tallahassee and surrender all your guns, semi auto, not just ar15 to a Black Obama type Governor and a White Senator with outstretched arms, and wear a button saying you helped destroy the 2nd amendment in Florida

Ronald Reagan was for assault weapon ban

George Bush said he would sign a assault weapons ban if put on his desk

Only President in over 50 years that has said he would not sign assault weapons ban or a semi auto ban, President Trump, vote to send him all the help he needs

By the way , concerning all those links you posted, We already know the vast majority of Puerto Ricans will voted for who ever gives them something for Free.

How much research did you put into this comment?

From Trump's 2000 book, "The America We Deserve," in which Trump wrote: "I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun."

You are a total neophyte, you are referencing an 18 year old book when Trump was a Democrat, how about his statements against any and all control NOW 18 years later, why do you not reference his speeches at the NRA Conventions, No you are an internet idiot, he has stated repeatedly he is against any and all gun control, you must have been in your basement the last 2 years or that joke of a gun shop, but you are a Liberal and most likely from south florida

He was not the President in 2000 , try to keep current newbie with his Current position, or maybe you are just a liberal troll gun owner playing weekend warrior

Sorry your girl lost.... Maybe yall can keep Nelson in there....

You are really being hysterical if you think Scott is going to the next you-know-who.

The latter went on Sunday shows every weekend and bashed Trump.  The former was a very early supporter of Trump in 2016, before it was popular or expedient to do so.

Scott will vote with Trump 90% of the time (and 100% of the time on judges).  He will be more conservative than Rubio.

The folks from Puerto Rico had to go somewhere, and they are US citizens, unlike the hordes invading from the south.  I have no problem with Scott or anyone else helping them.

BTW, you might as well not vote for DeSantis either, since he picked a Lt. Gov. who voted for SB7026 in the state house.

Chuck Schumer appreciates your help in making him majority leader!

Yet, the GOP is up a net 35,000 over the dems in voter registration in the last year.

We also have a chance to have two Republican Senators for the first time since 1875.

A citizenship question will be on the 2020 Census, unless the dems retake Congress and force Trump to "compromise" to remove it.  As such, I expect a lot of surprises in that census.....

Yeah, the state GOP really hasn't done much for the RKBA lately here in Florida.  Since being the first state to do CCW, they have been leapfrogged by many other states.  I think 14 or so states now have constitutional carry.  The only thing the Republicans have done recently in Florida is reduce the CCW by $5 or something.

The state GOP needs better elected officials.  If elected, DeSantis will be the most pro-RKBA governor we have had in decades.  And there are many good state reps running for the first time who opposed SB7026.  It takes time to change things....

The real fight now is at the national level.  Scott in the Senate means Trump has another reliable vote to confirm judges to the Supreme Court.  If we lose the Senate, the dems won't allow any nominations to come up for a vote.

+1000.

We have a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to tilt the Supreme Court back to interpreting the Constitution, because of the following:

1) Conservative President who has already made two great picks.  The last Republicans presidents made some good selections, but also had some horrible ones (Souter)

2) Republican Senate

3) Two leftist judges that are over 80 years old, and a third that isn't in great health

4) A conservative judge who is 70 and probably wants to retire, as he is the longest serving justice on the Court

Opportunity only knocks once, and I don't think people understand how rare the concurrence of all these events are.

If the GOP keeps the Senate, Trump will likely get at least 1, and possibly even 3 more Supreme Court selections before his first term ends.  If the dems take the Senate, he gets zero.

How anybody who claims to be a conservative or pro-RKBA is even considering not voting for Scott is baffling.  It is almost like they want to lose just to have something to complain about.....

Ok Grandpa, just wait till they take the guns first and do due process later, I love to take the guns first and do due process later.

Desantis is already stepping away from Trump in regards the influx of Puerto Ricans. And so is Scott.

If you truly believe that Rick Scott is not a fairweather politician. I got news for you. Marco Rubio was to be the TEA Party darling. A champion of American Conservatism and Small Government Ideals. Rick Scott is much the same way.

They all are, it is just who is the lesser of two evils, for gun owners it is the Dems