Eigel held a rally in JC today. My aunt went, told me there were about 15 people there and she left an hour after it was supposed to start and he hadn’t shown up yet

JC = Jefferson City?

That is disappointing that he didn't show.  Hope he explains that.

Yeah, Jefferson City. He may have showed, she just wasn’t waiting any longer

I honestly don’t like any of them

Ashcroft=swamp
Kehoe= I don’t like is china stuff and he has a rhino vibe to me
Engel= just seems slimy, I don’t have a good read on him just first impressions not I’m pressed

So who is the best of the worst?

A list of these “worst offenders” would be great to have (for reference).

I’m at a campground with poor internet right now. I’ll try to respond this weekend. Watch this space.

ETA:
Current worst offenders who will be gone after this year: Bill Eigel, Denny Hoskins
Worst offender who will be around awhile longer: Rick Brattin (assuming he wins his primary -- personally, I doubt Brattin has the smarts to be effective without Eigel leading him)
Also disruptive, but in his own way/not necessarily aligned with the Eigel wing: Mike Moon (also up for reelection)
Not necessarily disruptive yet, but possibly waiting in the wings to take up the mantle: Nick Schroer and Ben Brown (I'd look for these two to be the "elders" of any future chaos caucus)
Former worst offender out of office but still making noise: Bob Onder.

The Annie Frye youtube poll today is "who are you voting for in MO Governor's race":

1 1/2 hours into her 3 hour show with 159 votes the standings are:

Ashcroft  13%
Eigel       48%
Kehoe     12%
27%  someone else or don't live in MO

If you don't want to invest the 18 minutes, there is a summary at the end.

If you want to play the summary Missouri Firearms Coallition chose Eigel

@deuskid
Who is Marc Cox and why should we listen to him?  Earnest question. Thanks!

@Bladeswitcher
Who is MissouriNet and why should we listen to them?  Thank you.

Seriously looking for good guidance here. Appreciate everyone’s input.

Missourinet is mainstream journalism. Probably the largest radio network in the state. If you listen to MU sports on the radio or tune in the farm reports it’s probably on a MissouriNet station (Learfield/Brownfield network).

How they describe themselves:

“The Missourinet is a division of Learfield News (www.learfieldnews.com). The first of Learfield's News networks, Missourinet provides state news and sports to more than 60 affiliate radio stations throughout Missouri. Missourinet has a staff of 5 full time reporters and utilizes stringers across the state to keep you up to date on the latest news from the Show-Me State. We have several sister networks including: Nebraska Radio Network, Radio Iowa, Wisconsin Radio Network, SportsTalk Radio Network, South Carolina Radio Network and Brownfield”

Thank you for that explanation

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@MidwestJ

Marc Cox is a conservative talk show host on 97.1 here in the STL area.  Pro 2A and all things truly conservative [not necessarily republican].

BTW, I have a couple of friends on the St Charles County Republican central committee and his slate was identical to theirs for all candidates about the county level [he lives in St Louis County]

Thank you!

Eigel on real Americas voice says he will detain  and deport illegal immigrants on the  Grant Stinchfield show.  
Not sure who is best for us yet.

As Governor-would he have the legal authority to do that?

Have illegals arrested? Sure.  They’re here illegally.

But deport them from the USA?  How?

At least deport them from the State of Missouri?

Which I’d be cool with.  

As elections approach former (and once disgraced) politician Jeff Smith often pens a column comparing the race to a game of Texas Hold Em. I'm not a poker player so I find his schtick a bit strained, but he usually offers some good insight. In this column he looks at the final days of the Missouri governor's primary.

Be warned, the column is all about political strategy and fundraising. It's not about who SHOULD win. It's more about who WILL win.

https://missouriindependent.com/2024/07/31/missouris-gop-gubernatorial-primary-as-a-hand-of-texas-hold-em-part-three-the-river/

My summary from that:

No one will get 51%+

Kehoe's path to victory is ensuring Eigil and Ashcroft stay equal and just below him.

Eigil and Ashcroft's path to victory is to take the overwhelming number of "Not Kehoe" votes, because a near even split means Kehoe gets the win.

The large undecided block suggests it's possible for any of the three to win. I don't think it will play out that way. I suspect Eigel has hit his ceiling or nearly so. My guess is that undecided voters have largely not been paying attention and will decide in the next 48+ hours. If that's the case, it's going to come down to name recognition.

Remember "The Distinguished Gentleman" movie from the 90s?  The longtime incumbent congressman dies shortly before the election and Eddie Murphy's character has the same name......so he gets all of that guy's yard signs & materials and runs on "The name you know, the name you trust."

Every nation (or state) gets the government it deserves.

Joseph de Maistre

True

That is why I'm leading small groups [currently of men at my church] in an 8 session on Biblical Citizenship and 10 week session on the Constitution.  

My 3rd time through and still learning as I lead.  Real eye-opener for 1st timers.  

These classes are free and created by Patriots Academy, it is an offshoot of Wallbuillders.  

It took several generations to get where we are and it'll take at least as long to reverse this [if possible].  I'm doing something for my grandkids and their grandkids.

I don't think Maistre was a big fan of any kind of democratic process. My understanding is that he favored authoritarian rule by a king or the Pope. His most famous quote is still apt, though.

For those of you concerned about foreign ownership of farmland, this article gives a good overview of the situation:

How much Missouri farmland does China own?

I read that all three have a plan to eliminate the state income tax, take money from the conservation and transportation tax, and place it in general revenue. Is this true? Is this possible? If true who would be the best choice to get it done?

Shifting conservation or transportation funds to general revenue would require a constitutional change. The people would have to vote for it. BTW, the governor doesn't have the authority to put that question on the ballot. It could only happen through a legislative resolution or a citizen-led initiative petition.

Tks

Thanks for that. Eigle seems like the logical choice. However, I don't care for his book burning commercial. Reminds me of Hitler.
He will probably get my vote though.

Wait.  Wut?

The conservation sales tax is constitutionally protected?

Count that as something I didn't know.

(I've bolded the part that limits the use of the Conservation sales tax money)

https://revisor.mo.gov/main/OneSection.aspx?section=IV+++43

IV Section 43(b).  Use of revenue and funds of conservation commission. — The moneys arising from the additional sales and use taxes provided for in section 43(a) hereof and all fees, moneys or funds arising from the operation and transactions of the conservation commission, department of conservation, and from the application and the administration of the laws and regulations pertaining to the bird, fish, game, forestry and wildlife resources of the state and from the sale of property used for said purposes, shall be expended and used by the conservation commission, department of conservation, for the control, management, restoration, conservation and regulation of the bird, fish, game, forestry and wildlife resources of the state, including the purchase or other acquisition of property for said purposes, and for the administration of the laws pertaining thereto, and for no other purpose. The moneys and funds of the conservation commission arising from the additional sales and use taxes provided for in 43(a) hereof shall also be used by the conservation commission, department of conservation, to make payments to counties for the unimproved value of land for distribution to the appropriate political subdivisions as payment in lieu of real property taxes for privately owned land acquired by the commission after July 1, 1977 and for land classified as forest cropland in the forest cropland program administered by the department of conservation in such amounts as may be determined by the conservation commission, but in no event shall the amount determined be less than the property tax being paid at the time of purchase of acquired lands.

https://revisor.mo.gov/main/OneSection.aspx?section=IV+++43

  IV Section 43(a).  Sales tax, use for conservation purposes. — For the purpose of providing additional moneys to be expended and used by the conservation commission, department of conservation, for the control, management, restoration, conservation and regulation of the bird, fish, game, forestry and wildlife resources of the state, including the purchase or other acquisition of property for said purposes, and for the administration of the laws pertaining thereto, an additional sales tax of one-eighth of one percent is hereby levied and imposed upon all sellers for the privilege of selling tangible personal property or rendering taxable services at retail in this state upon the sales and services which now are or hereafter are listed and set forth in, and, except as to the amount of tax, subject to the provisions of and to be collected as provided in the "Sales Tax Law" and subject to the rules and regulations promulgated in connection therewith; and an additional use tax of one-eighth of one percent is levied and imposed for the privilege of storing, using or consuming within this state any article of tangible personal property as set forth and provided in the "Compensating Use Tax Law" and, except as to the amount of the tax, subject to the provisions of and to be collected as provided in the "Compensating Use Tax Law" and subject to the rules and regulations promulgated in connection therewith.


ETA: Control of Conservation funds was the subject of a court case in 2023:

Missouri Supreme Court rules lawmakers had no power to limit conservation spending

Primary is today, get out and vote!

I was #4 in my little town.

Not sure if this account was posted in this thread or not.  However, good little blurbs about candidates can be found on this Twitter account.

Don't forget,@BillEigel
has EARNED this A+ from the Missouri Firearms Coalition for:  1. Fighting for SAPA 2. Sponsoring bills to ban 'Red Flags' 3. Fighting for IP Reform 4. Being hated by anti-gun RINOs pic.twitter.com/BkMeUKcouY

Missouri Firearms Coalition  (@MOFirearms2A) July 31, 2024

@bladeswitcher

I read this link (thanks for posting)

1) who is the freedom caucus candidate?
2) who is for public funding for private education?

Imma re-read in case I missed it

Thanks!

Sorry, I’m not available to contribute today

I think Bladeswitcher mentioned earlier in the thread that he was working the polls today.

Freedom Caucus endorsed both their guys, Cody Smith and Koenig. Both also happen to be fairly big school choice advocates also, both pushed to get MOScholars through.
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Thanks ^

No worries.

I voted pretty early this morning, it was really quiet out here in the rural area. No wait. The polling station in town seemed pretty busy.

Was pretty busy here in Warren, but it was around 1700 so people heading through on the way home.

Our line was long, then when I finished sniffing the sharpie voting, the other line was long.

I love driving past three polling places to get to mine, instead of the church 700 meters from the house where it was pre-covid.

Dang.

What would it take to rescind it?  

I wouldn’t be upset if that tax went away.

Looks like Kehoe won, Eigel second and Ashcroft 3rd.

Simple. Circulate a petition, get hundreds of thousands of people to sign it and a majority of of Missourians to vote for it. Alternatively, you could get a majority of of the House and Senate to commit career suicide and put a constitutional amendment on the ballot and then convince a majority of Missourians to vote for it.

But seriously dude, Missouri has one of the best fish and wildlife departments in the country and some truly incredible public resources. We have a proud conservation history here and have been and continue to be the envy of the nation when it comes to rod and gun type stuff. What possible reason would you want to get rid of the the conservation tax? If there was ever an example of a GOOD tax, that's it.

Kehoe will be a good governor. This was a good outcome.