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12/22/2020 10:52:52 AM EDT
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Update on the JAKL?
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Jim, it is not dead. It is actively being worked on by engineering.


Update on the JAKL?


I was in engineering yesterday and they were working on it!

Thanks,

Josiah
12/25/2020 11:05:04 PM EDT
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I was in engineering yesterday and they were working on it!

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Will you offer a “stock adapter” that allows for the use of a standard AR15 buffer tube?

Thanks.
12/26/2020 12:43:23 PM EDT
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Seems crazy if they do.

No buffer is needed.

You could just use the SIG adapter if you wanted to do that and make it fold, or the KAK adapter if you didn't, or any of the other dozens of 1913 to RE adapters.
12/26/2020 10:47:37 PM EDT
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Seems crazy if they do.

No buffer is needed.

You could just use the SIG adapter if you wanted to do that and make it fold, or the KAK adapter if you didn't, or any of the other dozens of 1913 to RE adapters.
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I’d like to use a Hera folding stock adapter.
12/27/2020 1:14:22 AM EDT
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Why would you want to use a buffer-tube style folding stock adapter on a gun that doesn't need a buffer tube to function?  It's wider than necessary, so why not go with a folding stock that's thinner?
12/27/2020 8:58:03 PM EDT
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Why would you want to use a buffer-tube style folding stock adapter on a gun that doesn't need a buffer tube to function?  It's wider than necessary, so why not go with a folding stock that's thinner?
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Because I have a box full of stocks and buffer tubes.  Some people will want a non-folding stock option as well.
12/28/2020 10:57:12 AM EDT
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Because I have a box full of stocks and buffer tubes.  Some people will want a non-folding stock option as well.
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I’d sell that stuff and buy something that fits the design a little better brother
12/28/2020 11:40:47 AM EDT
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I am not aware of plans to put a buffer tube on the JAKL in order to use other braces or stocks. We are focusing on getting the standard version in 300AAC and 5.56 out in the New Year.

Thank you,

Josiah
12/28/2020 7:27:58 PM EDT
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I am not aware of plans to put a buffer tube on the JAKL in order to use other braces or stocks. We are focusing on getting the standard version in 300AAC and 5.56 out in the New Year.

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Josiah
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Thanks for the update!
12/28/2020 7:39:35 PM EDT
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I am not aware of plans to put a buffer tube on the JAKL in order to use other braces or stocks. We are focusing on getting the standard version in 300AAC and 5.56 out in the New Year.

Thank you,

Josiah
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Will you offer a “stock adapter” that allows for the use of a standard AR15 buffer tube?

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I am not aware of plans to put a buffer tube on the JAKL in order to use other braces or stocks. We are focusing on getting the standard version in 300AAC and 5.56 out in the New Year.

Thank you,

Josiah



Josiah,

I am about 60 miles up the road from you in NC, Charlotte area.  If you need product tester with an engineering background (combat engineer, I shoot stuff and blow stuff up), let me know.  
1/5/2021 12:58:43 PM EDT
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I understand PSA is currently concentrating on getting the first 2 versions of the JAKL out right now, but you think considering what ammo prices are like and what they could likely continue to be for a while maybe we could get a 762 39 upper? I mean sure we would have to use those goofy looking duramags but 40 CPR for x39 is a hell of a lot better that $1 CPR for 300 or 80 CPR for 556. I mean an AK mag one could be done and would be cool, but Im sure there is a lot more engineering that has to go into that and it doesn't seem like there is a lot of time for engineering right now for anyone. Plus then you have a lower that doesn't interchange with anything else, so you mess up your versatility.
1/5/2021 4:17:06 PM EDT
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I understand PSA is currently concentrating on getting the first 2 versions of the JAKL out right now, but you think considering what ammo prices are like and what they could likely continue to be for a while maybe we could get a 762 39 upper? I mean sure we would have to use those goofy looking duramags but 40 CPR for x39 is a hell of a lot better that $1 CPR for 300 or 80 CPR for 556. I mean an AK mag one could be done and would be cool, but Im sure there is a lot more engineering that has to go into that and it doesn't seem like there is a lot of time for engineering right now for anyone. Plus then you have a lower that doesn't interchange with anything else, so you mess up your versatility.
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If the upper is compatible with any AR lower then it could the theoretically possible to run a 7.62x39 version a KS-47 lower w/ AK mags? ??
1/7/2021 5:25:06 PM EDT
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I’d love to see a JAKL upper in x39 that would work with my KS47 SBR lower...
1/8/2021 5:55:06 PM EDT
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Ha, I think everyone would just like to see the Jakl.

Here we are in Jan ‘21 the last stated release time. No Jakl. No update.
1/8/2021 6:12:40 PM EDT
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Ha, I think everyone would just like to see the Jakl.

Here we are in Jan ‘21 the last stated release time. No Jakl. No update.
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The Jakl by Shrike.  
1/11/2021 1:41:40 AM EDT
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The Jakl by Shrike.  
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Hmmmmm reminds me of an MP5 project they had before
1/11/2021 11:16:30 PM EDT
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Hmmmmm reminds me of an MP5 project they had before
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Except that there is no market for a commercial "American MP5" so long as there are multiple legit sources available.

JAKL has the potential to really gather interest, and change the reputation of the company.
1/12/2021 8:14:57 PM EDT
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@palmettostatearmory

Will there be sufficient barrel shoulder and thread cut relief on the Jakl’s chambered in 300 blackout.  The previous 300 Blackout I purchased from yall didn’t have either of these things.  Had to swap out the PSA barrel with a Hanson Barrel for suppressor use.  

Please get this right on the Jakl!
1/13/2021 12:18:39 PM EDT
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Will there be sufficient barrel shoulder and thread cut relief on the Jakl’s chambered in 300 blackout.  The previous 300 Blackout I purchased from yall didn’t have either of these things.  Had to swap out the PSA barrel with a Hanson Barrel for suppressor use.  

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Yes, there will be!

Thanks,

Josiah
1/13/2021 3:29:57 PM EDT
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Will there be sufficient barrel shoulder and thread cut relief on the Jakl’s chambered in 300 blackout.  The previous 300 Blackout I purchased from yall didn’t have either of these things.  Had to swap out the PSA barrel with a Hanson Barrel for suppressor use.  

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Let’s hope since supposedly the barrel won’t be removeable
1/14/2021 12:35:56 PM EDT
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Xiden may veto the whole project with XO at this point.
1/14/2021 11:06:18 PM EDT
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It works with AR-15 lowers no? So in that case I'm sure we would see more of a push for products that can work with existing AWB.
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Or maybe he'll ban them too, IDK.
1/15/2021 5:22:29 AM EDT
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It works with AR-15 lowers no? So in that case I'm sure we would see more of a push for products that can work with existing AWB.
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Or NFA them.
1/15/2021 1:13:22 PM EDT
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If the upper is compatible with any AR lower then it could the theoretically possible to run a 7.62x39 version a KS-47 lower w/ AK mags? ??
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I suppose it could but there are some mods they made to the KS47 uppers to get them to work with AK mags that I would think have to carry over to a jakl upper for it to work well. Namely the overeinsetion tabs and the single feel ramp. Not terribly difficult I would think but still a bit of engineering. Again though considering the cost of ammo right now I would think it would be a good seller, potentially better than 300 BLK since 300 BLK is 80+ cpr right now and even in good time 300 BLK is relatively expensive. Also if you aren't super interested in running suppressed the x39 is basically a super sonic 300 blk so its a good option. I know id buy one in a second if they released it. I just got a KS47 and as much as I like it I could see a lot of advantages something like a jakl upper would bring. The biggest of which would be a mp5 style bolt hold.
1/15/2021 11:57:55 PM EDT
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I still hope this comes out before Biden fucks everything, but I also do hope that a 16" carbine version with a extended upper is planned down the road.

I know most people here want the small compact gun, but I would be fine with a Carbine length version, There are maybe two choices for using the AR-15 lower, Faxon ARAK upper and Brownells BRN-180, and The JAKL looks better than both of them, IMO.

Also as someone mentioned the Suggestion thread, making a version that is compatible with the KS-47 lower.

Know its not going to be for a while if any of those happen, but still putting it out here.
1/16/2021 12:22:23 PM EDT
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I was in engineering yesterday and they were working on it!
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1/24/2021 5:00:56 AM EDT
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Can we get a status and ETA update? Thank you!
1/25/2021 4:26:57 PM EDT
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They are working on it and it will be out this year!

Thank you,

Josiah
2/28/2021 7:41:16 PM EDT
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I'm down for a 300 and a 556 each.
3/4/2021 3:51:53 PM EDT
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Because I have a box full of stocks and buffer tubes.  Some people will want a non-folding stock option as well.
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Why would you want to use a buffer-tube style folding stock adapter on a gun that doesn't need a buffer tube to function?  It's wider than necessary, so why not go with a folding stock that's thinner?


Because I have a box full of stocks and buffer tubes.  Some people will want a non-folding stock option as well.
@HKPDW Here you go. It doesn't allow the use of the Hera, but will let you use buffer tubes and stocks (and already folds)

https://www.sigsauer.com/sig-sauer-stock-adapter-1913-interface-folding-knuckle.html
3/4/2021 10:49:34 PM EDT
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Live stream just said "very soon" for the Jakyl.
Doesn't say much but seemed quite hopeful when he said it.
3/5/2021 9:07:09 AM EDT
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Where was live stream?
Hopefully the price is jacked up a lot more to give them some incentive to get this going, improve it. The sig mcx is what it’s competing against. This should be 11-1500 dollar rifle.
3/5/2021 9:24:06 AM EDT
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Hopefully the price is jacked up a lot more to give them some incentive to get this going, improve it. The sig mcx is what it's competing against. This should be 11-1500 dollar rifle.
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It has to run and be reliable and supported. And then the aftermarket has to help carry it. Maybe secure a few contracts, mil or LE....Then it might be MCX competitive.


ETA and why the fuck would you want them to jack up the price? Money makes you sick or something?
3/5/2021 10:42:25 AM EDT
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Hopefully the price is jacked up a lot more to give them some incentive to get this going, improve it. The sig mcx is what it’s competing against. This should be 11-1500 dollar rifle.
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What? No man. I'd say they're more competing against something like the BRN-180 uppers from brownells.
3/5/2021 10:57:14 AM EDT
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Hopefully the price is jacked up a lot more to give them some incentive to get this going, improve it. The sig mcx is what it’s competing against. This should be 11-1500 dollar rifle.
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They did one on Instagram last night.
3/5/2021 12:01:45 PM EDT
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They did one on Instagram last night.
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For us non-social media types, would you be able to post a link?
3/5/2021 1:20:04 PM EDT
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3/5/2021 8:48:52 PM EDT
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It has to run and be reliable and supported. And then the aftermarket has to help carry it. Maybe secure a few contracts, mil or LE....Then it might be MCX competitive.


ETA and why the fuck would you want them to jack up the price? Money makes you sick or something?
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Where was live stream?
Hopefully the price is jacked up a lot more to give them some incentive to get this going, improve it. The sig mcx is what it's competing against. This should be 11-1500 dollar rifle.
It has to run and be reliable and supported. And then the aftermarket has to help carry it. Maybe secure a few contracts, mil or LE....Then it might be MCX competitive.


ETA and why the fuck would you want them to jack up the price? Money makes you sick or something?

I want them to jack up the price so they’ll actually be incentivized to build them and make them well.
Why do you think they’re six months behind schedule? Why do you think the dagger is a year behind?
Low margins. Or no margins with this current gun world?
I run a business. You know what gets the highest priority? The stuff I make the most money from. Have a couple things not making the priority because it’s not paying enough for it to be a priority
The truth is they won’t give it the attention they deserve if they’re not making enough money.
3/6/2021 12:06:03 AM EDT
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3/6/2021 12:15:29 AM EDT
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I’ve had a BRN-180 300 in my cart with Brownells several times but keep holding out for this.
As long as competitively priced with it I’ll be happy.
3/6/2021 12:16:31 AM EDT
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https://www.instagram.com/tv/CMBWy3oo9da/?igshid=uqtlxfttmmfl
3/6/2021 4:35:11 PM EDT
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Awesome.  Thank you.
3/13/2021 10:30:20 PM EDT
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I want them to jack up the price so they’ll actually be incentivized to build them and make them well.
Why do you think they’re six months behind schedule? Why do you think the dagger is a year behind?
Low margins. Or no margins with this current gun world?
I run a business. You know what gets the highest priority? The stuff I make the most money from. Have a couple things not making the priority because it’s not paying enough for it to be a priority
The truth is they won’t give it the attention they deserve if they’re not making enough money.
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LOL...u ever buy a PSA product?
my $300 SPR upper works and looks awesome....
3/13/2021 11:03:48 PM EDT
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Really hope these uppers are out soon, money burning a hole in my pocket
3/14/2021 9:51:48 AM EDT
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LOL...u ever buy a PSA product?
my $300 SPR upper works and looks awesome....
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I’ve bought probably ten psa uppers. Pretty sure they’ve all run well. The last one I bought was a fantastic running railed mlok rifle kit for 279.
It stills doesn’t change the fact that a company isn’t going to devote the time and money to something if they’re not gonna make a good profit from a new product
3/15/2021 3:53:36 PM EDT
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I'd be interested in a 350 Legend Jakl for Iowa muzzle loader and gun seasons... I think a 358 Win would be the better caliber but you aren't close to being  there yet
3/15/2021 4:03:06 PM EDT
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I'd be interested in a 350 Legend Jakl for Iowa muzzle loader and gun seasons... I think a 358 Win would be the better caliber but you aren't close to being  there yet
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The capability to do a caliber swap would be a nice feature indeed.

ETA: you can use a 350 Legend in muzzleloader season...?
3/15/2021 4:26:08 PM EDT
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Anyone of the opinion that we'll see some video footage of folks shooting the Jakl at the PSA event that's happening this week?
3/15/2021 7:56:20 PM EDT
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It would be pretty cool.

What event are you speaking of?  

3/15/2021 9:32:53 PM EDT
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It would be pretty cool.

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https://www.ar15.com/forums/Industry/All-are-invited-to-attend-March-17-19-2021-The-Gathering/301-298137/

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