Great thread although most of the first several pages are full of non-working images...


Anyone have any idea if an 81mm mortar ammo can will hold three or four jerry cans? Dimensions look close and it might make a decent mount, and a lot cheaper.

Just ordered some water cans from LCI, although the mfg is now listed as "Skilcraft". Still offering free shipping on orders over 50.

A can for cans?  let us know. And make sure your images are good mkay?

I have the cans, don't have the 81mm. Surely someone around here has one and a tape measure? Inner dimensions needed.

4 shiny new cans came in today.
Filled them up and stored away.

I ordered 4 from BA but two came with small dents and scratched paint. Debating if I should say something or not..

As I recall ... Rover Parts has been good to make the cans right.

But really ...
Did you buy the cans to display on your pristine Schwimwagon next to your A+ grade Kar98 at the WW2 reenactors guild?
Or did you get the cans to haul precious liquid from point A to point B while getting bounced about in your BOV?

Big damage, or can unable to seal/hold liquid? Yea call em
Need perfect can for display?  Yea get a perfect can, but I would not expect a vendor of "replacement" grade parts to provide you with "collector" grade.
Scratch n small dent?  Meh spray some paint on the scratch and kick the can into play.  

Yesterday I unpacked the rest and I'm guessing Fedex let it drop on one side of the box or something. The one on that side has a much larger dent.. Anyways I was giving two as a present to one of my great friends who has a fully restored jeep for their birthday. That's why it kind of matters.. One only has a little paint scraped off so suppose I can just give the ones that look the best.. The others I was using for myself..

If you have a fleet farm store near you. You can get good quality Red cans with a spout for $50. I also got the green ones there to in there military surpluses section for $30. But I haven't seen them in there for some time now. They have gray interior lining and came with pink gaskets with yellow pore spouts that I painted red. I emailed the company and they said they will work fine for petrol but they were meant for "sprints". I replaced the gaskets with ones I got from Rover Parts and I haven't had a problem with them yet.

This weekend I'm at my parents cabin and I'm replacing all my gas with ethanol free gas to run in my generator and other small engines.  I also keep some on hand in case I need to bugout.  

They fit in the back of my truck nicely.

Small gap about the size of a rattle can. In picture for comparison.


Large plank leeps them from sliding all over the truck bed.


The milk crate makes a tight snug fit.


Cover keeps them out of sight in an emergency.

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Is there an adapter for the NATO cans that would allow me to directly fuel a generator? I'd like to just drop a can next to my unit and run a fuel line to it.

You need this.




From here-
http://www.lexingtoncontainercompany.com/Nato-Jerry-Cans.html

If the plan is a BOV, try it off-road and bounce along some rocks.... That topper may not hold them in as good as the pics look...
If for paved roads, you're good...

IMO, I strap mine down two ways, pull down from top and pull forward against tailgate. Full of fuel, you will be surprised how those cans can move around and the inertia force they have.

Rmpl

I figured I would post my recent fun project find. There is a small survival store in northern AZ that had these cans, I talked the owner down to $25 for the two cans and the spout.  Pretty rough looking but the inside was clean.





I used some naval jelly and a green scratch pad to do most of the rust removal. Minor pitting below, but they were in good condition.




I cut out some new gaskets.



Cleaned up the caps, got the rust out of out the threads and installed the new gaskets



Did about 3-4 coats of Rustoleum paint over a day and a half



Done and done. $25 in cans, $6 can of paint and a few hours of labor and I've got 10 gallons ready to go!

Went to Lexington Container today and all I can says is WOW! Used 50's for $9.95, brand new $15.95 prepper stuff! Barrels, jerry cans in many colors and they looked GTG! The staff was friendly and helpful but one thing I went for was out of stock. The cap mentioned above for attaching a fuel line to it. All they had was the two outlet type. They also have a vent hole in the cap so I'm a little confused about inverting the can with this cap on.

I also saw a sample of something they do not have in yet. They called it a TALL 50. A 50 cal can but it was probably 75% taller than normal. Looked about perfect for carrying a drill and bits!

My newest Sportsman's Guide had what they claimed to be NATO cans and spouts (not the "mil spec" that they always have and that I've seen posted about a million times).  Same junk different name?

Yea, take a good look at the can.
It looks to be the the wide mouth centered can, rather than the smaller offset mouth can.

I did not notice that in the magazine, but I see it know.  Good catch.

I really have nothing against Sportsmans Guide,
but you really have to look and read carefully before buying from them.

Probably nothing wrong with those cans as long as you get the right spout.

I have some rachet straps in the truck if I plan to do some off-roading.  Thanks for the tip.  I have noticed that they move around but I don't normally transport that many at once.  I was refilling them with fresh nonreformulated gas.  I have to drive a bit to get it so I do it in one trip.  

There's a little surplus dealer near my parent's cabin who has a shipload of those, but he won't part with them.  The good one's he's keeping for personal use, and he won't sell me the rougher ones because "he doesn't want someone suing him if they leak and someone blows themselves up."

I spent a lot of effort testing these to make sure they wouldn't "blow up". I just ended up with a decent catch. I don't have a lot of confidence in the interior of the cans, so I definitely use a funnel w/ a filter.. so far so good after 6 refills from each. I just don't want to make my fuel filter work harder than it needs to, but when I picked them up the insides looked solid, which is why I picked them up.

Where can I get a screw on cap for the "Blitz" type plastic 5gal fuel cans?  I recently got a blue one (no spout as I found it on the side of the road) that I plan to use for kero so I will be pumping out the fuel and I don't want to spend ~$11 for a spout I won't use if I can get a cheaper cap.  





Thanks in advance,


Tony

 

If it is the old US style Jerry Can the threads are the same size as those on a 55 gallon drum.  Any of the drum bungs etc will fit on them.  (this was by design.)  I have no idea if it will be cheaper or not but maybe you can scrounge something and make it work.

Sadly no this is not the good type of metal 5 gal can, it is the "regular plastic gas can type"

Just like this one only blue:

http://lonelyconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Gas-Can.jpeg



Is there any type of sold cap?  One smaller gas can I used to have had a "transport Cap" that was solid or had a sealing disk that you put on when you didn't want to use the spout.  Of course, I chucked that long ago as I left the spout on all the time.



Thanks in advance,

Tony

The standard Briggs & Stratton 5044H or 5044K worked real well for 4 of my plastic Red Blitz cans. I dumped the CARB Compliant stuff, and replaced them with just a cap to get a good seal. This B&S fit the threads just fine. It also fit my lawnmower . I found them on eBay for $1.50 each 2 years ago. They have held a good seal for the last 2 years.

Try the one off your lawnmower. If the threads mate correctly, then this is probably the one you need.

Thanks for the reply.  This is the kind of answer I was looking for.  Never would have thought to see if the cap from my push mower would fit on my gas can!  Makes Mucho Sense though.  Opening near same size and cap has same purpose (keep the gas on the inside).



Will check ASAP and report back!

Old Grouch is having a decent sale on four packs of NATO cans.

Ok, not so much of a fuel can question, but the black plastic piece of my fuel can nozzle came off and ended up in my boat's fuel tank (42 gal.) last weekend.



It has a canister style in-tank fuel pump / filter / gauge sender, so I really don't see it causing many issues - should I just leave it be or pull the pump unit and fish it out?

The concern with pulling the pump unit is tearing up the gaskets and such - I did order another gasket and might do it at the end of the season when winterizing the boat.

run her low and fish her out. you do not want broken pieces of plastic blocking your pick up

I suppose that depends on how critical engine function is to you. How fucked will you be if that part somehow obstructs fuel flow? Is this just a pleasure boat for out on the lake?

As far as I know, it's not broken, just slid off the end of the nozzle - but guess I should fish it out before filling it back up.  If I'm lucky it may still be in the filler tube, however, I doubt that's the case and it's probably at the bottom of the tank near the pick up.

Pleasure craft on a smaller lake - and family members have other boats, so it'd be a 10-15 minute tow back to the dock.  If the nozzle floated, it probably wouldn't cause problems, but it'll probably sit down right around the fuel filter and impede fuel flow.  Guess I'd rather fish it out instead of replacing a burned up fuel pump fuck...

the longer it sits in the gas and gets banged around the better chance of it breaking apart.

It'll look like it did when it fell in 10 50 years from now.

It ain't gonna block the fuel filter.

It ain't gonna burn up the fuel pump.

Don't over-metrosexual think this non-event it likely can be fished out the next time fuel gets low.

A 42 gallon tank is SMALL.

OP, a loop of safety wire or one of those gripper things from Harbor Freight is prolly all you need. If you pull the pump ---in a couple minutes, reach in and pick it out.

Sooooooooo,

To me, it doesn't matter what fuel it is, your plan seems like a sensible one.

check these out and watch the video before you comment very interested in what the "experts"  think

http://www.prepandmore.com/nato-jerry-can-20l-5-28g/

Thank you

First of all, thanks to you all for making this thread what it is today. I've read it a few times end to end, and occasionally drop by and catch up, but haven't pursued buying my own cans until they unexpectedly fell into my lap recently. I've been getting by with old metal civilian OPE gas cans all of these years.

I had a stroke of luck at the Waterbury, VT, military vehicle show and flea market this past weekend, and picked up three USGI metal cans for $10 each. Those were all the seller had-- at that price, I would have bought all of them even if he had a trailer full! I tested them and they are all free of leaks and the gaskets are good.

Now where is a good place to get the "donkey dick" nozzle? I am not even sure what it is really called.

On page one and on page two of this thread there are instructions on a diy donkey dick

What problems do you guys see with using something like a fuel caddy like this

http://www.amazon.com/DuraMax-Fluid-Transfer-14-Gallon-Rolling/dp/B000MT94QA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405530309&sr=8-1&keywords=fuel+caddy#productDetails

Stay FAR FAR FAR away from that piece of trash... I have one... it was given to me... if I had paid a single penny more than $0 I would be pissed for wasting so much money.

I use it, but it causes more frustration than anything. I'll just hit the key points.

#1 The squeeze pump handle: Even if it didn't leak like a sieve it would take you hours to pump that tank into anything. The handle was cut off within the first use because it leaked with every single squeeze of the handle.
#2 About 3-5 uses in, the brass ball-valve that closes at the bottom of the tank started leaking. It closes off fine, but when you attach the hose and open the valve it pours out around the small handle.... clearly a bad seal and certainly something I could fix, but it's not worth it.
#3 The wheels don't roll, never have rolled well, and still don't.
#4 Using the outlet at the bottom leaves approximatley 1 gallon in the caddy, which IMHO, is a complete waste. It is poorly designed.

I use it as a storage vessle only, and I siphon gas out the top. If you really really want one to frustrate the hell out of you then I'll sell you this one for half-price... awe heck, how does 75% off amazon's price sound?

ETA, it does have one plus... it seals up very tight and it's heavy/rigid enough that it doesn't baloon too horribly in hot weather. I just opened it last night to siphon some gas off... the pressure bleed valve took far too long so I cracked the main fill-cap. It had a lot of pressure in it but not signs of a leak or even a weak spot...

If you really have to have something like that's buy the real deal.
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/product/FLOFASTPumpSystems/Flo_Fast_Fluid_Transfer_Systems_2

"M1 Phallus, Pack animal"

Jegs Jugs


Jegs

Finally had some down time off the water and pulled it out, it didn't even get into the tank, hung up in the filler tube (been using the boat every weekend, just took a little longer to fill up due to the partial obstruction) - I was able to push it back out using a length of semi-rigid gas line.

Bought one of these, makes filling up much easier.



http://www.dasmule.com/products/nato-spec-metal-flexi-nozzle-jerry-can-spout.html

How are these types of jugs compared to the jerry can types?

Edit: the ATV/race car ones listed above.

We've looked at the Jeg's type at the ATV stores and the plastic is thick, well made. The only issue we thought was the gasket in the cap seemed a little 'off', but obviously they work well.

I couldn't identify what the gasket was made of. This was abt 2 years ago. I did think at the time it could be replaced with a disk of Viton.

Personally, for a cost of about $35 with shipping for the Jeg's type of cans [I'm sure there are higher and lower prices] versus Scepter MFC's going for abt $65 shipped on ebay, I'd go with the Scepter.

Certainly they are an option... I think the 'footprint' of the Jeg's is smaller than the Scepter pattern, for similar amt of fuel stored. They are taller.

Also, I've paid $50 plus tax at the farm stores for metal Blitz style cans. Before I EVER did that again, I'd buy Scepters at the aforementioned price range.

I've also bought the red metal cans from Harbor freight up till a few years ago and they have worked fine and are presently in service.

I think welded seams like the NATO cans trump rolled seals like the Blitz cans.


IIRC, one of the metal cans [no idea where I bought it] with kero or diesel is seeping a barely detectable amt from the rolled seams near the bottom. Other metal cans I bought 20 yrs ago and stored volatile cleaning stuff in them, have not leaked, based on weighing them every few years. This is the kind with the flat metal cap with a flat ring gasket, the typical kind from years ago, not the current ones with a small male threaded 'spout' that uses a plastic cap.

That kind would be fine if someone made a metal cap with a Viton gasket. There is an aftermarket black plastic cap being sold on eaby now for abt an outrageous $12 each. A few years ago the caps were abt $3. I have used those caps and the metal cans to store kero or diesel. I think the rubber gasket swells with exposure to gasoline. Easy to test by putting one in a small jar with gas for a few days and looking...

We keep both the Scepter and metal cans on scraps of pink foam insulation so the concrete doesn't leech important volatile fractions out of them into the concrete causing an environmental problem.

More thoughts...

Unless portability for larger qtys of fuel is important, I favor using larger sized containers than 5 gallons.

Also, for larger quantities of fuel, I only consider putting it in metal tanks [10 gallons and up]

I have no use for these plastic roll around gas carriers as I think [but don't know] that at higher temperatures, vapors will be likely to be lost due to poor seals, and also the things will swell up like the folks in line at buffets in their scooters with O2 tanks. There's other reasons...

A few years ago at an auction, there were two squarish metal tanks of 75 gallon capacity, that had been mounted to trucks for oil collection or something.

I bought them both for $60 IIRC, cleaned them up, spent $150 on epoxy paint [that I never used and likely has turned hard in the can] to paint them. They are very nice and have a commercial DOT or something data plate attached. Don't take up much room. Only ~40" by 24 x 24 inches.

Score!

Another possibility is to repurpose old but still good water heater tanks for all kinds of liquid storage...

Like this...

Here is my contribution to this great thread:

The rare and elusive Blitz six gallon gas can, compared to the standard five gallon can:






Six gallon can is 16in wide x 20in tall

Five gallon can is  15in wide x 15in tall

The extra gallon is great, if you find these pre-epa cans buy some. I was lucky and found the case I posted above on Craigslist for $40 bucks.

So the gasket makes the scepters worth almost double the price?