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Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Case of 4 Authentic Nato 5 Gallon O.d. Jerry Metal Gas Can with Spout and Gaskets by wavian $50.99 Jerr Cans What say the Oracle?? View Quote I ended up with 1 per order and Chinese made |
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I thought that was too good to be true.
I just went on craigslist and found a USMC GI can for $15 (ugly but salvageable.) The guy said to come before noon 'cause he lived in the "hood" and it wasn't safe after noon. I'm wondering if it's worth the risk but I'm cheap soooo.... I hope I'll be on here tomorrow saying I scored well. Wish me luck. |
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Originally Posted By WhitewaterRafter:
I thought that was too good to be true. I just went on craigslist and found a USMC GI can for $15 (ugly but salvageable.) The guy said to come before noon 'cause he lived in the "hood" and it wasn't safe after noon. I'm wondering if it's worth the risk but I'm cheap soooo.... I hope I'll be on here tomorrow saying I scored well. Wish me luck. View Quote Dibs on WWR's fuel cans... |
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I'm back!
The guy that sold me the can was a really cool fellow. Got a good can that will clean up well. Guess I'll keep my stuff another day or so. |
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Weak vinegar solution, followed by a baking soda rinse, followed by a clear water rinse. You could also do a final rinse with denatured alcohol to grab any remaining water. I'd do it on a hot sunny day and let mother nature dry out what's left.
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Originally Posted By WhitewaterRafter:
Also, who knows where to get truly good viton seals for the Blitz military cans? I just read where Blitz went (or is going) out of business due to lawsuits. Seems some idiot, IMHO, in Idaho poured gas on a fire and the can blew up. Guy lost his lawsuit but it still cost Blitz $2.5 million. Liability insurance is too high for them to continue to operate. IDIOT PEOPLE!!! View Quote There is a member here named Vatopa, IM him and he can get you pretty much any viton gasket you need. Cheaper than anywhere else I have seen. and they are Viton, I have been using several on Scepter MFC's filled with gasoline for a few years now, no swelling. |
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Viton not needed for steel USGI cans
No Viton needed for NATO cans Only Scepter cans need Viton Originally Posted By wshbrngr:
There is a member here named Vatopa, IM him and he can get you pretty much any viton gasket you need. Cheaper than anywhere else I have seen. and they are Viton, I have been using several on Scepter MFC's filled with gasoline for a few years now, no swelling. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By wshbrngr:
Originally Posted By WhitewaterRafter:
Also, who knows where to get truly good viton seals for the Blitz military cans? I just read where Blitz went (or is going) out of business due to lawsuits. Seems some idiot, IMHO, in Idaho poured gas on a fire and the can blew up. Guy lost his lawsuit but it still cost Blitz $2.5 million. Liability insurance is too high for them to continue to operate. IDIOT PEOPLE!!! There is a member here named Vatopa, IM him and he can get you pretty much any viton gasket you need. Cheaper than anywhere else I have seen. and they are Viton, I have been using several on Scepter MFC's filled with gasoline for a few years now, no swelling. |
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Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
I ended up with 1 per order and Chinese made View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Case of 4 Authentic Nato 5 Gallon O.d. Jerry Metal Gas Can with Spout and Gaskets by wavian $50.99 Jerr Cans What say the Oracle?? I ended up with 1 per order and Chinese made Did you leave a review? 2 reviews say they are junk and only 1 can per order and the other review gives it 4 stars and raves about it. BigDozer66 |
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Originally Posted By BigDozer66:
Did you leave a review? 2 reviews say they are junk and only 1 can per order and the other review gives it 4 stars and raves about it. BigDozer66 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BigDozer66:
Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Case of 4 Authentic Nato 5 Gallon O.d. Jerry Metal Gas Can with Spout and Gaskets by wavian $50.99 Jerr Cans What say the Oracle?? I ended up with 1 per order and Chinese made Did you leave a review? 2 reviews say they are junk and only 1 can per order and the other review gives it 4 stars and raves about it. BigDozer66 Just did thanks for the reminder. |
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Anyone have experience with temco?
They look pretty similar to the cans I got from roverparts. Minus the locking bar thing. Linky |
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Originally Posted By Mr_Smiley:
Anyone have experience with temco? They look pretty similar to the cans I got from roverparts. Minus the locking bar thing. Linky View Quote I can't help but you're right, they look pretty good. Maybe you should post this as a new thread and put it in front of a larger audience. |
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http://www.valpro.lv/en/products/steel-cans/civil-cans.html
At the bottom of the page they mention available colors being anything in the RAL catalogue. Does anyone know how many a person would need to buy to get the color they want? (RAL 1021 is hilarious, btw) I'd buy a couple in RAL 8000 or 7008, but I couldn't come up with enough for a full pallet (56) of them. http://www.ralcolor.com/ |
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Nice job labeling the cans, but I can speak from experience about PTouch labels.
They don't last. You will come back and find blank labels. You might want to consider taking and covering them with clear tape. |
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Originally Posted By SandHillsHillbilly: Nice job labeling the cans, but I can speak from experience about PTouch labels. They don't last. You will come back and find blank labels. You might want to consider taking and covering them with clear tape. View Quote Thanks for the tip! I literally just got this thing a few days ago so I'm just experimenting with it. I might go with my stand by and just stencil the data on if it becomes a problem. Just had to test out the new toy |
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Recently saw this notice from DeutscheOptik:
<em style="outline: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;">These are the last of the single Wavian jerry-cans available in the USA! — all future jerry-cans regardless of size will only come with nozzles attached —[/span] http://deutscheoptik.com/Militaria-Tools/WAVIAN-Great-Britain-OD-20-Liter-Jerry-Can-SET-OF-FOUR.html No such notice from Atlantic British, but they are carrying cans that include a carb nozzle so they could be transitioning. Anyone besides me think these CARB nozzles are non-compliant with the ADA? |
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Gal-20L-Jerry-Can-Gasoline-Gas-Fuel-Can-Emergency-Backup-Gas-Caddy-Tank/331229786053?hash=item4d1ed56fc5
Saw this today on ebay. $25 is pretty good price, idk how good they are though. Any thoughts? |
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Originally Posted By flostang13:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Gal-20L-Jerry-Can-Gasoline-Gas-Fuel-Can-Emergency-Backup-Gas-Caddy-Tank/331229786053?hash=item4d1ed56fc5 Saw this today on ebay. $25 is pretty good price, idk how good they are though. Any thoughts? View Quote Where is it made? The price and the vendor(ebay) sez that thar be a can made in china. I would not blow 25 of my dollars to be the crash test dummy to see if that can was any good. |
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Originally Posted By TigerForce:
ALET ! ! ! ALET ! ! ! FO TIME ! ! ! Roverparts - 10% off Jerry Cans & Mil Surplus ! View Quote The best time to buy from them is when they have free shipping. The price per can will be cheaper than 10% off. I bought my last cans when they had the 10% sale and free shipping! |
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Originally Posted By DollopLobber: The best time to buy from them is when they have free shipping. The price per can will be cheaper than 10% off. I bought my last cans when they had the 10% sale and free shipping! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DollopLobber: Originally Posted By TigerForce: ALET ! ! ! ALET ! ! ! FO TIME ! ! ! Roverparts - 10% off Jerry Cans & Mil Surplus ! The best time to buy from them is when they have free shipping. The price per can will be cheaper than 10% off. I bought my last cans when they had the 10% sale and free shipping! I agree. I almost foed but after shipping ($30) I decided to wait. I did just find out that their ebay page has free shipping and the cans are, I believe the same price. |
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I just picked up a couple of cans like the ones in this ad: http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/clt/5182461388.html. Any background? They don't look like others I have seen. I intend to use them for waste oil.
ETA looks like a basic water can. |
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What is that black plastic clip type thing on the NATO Jerrican? It came with the gas spout.
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Thank you Mr. Smiley for educating the ignorant.
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Originally Posted By R2point0:
I just picked up a couple of cans like the ones in this ad: http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/clt/5182461388.html. Any background? They don't look like others I have seen. I intend to use them for waste oil. ETA looks like a basic water can. View Quote That is a Water Can If the ones you got have not been contaminated with anything that would make them not food grade(fuel, oil waste oil and etc.), then they may have greater value to collectors and re-enactors. |
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Asking for opinions on the internet and then getting upset for getting them is like stirring up a hornets' nest and then getting pissed because you got stung.
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Originally Posted By PA22-400:
That is a Water Can If the ones you got have not been contaminated with anything that would make them not food grade(fuel, oil waste oil and etc.), then they may have greater value to collectors and re-enactors. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PA22-400:
Originally Posted By R2point0:
I just picked up a couple of cans like the ones in this ad: http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/clt/5182461388.html. Any background? They don't look like others I have seen. I intend to use them for waste oil. ETA looks like a basic water can. That is a Water Can If the ones you got have not been contaminated with anything that would make them not food grade(fuel, oil waste oil and etc.), then they may have greater value to collectors and re-enactors. Pretty sure they got used as fuel cans but I will re-check. |
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In 44 pages has there been talk of protecting the bottom of metal cans?
One scrape along concrete and the paint is gone, and therefore the metal protection. Would a couple of layers of rhino liner on the bottom 1/4 of the can do the trick? |
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Originally Posted By danpass:
In 44 pages has there been talk of protecting the bottom of metal cans? One scrape along concrete and the paint is gone, and therefore the metal protection. Would a couple of layers of rhino liner on the bottom 1/4 of the can do the trick? View Quote I usually just spray paint them. |
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Originally Posted By FluffyTheCat:
I'm doing it for the children. I want to flood the streets with military grade weapons. |
Any experience with the Basspro Flo-n-Go CARB compliant can? I found only one thread on it.
THIS I'm looking at it primarily because of the form factor. These nearly cubic cans available everywhere are so stupid |
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Originally Posted By danpass:
In 44 pages has there been talk of protecting the bottom of metal cans? One scrape along concrete and the paint is gone, and therefore the metal protection. Would a couple of layers of rhino liner on the bottom 1/4 of the can do the trick? View Quote It's been mentioned to store them on something like rigid foam insulation to keep them OFF the floor. |
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Originally Posted By danpass: In 44 pages has there been talk of protecting the bottom of metal cans? One scrape along concrete and the paint is gone, and therefore the metal protection. Would a couple of layers of rhino liner on the bottom 1/4 of the can do the trick? View Quote It's been discussed, and done. I believe there are pics of it some where in the last 10 pages |
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Spray on bedliner in the rattle cans. Available at Wallyworld, Lowes, Home Despot, etc....
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-Automotive-15-oz-Truck-Bed-Coating-Black-Spray-Paint-248914/202097787 |
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Neat. Going to have to do that. I bought four cans from Deustche Optiks and sent one back. The cap would not reach the spout. They gave me a return # and said they would send me a new can and refund the return postage. Let's see if Fed Ex brings me anything this week. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Variable556:
Spray on bedliner in the rattle cans. Available at Wallyworld, Lowes, Home Despot, etc.... http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-Automotive-15-oz-Truck-Bed-Coating-Black-Spray-Paint-248914/202097787 Neat. Going to have to do that. I bought four cans from Deustche Optiks and sent one back. The cap would not reach the spout. They gave me a return # and said they would send me a new can and refund the return postage. Let's see if Fed Ex brings me anything this week. Well, the replacement can arrived yesterday and it's good to go. No check yet. |
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Originally Posted By danpass:
Any experience with the Basspro Flo-n-Go CARB compliant can? I found only one thread on it. THIS I'm looking at it primarily because of the form factor. These nearly cubic cans available everywhere are so stupid View Quote They are made by Scepter and sold a few different places. I bought a couple from a local PepBoys http://www.pepboys.com/product/details/9163096/00181 (cheaper than basspro) and I posted them somewhere in the Fuel Can Oracle. :) They are OK. Made by Scepter, but much thinner plastic than a Scepter MFC, However, they do hold up under pressure (even in a Texas summer). Being thinner, they swell more than MFC's. . Neither of the cans I have has failed. I use them as my "everyday" fuel cans for lawnmowers, etc. I replaced the CARB spouts with some older non-CARB spouts that I had laying around. This is how they look compared to Scepter MFC's: ETA: My post in the Fuel Can Oracle is page 17. WOW, I only paid $14.99+tax/ea. in 2012 for those cans at pepboys. Had them for 3yrs, no problems. |
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Hmm.
Seems ok then for simple gas storage at house (vs transporting gasoline around). How about sealing? EZ-POUR sells plain caps (THESE). Do all these cans these days have the same thread pitch and diameter? I can get one EZ-POUR nozzle, leave out the vent from the cans, and store the gas using those regular caps. I suppose I could ................... just brainstorming here. Edit: One thing I've always done with my cans is fill them to the brim, then squish the side with my leg, then seal it up. If it expands out again then I don't really worry about expansion lol. Though I'll likely have a condensation issue at some point. So much for that can. But if stays sealed, then I'm good. |
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Originally Posted By danpass:
Hmm. Seems ok then for simple gas storage at house (vs transporting gasoline around). How about sealing? EZ-POUR sells plain caps (THESE). Do all these cans these days have the same thread pitch and diameter? I can get one EZ-POUR nozzle, leave out the vent from the cans, and store the gas using those regular caps. I suppose I could ................... just brainstorming here. Edit: One thing I've always done with my cans is fill them to the brim, then squish the side with my leg, then seal it up. If it expands out again then I don't really worry about expansion lol. Though I'll likely have a condensation issue at some point. So much for that can. But if stays sealed, then I'm good. View Quote Like I said, I have never had a problem with them leaking (air or fuel), I used the caps that came with the cans and simply replaced the spouts. The EZ Pour Spout will probably fit without problem, but, worse case scenario, you can just use the caps that come with the cans with the EZ pour spout. The cans don't swell THAT much, but still more than a MFC, which swell more than the metal NATO cans. I tend to fill my LTS cans pretty full as well, but they do still swell a bit. They swell less than the cans you buy at Walmart. Walmart "balloon can" in the Texas heat: |
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lol
That's why I squish out the remaining air. To ease up the pressure on the seams and 'joints'. |
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Originally Posted By EXPY37:
From a Laws of Physics standpoint... Squeezing out the air ---has NOTHING to do with it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By EXPY37:
Originally Posted By danpass:
lol That's why I squish out the remaining air. To ease up the pressure on the seams and 'joints'. From a Laws of Physics standpoint... Squeezing out the air ---has NOTHING to do with it. 1: By getting rid of the air you only have the fu3el expansion to deal with, and liquids expand less than gasses 2: He is effectively "cold springing" the can. As the liquid expands the can sides will bell out to their normal dimensions first. Does it make any difference? Probably not. |
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Originally Posted By R2point0:
1: By getting rid of the air you only have the fu3el expansion to deal with, and liquids expand less than gasses 2: He is effectively "cold springing" the can. As the liquid expands the can sides will bell out to their normal dimensions first. Does it make any difference? Probably not. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By R2point0:
Originally Posted By EXPY37:
Originally Posted By danpass:
lol That's why I squish out the remaining air. To ease up the pressure on the seams and 'joints'. From a Laws of Physics standpoint... Squeezing out the air ---has NOTHING to do with it. 1: By getting rid of the air you only have the fu3el expansion to deal with, and liquids expand less than gasses 2: He is effectively "cold springing" the can. As the liquid expands the can sides will bell out to their normal dimensions first. Does it make any difference? Probably not. Nope, none at all. |
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Originally Posted By EXPY37:
Nope, none at all. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By EXPY37:
Originally Posted By R2point0:
Originally Posted By EXPY37:
Originally Posted By danpass:
lol That's why I squish out the remaining air. To ease up the pressure on the seams and 'joints'. From a Laws of Physics standpoint... Squeezing out the air ---has NOTHING to do with it. 1: By getting rid of the air you only have the fu3el expansion to deal with, and liquids expand less than gasses 2: He is effectively "cold springing" the can. As the liquid expands the can sides will bell out to their normal dimensions first. Does it make any difference? Probably not. Nope, none at all. I suspect if you kept pumping up the can that it would get damaged. I think that its at least a good topic to add to the oracle. |
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Originally Posted By R2point0:
1: By getting rid of the air you only have the fu3el expansion to deal with, and liquids expand less than gasses 2: He is effectively "cold springing" the can. As the liquid expands the can sides will bell out to their normal dimensions first. Does it make any difference? Probably not. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By R2point0:
Originally Posted By EXPY37:
Originally Posted By danpass:
lol That's why I squish out the remaining air. To ease up the pressure on the seams and 'joints'. From a Laws of Physics standpoint... Squeezing out the air ---has NOTHING to do with it. 1: By getting rid of the air you only have the fu3el expansion to deal with, and liquids expand less than gasses 2: He is effectively "cold springing" the can. As the liquid expands the can sides will bell out to their normal dimensions first. Does it make any difference? Probably not. That's why I drill a small vent hole in my cans so they can breath and not damage the can.......... |
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Originally Posted By BUCK1911:. That's why I drill a small vent hole in my cans so they can breath and not damage the can.......... View Quote |
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Originally Posted By SandHillsHillbilly:
That is bad thing to do even with so called "Pure Gas". Pure gas can contain no more than 10% by law. Allowing air to enter stored gas allows water to be absorbed by the gas. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SandHillsHillbilly:
Originally Posted By BUCK1911:.
That's why I drill a small vent hole in my cans so they can breath and not damage the can.......... Sorry I was joking. I thought that would be obvious crazy thing to do even on this thread. |
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Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Sorry I was joking. I thought that would be obvious crazy thing to do even on this thread. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Originally Posted By SandHillsHillbilly:
Originally Posted By BUCK1911:.
That's why I drill a small vent hole in my cans so they can breath and not damage the can.......... Sorry I was joking. I thought that would be obvious crazy thing to do even on this thread. No Buck... 50% would prolly try it... Some have even posted abt doing it -or periodically venting the cans so they wouldn't swell... |
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