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6/13/2025 10:52:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: crazysarge16][Edited] [#1]
Got it mostly completed, not 100% clone correct but enough for my purposes. Last thing I’ll probably do is grab a more clone correct muzzle device. Rocking the vector x1 prism in it now just cause I got a smoking deal on it and wanted to try it out.

Need to get some range time with it.

It’s mostly PSA, but had parts from B5, BCM, Midwest industries, and streamlight mixed in.

https://imgur.com/a/oNxHJHm
6/14/2025 6:12:46 PM EDT
[#2]
So what is correct? An A1 or A2 pistol grip?
6/15/2025 2:58:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:
So what is correct? An A1 or A2 pistol grip?
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The movie rifle had an A2 grip.
6/18/2025 12:54:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:

I keep these pics handy because most people don't even know there's a difference.

https://i.imgur.com/7uosYBh.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/p9ZWNOB.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/wHRMGr8.jpeg
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Anyone have a source for the old style pistol grips?

7/7/2025 1:23:50 PM EDT
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I just got mine. It looks really good.
7/7/2025 1:24:45 PM EDT
[#6]
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Originally Posted By reccerecon:
I found the close up that I was thinking of. It's from an article about the Black Hawk Down prop guns.


https://i.postimg.cc/jd25TpF4/955-E802-E-E5-E9-44-CC-9-F41-1-C2-A970-D83-AC.jpg
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Somebody should make this lower.
7/7/2025 4:26:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Somebody should make this lower.
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Originally Posted By reccerecon:
I found the close up that I was thinking of. It's from an article about the Black Hawk Down prop guns.


https://i.postimg.cc/jd25TpF4/955-E802-E-E5-E9-44-CC-9-F41-1-C2-A970-D83-AC.jpg
Somebody should make this lower.

IMC does.
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
So I know you're a SF whore . . . . .
7/16/2025 8:12:16 PM EDT
[#8]
My take on events… that slip over is beastly heavy!
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"It just gets that much more exciting when it has a carry handle on it. Or tiger stripes. If you have both, then you have the John Wayne in the Green Berets size of a big win."
7/17/2025 9:58:30 AM EDT
[#9]
@tiger222

Is that the 9000sc? What rings and flat top mount are you running?
How easily someone is offended is directly proportional to how stupid they are.
7/17/2025 10:21:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tiger222][Edited] [#10]
Originally Posted By Swordfish92:
@tiger222

Is that the 9000sc? What rings and flat top mount are you running?
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Hi, yes a 9000, got it on sale from Midway maybe 20 years ago?? Same with the (cheapo) rings, they
are a vertical split style with a clamp down lever, can't recall the maker, sorry. Too long ago!

The carry handle mount is an ARMS #2 weaver that I’ve had since the 90’s.
"It just gets that much more exciting when it has a carry handle on it. Or tiger stripes. If you have both, then you have the John Wayne in the Green Berets size of a big win."
7/17/2025 10:12:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CapnMike][Edited] [#11]
This isn't a Blood Diamond clone, it's actually a Black Hawk Down Sanderson Movie Clone but it has 80% of the same parts the BD Rifle had (not the muzzle device or placement of the weapon light), so I figured you guys might appreciate it.















This was a really fun build. I sent the barrel off to Retro Arms Works to chop the barrel and install the triangle front cap.

I found a source for $5 shiny M16A2 handguards and bought a couple of sets to experiment on chopping them up.

Once I got the dimensions right, I used a hot glue gun with a black glue stick to cement the chopped parts together.

The B Square mount, Aimpoint wide ring and Aimpoint Comp M with the correct lens cap took some digging to source and put together, as did the commercial spec CAR Stock.

The light is a genuine Surefire 660 with a genuine Surefire M14 Barrel mount and pressure switch.

I'm hoping to get to the range soon to zero it.

7/18/2025 2:49:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CapnMike:
This isn't a Blood Diamond clone, it's actually a Black Hawk Down Sanderson Movie Clone but it has 80% of the same parts the BD Rifle had (not the muzzle device or placement of the weapon light), so I figured you guys might appreciate it.

https://i.postimg.cc/fbzmwZ7Y/IMG-2976.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/RZQD0c8y/IMG-0474.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/2SFnR3Wz/IMG-2985.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/7YRQkp1s/IMG-0280.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/g2vHzNCb/IMG-0279.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/05FY7Txq/IMG-2979.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/sfq8Hf76/IMG-0165.jpg

This was a really fun build. I sent the barrel off to Retro Arms Works to chop the barrel and install the triangle front cap.

I found a source for $5 shiny M16A2 handguards and bought a couple of sets to experiment on chopping them up.

Once I got the dimensions right, I used a hot glue gun with a black glue stick to cement the chopped parts together.

The B Square mount, Aimpoint wide ring and Aimpoint Comp M with the correct lens cap took some digging to source and put together, as did the commercial spec CAR Stock.

The light is a genuine Surefire 660 with a genuine Surefire M14 Barrel mount and pressure switch.

I'm hoping to get to the range soon to zero it.

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7/18/2025 7:05:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CapnMike:
This isn't a Blood Diamond clone, it's actually a Black Hawk Down Sanderson Movie Clone but it has 80% of the same parts the BD Rifle had (not the muzzle device or placement of the weapon light), so I figured you guys might appreciate it.

https://i.postimg.cc/fbzmwZ7Y/IMG-2976.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/RZQD0c8y/IMG-0474.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/2SFnR3Wz/IMG-2985.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/7YRQkp1s/IMG-0280.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/g2vHzNCb/IMG-0279.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/05FY7Txq/IMG-2979.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/sfq8Hf76/IMG-0165.jpg

This was a really fun build. I sent the barrel off to Retro Arms Works to chop the barrel and install the triangle front cap.

I found a source for $5 shiny M16A2 handguards and bought a couple of sets to experiment on chopping them up.

Once I got the dimensions right, I used a hot glue gun with a black glue stick to cement the chopped parts together.

The B Square mount, Aimpoint wide ring and Aimpoint Comp M with the correct lens cap took some digging to source and put together, as did the commercial spec CAR Stock.

The light is a genuine Surefire 660 with a genuine Surefire M14 Barrel mount and pressure switch.

I'm hoping to get to the range soon to zero it.

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Well done! That looks great. I haven’t added the moderator to my Heat build turned Blood Diamond build with the addition of the red dot and spray paint, haha.

7/20/2025 9:33:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CapnMike][Edited] [#14]
Thanks Fellas

The Hand guard chop was pretty easy.



I removed the Delta ring from the barrel, then attached the barrel and barrel nut to the receiver.



This allowed me to use the barrel, triangular cap and barrel nut as a jig to size the handguard properly. This is an old banged up handguard I started experimenting with.

I found a dremel with a cutting disc was best for the chop, then I used a solid sanding block to make both halves mate up properly.



I used silicon repair tape to hold the tape switch on. The Handguard is solid and doesn't need the tape to hold it together.
7/20/2025 9:39:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CapnMike:
Thanks Fellas

The Hand guard chop was pretty easy.

https://i.postimg.cc/q7wcngBm/IMG-2819.jpg

I removed the Delta ring from the barrel, then attached the barrel and barrel net to the receiver.

https://i.postimg.cc/tgptYFbZ/IMG-2818.jpg

This allowed me to use the barrel, triangular cap and barrel nut as a jig to size the handguard properly. This is an old banged up handguard I started experimenting with.


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Smart!

I had been putting this off but now you have given me inspiration doing it a way I never thought about.


7/20/2025 9:56:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CapnMike][Edited] [#16]
Thanks

If your looking for a set of Genuine M16A2 surplus Handguards.

its tough to beat these ones for $5.

https://dartgunparts.com/product/colt-m16-a2-surplus-handguard/

The 2 sets I got were in great shape, and as a bonus were the correct early shiny Handguards that Colt used in the mid 1980s.



They don't have heat shields, but if your cutting them up anyway, who cares.


7/21/2025 12:30:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: reccerecon][Edited] [#17]
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Originally Posted By CapnMike:
Thanks Fellas

The Hand guard chop was pretty easy.

https://i.postimg.cc/q7wcngBm/IMG-2819.jpg

I removed the Delta ring from the barrel, then attached the barrel and barrel nut to the receiver.

https://i.postimg.cc/tgptYFbZ/IMG-2818.jpg

This allowed me to use the barrel, triangular cap and barrel nut as a jig to size the handguard properly. This is an old banged up handguard I started experimenting with.

I found a dremel with a cutting disc was best for the chop, then I used a solid sanding block to make both halves mate up properly.

https://i.postimg.cc/MTryP4QV/IMG-0553.png

I used silicon repair tape to hold the tape switch on. The Handguard is solid and doesn't need the tape to hold it together.
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Damn man, that’s a really smart way to do this. When I did mine I just laid a CAR handguard on a 2x4 and screwed on a couple of short blocks on each end for my jig. I used JB Weld to attach the two pieces and they came out great, it was a process getting the two pieces sanded to fit together correctly. I got to say that I love movie gun clones and this is one that isn’t ever seen, great job.

ETA. The cut down heat shields can still be used in these handguards with a little modification, if you have them.
7/21/2025 11:10:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CapnMike][Edited] [#18]
You do have to sand on the front piece a bunch to get the rear piece to fit on top of it.

I had forgotten that.

Imarked the front piece with a razor saw, then used the dremel to get every thing flat till it fit. Took some off the underside of the rear pieces also.

Good to know about the heat shields.

I too love movie clones.

I have built a Predator/Billy SP1-shotgun Clone, a heat 733 Clone, a Sicario MP5 Clone and this Sanderson Clone.

Movie Clones are an unappreciated field of endeavor.

7/21/2025 9:26:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CapnMike:
You do have to sand on the front piece a bunch to get the rear piece to fit on top of it.

I had forgotten that.

Imarked the front piece with a razor saw, then used the dremel to get every thing flat till it fit. Took some off the underside of the rear pieces also.

Good to know about the heat shields.

I too love movie clones.

I have built a Predator/Billy SP1-shotgun Clone, a heat 733 Clone, a Sicario MP5 Clone and this Sanderson Clone.

Movie Clones are an unappreciated field of endeavor.

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That’s really awesome. I’ve been wanting to do a Predator/Billy build for 30+ years lol. What did you use to attach the shotgun? I also did a Heat 733, Star Wars DL-21(AR7) and recently a The Lost World Jurassic Park HK91 beside the BD CAR15.
7/22/2025 9:03:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CapnMike][Edited] [#20]
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Originally Posted By reccerecon:


That's really awesome. I've been wanting to do a Predator/Billy build for 30+ years lol. What did you use to attach the shotgun? I also did a Heat 733, Star Wars DL-21(AR7) and recently a The Lost World Jurassic Park HK91 beside the BD CAR15.
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Those sound like some cool clones.

The Predator build is really iconic.

I basically just screwed the Shotgun through some extra holes in the LSO Handguard.



l

The screws thread into the scope mount holes on top of the mossberg shotgun receiver.
7/23/2025 1:52:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: reccerecon][Edited] [#21]
Very cool and simple. How does it hold up to firing? Those LSO handguards aren’t cheap, did you use any kind of rubber gasket in the vent holes? I’m pretty sure I’ve seen your build posted before, it’s really cool. I’ve been thinking about finding a Cobrey 37mm “M203” for a Dutch build also.

ETA. Where did you get a copy of Billy’s knife? Totally awesome.
7/23/2025 10:07:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CapnMike][Edited] [#22]
It holds up fine under recoil.

The worst I have had happen is the recoil compresses the slip ring and the hand guard pops out.

its a simple matter to pop it back in.

That only happens when I shoulder the whole thing and aim it using the SP1 sights.

its much better shooting it from the hip, as the recoil is not as bad.

No Rubber Gaskets or anything. The top of the Mossberg receiver actually fits perfectly into the groove on the bottom of the LSO grip.

The knife was like $60 on eBay. Looks like they are around $100 now

Search Predator Knife on there and there are a bunch.

Its made from the finest Pakistani steel.
7/24/2025 7:40:48 AM EDT
[#23]
What distance are you guys zeroing your carry handle mounted red dots?
7/24/2025 5:13:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By va_gunz:
What distance are you guys zeroing your carry handle mounted red dots?
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50yds for my PRO
7/24/2025 8:54:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By va_gunz:
What distance are you guys zeroing your carry handle mounted red dots?
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50-yards with a fine-tune at 200-yards on my Comp M2.
Why is the sky blue?
What makes the green grass grow?
7/25/2025 2:06:46 PM EDT
[#26]
I'm waiting on an A2 upper. In the meantime I'm playing around with stuff. Here's my original Aimpoint Mark III on one of my 10.5" uppers.






7/31/2025 9:29:40 PM EDT
[#27]
BD we have at home
RS Callsign Mayhem Midget
"I'll come for the killing and stay for the cheesecake"

SSgt Jason A Decker. 11/6/09
8/1/2025 10:37:41 AM EDT
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What light mount did you use?
8/1/2025 11:26:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:

What light mount did you use?
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Amazon special just to try
RS Callsign Mayhem Midget
"I'll come for the killing and stay for the cheesecake"

SSgt Jason A Decker. 11/6/09
8/1/2025 12:25:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stoner01:

Amazon special just to try
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Thanks. That one is no longer available. I got a cheap one too, but it won't fit under the front sight base.
8/1/2025 12:32:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:

Thanks. That one is no longer available. I got a cheap one too, but it won't fit under the front sight base.
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I ran this over, not under. Under would need a dremel
RS Callsign Mayhem Midget
"I'll come for the killing and stay for the cheesecake"

SSgt Jason A Decker. 11/6/09
8/1/2025 4:46:28 PM EDT
[#32]
I did too. But the bottom piece is to wide to seat on the barrel under the FSB.
8/1/2025 5:18:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:
I did too. But the bottom piece is to wide to seat on the barrel under the FSB.
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We need a good repro job for these
Mine sits offset to the right, which is more or less how the BD carbine was. I'll try and get close up pics later
RS Callsign Mayhem Midget
"I'll come for the killing and stay for the cheesecake"

SSgt Jason A Decker. 11/6/09
8/1/2025 6:16:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stoner01:

We need a good repro job for these
Mine sits offset to the right, which is more or less how the BD carbine was. I'll try and get close up pics later
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Originally Posted By stoner01:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
I did too. But the bottom piece is to wide to seat on the barrel under the FSB.

We need a good repro job for these
Mine sits offset to the right, which is more or less how the BD carbine was. I'll try and get close up pics later

This was on the Allen Engineering IG today:

8/1/2025 7:41:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Subpar:

This was on the Allen Engineering IG today:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/IMG_0245-3598652.png
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RS Callsign Mayhem Midget
"I'll come for the killing and stay for the cheesecake"

SSgt Jason A Decker. 11/6/09
8/1/2025 7:42:34 PM EDT
[#36]

RS Callsign Mayhem Midget
"I'll come for the killing and stay for the cheesecake"

SSgt Jason A Decker. 11/6/09
8/1/2025 7:59:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stoner01:
Originally Posted By Subpar:

This was on the Allen Engineering IG today:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/IMG_0245-3598652.png

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Why is the sky blue?
What makes the green grass grow?
8/1/2025 9:47:18 PM EDT
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That offset angle is legit. Not that I’d plan to use ‘put the light on them and you’re close enough’ as a plan…but having had one instance of using my 6 o’clock mounted WML and pulling the trigger overseas….I saw the white light on target and hit the trigger to satisfactory effect.

The HG mounted weaver/pic rail section with the light clamped on actually works in your favor for this build, since it slopes the beam into the point of impact of the barrel for at least CQB distances, but the light certainly moves around due to the HG mounting position.
8/1/2025 10:50:15 PM EDT
[#39]
BKF sells a blood diamond upper. Plain, and with accessories. I wonder where they are getting the light mounts they sell?

I sent an email and got no response.

8/5/2025 4:58:15 PM EDT
[#40]
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I tried one.












It's a Certo Forge upper. Colt gray. Six hole hand guards. The muzzle device is rather large and slotted all the way around. It had a scratch on the bottom.

It would not take any of my GI charging handles. The upper was too tight. I'm guessing it was not finished properly or is out of spec.

The rear sight had been assembled incorrectly. I was able to fix that. The front sight base is canted to the right.

Waiting to see what they'll do with it.

8/5/2025 5:38:07 PM EDT
[#41]
Damn, that's disappointing.
8/13/2025 7:52:01 PM EDT
[#42]
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Originally Posted By CapnMike:
This isn't a Blood Diamond clone, it's actually a Black Hawk Down Sanderson Movie Clone but it has 80% of the same parts the BD Rifle had (not the muzzle device or placement of the weapon light), so I figured you guys might appreciate it.

https://i.postimg.cc/fbzmwZ7Y/IMG-2976.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/RZQD0c8y/IMG-0474.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/2SFnR3Wz/IMG-2985.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/7YRQkp1s/IMG-0280.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/g2vHzNCb/IMG-0279.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/05FY7Txq/IMG-2979.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/sfq8Hf76/IMG-0165.jpg

This was a really fun build. I sent the barrel off to Retro Arms Works to chop the barrel and install the triangle front cap.

I found a source for $5 shiny M16A2 handguards and bought a couple of sets to experiment on chopping them up.

Once I got the dimensions right, I used a hot glue gun with a black glue stick to cement the chopped parts together.

The B Square mount, Aimpoint wide ring and Aimpoint Comp M with the correct lens cap took some digging to source and put together, as did the commercial spec CAR Stock.

The light is a genuine Surefire 660 with a genuine Surefire M14 Barrel mount and pressure switch.

I'm hoping to get to the range soon to zero it.

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Is that an original LSO grip or one of the newer versions?
"An age of glory passed like a lightning flash. The mandate of heaven passed from you but you didn't see. Times change and power passes. It is the pity of the world."

Song dynasty poet
8/14/2025 11:59:57 PM EDT
[#43]
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Originally Posted By Strela:


Is that an original LSO grip or one of the newer versions?
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It's an original.

not correct on that build, but I swap that SBR lower between a few builds.
8/15/2025 12:09:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Lancelot][Edited] [#44]
I have an original A1 LSO. I really like that B5 is making a new A2 version.

8/15/2025 1:10:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:
I have an original A1 LSO. I really like that B5 is making a new A3 version.

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I have one of the A1 LSOs on my GWOT M4. Also have an LSO A2 in the parts bin.
"An age of glory passed like a lightning flash. The mandate of heaven passed from you but you didn't see. Times change and power passes. It is the pity of the world."

Song dynasty poet
8/15/2025 1:34:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:

I tried one.


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/668/IMG_4520-3600989.jpg

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/668/IMG_4521-3600990.jpg

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/668/IMG_4524-3600988.jpg

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It's a Certo Forge upper. Colt gray. Six hole hand guards. The muzzle device is rather large and slotted all the way around. It had a scratch on the bottom.

It would not take any of my GI charging handles. The upper was too tight. I'm guessing it was not finished properly or is out of spec.

The rear sight had been assembled incorrectly. I was able to fix that. The front sight base is canted to the right.

Waiting to see what they'll do with it.

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They just sent me a replacement upper. No notes or comments about the first one. This one looks good so far.

When I get time I have a triangular hand guard cap I can install. If I do that I may install a slip ring in place of the delta ring. Not sure if it's worth it or not.

I have the PSA / HR muzzle device that will go on. It just looks better.

I need a different ring for the Comp M. The one I have is too low and won't clear the lense caps.

8/16/2025 3:44:57 PM EDT
[#47]
It's a start.


8/16/2025 4:18:31 PM EDT
[#48]
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:
It's a start.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/668/IMG_4703-3608582.jpg
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Looks nice!
8/16/2025 4:21:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JimmyAR][Edited] [#49]
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:
It's a start.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/668/IMG_4703-3608582.jpg
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  I picked the upper on sale, had no issues with it so far everything seemed to fit and shoot fine.    

 Just threw a lower I had on it.  

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 The Polonium takes the bite out of a little bit.  
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8/22/2025 9:16:55 PM EDT
[#50]
Blood Gordon. Or Gordon Diamond? Either way its an 11.5



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