Colt SP1 Ser 00004 up at auction!

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Colt SP1 Ser 00004 up at auction!

Posted: 2/17/2007 6:45:35 PM EST

Wow. They don't get a lot earlier than this.......
Linky to the auction
Not my auction (unfortunately) and I seriously doubt anyone is going to make his $15,000 reserve, but still useful for reference....

Posted: 2/17/2007 8:37:45 PM EST

[#1]

For that price it would need to have a 3rd pin in the lower!

Posted: 2/17/2007 11:15:08 PM EST

[#2]

Cool gun! Just not for me. FYI currently guns with the special 3rd hole are costing more than twice that.

Posted: 2/17/2007 11:29:49 PM EST

[#3]

It has the wrong port door

Wrong bolt and fprp too.

ETA: and the selector...

Posted: 2/18/2007 2:05:44 AM EST

[#4]

It doesnt even have any of the original parts!!

ETA: And riveted rear sling swivel??

What a rip off!

Posted: 2/18/2007 3:45:17 AM EST

[#5]

Barrel is incorrect also. MP between the FSB legs is not correct for 1964.

The whole upper is from some other gun.

Posted: 2/18/2007 3:47:12 AM EST

[#6]

I have everything to fix that gun that I picked up on a rack at a gunshow

Too bad it got molested

Maybe they took the parts off it and sold them to me

Posted: 2/18/2007 4:47:01 AM EST

[#7]

The rear sling loop is bare metal, while the front one is plastic coated.

I wonder if it has the Edgewater buffer, & original receiver extension tube.

Is the charging handle correct? Not saying it isn't, I just don't know when they were changed in production.

Posted: 2/18/2007 5:21:45 AM EST

[#8]

Seems very odd for so many parts to have been changed on this rifle given its "supposed" history, could be worth the money if it were actually all original

a copy and paste from the ad

This auction is for a used, fired several hundred rounds by the original owner, the Vice President of Engineering at Colt 1963-66, serial number SP00004.It is of the earliest design, has factory letter dated 10-2006.Although the gun has been fired, it exhibits the original finish, earliest designs of the famous M16 rifle, including old prong flash hider, bayonet lug, triangular hand guards, no forward assist, rear sling swivel that was mounted with a roll pin and stock swivel, black canvas sling, original Colt marked factory sling,and what appears to be different stock material. The bolt is the original black finish, nor hard chrome as in today.The original owner mounted a factory bipod and there are marks where the finish was rubbed bright, just inder the front sight, and a scope was also mounted to the rifle carry handle during testing and firing.There are some handling marks and scratches in the plastic, very light patina on the safety lever and dust cover, and front section of the barrel.The reserve is $15,000.00. This rifle and those beginning with serial numbers 1 through 10 were reserved for employees of Colt Industries. FFL is required

Posted: 2/18/2007 5:30:34 AM EST

[#9]

Looks like a parts gun to me

Posted: 2/18/2007 5:53:20 AM EST

[#10]

All the single and double digit SP1's I have seen pics of appear to be built with later parts. I suspect they are all factory original, but are of later vintage then the three digit rifles.

Colt frequently runs serial numbers out of sequence.

Notice the sale date of 12-01-66 for #5:

Note date on box:

Posted: 2/18/2007 10:57:57 AM EST

[#11]

I would have bitched if my upper and lower didn't match

BTW Ekie, how did you get copies of that stuff? Do you have #5?

Posted: 2/18/2007 12:30:32 PM EST

[#12]

Notice the price?? $140

Posted: 2/18/2007 3:58:10 PM EST

[#13]

height=8

Quoted:
Notice the price?? $140 h

Posted: 2/19/2007 6:03:10 AM EST

[#14]

Quoted:
I would have bitched if my upper and lower didn't match

Ah, nevermind.

Quoted:
BTW Ekie, how did you get copies of that stuff?

I saved those pictures off the net, saved close to another 100 SP1 pictures just this weekend.

Quoted:
Do you have #5?

No, I don't collect SP1 rifles.

Posted: 2/19/2007 6:08:45 AM EST

[#15]

Quoted:
I would have bitched if my upper and lower didn't match

If I was a Colt exec and got #5 fresh off the line.

Posted: 2/19/2007 8:05:30 AM EST

[#16]

I seriously think this thing was raped for parts...Late port door, no divots in any parts, looks like regular rifle buffer, regular AR BCG (looks like it has FA serrations), unmatching upper/lower, etc. Only some crazy retard would buy this.

I'd give him $400 for the stripped lower though

Posted: 2/19/2007 8:13:46 AM EST

[#17]

Quoted:
I seriously think this thing was raped for parts...Late port door, no divots in any parts, looks like regular rifle buffer, regular AR BCG (looks like it has FA serrations), unmatching upper/lower, etc. Only some crazy retard would buy this.

I'd give him $400 for the stripped lower though

If it was made in 1965, then the parts it has on it are correct

Posted: 2/19/2007 8:20:38 AM EST

[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I seriously think this thing was raped for parts...Late port door, no divots in any parts, looks like regular rifle buffer, regular AR BCG (looks like it has FA serrations), unmatching upper/lower, etc. Only some crazy retard would buy this.

I'd give him $400 for the stripped lower though

If it was made in 1965, then the parts it has on it are correct

If it was made in 1965, how could it be SN #4? Does anyone remember when #18 sold on the EE for $7k? It had all the old parts on it.

ETA: Didnt SP1 production start in '63 or '64?

Posted: 2/19/2007 8:27:02 AM EST

[#19]

Quoted:
If it was made in 1965, how could it be SN #4? Does anyone remember when #18 sold on the EE for $7k? It had all the old parts on it.

ETA: Didnt SP1 production start in '63 or '64?

See my first post in this thread.

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Colt SP1 Ser 00004 up at auction!

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