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Link Posted: 2/13/2017 10:54:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:

- .070 is the Crane-spec gas port size for the 10.3" barrel to cycle reliably with M855 62gr mil-spec ammo both unsuppressed and suppressed with an H2 buffer.

- .070 may not cycle reliably in a civilian gun unsupressed because we run lots of ammo that's significantly less pressure than mil-spec M855. The usual suspects are steel case (Wolf, Tula, etc…) and PMC 55gr.

- .070 will most likely cycle reliably suppressed in any civilian gun because the added back pressure from the suppressor will help cycle the gun even with low pressure ammo.

- ~10" barrels experience accelerated gas port erosion compared to longer barrels with longer dwell time. So as time goes on and after thousands of rounds, the port will open up slightly. If the gun does not cycle reliably at first with a certain type of ammo it might later.

- Most people have have good luck with shooting all types of ammo with a .070 unsuppressed by swapping out for a lighter buffer. Using a standard Carbine buffer instead of an H2 will decrease the amount of pressure needed to cycle the action reliably.
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Thank you, sir!
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 11:23:43 PM EDT
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If you're not chopping a Colt barrel down, there is literally no other commercially sold barrel to that spec or more clone correct.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 12:09:25 AM EDT
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Forgive the rear sight and can setup. I'll pick up an ARMS #40 sometime in the near future.

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Link Posted: 2/14/2017 12:38:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SoTexAggie:
Forgive the rear sight and can setup. I'll pick up an ARMS #40 sometime in the near future.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/207228/IMG-4100-146372.JPG

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What model Trijicon is that? Is that the one that was used?
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 12:46:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cjwwd2:


What model Trijicon is that? Is that the one that was used?
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I think a better question would be 'What model MK18 is that'.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 1:14:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cjwwd2:


What model Trijicon is that? Is that the one that was used?
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Originally Posted By cjwwd2:
Originally Posted By SoTexAggie:
Forgive the rear sight and can setup. I'll pick up an ARMS #40 sometime in the near future.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/207228/IMG-4100-146372.JPG

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What model Trijicon is that? Is that the one that was used?


It's the TR21r 1.25-4x. I'm not sure about the reticle color though. Mine is red, I think they may have used amber. Reticle color aside, they used the 1.25-4x.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 1:35:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
I would agree.
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Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Most of those photos would predate Sony's bodies or I would be very skeptical.

I picked the best and clearest ones to post. There are plenty with a ton of motion blur because I'd bet exposures are 8 seconds+ highest ISO and wide open.
I would agree.

Don't want to derail but I used to shoot indoor parties basically with candlelight only, with Nikon's 50/1.2 - what you can do with the fast lenses on an FX body is pretty amazing.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 1:58:58 AM EDT
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I have thought that myself, but its interesting, even on a moonless night with my sony, open for 8 seconds I start to get the motion of the earth rotating, the stars start to elongate. Im sure on a full moon with little to no ambient light... you could do a lot with those older camera bodies....

sorry...To much talking about cameras...

Pic thread:

pics of my home boy PewPewchris and his PR CQBR




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Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Most of those photos would predate Sony's bodies or I would be very skeptical.

I picked the best and clearest ones to post. There are plenty with a ton of motion blur because I'd bet exposures are 8 seconds+ highest ISO and wide open.
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Link Posted: 2/14/2017 2:22:37 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/14/2017 2:35:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By rloba:


I think a better question would be 'What model MK18 is that'.
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Navy EOD guys used to be seen in a lot of photos with them.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:29:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By rloba:


I think a better question would be 'What model MK18 is that'.
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Navy EOD rifle.

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The scope is a TR21 1.25-4x. They were used in SPR-E mounts.

S&B 1.1-4 PMII's were also used, in SPR/M4 mounts.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:47:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:


Navy EOD rifle.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/310340/qq8vpl-146508.JPG

The scope is a TR21 1.25-4x. They were used in SPR-E mounts.

S&B 1.1-4 PMII's were also used, in SPR/M4 mounts.
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Yep. EOD gun.

I've seen them with Eotechs before too, can't remember what model.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 12:07:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cjwwd2:


Yep. EOD gun.

I've seen them with Eotechs before too, can't remember what model.
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Yessir; 552.

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Here is some info pulled from one of the OG MK18 threads (10+ year old post). I edited for readability. This list is by no means all inclusive.

Rails:

West coast-

Vltor CAS-V
KAC M4 RIS/RAS
A.R.M.S #50C

East coast-

KAC M4 RIS/RAS

Optics:

Both coasts-

M68 in LaRue and A.R.M.S. mounts.
EOTech 552

West coast-

TR21 1.25-4X in LaRue SPR-E mount
S & B Short Dot 1.1-4X PMII in LaRue SPR/M4

East coast-

ACOG TA01-NSN in LaRue mounts

Iron sights:

Both coasts-

A.R.M.S. #40

Stocks:

Both coasts-

M93B in FDE/CT
VLTOR IMOD
LMT SOPMOD Gen 1

Lights:

Both coasts-

Insight M6X light / laser
SF Scout

LAM:

Both coasts-

AN/PEQ-2 IR Laser on both coasts (on a LaRue mount- west coast only)

West coast-

ATPIAL IR / Visible Laser West coast only (phase replacement for AN/PEQ-2)

Pistol grips:

Both coasts-

A2
Tango Down BG-16

West coast-

MAGPUL MIAD grip kit FDE/CT


VFGs:

Both coasts-

KAC VFG

West coast-

GRIP POD Polymer FDE/CT

Misc:

West coast-

Arredondo mag well
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 1:45:50 PM EDT
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VLTOR IMOD are kosher too.




Tango Downs are kosher?
That or its an A2

Link Posted: 2/14/2017 1:58:40 PM EDT
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Added. I initially just pulled that info from the old thread, but I'll add as we go.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 2:04:24 PM EDT
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surefire scout


chinese 3-9
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 2:14:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DontBuryMe] [#17]
Another pic with a Scout (and an example of how loose the East vs. West coast item list is- sailor from MU 12 with a 552. I think I'll change the 552 to "both coasts" on the list.)

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Link Posted: 2/14/2017 2:16:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:


Yessir; 552.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/310340/IMG-5432-146573.JPG

Here is some info pulled from one of the OG MK18 threads (10+ year old post). I edited for readability. This list is by no means all inclusive.

Rails:

West coast-

Vltor CAS-V
KAC M4 RIS/RAS
A.R.M.S #50C

East coast-

KAC M4 RIS/RAS

Optics:

Both coasts-

M68 in LaRue and A.R.M.S. mounts.

West coast-

EoTech 552
TR21 1.25-4X in LaRue SPR-E mount
S & B Short Dot 1.1-4X PMII in LaRue SPR/M4

East coast-

ACOG TA01-NSN in LaRue mounts

Iron sights:

Both coasts-

A.R.M.S. #40

Stocks:

Both coasts-

M93B in FDE/CT
VLTOR IMOD

Lights:

Both coasts-

Insight M6X light / laser

LAM:

Both coasts-

AN/PEQ-2 IR Laser on both coasts (on a LaRue mount- west coast only)

West coast-

ATPIAL IR / Visible Laser West coast only (phase replacement for AN/PEQ-2)

Pistol grips:

West coast-

MAGPUL MIAD grip kit FDE
A2
Tago Down BG-16

VFGs:

Both coasts-

KAC VFG

West coast-

GRIP POD Polymer FDE/CT

Misc:

West coast-

Arredondo mag well
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This is great. I wasn't able to find any list like this, so I mainly had to go by a couple old really threads and the few pictures I could find online. Thanks for the list!

Another-

Link Posted: 2/14/2017 2:26:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SoTexAggie:


This is great. I wasn't able to find any list like this, so I mainly had to go by a couple old really threads and the few pictures I could find online. Thanks for the list!

Another-

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/66/3d/5f/663d5f6136ef151eef20156d248c8f46.jpg
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Think thats a civi clone

This is gonna open a can of worms
KX5 and a SOPMOD



Link Posted: 2/14/2017 2:31:28 PM EDT
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Damn I think you're right. Don't see a third pin on that one. Good catch
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 2:33:01 PM EDT
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Aw shit.

Ran into some PJ'S with KX3s on their M4s at one point. They didn't know what they were, and told me that they were just on there when they drew them from the arms room.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 2:38:35 PM EDT
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East coaster (OSU 10) with a TA11 and an M952.

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Link Posted: 2/14/2017 3:06:55 PM EDT
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Eh thats jus a block ii cqbr
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 4:38:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pbjunkiee:


Eh thats jus a block ii cqbr
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Wat
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 4:40:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cjwwd2:


Wat
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lol block 1

dont kill me

Not a casv

more eod goodness
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 4:41:33 PM EDT
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My EOD build will be happening soon

Link Posted: 2/14/2017 4:43:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/14/2017 4:49:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/14/2017 4:52:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:


East coast OSUS an MUs were often seen with the RIS/RAS.
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I belive it, i just wouldnt group them the same as a casv build is all...

Havent seen this one before
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 5:09:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pbjunkiee:


I belive it, i just wouldnt group them the same as a casv build is all...

Havent seen this one before
http://photos1.blogger.com/hello/199/2414/400/ii041106a.jpg
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Fair enough. I agree that the CAS-V is a bit of a special feature. I have a bunch of EOD parts sitting in a box including a well loved CAS-V. Just waiting for an upper.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 5:20:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cjwwd2:
http://i.imgur.com/wzWw2bR.jpg

My EOD build will be happening soon

http://i.imgur.com/RdRXN5Vh.jpg
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Nice!

I haven't seen many of these pictures.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 5:38:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/14/2017 5:42:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheGreatDanton:


Airsoft
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nice catch
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 6:12:12 PM EDT
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FWIW, regarding reticle color of the TR21 used by the West coast units as mentioned earlier...

August 2005:
FISCSD issues a sole-source solicitation to Trijicon for 217 Model TR21 weapon scopes, 1.25-4x BAC with amber reticle.
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Link Posted: 2/14/2017 6:22:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/14/2017 9:29:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
FWIW, regarding reticle color of the TR21 used by the West coast units as mentioned earlier...

August 2005:
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Nice find. Yea you can see it in one of the pics you posted above. I picked this one up for $450 recently so couldn't pass it up.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:10:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SoTexAggie:


Nice find. Yea you can see it in one of the pics you posted above. I picked this one up for $450 recently so couldn't pass it up.
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Your clone is legit, man. Yours and pb's.

I haven't seen a TR21a for sale in like 2 years.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:45:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:


Your clone is legit, man. Yours and pb's.

I haven't seen a TR21a for sale in like 2 years.
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Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By SoTexAggie:


Nice find. Yea you can see it in one of the pics you posted above. I picked this one up for $450 recently so couldn't pass it up.


Your clone is legit, man. Yours and pb's.

I haven't seen a TR21a for sale in like 2 years.


Thanks! I will admit I was pretty hesitant to post it here lol
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:47:06 PM EDT
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EODs are legit in here.

Most short US Mil and some Brit guns get a pass in here as long as they are done well.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 12:36:32 AM EDT
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What was/is the purpose of the CAS-V? The continuous top rail?

Sry for the wrong can.

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Link Posted: 2/15/2017 1:19:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AstraPat:
What was/is the purpose of the CAS-V? The continuous top rail?

Sry for the wrong can.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126406/IMG-0575-146994.JPG
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light as balls
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:53:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
EODs are legit in here.

Most short US Mil and some Brit guns get a pass in here as long as they are done well.
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I'd love to take a shot at the L119A1(C8 CQB), but would like to see more specs on it. I think the receivers would be a far stretch for me to obtain, but the barrel is 10" correct?
Accepted suppressors? - EDIT looks like the can might be hard to find as well. If its a legacy that is
Ta101NSN optic?

Quick search found THIS

not mine, just seen this pic the most






Link Posted: 2/15/2017 8:44:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AstraPat:
What was/is the purpose of the CAS-V? The continuous top rail?
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Originally Posted By AstraPat:
What was/is the purpose of the CAS-V? The continuous top rail?


In the pre-solicitation notice in March 2005, FISCSD required 104 extended length M4 carbine handguards as follows.

The preferred design is a two piece chassis that mounts piggyback to flattop upper receivers and fits around fixed M4 front sight towers. The model must be tan in color. The handguards must accept detachable MIL-STD-1913 rails and to be equipped with two 4-inch rails, two 2-inch rails, and one 6-inch rail.


Four months later, in July 2005, Abrams Airborne Manufacturing  (Vltor) got the sole-source solicitation for 433 CASV-EL handguards, as well as 97 5-position RE-1 receiver extentions.

Why the piggyback design was the preferred choice, I do not know. They seemed to be after modularity.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 11:03:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
EODs are legit in here.

Most short US Mil and some Brit guns get a pass in here as long as they are done well.
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Who determines what's "done well" and what hasn't? Internet commandos?
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 12:07:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ozgood03:

Who determines what's "done well" and what hasn't? Internet commandos?
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Originally Posted By ozgood03:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
EODs are legit in here.

Most short US Mil and some Brit guns get a pass in here as long as they are done well.

Who determines what's "done well" and what hasn't? Internet commandos?


I think it's more determined by the attempt to adhere to the spec sheets associated with the fielded weapons. The attempt to chase down rare parts and replicate those weapons. Even if it is to clone a specific rifle that might only have been seen once "in the wild" TNW has a great example of this with one of his cqbrs.

The purpose isn't to shame those who are giving it an honest effort, but the problem lies when anyone just slaps an SBR upper together and labels in mk18 with no regard to the sopmod parts listing.
ECs probably got the most room to scrutinize in here since he has an actual m16 lower followed closely by milspec since he is the resident clone nazi.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 12:10:12 PM EDT
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Who determines what's "done well" and what hasn't? Internet commandos?
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Yes. It is the internet after all.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 1:20:54 PM EDT
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If you can read, you probably can figure out the criteria.
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If you can read, you probably can figure out the criteria.
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Link Posted: 2/15/2017 2:14:50 PM EDT
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Well the kac riser showed up today and seems pretty nice gen installed, however the 553 arms levers won't tighten down to the riser :(

fkn pos arms levers
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:51:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MrFrZZ:


I'd love to take a shot at the L119A1(C8 CQB), but would like to see more specs on it. I think the receivers would be a far stretch for me to obtain, but the barrel is 10" correct?
Accepted suppressors? - EDIT looks like the can might be hard to find as well. If its a legacy that is
Ta101NSN optic?

Quick search found THIS

not mine, just seen this pic the most
http://i.imgur.com/zA9nEqm.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/GnZUhzu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XqcgyXG.jpg?1

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Here's mine:



I usually run a black SOCOM-SB on it.  I really like the config as does anybody that shoots it.  I used a Colt 6921SP upper (factory 10") and the gas port is HUGE!  I'm running an H3 buffer and a Springco Orange (308) spring.  Even with that it'll cycle Wolf with no can and gas with the can is acceptable.
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