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For size reference, that's a 2-56 screw.
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Moar! Moar!
Perhaps I've asked you before - have you considered making a combination lower/thumbhole stock out of wood? |
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Well, isn't this a fine kettle of fish.
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Moar! Moar! Perhaps I've asked you before - have you considered making a combination lower/thumbhole stock out of wood? View Quote Something like the KP-15? Probably not. That would be cool though, hogged out of walnut, over cut the potential weak spots, line it with fiberglass mat and re cut it. Maybe a homemade laminate. Hmmm.... But no, I have too many other projects. I picked up yet another 32 rolling block and still have another with a broken tang that I've been putting off in hopes my tig welding skills would improve. I have a few parts kits including a Suomi, Sten, M-11 and other derringers, I'd like complete some day. I'm thinking I need to build another AK or 2 before there are too many issues with parts kits. But the worst part is my self diagnosed ADD makes me jump deep into certain projects for seemingly no good reason. |
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Well, I did not read all the pages, but keep machining and making stuff (firearms).
build build build, buy buy buy ! Get a 3D printer asap. I have some grease, just not sure where to send it, DEF FTA IBF has a sit&spin with thorns, figured some lube (free of charge) can help. |
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Spent way too much time again making a $4 part.
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Tried to fix my shitty welds on the take-down levers too. Much better now. Might still add some serrations or something. A lot of finer touches to go.
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Nice! You gonna drill it & put a fiber optic bead in there?
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Well, isn't this a fine kettle of fish.
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Kit #2, build #4. Got 2 more kits and a few more scrap builds partially started.
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Where are you buying the kits?
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EP429: Today's lesson - Don't provoke ARFCOM. People will see your butthole.
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Originally Posted By fox2008: Where are you buying the kits? View Quote The parts kits are from Excalibur and the receiver flats are from the flat spot. Flat spot sells on gunbroker, but I dealt direct. Excalibur says they're going to get a website one day, but for now they're old school. Gotta call em. There are some second guys selling the kits on GB, but for about twice what they cost from Excalibur. The single kits I got from one of the parts kit retailers, centerfire or Apex maybe, but those were cheap then. ETA: Single kits came from Centerfire a while ago. $70ea. Double and 22 pepper box direct from manufacturer. |
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Gotta put a video together for the 32. Both extractors are working well.
DIY Sheet Metal Derringers 22LR Homemade Guns |
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Not much shop time, but got one done and another started.
Brass might end up as 22 mag. We'll see. Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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A bit more progress on the brass derringer I had shelved 6 months ago. The barrel started out as 3/4 solid round stock (mystery stainless). The only reason I went with hex over octagon was the first two I made had hex barrels. Random drops from a local shop. It may seem like a lot of work, but it was only about 2 hours from solid round to a chambered and rifled hex barrel.
For anyone interested is the process, curiosity, or considering trying it yourself, I'll lay out the steps. 1. Drill end to end 2. Ream to correct bore size (for 22lr, the guide on my chamber ream is .2175, I happen to have a .2180 ream so that's what I use. 3. Chamber it. For these, I try 3-4 different brands of loaded ammo and make sure none are proud of the barrel. It can all be adjusted later if need be. 4. The rifling button will now drop through the chamber and engage the reamed barrel. This keeps everything in line to start pushing the button. The button and rods are all inside the barrel and supported. 5. I typically plug the muzzle end with a paper towel. Fill the barrel with oil, drop in the button, then the shortest push rod and start pushing. One pass and done! I'm R E A L L Y happy with how this one turned out. The rifling specifically. It looks great. Not sure if it's the evolution of the process working out the kinks or the myster stainless just takes it well. Either way, I like it. Spot the blank for support in the tailstock Attached File Starting the last flat Attached File It really does look chewed Attached File Through drill Attached File Chambered (turned by hand, I just use the lathe for alignment) Attached File |
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Chambered
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A slot to locate the barrel lug.
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That rifling does look great! I'm impressed and inspired by your work.
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Looks good…I need to buy a couple of those kits.
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EP429: Today's lesson - Don't provoke ARFCOM. People will see your butthole.
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A little of the "process" of getting it all working.
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Hitting a bit of a wall. I want a better latch for the break action. Not a lot of room to work in there. I'll figure out something.
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Originally Posted By AFCarbon15: The leinad kits are a good way to get started. Testing the waters of building. But these little scratch builds are fun. I thought I'd like building them, but I really like shooting the 22's. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AFCarbon15: Originally Posted By fox2008: Looks good…I need to buy a couple of those kits. The leinad kits are a good way to get started. Testing the waters of building. But these little scratch builds are fun. I thought I'd like building them, but I really like shooting the 22's. I’ve got a mill / lathe / tig welder…I need a press to be able to do the rifling though. Seems like a good excuse to buy one |
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EP429: Today's lesson - Don't provoke ARFCOM. People will see your butthole.
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Originally Posted By fox2008: I’ve got a mill / lathe / tig welder…I need a press to be able to do the rifling though. Seems like a good excuse to buy one View Quote Absolutely ! You might be able to get it done in a big vise, but yeah, a press had been on my list for a while. Still want to change from air over hydraulic to electric, but for now, it gets the job done. I went all in. I have rifling buttons for 22, 25, 30cal, 32, 9mm and 45. I'll be building for a while. |
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Originally Posted By AFCarbon15: Absolutely ! You might be able to get it done in a big vise, but yeah, a press had been on my list for a while. Still want to change from air over hydraulic to electric, but for now, it gets the job done. I went all in. I have rifling buttons for 22, 25, 30cal, 32, 9mm and 45. I'll be building for a while. View Quote Nice…I’m still slowly tooling up, it’s a hobby for me, need to get some quality reamers next. |
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EP429: Today's lesson - Don't provoke ARFCOM. People will see your butthole.
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Quite a bit of progress on the brass framed derringer. Would have been more but too many other things to work on requiring my time.
DIY Sheetmetal Derringers 22lr Homemade Guns v3 |
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I haven't had much time in the shop lately. Ive had a cold since New Year. But I made a little more progress on this one. Got a latch design I am really liking. So far I don't see and any need/room for improvement in function. Maybe something easier to make, but as is, it's not too difficult or time consuming.
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Really slow going. Between being sick and having too many other obligations, I just haven't had much shop time.
I have another brass framed derringer in work. Just started the barrel. The frame is finished on in shape, and the grips are close. This one might carved up. DIY Sheetmetal Derringers 22lr Homemade Guns - Grips Profiled |
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I haven't posted any updates in quite some time. I have been in the shop though. And the home office, as I've acquired a 3d printer (ok two).
Trying to perfect the parts (non printed) making process of the FGC-9 as I gave the kids some materials to build their own. Issues with barrel material supplies has pushed me back on the path of DIY barrel making. While I've had some issues with the ebay buttons, I think I finally have a good full diy barrel. [youtube]shorts/loazs10CxhE[/youtube] https://youtube.com/shorts/md6gd5IOZm0?feature=share Maybe I'll get the Short linking figured out Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Very nice!
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Death to quislings.
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The more money I spend, the more I think "I should have just spent 10 hours in the garage making that $40 part" ok, one of these was a $80 part. Not too pretty (yet) but it works.
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More turning metal. Hard to save money when it takes an hour to make two $40 parts. But we're still learning
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More end caps and thread adapters are on the list. Once we're done with all those, a F1 can with the same threads will be in work. Hell, should just start the paperwork now huh.
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Originally Posted By AFCarbon15: More turning metal. Hard to save money when it takes an hour to make two $40 parts. But we're still learning https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/89127/Screenshot_20230610_231141_Gallery_jpg-2847233.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/89127/Screenshot_20230610_231158_Gallery_jpg-2847234.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/89127/Screenshot_20230610_231211_Gallery_jpg-2847235.JPG https://www.youtube.com/shorts/010kyvjtWsM ETA, one day I'll figure out the youtube shorts View Quote DIY Suppressor Parts. Rugged Obsidian 45 Direct Thread Spacer #garagegunsmith |
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Death to quislings.
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By AFCarbon15: More turning metal. Hard to save money when it takes an hour to make two $40 parts. But we're still learning https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/89127/Screenshot_20230610_231141_Gallery_jpg-2847233.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/89127/Screenshot_20230610_231158_Gallery_jpg-2847234.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/89127/Screenshot_20230610_231211_Gallery_jpg-2847235.JPG https://www.youtube.com/shorts/010kyvjtWsM ETA, one day I'll figure out the youtube shorts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=010kyvjtWsM That spacer is probably heat treated 17-4 stainless. An annealed spacer may pean with lots of use. Not sure. |
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Noted! Thanks. I'll keep an eye on it for sure, but I think it will be ok. The body on this is aluminum as it's not high pressure rated. Basically straight wall and subsonic only. The majority of my use with it will be as direct threaded 9mm AR.
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Once I confirmed it worked, I had to do a little cosmetic work. WAY to many hours on this, but the factory adapters are $80 ea. I need at least two more.
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What thread pitch is that? Single point threadding?
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Originally Posted By JKrammes: What thread pitch is that? Single point threadding? View Quote Single point yes. I already forget the outside, 1-20 maybe. The inside on the one I made is 5/8-24. I need another in 5/8-32 for a 450bm. I'm not a machinist, but I just make both threads in a single setup and take light cuts. Seems to work. |
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A firearm is like a parachute, if you need one but don't have one, you'll probably never need one again. IG @jimstagramguns
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I'm not a machinist either, but I like to machine things. I only have my lathe a little over a year now. I love using it. I recently got into making my own screws. I will eventually do a Form 1 silencer, but I need to practice internal threadding. I like seeing what other people are doing. Your stuff looks great.
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Originally Posted By AFCarbon15: At some point it just becomes shenanigans right? https://youtube.com/shorts/an2Oy5KX14s?feature=share View Quote 3d Printed GB-22 Mark Serbu's design converted to 3d printable #3dprinting #3dprintedguns |
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Death to quislings.
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I salute you OP!
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OP is definitely a craftsman!
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"Life is Hard, its Harder if You're Stupid" - John Wayne
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A firearm is like a parachute, if you need one but don't have one, you'll probably never need one again. IG @jimstagramguns
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Originally Posted By AFCarbon15: @laxman09 thanks for the compliment. Since you found this thread, the raw forging that is the beginning of this thread, yeah, that's the Can cannon you shot the other day. View Quote I was telling my wife about all your creations and as I predicted, she wants a derringer |
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"Life is Hard, its Harder if You're Stupid" - John Wayne
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Some other recent projects. I have 100 in work, several that just didn't get the picture documentation to be post worthy but I hope some of this inspires other to take on a build of their own.
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Barrel making
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Red White and Blue just in time for America's birthday celebrations.
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Bravo Zulu.
Let us know how she holds up w/ the can. Running 147 grn? |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Bravo Zulu. Let us know how she holds up w/ the can. Running 147 grn? View Quote Pretty good mix of seeds just for testing, 115gr AAC, Blazer and Tula, 124gr Blazer, Magtech and AAC but primarily 147gr AAC. On a side note, The $20 Amazon reddot and DIY barrel are surprisingly accurate. ETA, The all black one yeeted the buffer tube. But the nested spring was half sideways jammed in the back. Not sure if that was cause or effect, but noteworthy nonetheless. I'd like to experiment with a hydraulic buffer and bufferless versions. |
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A firearm is like a parachute, if you need one but don't have one, you'll probably never need one again. IG @jimstagramguns
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Originally Posted By AFCarbon15: Pretty good mix of seeds just for testing, 115gr AAC, Blazer and Tula, 12r Blazer, Magtech and AAC but primarily 147gr AAC. On a side note, The $20 Amazon reddot and DIY barrel are surprisingly accurate. ETA, The all black one yesterday the buffer tube. But the nested spring was hald sideways jammed in the back. Not sure if that was cause or effect, but noteworthy nonetheless. I'd like to experiment with a hydraulic buffer and bufferless versions. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AFCarbon15: Originally Posted By backbencher: Bravo Zulu. Let us know how she holds up w/ the can. Running 147 grn? Pretty good mix of seeds just for testing, 115gr AAC, Blazer and Tula, 12r Blazer, Magtech and AAC but primarily 147gr AAC. On a side note, The $20 Amazon reddot and DIY barrel are surprisingly accurate. ETA, The all black one yesterday the buffer tube. But the nested spring was hald sideways jammed in the back. Not sure if that was cause or effect, but noteworthy nonetheless. I'd like to experiment with a hydraulic buffer and bufferless versions. Mods, could you move this post to the Remedial English forum? |
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