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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2022 6:40:08 PM EDT
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how much you willing to pay. Iv got one.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 9:52:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
[#2]
So I'm sure most of you know about these Wilcox repros hitting the streets.
I have no experience with the docter version but I did snag a T1 repro and so did quite a few of my buddies. Here's the skinny. They are a 99% clone. That 1% is due to the seating of the micro to the mount and it's issues. They seem to be about .005 off from the real deal on the width of the bevel to seat the micro. This is an issue with more than 1 of the mounts I have access to. They also have a little more gap to the base of the rings. I have yet to lap this cap to get a better purchase on the optic but I'm sure that will solve that issue. The finish is also a bit rough compared to the real Wilcox. Not an issue just a difference. The real Wilcox is almost slick. It's a good piece it's just got a few QC issues that have been sent to the party who made these, and he has offered to send another to make sure it's got 100% fitment. I went ahead and filed down just a hair on the surfaces which were hindering the T1 to fully seat and mount flat on the cap. It now mounts perfectly flat. Pics: Before filing:  After filing:  Spots that need filing:  Sight picture:  Final product: 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/2/2022 8:14:10 PM EDT
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Thanks for this
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/3/2022 9:11:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: So I'm sure most of you know about these Wilcox repros hitting the streets. I have no experience with the docter version but I did snag a T1 repro and so did quite a few of my buddies. Here's the skinny. They are a 99% clone. That 1% is due to the seating of the micro to the mount and it's issues. They seem to be about .005 off from the real deal on the width of the bevel to seat the micro. This is an issue with more than 1 of the mounts I have access to. They also have a little more gap to the base of the rings. I have yet to lap this cap to get a better purchase on the optic but I'm sure that will solve that issue. The finish is also a bit rough compared to the real Wilcox. Not an issue just a difference. The real Wilcox is almost slick. It's a good piece it's just got a few QC issues that have been sent to the party who made these, and he has offered to send another to make sure it's got 100% fitment. I went ahead and filed down just a hair on the surfaces which were hindering the T1 to fully seat and mount flat on the cap. It now mounts perfectly flat. Pics: Before filing: https://i.imgur.com/GX8f3OK.jpg After filing: https://i.imgur.com/vZX7NVc.jpg Spots that need filing: https://i.imgur.com/3wvGyGo.jpg Sight picture: https://i.imgur.com/Dbdaf85.jpg Final product: https://i.imgur.com/yFhD6KP.jpg Great information, thanks bud. I bought both. Not sure which one I’m going to end up using. |
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Posted: 9/6/2022 3:47:21 PM EDT
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Anyone have any pics of a AFSOC 416 with NF 2.5-10x24 with Wilcox DR mount. Have the scope on my scar17 but thinking of building a mr556 with that setup
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Posted: 9/6/2022 5:59:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By leemore: Anyone have any pics of a AFSOC 416 with NF 2.5-10x24 with Wilcox DR mount. Have the scope on my scar17 but thinking of building a mr556 with that setup No, because AFSOC did not use the 2.5-10x24 on their 416 recces nor the Wilcox/Docter. That would be a SEAL setup on either a Mk 12 or Mk 17. They started with S&B Short Dot 1-4s, then NF 2.5-10x32, then Leupold Mk 6 1-6. |
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Posted: 9/6/2022 8:26:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: rbutcher]
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2022 8:43:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By leemore: Anyone have any pics of a AFSOC 416 with NF 2.5-10x24 with Wilcox DR mount. Have the scope on my scar17 but thinking of building a mr556 with that setup 416/x24 would be a seal rifle. I believe there is one in the OP with a jpoint. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/10/2022 6:04:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: thatdtmsguy]
[#9]
I got both of the rerpo mounts aswell. Trying out the T1/T2 mount now. Think ill be sticking with this setup.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/10/2022 6:13:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: stainlineho]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thatdtmsguy: I got both of the rerpo mounts aswell. Trying out the T1/T2 mount now. Think ill be sticking with this setup. https://i.postimg.cc/529bvmdB/Full-Size-Render.jpg How was the fitment on yours? Have to do any filing? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/11/2022 8:44:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: thatdtmsguy]
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My fitment was nice. Especially when i torqued it down. No gaps, checked it in the light as-well. No filing required on my end
 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/11/2022 5:20:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thatdtmsguy: My fitment was nice. Especially when i torqued it down. No gaps, checked it in the light as-well. No filing required on my end https://i.postimg.cc/cCSyrKbv/Full-Size-Render.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/MKzJwQB4/Full-Size-Render-2.jpg That's good to hear. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/15/2022 12:16:24 PM EDT
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anyone have a guess as to why 12.5" was used during the .300 blackout AAC guns were being tested? Thinking about starting a 12.5" build.
I posed the question to Proof Research, where John Clements is now working (worked at the command on implementing .300 blackout), as to why they offer 12.5" .300 blackout barrels, and they responded with "the 10.5 didn't sell as well". While that may be true, I just wonder if there's more to it than that. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/15/2022 12:31:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Omega9000: anyone have a guess as to why 12.5" was used during the .300 blackout AAC guns were being tested? Thinking about starting a 12.5" build. I posed the question to Proof Research, where John Clements is now working (worked at the command on implementing .300 blackout), as to why they offer 12.5" .300 blackout barrels, and they responded with "the 10.5 didn't sell as well". While that may be true, I just wonder if there's more to it than that. I'd say better velocities for supers. Primo rocked the 9" with SF AAC never offered a 10.5" 300BLK rifle. |
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Posted: 9/15/2022 7:16:26 PM EDT
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Saw this picture in a restaurant in va beach close to the naval base.
Cool configuration. VXIII with tall capped turrets? The elusive KAC rings or Badger?  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 12:43:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stagepaint: Saw this picture in a restaurant in va beach close to the naval base. Cool configuration. VXIII with tall capped turrets? The elusive KAC rings or Badger? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219864/D29F2673-5CE1-487F-A5AF-CAE8E7837BEC_jpe-2527511.JPG KAC rings, NSW run of the Vari-X III with the precision turrets and football mildots iirc. They're a bit different from the commercial/LE versions. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/16/2022 1:51:23 PM EDT
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I noticed afsoc is using some 12.5 LMT Spec war uppers with either NX8’s or atacrs on them. Would that be kosher in this thread or is there another one they would fit better in?
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/16/2022 1:52:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stagepaint: Saw this picture in a restaurant in va beach close to the naval base. Cool configuration. VXIII with tall capped turrets? The elusive KAC rings or Badger? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219864/D29F2673-5CE1-487F-A5AF-CAE8E7837BEC_jpe-2527511.JPG That’s Terry Houin. He was also involved with captain Phillips |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/16/2022 2:31:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boduke0220: I noticed afsoc is using some 12.5 LMT Spec war uppers with either NX8’s or atacrs on them. Would that be kosher in this thread or is there another one they would fit better in? Bring 'em in. Let's see the ITW pics first though. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 5:59:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lancecriminal86: KAC rings, NSW run of the Vari-X III with the precision turrets and football mildots iirc. They're a bit different from the commercial/LE versions. Very cool. I wonder if the dot on the top ring just ended up being in the middle of the elevation turret haha. Might just use it like the OEGs of Trijicon BAC I suppose . Originally Posted By Boduke0220: That’s Terry Houin. He was also involved with captain Phillips Nice, didn’t know who it was. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 6:23:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ICU]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86: KAC rings, NSW run of the Vari-X III with the precision turrets and football mildots iirc. They're a bit different from the commercial/LE versions. I have this scope... Its a VXIII Tactical, comes w/ a black ring instead of gold. 1/8moa turrets in 4.5-14.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 12:20:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ICU: I have this scope... Its a VXIII Tactical, comes w/ a black ring instead of gold. 1/8moa turrets in 4.5-14. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/16226/IMG_2865_PNG-2528637.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/16226/IMG_2866_jpg-2528646.JPG The NSW ones were 3-9 or 2.5-8, whichever wasn't in the Mil/LE catalog at the time. I've seen one around that came off of one of those guns. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2022 9:19:02 AM EDT
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Ol girl next to her new big sister.
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Posted: 9/17/2022 1:05:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boduke0220: That’s Terry Houin. He was also involved with captain Phillips He mentions his recce rifle on Mike Ritlands podcast.  Captain Phillips & Extortion 17 with Terry Houin | Mike Drop: Episode 65 |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 11:47:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86: The NSW ones were 3-9 or 2.5-8, whichever wasn't in the Mil/LE catalog at the time. I've seen one around that came off of one of those guns. Ah, makes sense, I purchased mine from an LE/SWAT guy. I was never sure if it was a special factory run or one of the 'Premiere" modified ones. Thanks for the info... |
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Posted: 9/18/2022 7:53:18 AM EDT
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Quote Historyoh shitttttttt. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/18/2022 1:04:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Bring 'em in. Let's see the ITW pics first though. Ask and you shall Receive! these 2 pics are the best, the others dont show much detail. They appear to be on Colt lowers and using NX8's in Larue Mounts?  Untitled by Trey Brown, on Flickr Untitled by Trey Brown, on Flickr
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Posted: 9/21/2022 1:06:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boduke0220: Ask and you shall Receive! these 2 pics are the best, the others dont show much detail. They appear to be on Colt lowers and using NX8's in Larue Mounts? https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52367151720_94117c7f5b_c.jpgUntitled by Trey Brown, on Flickr https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52365788767_e4b114dc3d_c.jpgUntitled by Trey Brown, on Flickr Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boduke0220: Originally Posted By Eyekahn: Bring 'em in. Let's see the ITW pics first though. Ask and you shall Receive! these 2 pics are the best, the others dont show much detail. They appear to be on Colt lowers and using NX8's in Larue Mounts? https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52367151720_94117c7f5b_c.jpgUntitled by Trey Brown, on Flickr https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52365788767_e4b114dc3d_c.jpgUntitled by Trey Brown, on Flickr That top pic is a NF Unimount. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2022 7:28:08 AM EDT
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So...i found some land in Montana. I work remotely and have been dreaming of moving out there for pretty much since i got out of the Marines a few years ago. Decided to let some things go to make this move happen. I have thinned my Collection down to my 11.5 URGI and this FF RAS. i ordered all the Parts to turn it into an NSW Recce. I'll be running a BA 16" Barrel until CLE gets my 15.1 1.7.7 Barrel done. I think i will run an NX8 on it. i wish the Model with the FC-DMX reticle from the atacr would drop soon. I would love a Recon Nav Spec X24 but i just cant pay those prices for that scope. i could probably stomach 2k but sheesh not 2800+. But anyways i will keep you all updated. My OCM5 should be ordered this week too.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/28/2022 7:27:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: beefboi99]
[#30]
I have a medium RAS posted in EE if anyone is looking.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/equipment-exchange/KAC-FF-RAS-Medium-Rail/159-2291484/ |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/1/2022 9:42:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boduke0220: Ask and you shall Receive! these 2 pics are the best, the others dont show much detail. They appear to be on Colt lowers and using NX8's in Larue Mounts? https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52367151720_94117c7f5b_c.jpgUntitled by Trey Brown, on Flickr https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52365788767_e4b114dc3d_c.jpgUntitled by Trey Brown, on Flickr |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/1/2022 10:32:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner63a: FDE .40 G22 SOCOM Magazines? Those are Sig M17 mags of the 21 round variety. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 10/1/2022 10:35:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner63a: FDE .40 G22 SOCOM Magazines? Those look like Sig P320/M17/M18 21-round mags: 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/2/2022 4:32:34 PM EDT
[#34]
Snagged an X24 today. Just waiting on my Centurion Barrel to show up and we will have ourselves a Recce!
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USA
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Posted: 10/5/2022 8:06:45 PM EDT
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Stumbled across a few photos of the current NSW Recce rifle
  
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/6/2022 3:51:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boduke0220: Snagged an X24 today. Just waiting on my Centurion Barrel to show up and we will have ourselves a Recce! You already let that thing go bud? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/6/2022 9:42:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stainlineho: You already let that thing go bud? Yeaaaa. After using a leupold MK5 on my mk12 for almost a year, i kind of knew when i bought it what i would think but i wanted to try it. it did have really nice glass but as soon as i looked through it i knew id have to get something else lol. Barrel showed up today. Hopefully i can decide on an optic. Leaning towards a H27D Mk8 if i can find one, although not correct i imagine they were probably in some arms rooms around the same times. Quick Mock up with my new H&R Lower. These are nice!  Untitled by Trey Brown, on Flickr |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/7/2022 8:57:16 AM EDT
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Everyone’s different. Personally I love getting behind the x24. Especially when prone. Just a great piece of glass.
Not sure what the NSW will look like with anything else! |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 9:07:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stainlineho: Everyone’s different. Personally I love getting behind the x24. Especially when prone. Just a great piece of glass. Not sure what the NSW will look like with anything else! Same, I've been waiting patiently for a C538 to pop up in the EE. Already have the hard part (the rail) sitting on the shelf collecting dust. Just need glass and a barrel setup. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/7/2022 10:28:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boduke0220: Yeaaaa. After using a leupold MK5 on my mk12 for almost a year, i kind of knew when i bought it what i would think but i wanted to try it. it did have really nice glass but as soon as i looked through it i knew id have to get something else lol. Barrel showed up today. Hopefully i can decide on an optic. Leaning towards a H27D Mk8 if i can find one, although not correct i imagine they were probably in some arms rooms around the same times. Quick Mock up with my new H&R Lower. These are nice! https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52410174750_af58e1c62d_c.jpgUntitled by Trey Brown, on Flickr Sold it before you actually got behind it and shot it? |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 3:02:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boduke0220: Yeaaaa. After using a leupold MK5 on my mk12 for almost a year, i kind of knew when i bought it what i would think but i wanted to try it. it did have really nice glass but as soon as i looked through it i knew id have to get something else lol. Barrel showed up today. Hopefully i can decide on an optic. Leaning towards a H27D Mk8 if i can find one, although not correct i imagine they were probably in some arms rooms around the same times. Quick Mock up with my new H&R Lower. These are nice! https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52410174750_af58e1c62d_c.jpgUntitled by Trey Brown, on Flickr You can do a 2.5-10x32 with the Lilja barrel. You’re kinda limited on optics before you step outside of the NSW recce and into more of a GWOT build. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/7/2022 6:22:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Sold it before you actually got behind it and shot it? This isn’t my first, or 2nd x24. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/7/2022 6:26:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013: You can do a 2.5-10x32 with the Lilja barrel. You’re kinda limited on optics before you step outside of the NSW recce and into more of a GWOT build. Those are really cool builds too. the accuracy of those Lilja’s is amazing. I’ll prob go to something like the mk5 or ecos Mk6 and just refrain from posting it. We’ll see, extending my personal range at home another 100 yards so my hands are full with that project for a while! |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/8/2022 7:59:16 AM EDT
[#44]
 Big recce little recce |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 1:53:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryShaaaawing! |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/9/2022 9:57:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryNice big Recce. Looking at purchasing an ADM UIC-10A 16” .308 when I can find one. |
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Posted: 10/9/2022 1:20:52 PM EDT
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/9/2022 5:58:56 PM EDT
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Finally rang the 700M plate with the NSW. Then I started blowing primers cos this load was HOT and the brass was on its last leg.
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Posted: 10/9/2022 7:53:04 PM EDT
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/9/2022 8:19:07 PM EDT
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