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Originally Posted By jollyroger1969: Quick question. What's the preferred clone BUIS these days? I've seen everything from nothing to KAC fronts to magpuls on the pics. I have a 14.5" and a 10.5 I need to finish out. View Quote In order of numbers I've seen on guns down range Matech KAC 600m KAC 300m CD |
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Originally Posted By akguy1985: Seconded. I made the mistake of trying to buy a URGI upper from them. I ordered it back on 02-03 and still haven't gotten it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By akguy1985: Originally Posted By cjwwd2: Do not buy from CCC, bunch of hacks Seconded. I made the mistake of trying to buy a URGI upper from them. I ordered it back on 02-03 and still haven't gotten it. F, not that geissele is much better on timeline but if charlies website said they have them they should have them. I only ordered on thing from them and had to get a refund after months of excuses and them babysitting my $1200. |
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: These early Gen 1 B5 SOPMODs - anyone know if any are in stock anywhere? Or have these completely dried up? View Quote I have 2 I'm thinking of selling, send me an email if your interested. They're the ones with no qd sockets if that's what you mean by gen1 Coyote color |
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I finally shot my Black Friday URG-I upper today. Ran like a champ, Wolf Gold un-surpressed ejected at 4 o’clock with sold bolt hold opens. Makes me think it’s well gassed for back and forth between suppressed and un-suppressed, but I won’t know for sure until mine gets out of jail.
We were out with friends (shh, don’t tell) so I didn’t have a chance to sight it in or do an accuracy test, but it did seem like a smooth shooter |
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Originally Posted By ThRob: Carbine length gas?? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ThRob: Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049: https://i.ibb.co/KNnzvMg/EB93-DC34-C5-CF-4-F13-83-E1-58012-E081-AFF.jpg Carbine length gas?? Thanks @BurtSaun1049 for posting that for me... my regular image hosting site was down for a couple days there.. Ya temporarily a C Socom Bbl... I’m in the hunt to replace it with a dd mid ASAP though. I got the MK16 and the g33 in the mail last week and couldn’t wait to build it. anybody has a spare DD Middy up for sale/barter hit me up(if it has a pinned 4p we can work something out).. . since the ranges are on lockdown this Socom has 0 rounds(as of today anyway) I usually have a C gov profile or two floating around too. I picked up a Mueller upper on EE the other day that I’ll swap out too, that way I can use the Colt Cerro for another build down the road. |
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Originally Posted By Conner378: Cool issued gun with some arisaka accesories and nightforce nx8 https://i.postimg.cc/RhTFyDVm/95712-D59-4-DA4-4-D1-B-BA87-869840-BC2733.jpg View Quote I've been trying to decide between the NX8 (30mm tube) and the ATACR (34mm). I think you have both @Conner378? In your opinion what's better? Is the low ED glass and extra 4mm worth the price jump? Other then that the NX8 has exposed elevation adjustments while the ATACR has capped turrets. |
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Originally Posted By Conner378: Cool issued gun with some arisaka accesories and nightforce nx8 https://i.postimg.cc/RhTFyDVm/95712-D59-4-DA4-4-D1-B-BA87-869840-BC2733.jpg View Quote Whoa, sure is. Dude knows whats up. I have both inline and offsets from arisaka and can't get a Surefire body tucked under a Peq like that. Maybe different body or mount setup? |
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What's the word on G making these rails available again? I know they are super backordered and their CS has allegedly taken a hit...
I am looking to build an upper and need a rail. I would prefer the correct G rail as this upper is for real world use, not a range gun. Maybe an alternate rail? |
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Originally Posted By FedDC: What's the word on G making these rails available again? I know they are super backordered and their CS has allegedly taken a hit... I am looking to build an upper and need a rail. I would prefer the correct G rail as this upper is for real world use, not a range gun. Maybe an alternate rail? View Quote I hadn't even noticed. No MK16s available at all and no MK16s on any rifles. 13.5"s are listed on URGs but you can't order them. No 10.5"s anywhere. Maybe Geissele isn't going to sell them anymore. |
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Originally Posted By 2Keylows: Whoa, sure is. Dude knows whats up. I have both inline and offsets from arisaka and can't get a Surefire body tucked under a Peq like that. Maybe different body or mount setup? https://i.imgur.com/vTSQR4J.jpg View Quote Looks like the off set mount but mounted on the 2 o'clock slot? |
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Originally Posted By Conner378: Cool issued gun with some arisaka accesories and nightforce nx8 https://i.postimg.cc/RhTFyDVm/95712-D59-4-DA4-4-D1-B-BA87-869840-BC2733.jpg View Quote Holy shit balls - that Nightforce looks damn good on that gun... |
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Originally Posted By pezboytate: I hadn't even noticed. No MK16s available at all and no MK16s on any rifles. 13.5"s are listed on URGs but you can't order them. No 10.5"s anywhere. Maybe Geissele isn't going to sell them anymore. View Quote Panic!! LOL I just looked and it looks like the super duty rifle and pistol lineup has been converted over to normal G rails. I could have sworn those were initially built with MK16 rails? MK16 rails still showing on the menu, just OOS at the moment. Link From a business standpoint I wouldn't be surprised if they stopped making these rails. Big army likely wont order more. they can use normal G rails for the super duty series and don't have to have the added expense of manufacturing an entirely different dimensioned rail, just for us. More profit for G in using the standard rails. |
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Can somebody give me the TL;DR version of what is going on with the Army and the URG-I?
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Can somebody give me the TL;DR version of what is going on with the Army and the URG-I? View Quote @wayfaerer320 They're issuing the kits they bought. Several people have mentioned the guys on the ground are very happy with them. There is question of whether they will continue to buy more as the current nsn is marked something to the effect of "one time purchase" |
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Originally Posted By shelbysguns: @wayfaerer320 They're issuing the kits they bought. Several people have mentioned the guys on the ground are very happy with them. There is question of whether they will continue to buy more as the current nsn is marked something to the effect of "one time purchase" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By shelbysguns: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Can somebody give me the TL;DR version of what is going on with the Army and the URG-I? @wayfaerer320 They're issuing the kits they bought. Several people have mentioned the guys on the ground are very happy with them. There is question of whether they will continue to buy more as the current nsn is marked something to the effect of "one time purchase" Thanks! I wonder if @Combat_Diver knows anything at all about this... |
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Thanks! I wonder if @Combat_Diver knows anything at all about this... View Quote USASOC still using the kits they bought. If I have a damage URGI down range, Crane takes a new kit and sends me the parts. Nothing new on my end if they are going to replace the 10.3" URGs with 11.5" URGIs either. CD |
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Originally Posted By Conner378: F, not that geissele is much better on timeline but if charlies website said they have them they should have them. I only ordered on thing from them and had to get a refund after months of excuses and them babysitting my $1200. View Quote Well, when I ordered it, it showed in stock, then about five mins later it changed to back order, and has been back ordered ever since. I have been going round and round with them about my refund the last three weeks. I filed a dispute with my bank because they dont want to give up my refund. |
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Originally Posted By delta_romeo_echo: I've been trying to decide between the NX8 (30mm tube) and the ATACR (34mm). I think you have both @Conner378? In your opinion what's better? Is the low ED glass and extra 4mm worth the price jump? Other then that the NX8 has exposed elevation adjustments while the ATACR has capped turrets. View Quote Size/weight are priority, and spending most of your time at lower powers? NX8. Size (and price) won't be a deciding factor, and you can use the extra optical capability? ATACR. |
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Originally Posted By delta_romeo_echo: I've been trying to decide between the NX8 (30mm tube) and the ATACR (34mm). I think you have both @Conner378? In your opinion what's better? Is the low ED glass and extra 4mm worth the price jump? Other then that the NX8 has exposed elevation adjustments while the ATACR has capped turrets. View Quote Using both, I like the Nx8 more. But thats subjective to me. The ATACR feels like it belongs on a crew served weapon when you put it next to the nx8 but the reticle is a lot more useful at higher magnification on the atacr. People complain about the eye box on the nx8 but usually those people want red dot performance on a lpvo which isnt going to happen. I love the size and weight of the nx8. Not my pic just one from the web but here is a atacr vs nx8 and one of the older 1-4- Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Conner378: Using both, I like the Nx8 more. But thats subjective to me. The ATACR feels like it belongs on a crew served weapon when you put it next to the nx8 but the reticle is a lot more useful at higher magnification on the atacr. People complain about the eye box on the nx8 but usually those people want red dot performance on a lpvo which isnt going to happen. I love the size and weight of the nx8. Not my pic just one from the web but here is a atacr vs nx8 and one of the older 1-4- https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/448813/s_jpg-1343284.JPG View Quote Holy crap, I didn't realize the difference that extreme. |
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Originally Posted By Conner378: People complain about the eye box on the nx8 but usually those people want red dot performance on a lpvo which isnt going to happen. I love the size and weight of the nx8. View Quote Same. Sure, coming from a Razor II or Kahles, the NX-8 isn't as 'forgiving', but it's an easy optic to get and stay behind. But if you have been running a Razor II and are used to just throwing the optic up near your face, that sloppy technique will need to be corrected to get the same speed with an NX8. To me the NX-8 is a great package for a 14.5-16" AR - like all things firearms related, it's a continuing series of "what I want to do" coupled with "trade offs". |
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Originally Posted By phlegm: I've got both. Though the ATACR has obviously better glass, they both have their place. Size/weight are priority, and spending most of your time at lower powers? NX8. Size (and price) won't be a deciding factor, and you can use the extra optical capability? ATACR. View Quote I also have both, prefer NX8 for 5.56 guns. |
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Speaking of optics - is there a list of clone approved optics for this upper?
Or is it more of just what we've seen on issued guns? |
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Speaking of optics - is there a list of clone approved optics for this upper? Or is it more of just what we've seen on issued guns? View Quote "Correct" would be the aimpoints (t2, comps), elcan su230 and eotech su231. But a little bit of everything has been seen on these so far. |
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Originally Posted By JLAudio: Panic!! LOL I just looked and it looks like the super duty rifle and pistol lineup has been converted over to normal G rails. I could have sworn those were initially built with MK16 rails? MK16 rails still showing on the menu, just OOS at the moment. Link From a business standpoint I wouldn't be surprised if they stopped making these rails. Big army likely wont order more. they can use normal G rails for the super duty series and don't have to have the added expense of manufacturing an entirely different dimensioned rail, just for us. More profit for G in using the standard rails. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JLAudio: Originally Posted By pezboytate: I hadn't even noticed. No MK16s available at all and no MK16s on any rifles. 13.5"s are listed on URGs but you can't order them. No 10.5"s anywhere. Maybe Geissele isn't going to sell them anymore. Panic!! LOL I just looked and it looks like the super duty rifle and pistol lineup has been converted over to normal G rails. I could have sworn those were initially built with MK16 rails? MK16 rails still showing on the menu, just OOS at the moment. Link From a business standpoint I wouldn't be surprised if they stopped making these rails. Big army likely wont order more. they can use normal G rails for the super duty series and don't have to have the added expense of manufacturing an entirely different dimensioned rail, just for us. More profit for G in using the standard rails. Yep, the Duty rifles and uppers had MK16s and now they have MK8s. Geissele is quiet about everything so who knows. |
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Does anyone know if there is any difference between Geissele's Vortex 1-6 specific super precision mount vs just their standard 30mm 0moa super precision mount?
It looks like the same thing, but maybe I'm missing something? Comparing these two: https://geissele.com/sopmod-certified-super-precision-scope-mount-30mm-for-ar-15-platform.html https://geissele.com/ar15-m4-super-precision-scope-mount.html#scope_mount_length=82&tube_size=86&cant=84&material=88&color=15 |
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Does anyone know if there is any difference between Geissele's Vortex 1-6 specific super precision mount vs just their standard 30mm 0moa super precision mount? It looks like the same thing, but maybe I'm missing something? Comparing these two: https://geissele.com/sopmod-certified-super-precision-scope-mount-30mm-for-ar-15-platform.html https://geissele.com/ar15-m4-super-precision-scope-mount.html#scope_mount_length=82&tube_size=86&cant=84&material=88&color=15 View Quote Pretty sure it is exactly the same. |
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Originally Posted By Will816: But different part numbers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Will816: Originally Posted By india13c: Pretty sure it is exactly the same. But different part numbers. Yeah - that's about the only thing that seemed different to me - different SKUs. |
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Does anyone know if there is any difference between Geissele's Vortex 1-6 specific super precision mount vs just their standard 30mm 0moa super precision mount? It looks like the same thing, but maybe I'm missing something? Comparing these two: https://geissele.com/sopmod-certified-super-precision-scope-mount-30mm-for-ar-15-platform.html https://geissele.com/ar15-m4-super-precision-scope-mount.html#scope_mount_length=82&tube_size=86&cant=84&material=88&color=15 View Quote The word is the sopmod mount is using slightly different ring spacing designed specifically for the razor. Otherwise theyre basically the same. |
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More questions that hopefully somebody knows the answers to...
What are the specific models and reticles being issued to the .gov for the SIG Tango6 and Nightforce ATACR 1-8? (these are the two LPVOs that recently won contracts, right?) And do they/will they offer the same .gov models to the civilian market? Or are they already? Been out of the loop for a while, so I'm trying to catch up. |
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: More questions that hopefully somebody knows the answers to... What are the specific models and reticles being issued to the .gov for the SIG Tango6 and Nightforce ATACR 1-8? (these are the two LPVOs that recently won contracts, right?) And do they/will they offer the same .gov models to the civilian market? Or are they already? Been out of the loop for a while, so I'm trying to catch up. View Quote Neither have been fielded. Both are supposed to be a FDE tan type finish. I’ve heard both are supposed to have a bullet drop compensator. Not sure if they’re doing m855a1 or mk 262 or m80a1 and m118lr. |
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: More questions that hopefully somebody knows the answers to... What are the specific models and reticles being issued to the .gov for the SIG Tango6 and Nightforce ATACR 1-8? (these are the two LPVOs that recently won contracts, right?) And do they/will they offer the same .gov models to the civilian market? Or are they already? Been out of the loop for a while, so I'm trying to catch up. View Quote I talked to someone at NF in the .gov sales department the other day. The way he made it sound is that it's the normal ATACR 1-8x just in FDE. There is only one reticle offered in the 1-8x. He also said that they will not be released, in FDE, until the bean counters see a demand from their commercial sales people. He recommended writing/emailing their commercial sales dept to help the process along. |
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Originally Posted By ArmyPilot12: I talked to someone at NF in the .gov sales department the other day. The way he made it sound is that it's the normal ATACR 1-8x just in FDE. There is only one reticle offered in the 1-8x. He also said that they will not be released, in FDE, until the bean counters see a demand from their commercial sales people. He recommended writing/emailing their commercial sales dept to help the process along. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ArmyPilot12: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: More questions that hopefully somebody knows the answers to... What are the specific models and reticles being issued to the .gov for the SIG Tango6 and Nightforce ATACR 1-8? (these are the two LPVOs that recently won contracts, right?) And do they/will they offer the same .gov models to the civilian market? Or are they already? Been out of the loop for a while, so I'm trying to catch up. I talked to someone at NF in the .gov sales department the other day. The way he made it sound is that it's the normal ATACR 1-8x just in FDE. There is only one reticle offered in the 1-8x. He also said that they will not be released, in FDE, until the bean counters see a demand from their commercial sales people. He recommended writing/emailing their commercial sales dept to help the process along. I feel like this should be painfully obvious by now in this industry. It's such a simple, but effective marketing campaign - "use what they use." Then again, maybe I'm overestimating the number of people interested in owning gear the military uses for their own purposes. |
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: I feel like this should be painfully obvious by now in this industry. It's such a simple, but effective marketing campaign - "use what they use." Then again, maybe I'm overestimating the number of people interested in owning gear the military uses for their own purposes. View Quote NF doesn't have to use that shtick to sell product and I wouldn't be surprised if they make more money on the commercial side than they do on the .mil side. The guy I talked to said that most of the FDE ATACRs would end up painted anyways. |
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