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Originally Posted By 02Overlander:
11.5 - 12.5, compact w/ a can but still has some reach. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f160/HDHNTER/IMG_20170205_160841_zpsef7l4bob.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 02Overlander:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
What are you gents finding to be the ideal barrel length for a mini-recce? I'm planning to build one around a chopped FF RAS, NT4 Corncob, and hopefully a 2.5-10x24mm NF NXS with a piggyback RMR. Talk to me. 11.5 - 12.5, compact w/ a can but still has some reach. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f160/HDHNTER/IMG_20170205_160841_zpsef7l4bob.jpg Yeah I'm leaning towards 12.5" as of right now. |
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Originally Posted By 02Overlander:
If you're not hung up on the NT4, the AEM2 rocks on a 12.5 & w/ the short barrel extension for the brake & collar... you end w/ the velocity benefits of 13.5 in a MK18'ish OAL. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 02Overlander:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Yeah I'm leaning towards 12.5" as of right now. If you're not hung up on the NT4, the AEM2 rocks on a 12.5 & w/ the short barrel extension for the brake & collar... you end w/ the velocity benefits of 13.5 in a MK18'ish OAL. I'm not hung on it. It's just, well, Corncob is life. I must have one. So yeah, I'm hung on it, lol. |
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Originally Posted By 02Overlander:
11.5 - 12.5, compact w/ a can but still has some reach. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f160/HDHNTER/IMG_20170205_160841_zpsef7l4bob.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 02Overlander:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
What are you gents finding to be the ideal barrel length for a mini-recce? I'm planning to build one around a chopped FF RAS, NT4 Corncob, and hopefully a 2.5-10x24mm NF NXS with a piggyback RMR. Talk to me. 11.5 - 12.5, compact w/ a can but still has some reach. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f160/HDHNTER/IMG_20170205_160841_zpsef7l4bob.jpg I approach the mini recce ideology like a seesaw; you can emphasize the mini or you can emphasize the recce. Some builds hit that sweet spot and you get perfect balance between both. I obviously emphasized the mini more and went with a 10.5 barrel and a 1.5-5x Leupold. With the 2.5-10x, you're giving yourself a swath of range options. I think putting the NXS on a 12.5 would put you close to that perfect place. Short enough for cqb, but can still contend at ranges that require 10 power magnification. Just this stupid civy's opinion |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Yeah I'm leaning towards 12.5" as of right now. View Quote It is quickly becoming my favorite barrel length for use with the AEM5. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By OneRanger:
13.7 https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-0/q81/p526x296/16601690_10208616789237406_4922908410926616098_o.jpg?oh=d42a8d61a8a6408f1d4211dd6226c2bb&oe=593D4AF7 View Quote I'm digging the new setup, and welcome back haven't seen you post here in awhile. Is that a CQBL/M952 setup? Just looks weird from that angle. |
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Originally Posted By Hunterex:
It is quickly becoming my favorite barrel length for use with the AEM5. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59096/miniholland2-141036.JPG View Quote My 10.5" 300BLK w/ the .30 12th totals out close to the same OAL, well balanced. |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
What are you gents finding to be the ideal barrel length for a mini-recce? I'm planning to build one around a chopped FF RAS, NT4 Corncob, and hopefully a 2.5-10x24mm NF NXS with a piggyback RMR. Talk to me. View Quote I am digging the 12.5 right now. I had it out yesterday in the snow, and we were popping Tannerite at 250 as we could range it with all the snow falling. I love that thing. I need more scope, the Razor 1-6 is all I thought I would need with the 12.5, but I want to go far, now. The AAC Mini is perfect on that length. My 11.5s are cool, but I shoot the 12.5 more than anything, now. The 13.7 Infidel barrel is collecting lint in the safe. |
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Originally Posted By OneRanger:
It is, perhaps a mini scout in the future, but for now I like the one I acquired and rocked my whole mil career. https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-0/p526x296/16487563_10208619321100701_2827128113301325327_o.jpg?oh=8ac5d83027951645bad339ae51acdcfb&oe=59445A32 View Quote Well I guess we can start he 13.7" CQBL mafia, of 2 people |
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Originally Posted By Alaska511:
I am digging the 12.5 right now. I had it out yesterday in the snow, and we were popping Tannerite at 250 as we could range it with all the snow falling. I love that thing. I need more scope, the Razor 1-6 is all I thought I would need with the 12.5, but I want to go far, now. The AAC Mini is perfect on that length. My 11.5s are cool, but I shoot the 12.5 more than anything, now. The 13.7 Infidel barrel is collecting lint in the safe. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Alaska511:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
What are you gents finding to be the ideal barrel length for a mini-recce? I'm planning to build one around a chopped FF RAS, NT4 Corncob, and hopefully a 2.5-10x24mm NF NXS with a piggyback RMR. Talk to me. I am digging the 12.5 right now. I had it out yesterday in the snow, and we were popping Tannerite at 250 as we could range it with all the snow falling. I love that thing. I need more scope, the Razor 1-6 is all I thought I would need with the 12.5, but I want to go far, now. The AAC Mini is perfect on that length. My 11.5s are cool, but I shoot the 12.5 more than anything, now. The 13.7 Infidel barrel is collecting lint in the safe. I'll be honest, a carbine-length rail and front sight post just don't give you enough room to comfortably hold the damn thing; think Mk18 Mod0 shorty... Anyways, slightly longer rail, mid-length gas, and a bombproof suppressor seems like the way to go, and it's just the cost of building another upper, which ain't shit. I've already got a spare BCG and Gasbuster laying around. It's really a matter of finding a FF RAS for a fair price and bending over to get the NT4. I plan to share the optic with my SR25 recce build, so why not? |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
I'll be honest, a carbine-length rail and front sight post just don't give you enough room to comfortably hold the damn thing; think Mk18 Mod0 shorty... Anyways, slightly longer rail, mid-length gas, and a bombproof suppressor seems like the way to go, and it's just the cost of building another upper, which ain't shit. I've already got a spare BCG and Gasbuster laying around. It's really a matter of finding a FF RAS for a fair price and bending over to get the NT4. I plan to share the optic with my SR25 recce build, so why not? View Quote If you can wait a couple months, it seems they usually release a run in the spring/early summer time frame. Should be able to grab one at OP. I'm holding off on several purchases to pick up a pair. One for a mod juan, one for a seal recce. Not going fast on either build, mind you. But I was sad when I had to sell my HCS mod 1 upper so I want to build a new one. |
Cunnilingus aside, that is fucking awesome.
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Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
If you can wait a couple months, it seems they usually release a run in the spring/early summer time frame. Should be able to grab one at OP. I'm holding off on several purchases to pick up a pair. One for a mod juan, one for a seal recce. Not going fast on either build, mind you. But I was sad when I had to sell my HCS mod 1 upper so I want to build a new one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
I'll be honest, a carbine-length rail and front sight post just don't give you enough room to comfortably hold the damn thing; think Mk18 Mod0 shorty... Anyways, slightly longer rail, mid-length gas, and a bombproof suppressor seems like the way to go, and it's just the cost of building another upper, which ain't shit. I've already got a spare BCG and Gasbuster laying around. It's really a matter of finding a FF RAS for a fair price and bending over to get the NT4. I plan to share the optic with my SR25 recce build, so why not? If you can wait a couple months, it seems they usually release a run in the spring/early summer time frame. Should be able to grab one at OP. I'm holding off on several purchases to pick up a pair. One for a mod juan, one for a seal recce. Not going fast on either build, mind you. But I was sad when I had to sell my HCS mod 1 upper so I want to build a new one. Yeah I'm in no rush. |
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Originally Posted By 02Overlander:
My 10.5" 300BLK w/ the .30 12th totals out close to the same OAL, well balanced. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f160/HDHNTER/IMG_20170130_132103_zpsyzf0zach.jpg View Quote Your rifle went a long way towards making me want to try out the suppressor under the Gen III myself. |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
I'll be honest, a carbine-length rail and front sight post just don't give you enough room to comfortably hold the damn thing; think Mk18 Mod0 shorty... Anyways, slightly longer rail, mid-length gas, and a bombproof suppressor seems like the way to go, and it's just the cost of building another upper, which ain't shit. I've already got a spare BCG and Gasbuster laying around. It's really a matter of finding a FF RAS for a fair price and bending over to get the NT4. I plan to share the optic with my SR25 recce build, so why not? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By Alaska511:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
What are you gents finding to be the ideal barrel length for a mini-recce? I'm planning to build one around a chopped FF RAS, NT4 Corncob, and hopefully a 2.5-10x24mm NF NXS with a piggyback RMR. Talk to me. I am digging the 12.5 right now. I had it out yesterday in the snow, and we were popping Tannerite at 250 as we could range it with all the snow falling. I love that thing. I need more scope, the Razor 1-6 is all I thought I would need with the 12.5, but I want to go far, now. The AAC Mini is perfect on that length. My 11.5s are cool, but I shoot the 12.5 more than anything, now. The 13.7 Infidel barrel is collecting lint in the safe. I'll be honest, a carbine-length rail and front sight post just don't give you enough room to comfortably hold the damn thing; think Mk18 Mod0 shorty... Anyways, slightly longer rail, mid-length gas, and a bombproof suppressor seems like the way to go, and it's just the cost of building another upper, which ain't shit. I've already got a spare BCG and Gasbuster laying around. It's really a matter of finding a FF RAS for a fair price and bending over to get the NT4. I plan to share the optic with my SR25 recce build, so why not? True. My 12.5 has a 11" NSR, and I have a 13" MK6 on my 13.7 I am totally building a 12.5" midlength, next. I know it can be done In other news, one of my WAY overpriced KAC front sights broke on my 12.5. We put 500 rounds through it, and the damned front sight fell in the snow. The clamp split in half |
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Originally Posted By 02Overlander:
12.5" / AEM2 / URXII / Fostech Echo FCG http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f160/HDHNTER/IMG_20161227_152011441-01_zpsfpwndq4l.jpeg View Quote what barrel and gas system you running? waiting on my stamp for my 12.5" made from an omt mrp 14.5 carbine. plan to run with my aac spr/m4 miter. |
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Originally Posted By sevin8nin:
what barrel and gas system you running? waiting on my stamp for my 12.5" made from an omt mrp 14.5 carbine. plan to run with my aac spr/m4 miter. View Quote Ballistic Advantage / Carbine |
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Haven't checked in on this thread in a while, still as sexy as ever. I've got an AEM5 in jail and a spare SBR lower that needs a home. I'm thinking a 12.5 with a 1-4x may be just the ticket.
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Originally Posted By Hunterex:
Your rifle went a long way towards making me want to try out the suppressor under the Gen III myself. View Quote Well you returned the favor, now I'm thinking about a 12.5" 5.56 upper paired w/ a Gen III for my .22 12th. The AEM2 does a good job of reducing the bark... but it aint no 12th. |
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Originally Posted By Outrider:
Haven't checked in on this thread in a while, still as sexy as ever. I've got an AEM5 in jail and a spare SBR lower that needs a home. I'm thinking a 12.5 with a 1-4x may be just the ticket. View Quote The AEM5 is definitely not an ideal can on a short gun but it sounds good and it gets the job done if it's your only can. I'm currently in this same boat. Need to get a carbine can ASAP. |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
The AEM5 is definitely not an ideal can on a short gun but it sounds good and it gets the job done if it's your only can. I'm currently in this same boat. Need to get a carbine can ASAP. View Quote Valid point. Isn't a 12.5 the shortest you can go with the AEM5? Thought it would be neat to take advantage of that setup. I've also got a Gemtech Trek that would keep things on the smaller/lighter side. |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
The AEM5 is definitely not an ideal can on a short gun but it sounds good and it gets the job done if it's your only can. I'm currently in this same boat. Need to get a carbine can ASAP. View Quote I'd say "build a Ti form 1 can with SDTA parts" but the fuckers at ATF shut them down. |
Cunnilingus aside, that is fucking awesome.
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Man I should not have clicked on this thread.
Now I wanna build myself a 12.5 upper to pair with my omega can, that I should have any day now. Thanks to Overlander and Tanner B. This is gonna be the new project that takes over my funds. |
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Question: M4-2000 or Saker K ASR? I already have a SDN-6 and mounts and I hear the M42k sounds really nice, but for $20 more over the M42K I could get a Saker K and maintain a shorter/lighter system. Decisions, decisions... |
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Originally Posted By TheManimal:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/351914/NoveskeMR-142624.JPG Question: M4-2000 or Saker K ASR? I already have a SDN-6 and mounts and I hear the M42k sounds really nice, but for $20 more over the M42K I could get a Saker K and maintain a shorter/lighter system. Decisions, decisions... View Quote I find weight trumps nearly everything especially when hanging off the end of the barrel. I have a YHM stainless can originally bought for a piggly bolt rig, but has been pulling duty on a semi .308 and my .300blk along with a few other ARs. the blackout is likely to get a 9mm can down the road (so i can suppress the G19 as well) and i'm considering a Ti Phantom for the 5.56 guns to reduce weight that far forward, just to not throw the balance off as far as the stainless version does now. |
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I like it, esp the +$100 FDE. Finally zero'ed mine today, unfortunately at an indoor range @100'. Have you seen how visible the beam is outside at distance?
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Yeah I'm leaning towards 12.5" as of right now. View Quote Question. Do you plan on trimming the FF ras at all for the 12.5 barrel? Since the RAS is a 12" rail system? I have one sitting currently and have toyed with the idea of having a barrel chopped to 12.7 for it. |
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Originally Posted By Chincy:
Question. Do you plan on trimming the FF ras at all for the 12.5 barrel? Since the RAS is a 12" rail system? I have one sitting currently and have toyed with the idea of having a barrel chopped to 12.7 for it. View Quote Yeah, I'm planning to trim the first one or two notches off the front, depending on the math. ETA: Or not, I dunno; maybe it'd be better to not trim the rail and cut the barrel to fit the handguard. |
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Anyone using a FF RAS medium and OPS/AEM can? I want to build a mini recce with my RAS medium and an AEM5 and need to know what barrel length to use so the collar is right up against the rail
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Originally Posted By cjwwd2:
Anyone using a FF RAS medium and OPS/AEM can? I want to build a mini recce with my RAS medium and an AEM5 and need to know what barrel length to use so the collar is right up against the rail View Quote Judging by @usnguns information from the recce thread is looks like he's using a 15" barrel with the rifle length FF RAS. Medium RAS seems to be 10" in length (9.4" in rail length) per Quarterbore. Looks like you could get away with a 13" or so barrel. I imagine a midlength in this range could be a real sweet shooter when suppressed. Must. resist. the. temptation.... |
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Originally Posted By Outrider:
Judging by @usnguns information from the recce thread is looks like he's using a 15" barrel with the rifle length FF RAS. Medium RAS seems to be 10" in length (9.4" in rail length) per Quarterbore. Looks like you could get away with a 13" or so barrel. I imagine a midlength in this range could be a real sweet shooter when suppressed. Must. resist. the. temptation.... View Quote Yeah I saw his measurements too and it would be about 13". I could buy the rainer arms rock creek 13.7" and have it cut down.... ETA: damn, the 13.7" rock creek rainer mid-lengths are OOS and it seems they were a limited run item |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Yeah, I'm planning to trim the first one or two notches off the front, depending on the math. ETA: Or not, I dunno; maybe it'd be better to not trim the rail and cut the barrel to fit the handguard. View Quote See this was my thinking too. Rather chop a 160$ BA barrel to fit the Rail, then trim the 350$ rail that is only made a few times a year. I need to finish the Holland idea before I even start this project. |
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Originally Posted By NEASGNoMercy:
Going to build a dedicated 12.5 soon with an ALG rail. Just playing with my 10.5 SBR right now http://i63.tinypic.com/2n8yf43.jpg View Quote Shit son, that's hot in a non-clone sorta way. |
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Originally Posted By Hunterex:
It is quickly becoming my favorite barrel length for use with the AEM5. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59096/miniholland2-141036.JPG View Quote What barrel did you use? Was it already contoured? |
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Originally Posted By WillysJeep:
What barrel did you use? Was it already contoured? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By WillysJeep:
Originally Posted By Hunterex:
It is quickly becoming my favorite barrel length for use with the AEM5. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59096/miniholland2-141036.JPG What barrel did you use? Was it already contoured? Ballistic Advantage government profile with a M4 to AEM5 adapter. |
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Originally Posted By OneRanger:
I like it, esp the +$100 FDE. Finally zero'ed mine today, unfortunately at an indoor range @100'. Have you seen how visible the beam is outside at distance? View Quote I picked it up used on a screaming deal, so I let someone else pay the extra $100 for the color I've only been able to zero indoors as well. Everytime I plan to get to my outdoor range something comes up |
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Originally Posted By edwin907:
http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab302/sniper907/Afgan.jpg~original SpecWar 2 Suppressor not mounted (.05mm clearance from LT rail), and it usually wears a TA31. View Quote Always liked your builds. |
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