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Originally Posted By matticuski:
This is real nice, which rail system is that? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By matticuski:
Originally Posted By mcmillanman5_:
Here is my attempt at a RECCE style rilfle. Have had an aimpoint on the Noveske for years but found myself not using the rifle much. Decided to put an AAC ranger that I had laying around and picked up the vortex 1-6 and a geissele ssa-e. <a href="http://s207.photobucket.com/user/mcmillanman5/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdr61vfsb.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/mcmillanman5/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdr61vfsb.jpg</a> <a href="http://s207.photobucket.com/user/mcmillanman5/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpslv1bvrwm.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/mcmillanman5/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpslv1bvrwm.jpg</a> <a href="http://s207.photobucket.com/user/mcmillanman5/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsv3nns0bp.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/mcmillanman5/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsv3nns0bp.jpg</a> This is real nice, which rail system is that? Thanks! It is the Noveske marked rail that was made by SWS, think I picked this up from John sometime around 06-08. It has the KAC rail panel covers on too. |
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It's my opinion that the true SEAL recon rifles were used for more of a precision role while possessing the capability to be used in CQB if needed. I believe that these rifles may be used for over watch by SEAL snipers as well as the name implies, for recce's.
I've normally accepted that the recon rifle was used soley by the SEAL snipers within the unit. However there was information that did not mesh well so I've thought about this for a while. This is just my analysis and the only way to be sure is to get the info first hand but this is my take. I've read Mark Owen (an assaulter) mention that he had a 14.5" HK416 upper with a NF scope for longer engagements if needed. As many of you know we've been told that the HK416 with a 14.5" barrel and NF 2.5-10 is now the new recce rifle so that brings up a lot of questions as to who has a recce rifle or even if the HK416 with a 14.5" barrel is considered a the true successor to the recce rifle. So this info I've formed that the following two things are going on here: 1) SEAL snipers within DEVGRU are utilizing 14.5" HK416 uppers which are readily available to all of its members, not just snipers, and using it in the same role as the recon rifle. 2) Recon rifles in the "original" configuration are still in use. These sets of photos are actually pretty recent dating around 2011 or 2012. Using some logic I've narrowed down the time frame to between the Bin Laden raid and October 2012. In conclusion I think that the original recce rifle is still in use but may be only used by SEAL snipers while the 14.5" HK416 uppers are readily accessible to everyone including assaulters but are also used by a number of SEAL snipers as their choice to fill the same role as the recon rifle. As for CQB use. If any of you guys watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPFUWOYkrDE you see that Dom Raso uses the red dot to line up his sight picture with the target and then drops his head to use the scope. Using my clone for a while I found that I was using the red dot in a similar way. I believe this is why we see so many red dots in 12 o clock mounts instead of the usual 45 degrees we see with "gamer guns". While it indeed does provide a red dot for back up use and CQB one of it's other main purpose is to be used as a target acquisition aid i.e. a more precision rifle orientated use. If they were trying to find a gun that would be a well rounded performer they would have most likely gone with an offset red dot or a lower power variable scope. Secondly I have not seen a single white light on a recon rifle. If you guys have seen photos of assaulter's short HK416 rifles in the same unit you notice that all of them have a SF scout in a S&S precision mount. I think the lack of white light also points to a precision based rig. Third, once again connecting back to Dom Raso. He has a clone of a recon rifle and he has mentioned to me that it is a clone of his rifle he had in the service. I think a lot of signs point to him as being in some sort of designated marksman or potentially a sniper but I can not confirm. His photos in the service always shows him with a magnified optic on his rifle and is something that stands out to me, especially when all the photos of his unit have Eotech sights on their rifles. |
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Originally Posted By patriot_man: It's my opinion that the true SEAL recon rifles were used for more of a precision role while possessing the capability to be used in CQB if needed. I believe that these rifles may be used for over watch by SEAL snipers as well as the name implies, for recce's. I've normally accepted that the recon rifle was used soley by the SEAL snipers within the unit. However there was information that did not mesh well so I've thought about this for a while. This is just my analysis and the only way to be sure is to get the info first hand but this is my take. I've read Mark Owen (an assaulter) mention that he had a 14.5" HK416 upper with a NF scope for longer engagements if needed. As many of you know we've been told that the HK416 with a 14.5" barrel and NF 2.5-10 is now the new recce rifle so that brings up a lot of questions as to who has a recce rifle or even if the HK416 with a 14.5" barrel is considered a the true successor to the recce rifle. So this info I've formed that the following two things are going on here: 1) SEAL snipers within DEVGRU are utilizing 14.5" HK416 uppers which are readily available to all of its members, not just snipers, and using it in the same role as the recon rifle. 2) Recon rifles in the "original" configuration are still in use. These sets of photos are actually pretty recent dating around 2011 or 2012. Using some logic I've narrowed down the time frame to between the Bin Laden raid and October 2012. In conclusion I think that the original recce rifle is still in use but may be only used by SEAL snipers while the 14.5" HK416 uppers are readily accessible to everyone including assaulters but are also used by a number of SEAL snipers as their choice to fill the same role as the recon rifle. As for CQB use. If any of you guys watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPFUWOYkrDE you see that Dom Raso uses the red dot to line up his sight picture with the target and then drops his head to use the scope. Using my clone for a while I found that I was using the red dot in a similar way. I believe this is why we see so many red dots in 12 o clock mounts instead of the usual 45 degrees we see with "gamer guns". While it indeed does provide a red dot for back up use and CQB one of it's other main purpose is to be used as a target acquisition aid i.e. a more precision rifle orientated use. If they were trying to find a gun that would be a well rounded performer they would have most likely gone with an offset red dot or a lower power variable scope. Secondly I have not seen a single white light on a recon rifle. If you guys have seen photos of assaulter's short HK416 rifles in the same unit you notice that all of them have a SF scout in a S&S precision mount. I think the lack of white light also points to a precision based rig. Third, once again connecting back to Dom Raso. He has a clone of a recon rifle and he has mentioned to me that it is a clone of his rifle he had in the service. I think a lot of signs point to him as being in some sort of designated marksman or potentially a sniper but I can not confirm. His photos in the service always shows him with a magnified optic on his rifle and is something that stands out to me, especially when all the photos of his unit have Eotech sights on their rifles. http://i.imgur.com/rV6JA3R.png http://i.imgur.com/H55qwPN.png http://i.imgur.com/WYfqeXE.png http://i.imgur.com/jJA8DcB.png http://i.imgur.com/ggxDzO8.png http://i.imgur.com/JgYNUBX.png http://i.imgur.com/Heplwtj.png http://i.imgur.com/C1FRQ9q.png View Quote Here's my little 15/22 SEAL recce knockoff. It's CRAZY quiet with subs, as you can imagine. I'm also selling the Bushnell AR223 for another Hi-Lux CMR. |
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Originally Posted By patriot_man:
SNIPPED View Quote Great info. I've always enjoyed the setup in the pictures you've shared there. Thinking about the RDS at 12 for rapid target acquisition and then transitioning to the scope makes sense. Even at lower magnification speed can be lost due to "hunting" for the target. I don't know if you guys say Leupold at SHOT but they have a new optic out that follows this concept, the DEVO. It allows you to keep the RDS at a normal height and then the 6x scope "bends" around the RDS. You can transition easily from 1 to 6 based on cheekweld. It ain't pretty but interesting concept that fits the recce role. From SoldierSystems |
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While it is cool and really innovative, for $1800 I could get a NF and T1 in the EE and still probably spend less. That being said I would like to use a DEVO and see just how well it works.
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Originally Posted By Munzy:
While it is cool and really innovative, for $1800 I could get a NF and T1 in the EE and still probably spend less. That being said I would like to use a DEVO and see just how well it works. View Quote Agreed on that notion. It is however always exciting to see optics be pushed in new directions. I wrapped up my latest recce configuration the other day so I'll try to get some decent iPotato pics up today. |
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Originally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Changed out my quad rail for a ALG EMR. <a href="http://s619.photobucket.com/user/RussellAthletic/media/recce1_zpsa7785d70.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt275/RussellAthletic/recce1_zpsa7785d70.jpg</a> <a href="http://s619.photobucket.com/user/RussellAthletic/media/recce2_zps6d6acb90.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt275/RussellAthletic/recce2_zps6d6acb90.jpg</a> View Quote I'm all of a sudden craving a second NF 2.5-10x32. I love the one on my LMT 308, but now think I need one on a 5.56 as well. |
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I'm all of a sudden craving a second NF 2.5-10x32. I love the one on my LMT 308, but now think I need one on a 5.56 as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Changed out my quad rail for a ALG EMR. <a href="http://s619.photobucket.com/user/RussellAthletic/media/recce1_zpsa7785d70.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt275/RussellAthletic/recce1_zpsa7785d70.jpg</a> <a href="http://s619.photobucket.com/user/RussellAthletic/media/recce2_zps6d6acb90.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt275/RussellAthletic/recce2_zps6d6acb90.jpg</a> I'm all of a sudden craving a second NF 2.5-10x32. I love the one on my LMT 308, but now think I need one on a 5.56 as well. I'm a big fan and know you are too. |
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Originally Posted By patriot_man:
It's my opinion that the true SEAL recon rifles were used for more of a precision role while possessing the capability to be used in CQB if needed. I believe that these rifles may be used for over watch by SEAL snipers as well as the name implies, for recce's. I've normally accepted that the recon rifle was used soley by the SEAL snipers within the unit. However there was information that did not mesh well so I've thought about this for a while. This is just my analysis and the only way to be sure is to get the info first hand but this is my take. I've read Mark Owen (an assaulter) mention that he had a 14.5" HK416 upper with a NF scope for longer engagements if needed. As many of you know we've been told that the HK416 with a 14.5" barrel and NF 2.5-10 is now the new recce rifle so that brings up a lot of questions as to who has a recce rifle or even if the HK416 with a 14.5" barrel is considered a the true successor to the recce rifle. So this info I've formed that the following two things are going on here: 1) SEAL snipers within DEVGRU are utilizing 14.5" HK416 uppers which are readily available to all of its members, not just snipers, and using it in the same role as the recon rifle. 2) Recon rifles in the "original" configuration are still in use. These sets of photos are actually pretty recent dating around 2011 or 2012. Using some logic I've narrowed down the time frame to between the Bin Laden raid and October 2012. In conclusion I think that the original recce rifle is still in use but may be only used by SEAL snipers while the 14.5" HK416 uppers are readily accessible to everyone including assaulters but are also used by a number of SEAL snipers as their choice to fill the same role as the recon rifle. As for CQB use. If any of you guys watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPFUWOYkrDE you see that Dom Raso uses the red dot to line up his sight picture with the target and then drops his head to use the scope. Using my clone for a while I found that I was using the red dot in a similar way. I believe this is why we see so many red dots in 12 o clock mounts instead of the usual 45 degrees we see with "gamer guns". While it indeed does provide a red dot for back up use and CQB one of it's other main purpose is to be used as a target acquisition aid i.e. a more precision rifle orientated use. If they were trying to find a gun that would be a well rounded performer they would have most likely gone with an offset red dot or a lower power variable scope. Secondly I have not seen a single white light on a recon rifle. If you guys have seen photos of assaulter's short HK416 rifles in the same unit you notice that all of them have a SF scout in a S&S precision mount. I think the lack of white light also points to a precision based rig. Third, once again connecting back to Dom Raso. He has a clone of a recon rifle and he has mentioned to me that it is a clone of his rifle he had in the service. I think a lot of signs point to him as being in some sort of designated marksman or potentially a sniper but I can not confirm. His photos in the service always shows him with a magnified optic on his rifle and is something that stands out to me, especially when all the photos of his unit have Eotech sights on their rifles. http://i.imgur.com/rV6JA3R.png http://i.imgur.com/H55qwPN.png http://i.imgur.com/WYfqeXE.png http://i.imgur.com/jJA8DcB.png http://i.imgur.com/ggxDzO8.png http://i.imgur.com/JgYNUBX.png http://i.imgur.com/Heplwtj.png http://i.imgur.com/C1FRQ9q.png View Quote Very informative post, Patriot. Thanks a lot. Where did those pics come from? They look like screen grabs and I feel like I've seen them before. I like the concept of Raso's rifle with the 2.5x10 under the micro red dot. Just not sure how well that would work for someone like me without his training. Do you have any specs on the rifle he's using in that video? |
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Originally Posted By minion42:
Very informative post, Patriot. Thanks a lot. Where did those pics come from? They look like screen grabs and I feel like I've seen them before. I like the concept of Raso's rifle with the 2.5x10 under the micro red dot. Just not sure how well that would work for someone like me without his training. Do you have any specs on the rifle he's using in that video? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By minion42:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Very informative post, Patriot. Thanks a lot. Where did those pics come from? They look like screen grabs and I feel like I've seen them before. I like the concept of Raso's rifle with the 2.5x10 under the micro red dot. Just not sure how well that would work for someone like me without his training. Do you have any specs on the rifle he's using in that video? It's from a MoH WF promo video I believe. |
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Originally Posted By RussellAthletic:
It's from a MoH WF promo video I believe. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Originally Posted By minion42:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Very informative post, Patriot. Thanks a lot. Where did those pics come from? They look like screen grabs and I feel like I've seen them before. I like the concept of Raso's rifle with the 2.5x10 under the micro red dot. Just not sure how well that would work for someone like me without his training. Do you have any specs on the rifle he's using in that video? It's from a MoH WF promo video I believe. Ding! That's where I saw it, now that you mention it. |
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Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Yup Russell is correct and thanks Ruseell. I think the SEAL recon rifle is definitely one of the most interesting things I've researched that is gun related, probably due to the rarity or little known info about it. It came from the promo for a video game called Medal of Honor Warfighter. They actually used members of DEVGRU for the promo along with their equipment and this was confirmed when those involved were punished. If I recall all of them were sent back to normal SEAL teams with pay cuts or no pay for a number of months. The rifle that Dom is using is actually a Daniel Defense MK12 and not his recce clone but all the stuff he has on it, optics and grip pod are from either his recce clone or the HK416 he used while in service. Note the grip pod is the same one on this rifle here http://i.imgur.com/3qsAmy6.jpg His clone build http://i.imgur.com/COOAbdD.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Originally Posted By minion42:
Originally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Originally Posted By minion42:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Very informative post, Patriot. Thanks a lot. Where did those pics come from? They look like screen grabs and I feel like I've seen them before. I like the concept of Raso's rifle with the 2.5x10 under the micro red dot. Just not sure how well that would work for someone like me without his training. Do you have any specs on the rifle he's using in that video? It's from a MoH WF promo video I believe. Ding! That's where I saw it, now that you mention it. Yup Russell is correct and thanks Ruseell. I think the SEAL recon rifle is definitely one of the most interesting things I've researched that is gun related, probably due to the rarity or little known info about it. It came from the promo for a video game called Medal of Honor Warfighter. They actually used members of DEVGRU for the promo along with their equipment and this was confirmed when those involved were punished. If I recall all of them were sent back to normal SEAL teams with pay cuts or no pay for a number of months. The rifle that Dom is using is actually a Daniel Defense MK12 and not his recce clone but all the stuff he has on it, optics and grip pod are from either his recce clone or the HK416 he used while in service. Note the grip pod is the same one on this rifle here http://i.imgur.com/3qsAmy6.jpg His clone build http://i.imgur.com/COOAbdD.jpg Wow...love that recce! There are so many questions I'd ask him if I could, but do you know how long that barrel and rail is? The rail looks shorter than 12" to me. I'm starting to wonder what the difference is between a DMR rifle and a recce. Is the DMR just the official Army manifestation of the recce concept? |
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I'm seeing a lot of SFP scopes on these rifles. Can anyone explain to my why SFP seems to be the norm for Recee style rifles or mid range engagement rifles?
Are turrets not normally being touched at all during 0-500 engagement? Working at 2.5 power and then up at 10 has to produce some different effects on POI at the same range on a SFP scope. How big of a shift in POI is there between the two? Is it so minimal that a mid-range precision shot shouldn't be effected? |
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Originally Posted By minion42:
Wow...love that recce! There are so many questions I'd ask him if I could, but do you know how long that barrel and rail is? The rail looks shorter than 12" to me. I'm starting to wonder what the difference is between a DMR rifle and a recce. Is the DMR just the official Army manifestation of the recce concept? View Quote The top one is a 14.5" HK416 and the bottom recce he has should be a 16" Lilja barrel and the rail is the KAC free float RAS which is the same length as the one used on the Mk12 which is 12 inches overall but with 11 inches of rail space. You can tell from the 7 holes in the rail. I'm not too sure about what the differences are between the two but I would say the the DMR in an infantry squad is to directly support the squad with well-aimed shots at ranges that are beyond the range of a rifleman while the recce is used for recon and as an overwatch for the assaulters hitting the target. |
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Originally Posted By JimboJones1: I'm seeing a lot of SFP scopes on these rifles. Can anyone explain to my why SFP seems to be the norm for Recee style rifles or mid range engagement rifles? Are turrets not normally being touched at all during 0-500 engagement? Working at 2.5 power and then up at 10 has to produce some different effects on POI at the same range on a SFP scope. How big of a shift in POI is there between the two? Is it so minimal that a mid-range precision shot shouldn't be effected? View Quote The way I look at it, with a scope that does 1-4x or even 1-6x, 99% of the time I'll use it at either 1x as a close combat optic similar to a red dot (illuminated helps here), or at full 4x or 6x magnification for longer engagements. Since the reticle is usually calibrated for correct ranging and drops at max magnification, that's where I'll be when I'm doing holds or trying to calculate range to target. At 1x It'll just be used as a quick, center on target and fire for close range.
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Originally Posted By patriot_man:
The top one is a 14.5" HK416 and the bottom recce he has should be a 16" Lilja barrel and the rail is the KAC free float RAS which is the same length as the one used on the Mk12 which is 12 inches overall but with 11 inches of rail space. You can tell from the 7 holes in the rail. I'm not too sure about what the differences are between the two but I would say the the DMR in an infantry squad is to directly support the squad with well-aimed shots at ranges that are beyond the range of a rifleman while the recce is used for recon and as an overwatch for the assaulters hitting the target. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Originally Posted By minion42:
Wow...love that recce! There are so many questions I'd ask him if I could, but do you know how long that barrel and rail is? The rail looks shorter than 12" to me. I'm starting to wonder what the difference is between a DMR rifle and a recce. Is the DMR just the official Army manifestation of the recce concept? The top one is a 14.5" HK416 and the bottom recce he has should be a 16" Lilja barrel and the rail is the KAC free float RAS which is the same length as the one used on the Mk12 which is 12 inches overall but with 11 inches of rail space. You can tell from the 7 holes in the rail. I'm not too sure about what the differences are between the two but I would say the the DMR in an infantry squad is to directly support the squad with well-aimed shots at ranges that are beyond the range of a rifleman while the recce is used for recon and as an overwatch for the assaulters hitting the target. Thanks for the rail ID. I need to get a book or something on the roles of "designated marksmen" and snipers. When I think of snipers I think of bolt guns and 1000yd+ shots in a Ghillie suit from a 2-day stakeout. I take it that's not what the DMR, recce or even Mk12 is for. Are there any good videos showing the roles of assaulters vs marksmen etc in an operation? Just curious...doesn't even have to be SOF. |
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Originally Posted By minion42: Thanks for the rail ID. I need to get a book or something on the roles of "designated marksmen" and snipers. When I think of snipers I think of bolt guns and 1000yd+ shots in a Ghillie suit from a 2-day stakeout. I take it that's not what the DMR, recce or even Mk12 is for. Are there any good videos showing the roles of assaulters vs marksmen etc in an operation? Just curious...doesn't even have to be SOF. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By outlaw7:
Although everything about this rifle was my take on a blend of mk12 variant parts, it's been brought to my attention it belongs in here.She's getting makeup as soon as the weather allows.<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mrwhite182/media/2015-02-02%2006.25.37_zpspc9liqah.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/mrwhite182/2015-02-02%2006.25.37_zpspc9liqah.jpg</a> View Quote Clone threads can be brutal but I understand their agenda. I'm like you where I opt for the "inspired" builds too. I must say that is one slick rig and some paint will set it off. |
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Originally Posted By JimboJones1:
I'm seeing a lot of SFP scopes on these rifles. Can anyone explain to my why SFP seems to be the norm for Recee style rifles or mid range engagement rifles? Are turrets not normally being touched at all during 0-500 engagement? Working at 2.5 power and then up at 10 has to produce some different effects on POI at the same range on a SFP scope. How big of a shift in POI is there between the two? Is it so minimal that a mid-range precision shot shouldn't be effected? View Quote A good SFP scope has minimal POI shift but you can't range with the reticle anymore. |
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Originally Posted By outlaw7:
Although everything about this rifle was my take on a blend of mk12 variant parts, it's been brought to my attention it belongs in here.She's getting makeup as soon as the weather allows.<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mrwhite182/media/2015-02-02%2006.25.37_zpspc9liqah.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/mrwhite182/2015-02-02%2006.25.37_zpspc9liqah.jpg</a> View Quote Awesome rilfe, my current build is a Mk12 inspired that will also end up here. Looks great! |
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Originally Posted By outlaw7:
Thanks fellas, I've got 2 that can play in there, but this one's an outcast.<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mrwhite182/media/20150123_163245_zpsqvl5rzxs.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/mrwhite182/20150123_163245_zpsqvl5rzxs.jpg</a> View Quote Wooooow. |
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Originally Posted By outlaw7:
Thanks fellas, I've got 2 that can play in there, but this one's an outcast.<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mrwhite182/media/20150123_163245_zpsqvl5rzxs.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/mrwhite182/20150123_163245_zpsqvl5rzxs.jpg</a> View Quote Now you need an early Mod 0. |
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Originally Posted By outlaw7:
Thanks fellas, I've got 2 that can play in there, but this one's an outcast.<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mrwhite182/media/20150123_163245_zpsqvl5rzxs.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/mrwhite182/20150123_163245_zpsqvl5rzxs.jpg</a> View Quote Your Mod H URX is sick. It's all spec parts just not in a configuration they approve of. |
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Originally Posted By outlaw7: Thanks fellas, I've got 2 that can play in there, but this one's an outcast.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/mrwhite182/20150123_163245_zpsqvl5rzxs.jpg View Quote What makes that rig an outcast? Looks to me like it's setup similarly to how mine was setup, minus the birdcage mount. I just sold off the S-EX and #22s for an LT-104.
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
What makes that rig an outcast? Looks to me like it's setup similarly to how mine was setup, minus the birdcage mount. I just sold off the S-EX and #22s for an LT-104. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By outlaw7:
Thanks fellas, I've got 2 that can play in there, but this one's an outcast.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/mrwhite182/20150123_163245_zpsqvl5rzxs.jpg What makes that rig an outcast? Looks to me like it's setup similarly to how mine was setup, minus the birdcage mount. I just sold off the S-EX and #22s for an LT-104. I think he was referring to the 16" w/ KAC FF RAS not belonging in the Mk 12 thread. |
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049: I think he was referring to the 16" w/ KAC FF RAS not belonging in the Mk 12 thread. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049: Originally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By outlaw7: Thanks fellas, I've got 2 that can play in there, but this one's an outcast.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/mrwhite182/20150123_163245_zpsqvl5rzxs.jpg What makes that rig an outcast? Looks to me like it's setup similarly to how mine was setup, minus the birdcage mount. I just sold off the S-EX and #22s for an LT-104. I think he was referring to the 16" w/ KAC FF RAS not belonging in the Mk 12 thread. Hell I didn't even notice that; still got sleepers in my eyes. But shit, I'm more onboard with that rig in the thread than I am with one outfitted with the wrong can, billet receivers, etc. Awesome collection. And Burt, that rig above looks awesome.
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
I think he was referring to the 16" w/ KAC FF RAS not belonging in the Mk 12 thread. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By outlaw7:
Thanks fellas, I've got 2 that can play in there, but this one's an outcast.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/mrwhite182/20150123_163245_zpsqvl5rzxs.jpg What makes that rig an outcast? Looks to me like it's setup similarly to how mine was setup, minus the birdcage mount. I just sold off the S-EX and #22s for an LT-104. I think he was referring to the 16" w/ KAC FF RAS not belonging in the Mk 12 thread. ^ this, on was on the fence to build a mod 0. But after feeling how nice the mod h felt, I wanted another with the ff ras on it. |
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Originally Posted By SaltySourdough:
I parted mine out to go back to a Mk12 Mod 1, kind of regret it but I'll build another once the next batch of FF RAS's show up. http://<a href=http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/midwestmarksman/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-10/50B0F5B5-906A-425D-AFFD-528FCA4504DB_zps7ixgsqw4.jpg</a>" /> Looks best with a sopmod but it felt right with an A1 <a href="http://s1050.photobucket.com/user/midwestmarksman/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/D41F81AD-545F-4F39-A89C-A8FB04653298_zps60g6djdl.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/midwestmarksman/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/D41F81AD-545F-4F39-A89C-A8FB04653298_zps60g6djdl.jpg</a> http://<a href=http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/midwestmarksman/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/2E09C1E8-9FF3-40A4-BAF8-992B3BAF3199_zpstwzcms7x.jpg</a>" /> View Quote Meh...the MK12 is over rated The 16" barreled SPR's like the MOD H that the MK12 have progressed into are superior- especially with lighter weight barrel profiles such as the BA 16" tactical gov. |
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Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Meh...the MK12 is over rated The 16" barreled SPR's like the MOD H that the MK12 have progressed into are superior- especially with lighter weight barrel profiles such as the BA 16" tactical gov. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By SaltySourdough:
I parted mine out to go back to a Mk12 Mod 1, kind of regret it but I'll build another once the next batch of FF RAS's show up. http://<a href=http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/midwestmarksman/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-10/50B0F5B5-906A-425D-AFFD-528FCA4504DB_zps7ixgsqw4.jpg</a>" /> Looks best with a sopmod but it felt right with an A1 <a href="http://s1050.photobucket.com/user/midwestmarksman/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/D41F81AD-545F-4F39-A89C-A8FB04653298_zps60g6djdl.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/midwestmarksman/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/D41F81AD-545F-4F39-A89C-A8FB04653298_zps60g6djdl.jpg</a> http://<a href=http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/midwestmarksman/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/2E09C1E8-9FF3-40A4-BAF8-992B3BAF3199_zpstwzcms7x.jpg</a>" /> Meh...the MK12 is over rated The 16" barreled SPR's like the MOD H that the MK12 have progressed into are superior- especially with lighter weight barrel profiles such as the BA 16" tactical gov. You shut that whorish mouth Matty! Just gonna leave this here. Eventually we'll take over every thread Ignore the little one on the right. |
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Originally Posted By Zakk101abn:
You shut that whorish mouth Matty! Just gonna leave this here. Eventually we'll take over every thread <a href="http://s36.photobucket.com/user/zakk101abn/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsmjtiutad.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsmjtiutad.jpg</a> Ignore the little one on the right. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Zakk101abn:
Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By SaltySourdough:
I parted mine out to go back to a Mk12 Mod 1, kind of regret it but I'll build another once the next batch of FF RAS's show up. http://<a href=http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/midwestmarksman/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-10/50B0F5B5-906A-425D-AFFD-528FCA4504DB_zps7ixgsqw4.jpg</a>" /> Looks best with a sopmod but it felt right with an A1 <a href="http://s1050.photobucket.com/user/midwestmarksman/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/D41F81AD-545F-4F39-A89C-A8FB04653298_zps60g6djdl.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/midwestmarksman/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/D41F81AD-545F-4F39-A89C-A8FB04653298_zps60g6djdl.jpg</a> http://<a href=http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/midwestmarksman/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/2E09C1E8-9FF3-40A4-BAF8-992B3BAF3199_zpstwzcms7x.jpg</a>" /> Meh...the MK12 is over rated The 16" barreled SPR's like the MOD H that the MK12 have progressed into are superior- especially with lighter weight barrel profiles such as the BA 16" tactical gov. You shut that whorish mouth Matty! Just gonna leave this here. Eventually we'll take over every thread <a href="http://s36.photobucket.com/user/zakk101abn/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsmjtiutad.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsmjtiutad.jpg</a> Ignore the little one on the right. Pure sex. |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Hell I didn't even notice that; still got sleepers in my eyes. But shit, I'm more onboard with that rig in the thread than I am with one outfitted with the wrong can, billet receivers, etc. Awesome collection. And Burt, that rig above looks awesome. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By outlaw7:
Thanks fellas, I've got 2 that can play in there, but this one's an outcast.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/mrwhite182/20150123_163245_zpsqvl5rzxs.jpg What makes that rig an outcast? Looks to me like it's setup similarly to how mine was setup, minus the birdcage mount. I just sold off the S-EX and #22s for an LT-104. I think he was referring to the 16" w/ KAC FF RAS not belonging in the Mk 12 thread. Hell I didn't even notice that; still got sleepers in my eyes. But shit, I'm more onboard with that rig in the thread than I am with one outfitted with the wrong can, billet receivers, etc. Awesome collection. And Burt, that rig above looks awesome. I totally agree with you and thanks for the kind words. You pushed me over the edge to finally paint, and now the wife and dog run when they see me break out the rattle can. I wonder how many on this forum you've gotten to paint stuff!? |
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049: I totally agree with you and thanks for the kind words. You pushed me over the edge to finally paint, and now the wife and dog run when they see me break out the rattle can. I wonder how many on this forum you've gotten to paint stuff!? View Quote lol, no idea. Might make a thread in GD and see how many people post up.
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
lol, no idea. Might make a thread in GD and see how many people post up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
I totally agree with you and thanks for the kind words. You pushed me over the edge to finally paint, and now the wife and dog run when they see me break out the rattle can. I wonder how many on this forum you've gotten to paint stuff!? lol, no idea. Might make a thread in GD and see how many people post up. Haha send me a PM if you do. |
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049: I totally agree with you and thanks for the kind words. You pushed me over the edge to finally paint, and now the wife and dog run when they see me break out the rattle can. I wonder how many on this forum you've gotten to paint stuff!? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049: Originally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049: Originally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By outlaw7: Thanks fellas, I've got 2 that can play in there, but this one's an outcast.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/mrwhite182/20150123_163245_zpsqvl5rzxs.jpg What makes that rig an outcast? Looks to me like it's setup similarly to how mine was setup, minus the birdcage mount. I just sold off the S-EX and #22s for an LT-104. I think he was referring to the 16" w/ KAC FF RAS not belonging in the Mk 12 thread. Hell I didn't even notice that; still got sleepers in my eyes. But shit, I'm more onboard with that rig in the thread than I am with one outfitted with the wrong can, billet receivers, etc. Awesome collection. And Burt, that rig above looks awesome. I totally agree with you and thanks for the kind words. You pushed me over the edge to finally paint, and now the wife and dog run when they see me break out the rattle can. I wonder how many on this forum you've gotten to paint stuff!? Utah strongarm'd me into doing mine! MEANIE! I'd do the MK18 but i might do a retro sbr again.....so its on the fence for paint. I love apraying rifles tho :)
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Just finished it a while back, only just got a picture of it.
Untitled by Crazy people Concepts, on Flickr Rainier Arms Match .223 Wylde Barrel in 16", off the EE Rainier Arms Low Profile Match Grade Gas Block - Nitride Gas Tube- Midlength Rainer arms BCG - Phosphate Aero precision upper Alg m-lok 15" A2 flash hider Primary Arms 1-6 gen2, Primary Arms mount and cat tail. Harris 6-9 bipod, attached via magpul m-lok adapter. San Tan Tatical ambi lower Geissele SSA-E Spikes Tatical T2 buffer Magpul stuff Had a few double feeds and FTE's, mostly with Freedom munitions 55gr psp and 20round curved pmags. But they happen less as they "break in" Kinda want to paint it |
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Originally Posted By Zakk101abn:
You shut that whorish mouth Matty! Just gonna leave this here. Eventually we'll take over every thread <a href="http://s36.photobucket.com/user/zakk101abn/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsmjtiutad.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsmjtiutad.jpg</a> Ignore the little one on the right. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Zakk101abn:
Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By SaltySourdough:
I parted mine out to go back to a Mk12 Mod 1, kind of regret it but I'll build another once the next batch of FF RAS's show up. http://<a href=http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/midwestmarksman/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-10/50B0F5B5-906A-425D-AFFD-528FCA4504DB_zps7ixgsqw4.jpg</a>" /> Looks best with a sopmod but it felt right with an A1 <a href="http://s1050.photobucket.com/user/midwestmarksman/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/D41F81AD-545F-4F39-A89C-A8FB04653298_zps60g6djdl.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/midwestmarksman/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/D41F81AD-545F-4F39-A89C-A8FB04653298_zps60g6djdl.jpg</a> http://<a href=http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/midwestmarksman/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/2E09C1E8-9FF3-40A4-BAF8-992B3BAF3199_zpstwzcms7x.jpg</a>" /> Meh...the MK12 is over rated The 16" barreled SPR's like the MOD H that the MK12 have progressed into are superior- especially with lighter weight barrel profiles such as the BA 16" tactical gov. You shut that whorish mouth Matty! Just gonna leave this here. Eventually we'll take over every thread <a href="http://s36.photobucket.com/user/zakk101abn/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsmjtiutad.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsmjtiutad.jpg</a> Ignore the little one on the right. oh that one on the left!!! |
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The ALG EMR is becoming THE recce rail huh?
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