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Also, that Huey rotor blade is bass ackwards. Leading edge should be flip flopped (counter clockwise rotation, not clockwise).
Unless it's a Chinook or Sea Knight then my theory is shot to heck. |
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You've never lived until you have almost died.
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Also, the name tape on the helo crewman's uniform.
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Interesting to see those makeshift VFGs. Did your source mention the date on those pics? Looks like '70-'72ish to me.
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Some looked like the dates were off but that is the time period for some.
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"Let's go."
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Must have encoded wrong .
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Is that a C-Mag in that last photo?
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Yep I have seen the color one also /
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Originally Posted By PirateEC:
Early 90's Navy Seals http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/678/seal1ag5.jpg This is interesting to me - he's wearing a patch from a famous Canadian skateboard company based out of Vancouver, old school . SKULL SKATES |
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Originally Posted By CDNinUSA:
Originally Posted By PirateEC:
Early 90's Navy Seals http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/678/seal1ag5.jpg This is interesting to me - he's wearing a patch from a famous Canadian skateboard company based out of Vancouver, old school . SKULL SKATES Probably not a patch, that's probably where he got the fanny pack. |
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Originally Posted By osprey21:
It was flipped - that rotor he blade is what caught my eye. http://i50.tinypic.com/hsrygj.jpg I think the fact that Life is in the corner is spelled backwards helps. |
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You're ghostin' us, motherfucker. I don't care who you are back in the world, you give away our position one more time, I'll bleed ya, real quiet. Leave ya here. Got that?
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Sarcasm earns you no points sir. Go back anothe page and see the original Life printed was a negitive.
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This pic is of a CCN SOG recon team but I'm not sure which one. The CCN compound in Da Nang bordered the South China Sea. Canteen covers stuffed with mags and NVA shirts are a dead giveaway, plus all the little people are rolling with CAR-15s, and nobody is wearing tiger-stripes. This photo was taken sometime between 1968-1970; I'm guessing '69 because they've all got CAR-15s but no 30-round mags nor do they have STABO extraction rigs. That's a beautiful photo; where'd you come by it? |
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Self-proclaimed MACV-SOG historian.
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I will get you the link Its really nice I will post it in the main forum some 70 pages.
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Originally Posted By FITTER:
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d162/Pat_Sajac/RVN%20images/rangertm.jpg Does that mag look abnormally large to you? Maybe an early 45 rounder? |
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I came across this picture in some old pictures that my grandmother had. Most of them were family pictures, but this guy isn't related to me. My aunt was sorting through the pictures with me and she knew who he was, but I've never seen him before. I thought it was interesting that there are two M16s in the picture (he must have had a friend that got out of view for the picture). Also, what sort of magazine is that? It looks significantly longer than a 20-round magazine, but it is straight. Is that one of the Armalite 25-round magazines?
On the back was hand written: "Me sitting in my new dining room eating breakfast." Link to larger image |
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Originally Posted By MaximRecoil:
I came across this picture in some old pictures that my grandmother had. Most of them were family pictures, but this guy isn't related to me. My aunt was sorting through the pictures with me and she knew who he was, but I've never seen him before. I thought it was interesting that there are two M16s in the picture (he must have had a friend that got out of view for the picture). Also, what sort of magazine is that? It looks significantly longer than a 20-round magazine, but it is straight. Is that one of the Armalite 25-round magazines? On the back was hand written: "Me sitting in my new dining room eating breakfast." http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4101/4804804306_c8852ac5f6_b.jpg Link to larger image I think it is one of the 1st model 30 round magazines that had a continuous curve to it. Modern ones have the two straight sections at the top and bottom, with a sharper curve in the middle. |
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Originally Posted By lafmedic1:
Some more from militaryphotos.net. AF Para Rescue http://i48.tinypic.com/5yt18n.jpg Anyone know the source on this photo? Between the multicam and the 635 type it looks like it might be a posed commercial photo. The lower receiver looks odd to me too, especially the rollmarks (or lack thereof). |
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I'm the only John Wayne left in this town.
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Originally Posted By MaximRecoil:
Originally Posted By gunnut003:
I think it is one of the 1st model 30 round magazines that had a continuous curve to it. There's no curve to it though, continuous or otherwise. The magazine in the picture is perfectly straight. Here's a closer look at it: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4099/4808595836_35e44b772c.jpg Definitely looks like a 25 rounder. |
If an AR-15 doesn't have some form of carry handle, something's not right.
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Originally Posted By plinkr415:
Definitely looks like a 25 rounder. How common were those in Vietnam? |
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Originally Posted By MaximRecoil:
Originally Posted By plinkr415:
Definitely looks like a 25 rounder. How common were those in Vietnam? I think the mag is a standard 20, that simply is not seated all the way. I don't believe the 25 round mags made it beyond the testing and evaluation phase. |
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I agree that the magazine is a 20 round. It looks this way because the magazine hasn't been seated inside the well all the way.
I believe the first people to recieve the 30 round magazine just may have been the guy's in SOG. This came about from all the "1-0's" who pooled their money together to buy the magazines from the old Sherwood Store in the back pages of a mag entitled Popular Mechanics. The above was found by John Plaster who asked anybody who wanted a 30 round magazine to donate the money into a pool especially for the 1-0's and he sent the money to his father so he could send them a check and recieve the magazines himself then they were mailed to John Plaster's to MACVSOG in care of Mr. John Plaster. For them this was Christmas when they recieved their new 30-round magazines Anybody around here still remember the store or their advertisements? RT Utah, I believe we know each other. Send me a private message to me.and we will talk about things from the old days? Just my $.02 worth. |
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Originally Posted By Thatguy96:
Originally Posted By lafmedic1:
Some more from militaryphotos.net. AF Para Rescue http://i48.tinypic.com/5yt18n.jpg Anyone know the source on this photo? Between the multicam and the 635 type it looks like it might be a posed commercial photo. The lower receiver looks odd to me too, especially the rollmarks (or lack thereof). The pararescue guys down here wear multicam. |
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Originally Posted By Thatguy96:
Originally Posted By lafmedic1:
Some more from militaryphotos.net. AF Para Rescue http://i48.tinypic.com/5yt18n.jpg Anyone know the source on this photo? Between the multicam and the 635 type it looks like it might be a posed commercial photo. The lower receiver looks odd to me too, especially the rollmarks (or lack thereof). Its a DOD photo . I found it in the Pararescue title . This may be one of the plastic trainers paintd up so its not blue or Red |
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Originally Posted By lafmedic1:
Originally Posted By Thatguy96:
Originally Posted By lafmedic1:
Some more from militaryphotos.net. AF Para Rescue http://i48.tinypic.com/5yt18n.jpg Anyone know the source on this photo? Between the multicam and the 635 type it looks like it might be a posed commercial photo. The lower receiver looks odd to me too, especially the rollmarks (or lack thereof). Its a DOD photo . I found it in the Pararescue title . This may be one of the plastic trainers paintd up so its not blue or Red I agree. It might just be a black rubber ducky. |
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Check out all these pics but its not about the weapon. Its about the military. Even in the jungle these guys were not slobs.All of their clothing was tailored , not like the baggy ass slobs of present day. And the weapon was upgraded to compencate for idiots. Just like the present day 3 round burst.
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Originally Posted By Mos_590:
Check out all these pics but its not about the weapon. Its about the military. Even in the jungle these guys were not slobs.All of their clothing was tailored , not like the baggy ass slobs of present day. And the weapon was upgraded to compencate for idiots. Just like the present day 3 round burst. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?? |
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The mountains, they do strange things to you.
Originally Posted By 44Echo10:
Originally Posted By Mos_590:
Check out all these pics but its not about the weapon. Its about the military. Even in the jungle these guys were not slobs.All of their clothing was tailored , not like the baggy ass slobs of present day. And the weapon was upgraded to compencate for idiots. Just like the present day 3 round burst. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?? |
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Mos_590,
I am curious to what you are saying. Maybe you can explain it further? |
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I'm the only John Wayne left in this town.
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Originally Posted By HookMech:
Hey, look! an XM16E1 picture. http://www.dcnyhistory.org/Fact_Fancy/images/14.04.jpg And with that, hopefully, we can get back on topic before this gets out of hand. Great picture! It shows really well how the uppers and lowers don't always match. |
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XM148 goodness.
And the ParaRescue rubby ducky is the 9mm variant. I figured everyone else caught that but no one mentioned it. In case there is doubt about it being a rubber duck, look at the trigger molded in the trigger guard. |
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uxb,
I may be stupid, but where is the "Rubber Ducky" suppose to be? mantracker "MACVSOG" Living Historian |
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Originally Posted By Mantracker:
uxb, I may be stupid, but where is the "Rubber Ducky" suppose to be? mantracker "MACVSOG" Living Historian Page 15 AF PJ with 9mm posted by lafmedic1 |
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44Echo10,
Thanks! |
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Originally Posted By flatdarkmars:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8274/rothchandlervd1.jpg I love the tape camo and can on this one. There's a taped up XM177E2 in the background too. |
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I have never seen the three barrel XM148 . Thats a tri grenade launcher. I dont know if its field expedient . Maybe someone can say. Where did you find it.
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flatdarkmars,
The third one picture from the the top is RT Idaho taken in 1971. The Indig is carring a "special muzzel flash suppressor" ( ie., it looks like the sound end of a high school air horn). The three shot 40mm is called a "Name 3-barrel 40mm Grenade launcher". It was used by the SEALS in Vietnam (under trial). Here are more stats on this weapon: style='font-weight: bold;'][/span] 1) 3) Type of fire: Single shot, repeater style='font-weight: bold;']Shoots the exact same cartridge as did the the M-79 (40x46mmSR)2) Operation: Manual, double action[/span] 3) [span style='font-weight: bold;'] style='font-weight: bold[/span];']Muzzel Velocity is[/span]: 215 fps and the 203 puts out a grenade at 235 fps. 4) [span style='font-weight: bold;'] Rate of fire: [/span] 9 rpm 5) [span style='font-weight: bold;']Feed[/span]: One round at a time per barrel. 6) [span style='font-weight: bold;']Weights[/span]: (including the weight of the M16A1. weapon (empty) 4.5 lbs. Weapon and its M16A1 mount and including a magazine w/20roundsl in the magazine is 13.73 lbs. Weight of the of the weapon itself is 4.5 lbs. 7) [span style='font-weight: bold;']Magazine, 3 rounds, full without mounted is only 1.5 lbs.[/span]8) Service cartridge is the M406 HE weighs .38 lbs. 9) [span style='font-weight: bold;']Barrel on the weapon is only 6 inches long[/span]10) Minimum arming distance is 45-90 ft. Maximum range is 372 yds. 11) [span style='font-weight: bold;'] style='font-weight:[/span] bold;']Effective range: [/span] 328 yds. I hope this what it is that your looking at? also, please fogive me on these BOLD errors I've been a member since 2000 and I am not good at this. |
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Malaysians.
I'm not sure what I think of this guy's single point sling attachment point. The long lost end user of the 651 carbine? While you were posing with your 653, a cartoon terrorist abducted your cartoon girlfriend. |
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