AR Sponsor
ULTRA light weight picture thread....the under 6 crowd. (Page 4 of 39)
|
Originally Posted By Russ4777: Pretty lofty goal unless its a pistol. You are going to need a pistol length barrel to get that light. Originally Posted By Russ4777: Originally Posted By wesmerc: I am setting a goal of 4.5 lbs for my build Pretty lofty goal unless its a pistol. You are going to need a pistol length barrel to get that light. Seems doable to me - something like carbon upper, polymer lower, pistol barrel (maybe) ... if you switch calibers you can eliminate the gas block and tube and maybe even buffer weight.
|
...believe in me, I'm with the High Command.
Joined:
May 2006
Posts:
5386
EE: 100% (35)
MO, USA
|
Originally Posted By Russ4777:
Pretty lofty goal unless its a pistol. You are going to need a pistol length barrel to get that light. Originally Posted By Russ4777:
Originally Posted By wesmerc:
I am setting a goal of 4.5 lbs for my build Pretty lofty goal unless its a pistol. You are going to need a pistol length barrel to get that light. Not necessarily, here is a 4.5 lb build using a 16" .625 barrel standard front sight base and standard handguards. 
If he goes 14.5" with a permanently attached muzzle device to bring it to 16", goes with a lightweight handguard. And a few other mods it's easily do able. |
"When trading bullets it is better to give than to receive"
"Take your money and a traveler's bag. And if you don't have a sword, sell your clothes and buy one!" Jesus Christ - Luke 22.36
NRA Endowment Member
"Take your money and a traveler's bag. And if you don't have a sword, sell your clothes and buy one!" Jesus Christ - Luke 22.36
NRA Endowment Member
|
Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
Not necessarily, here is a 4.5 lb build using a 16" .625 barrel standard front sight base and standard handguards. http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Picture006.jpg If he goes 14.5" with a permanently attached muzzle device to bring it to 16", goes with a lightweight handguard. And a few other mods it's easily do able. Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
Originally Posted By Russ4777:
Originally Posted By wesmerc:
I am setting a goal of 4.5 lbs for my build Pretty lofty goal unless its a pistol. You are going to need a pistol length barrel to get that light. Not necessarily, here is a 4.5 lb build using a 16" .625 barrel standard front sight base and standard handguards. http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Picture006.jpg If he goes 14.5" with a permanently attached muzzle device to bring it to 16", goes with a lightweight handguard. And a few other mods it's easily do able. Is that an M&P Sport upper? |
...believe in me, I'm with the High Command.
Joined:
May 2006
Posts:
5387
EE: 100% (35)
MO, USA
|
Originally Posted By hummeriah:
Is that an M&P Sport upper? Originally Posted By hummeriah:
Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
Originally Posted By Russ4777:
Originally Posted By wesmerc:
I am setting a goal of 4.5 lbs for my build Pretty lofty goal unless its a pistol. You are going to need a pistol length barrel to get that light. Not necessarily, here is a 4.5 lb build using a 16" .625 barrel standard front sight base and standard handguards. http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Picture006.jpg If he goes 14.5" with a permanently attached muzzle device to bring it to 16", goes with a lightweight handguard. And a few other mods it's easily do able. Is that an M&P Sport upper? Ahhh, no. I "cheated", it's a plastic upper receiver. And yes, the receiver is a POS. |
"When trading bullets it is better to give than to receive"
"Take your money and a traveler's bag. And if you don't have a sword, sell your clothes and buy one!" Jesus Christ - Luke 22.36
NRA Endowment Member
"Take your money and a traveler's bag. And if you don't have a sword, sell your clothes and buy one!" Jesus Christ - Luke 22.36
NRA Endowment Member
Rainier upper, youngs lightweight bcg, cav arms lower, geissele 3g trigger, barrel was a cmmg 1 in 7 nitrided govt profile barrel that was reprofiled by adco to lightweight. Rainier mini comp. 5 pounds and some change. |
"Es mejor morir de pie que vivir arrodillado" José Martí
Award: 24/365's Most Fabulous Suspect.
Award: 24/365's Most Likely To Come From Behind
Award: 24/365 Official Shot Calla.
Award: 24/365's Most Fabulous Suspect.
Award: 24/365's Most Likely To Come From Behind
Award: 24/365 Official Shot Calla.
|
Originally Posted By GoldenStatePrepz:
So.. I don't plan to hike 50 miles with my rifle. Am I a bad person for preferring my rifle to weigh more than 6lbs? No... but I wouldn't post it in this thread. There are plenty of other places to discuss rifles over six pounds, and even a "heavyweights" picture and discussion thread. This thread is for discussing ultra-lights. I'd venture to guess that almost every poster in this thread has at least one other rifle which weighs over six pounds as well. ~Augee |
|
Originally Posted By GoldenStatePrepz:
So.. I don't plan to hike 50 miles with my rifle. Am I a bad person for preferring my rifle to weigh more than 6lbs? Then stay home and out of this thread, it's not for you. My contribution: 
5 lbs 15.6 oz Nodak A1 Upper Green Mountain 16" fluted M4 barrel Midwest Industries SS Carbine Handguard Core15 NiB BCG Brownells Para CH Magpul MOE Stock and MOE K Grip This is an old picture, so I have to admit that she's a little heavier now with a CTR stock, sling, and grip panels. Have a new lightweight build I'm working on now, but this time in 300blk. On a related note, anyone know how much the Troy CQB pistol grip weighs? |
I was kind of disappointed when I weighed her today . . .
5lbs 5oz Some freebie beat up DPMS parts gave its life for this project 
I don't have the money to throw at all the lightweight parts but I do have an air compressor/die grinder and end mill so I got busy with those. Standard m4 upper, full auto regular BCG  , self-windowed lower, turned 14.5 barrel, freebie aac flash hider, commercial craptastic stock (even this "lightened version is 1 oz heavier than an untouched milspec ).
I could easily turn off another 2oz of material without spending anything . . . mill off the unused picatinny rail, turn the flash hider. Hacked up milspec stock kit + semi BCG should drop another 2oz. Was really hoping to be in the 4s with a total of $200 invested (again, bunch of JUNK I had laying around) besides what I already had |
5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light.
DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit. I'm happy with how it turned out! |
|
Originally Posted By JCatt:
5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light. http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p25/CattJ/Family%20stuff/lightweight.jpg DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit. I'm happy with how it turned out! Your sight is on backwards...... 
|
|
Any idea how much my new build will weigh...approx?
Noveske factory Gen 1 upper 14.5" skinny bbl perm attached AAC NM Magpul mid length hand guards Magpul MBUS gen 2 rear sight Noveske gen 1 lower Magpul MOE grip Magpul CTR Would this be considered "light"? It will be the lightest rifle I have by far. |
|
Originally Posted By DirtDivision:
Your sight is on backwards...... Originally Posted By DirtDivision:
Originally Posted By JCatt:
5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light. http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p25/CattJ/Family%20stuff/lightweight.jpg DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit. I'm happy with how it turned out! Your sight is on backwards...... Pro tip of the day. I feel like and idiot  but its fixed now, thanks!
|
|
Originally Posted By JCatt:
Pro tip of the day. I feel like and idiot but its fixed now, thanks!Originally Posted By JCatt:
Originally Posted By DirtDivision:
Originally Posted By JCatt:
5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light. http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p25/CattJ/Family%20stuff/lightweight.jpg DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit. I'm happy with how it turned out! Your sight is on backwards...... Pro tip of the day. I feel like and idiot but its fixed now, thanks!No problem man. looks really good regardless. |
|
I already wanted to do a lightweight build for my rifle. I have the mag tactical lower in FDE and an Upper on order also FDE. already put in a Daniel Defense LPK. and I believe Ill be going with the Battle link Minimalist stock. Havent decided on a hand guard but really want a 13-15" with top rail. I know that will add to my weight but I like the site longer radius. will be going with a 16" barrel because I want to keep the ability to change flash suppressors easily and will be adding a silencer if Ohios Silencer Hunting laws go through.
Back to the point this thread and the FDE thread will make me put this rifle together faster than Ill want to. Thanks guys. |
|
Originally Posted By ajclune:
I already wanted to do a lightweight build for my rifle. I have the mag tactical lower in FDE and an Upper on order also FDE. already put in a Daniel Defense LPK. and I believe Ill be going with the Battle link Minimalist stock. Havent decided on a hand guard but really want a 13-15" with top rail. I know that will add to my weight but I like the site longer radius. will be going with a 16" barrel because I want to keep the ability to change flash suppressors easily and will be adding a silencer if Ohios Silencer Hunting laws go through. Back to the point this thread and the FDE thread will make me put this rifle together faster than Ill want to. Thanks guys. Isn't a milspec stock lighter than the Battle Link stock? What is the lightest stock available? |
|
Originally Posted By Dan_GSR:
MFT minimalist Originally Posted By Dan_GSR:
What is the lightest stock available? MFT minimalist I know that's what the manufacturer claims on the product page, but it says under 6 ounces. There are numerous stocks for the AR that are under 6 ounces. So, if it is the lightest, what does it weigh? CAR Fiberlite stock body = 4.6 oz Colt 6920 M4 (gen 4) stock body = 5.7 oz (w/o metal sling mount) |
|
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
Titanium BCG, chopped Cav lower, Leupold DeltaPoint, 9mm upper, carbon fiber hand guard, adjustable gas tube, etc. I've got an aluminum carrier and poly fire control group I could throw in there, but I'm saving them for a Mag Tactical build. Originally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By L119188:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww337/joshua_aston/null_zps9993d66b.jpg Damn! How'd you do that? Titanium BCG, chopped Cav lower, Leupold DeltaPoint, 9mm upper, carbon fiber hand guard, adjustable gas tube, etc. I've got an aluminum carrier and poly fire control group I could throw in there, but I'm saving them for a Mag Tactical build. Old post, but what does this mean? Shortened stock section? |
Originally Posted By KingRat:
Huff some gasoline, then do an interpretive finger painting of the Spanish Civil War on your living room walls.
Huff some gasoline, then do an interpretive finger painting of the Spanish Civil War on your living room walls.
...believe in me, I'm with the High Command.
Joined:
May 2006
Posts:
5499
EE: 100% (35)
MO, USA
|
Originally Posted By noob5000000:
Old post, but what does this mean? Shortened stock section? Originally Posted By noob5000000:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By L119188:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww337/joshua_aston/null_zps9993d66b.jpg Damn! How'd you do that? Titanium BCG, chopped Cav lower, Leupold DeltaPoint, 9mm upper, carbon fiber hand guard, adjustable gas tube, etc. I've got an aluminum carrier and poly fire control group I could throw in there, but I'm saving them for a Mag Tactical build. Old post, but what does this mean? Shortened stock section? Chopping a Cav Arms lower tutorial |
"When trading bullets it is better to give than to receive"
"Take your money and a traveler's bag. And if you don't have a sword, sell your clothes and buy one!" Jesus Christ - Luke 22.36
NRA Endowment Member
"Take your money and a traveler's bag. And if you don't have a sword, sell your clothes and buy one!" Jesus Christ - Luke 22.36
NRA Endowment Member
|
Originally Posted By JCatt: 5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light. http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p25/CattJ/unfail.jpg DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit. I'm happy with how it turned out! Nice, on my Geissele I am changing out my 13MK4 with a 9.5MK4 and adding the Ultra compact kit instead of LWRC compact to save even more weight on my lightweight. Love the compacts/ ultra compacts.
|
Would you the conex go? Oh would you let the conex go? Oh would you let the conex go? You cannot penalize this moment, in my life. Show me how the peeps kill.
|
Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Nice, on my Geissele I am changing out my 13MK4 with a 9.5MK4 and adding the Ultra compact kit instead of LWRC compact to save even more weight on my lightweight. Love the compacts/ ultra compacts. Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Originally Posted By JCatt:
5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light. http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p25/CattJ/unfail.jpg DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit. I'm happy with how it turned out! Nice, on my Geissele I am changing out my 13MK4 with a 9.5MK4 and adding the Ultra compact kit instead of LWRC compact to save even more weight on my lightweight. Love the compacts/ ultra compacts. Do you know what the weight of these those LWRC stocks are? |
|
Originally Posted By Nada-Nada:
Do you know what the weight of these those LWRC stocks are? Originally Posted By Nada-Nada:
Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Originally Posted By JCatt:
5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light. http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p25/CattJ/unfail.jpg DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit. I'm happy with how it turned out! Nice, on my Geissele I am changing out my 13MK4 with a 9.5MK4 and adding the Ultra compact kit instead of LWRC compact to save even more weight on my lightweight. Love the compacts/ ultra compacts. Do you know what the weight of these those LWRC stocks are? I didn't weigh the stock itself but can if you want. I swapped a Vltor tube, H buffer, spring, and M4 stock it weighed 17.4oz total and the LWRC ultra compact kit was 16.4. If you compared a standard carbine buffer it would be closer to 2 oz of savings, plus a compact package. |
|
Working on a lightweight build right now. Going to be really close to 6 lbs. I am still debating if I want to lose the FA or not...
Daniel Defense 14.5" barrel BCM low profile gas block MI SSK 12" handguard So far pretty light... |
The zombies are coming...
|
Originally Posted By djkest: Working on a lightweight build right now. Going to be really close to 6 lbs. I am still debating if I want to lose the FA or not... You do. No FA and JP LMOS is a sweet combo.
|
Would you the conex go? Oh would you let the conex go? Oh would you let the conex go? You cannot penalize this moment, in my life. Show me how the peeps kill.
|
Originally Posted By RustedAce:
You do. No FA and JP LMOS is a sweet combo. Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Originally Posted By djkest:
Working on a lightweight build right now. Going to be really close to 6 lbs. I am still debating if I want to lose the FA or not... You do. No FA and JP LMOS is a sweet combo. +1. The JP is a work of art, and the FA is worthless with the lightweight BCGs. |
You keep comparing yourself to someone that people actually liked, and I think that's where you first stepped off. -TREETOP
|
Check this out:
http://aeroprecisionusa.com/combo-sets/ar15-matched-stripped-receiver-set-no-forward-assist.html It's even a really good deal, and in stock as well. My only concern is that I want the AR to be 100% reliable. Okay, 99.5% reliable. But I can't remember the last time I used a forward assist. Granted, I don't shoot as much as I'd like. And the JP is out of the question for me. But 6 lbs is achievable without it. |
The zombies are coming...
|
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww337/joshua_aston/null_zps9993d66b.jpg Yeah that's going to be hard to beat. |
You'll be shitting bald eagles and pissing red white and blue. --Subnet
|
Originally Posted By gotuonpaper:
Yeah that's going to be hard to beat. Originally Posted By gotuonpaper:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww337/joshua_aston/null_zps9993d66b.jpg Yeah that's going to be hard to beat. I don't think it really qualifies for the record until we see the whole thing. |
The zombies are coming...
|
Originally Posted By djkest:
I don't think it really qualifies for the record until we see the whole thing. Originally Posted By djkest:
Originally Posted By gotuonpaper:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww337/joshua_aston/null_zps9993d66b.jpg Yeah that's going to be hard to beat. I don't think it really qualifies for the record until we see the whole thing. Yes more pics |
|
I think there are really 3 main areas where you can "blow it" as far as weight is concerned if you goal is a 6 lb rifle.
1) Barrel 2) Handguard 3) Buttstock I see a lot of billet uppers/lowers but I think all of those (with the exception of mag tac) are going to add some weight. |
The zombies are coming...
| Yeah, I think that I'm blowing it with my Wilson 13.8" hand guard. I have a MAG Tactical lower & 14.5" lightweight Voodoo barrel and I'm at 6.5 pounds. I'm sure the LAR side charging upper isn't helping. I'm still waiting on my Mission First Minimalist stock though. I'm trying to be right at 6# but it won't break my heart if I end up heavier. I'll post a pic if I actually make 6.000# or below! |
|
Originally Posted By ThomasChagrin:
Yeah, I think that I'm blowing it with my Wilson 13.8" hand guard. I have a MAG Tactical lower & 14.5" lightweight Voodoo barrel and I'm at 6.5 pounds. I'm sure the LAR side charging upper isn't helping. I'm still waiting on my Mission First Minimalist stock though. I'm trying to be right at 6# but it won't break my heart if I end up heavier. I'll post a pic if I actually make 6.000# or below! If Bravo Company is not BSing people on the weight of their new Keymod rail it will be under 8 ounces which would save you nearly a half a pound. Which is a shame because you like the Wilson Combat so much. |
The zombies are coming...
|
Originally Posted By djkest:
If Bravo Company is not BSing people on the weight of their new Keymod rail it will be under 8 ounces which would save you nearly a half a pound. Which is a shame because you like the Wilson Combat so much. Originally Posted By djkest:
Originally Posted By ThomasChagrin:
Yeah, I think that I'm blowing it with my Wilson 13.8" hand guard. I have a MAG Tactical lower & 14.5" lightweight Voodoo barrel and I'm at 6.5 pounds. I'm sure the LAR side charging upper isn't helping. I'm still waiting on my Mission First Minimalist stock though. I'm trying to be right at 6# but it won't break my heart if I end up heavier. I'll post a pic if I actually make 6.000# or below! If Bravo Company is not BSing people on the weight of their new Keymod rail it will be under 8 ounces which would save you nearly a half a pound. Which is a shame because you like the Wilson Combat so much. He will need something to use in the meantime... |
|
Originally Posted By djkest:
I don't think it really qualifies for the record until we see the whole thing. Originally Posted By djkest:
Originally Posted By gotuonpaper:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww337/joshua_aston/null_zps9993d66b.jpg Yeah that's going to be hard to beat. I don't think it really qualifies for the record until we see the whole thing. 
|
You keep comparing yourself to someone that people actually liked, and I think that's where you first stepped off. -TREETOP
|
Originally Posted By djkest:
If Bravo Company is not BSing people on the weight of their new Keymod rail it will be under 8 ounces which would save you nearly a half a pound. Which is a shame because you like the Wilson Combat so much. Originally Posted By djkest:
Originally Posted By ThomasChagrin:
Yeah, I think that I'm blowing it with my Wilson 13.8" hand guard. I have a MAG Tactical lower & 14.5" lightweight Voodoo barrel and I'm at 6.5 pounds. I'm sure the LAR side charging upper isn't helping. I'm still waiting on my Mission First Minimalist stock though. I'm trying to be right at 6# but it won't break my heart if I end up heavier. I'll post a pic if I actually make 6.000# or below! If Bravo Company is not BSing people on the weight of their new Keymod rail it will be under 8 ounces which would save you nearly a half a pound. Which is a shame because you like the Wilson Combat so much. It looks like there will be a KMR10 as well as the lightweight KMR13, but no info on their site if the 10 will be the same material. |
|
Originally Posted By djkest: I think it would be really awesome if we had some sort of repository for weights for various items. I'm not 100% sure what it would look like or where on ARFCOM it would be posted. They should work weights for every single piece into gunstruction.
|
Would you the conex go? Oh would you let the conex go? Oh would you let the conex go? You cannot penalize this moment, in my life. Show me how the peeps kill.
Colt AR6720 LE. My digital postal scale indicates 5.9 lbs. The rifle carries perfectly balanced in my hands with a full 20 rd magazine. Impressive build quality. Accurate beyond my capabilities at long range with "peep sight" aperture sights. The 4th photo shows a frying pan lid I suspended with string to serve as a homemade redneck silhouette target placed at 300 yards distance. Standing upright with handguard braced against a tree. 20 rounds fired, 9 hits.... NO WAY! I COULD HARDLY SEE THE DAMN THING AGAINST THE FRONT POST AT THAT RANGE! Did I say I like this rifle yet? Wow. Hats off to Colt USA.
Snug15 |
...believe in me, I'm with the High Command.
Joined:
May 2006
Posts:
5508
EE: 100% (35)
MO, USA
|
The BCM KMR is not out yet. They said about 4-6 weeks for the 13" KMR and the 10" to follow. But the KMR will be made from a magnesium alloy, and will be the lightest keymod rail on the market. The KMR13 weighs 7.7 oz with barrel nut, and the KMR10 is 6.5 oz. I can't wait; I signed up for the email reminder so hopefully I can snag one when it becomes available.
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww337/joshua_aston/D7E20B0B-8E4F-449F-A11D-75CF1CE018F4_zpsrhwzwa5s.jpg Nice! Specs on barrel (make/length/profile) please. |
ULTRA light weight picture thread....the under 6 crowd. (Page 4 of 39)
AR Sponsor