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Posted: 1/3/2016 5:27:54 AM EST
http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-805-bren-s1-carbine/
http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-scorpion-evo-3-s1-carbine/  ETA: If these are old news I apologize. It's the first time I've seen them on their website. |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 9:43:52 AM EST
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Nice choices, not too sure about the 805, but I do like the Scorpion Rifle Carbine.
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Posted: 1/3/2016 10:13:07 AM EST
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http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-805-bren-s1-carbine/ http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-scorpion-evo-3-s1-carbine/
ETA: If these are old news I apologize. It's the first time I've seen them on their website. I saw noir do something about the evo carbine but i hadn't seen the 805 rifle! thanks for posting |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 12:01:46 PM EST
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I'd take the bren at $1200, not $2k.
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Posted: 1/3/2016 1:00:28 PM EST
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So want both....
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Posted: 1/3/2016 2:51:59 PM EST
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Posted: 1/3/2016 3:06:53 PM EST
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Will wait patiently for the 806.
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Posted: 1/3/2016 3:20:31 PM EST
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Nice choices, not too sure about the 805, but I do like the Scorpion Rifle Carbine. Max This. I'm considering the rifle or the pistol in the future. |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 5:44:25 PM EST
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Will wait patiently for the 806. Was not aware of the 806, googled. Do want. 
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Posted: 1/3/2016 9:00:16 PM EST
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Was not aware of the 806, googled. Do want. http:// http://www.armadninoviny.cz/domains/0023-armadninoviny_cz/useruploads/images/cz_806_bren.jpg http://www.armadninoviny.cz/domains/0023-armadninoviny_cz/useruploads/images/cz-806_bren_2.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Will wait patiently for the 806. Was not aware of the 806, googled. Do want. http:// http://www.armadninoviny.cz/domains/0023-armadninoviny_cz/useruploads/images/cz_806_bren.jpg http://www.armadninoviny.cz/domains/0023-armadninoviny_cz/useruploads/images/cz-806_bren_2.jpg I hate to go off looks, but it looks like a lovechild of a Scar and a Eggo waffle. |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 9:19:32 PM EST
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Didn't like the 805 bren on semi 2RB or FA
And I never understood why people would want a rifle in 9mm SBR or pistol maybe but rifle in 9mm just doesn't make sense |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 10:14:30 PM EST
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Will wait patiently for the 806. Yea, that is what I would want as well. The 805 is just kinda meh. |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 10:37:14 PM EST
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Bren doesn't look bad but I also don't see the point of a 9mm rifle with 16" barrel.
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Posted: 1/4/2016 12:47:17 AM EST
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I want the bren but not at their price at 1-1.2k I could see it selling well and the scorpion i think is more for people who might SBR but are not sure or people who don't want a pistol till their stamp comes back or just for plinking not every gun needs a serious purpose.
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Posted: 1/4/2016 10:10:39 AM EST
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Will wait patiently for the 806. Might be a while. It's nice, though. I really wish CZ had improved on the SCAR-esque 6-captured-torx-screws-for-bbl-retention method, esp. since Beretta seems to have been able to utilize 1 to handle the same function on the ARX-200. |
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Posted: 1/4/2016 12:13:11 PM EST
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Yea, that is what I would want as well. The 805 is just kinda meh. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Will wait patiently for the 806. Yea, that is what I would want as well. The 805 is just kinda meh. Seems rather pointless for them to be selling the 805 now. At its price point, it isn't an impulse buy so a potential owner is going to have done some research on it. They will have seen the improved 806 design and it really makes the 805 less appealing, given the flaws it corrects. I was never really interested in the 805 for its price and the fact it was a pistol. Had no desire to do a SBR conversion on one. The 805 rifle is definitely better, but the price is still too high to see much adoption. When you're at $1800, it isn't that much of a stretch to get to $2200 for the SCAR, a proven rifle with a decent aftermarket. I'd rather have the 806 but if they did fire-sale pricing of the 805 rifle for $1200 I might get interested. Make it an 806 and I might go to $1400. That's the limit of my "what's it worth to you" scale these days. Funny thing, I already have a SBR'ed Scorpion, but the 16" carbine Scorpion is on my want-list for 2016.  I think it manages to satisfy the 16" barrel requirement while looking good, possible the best looking PCC I've seen. I already have a stash of Scorpion stuff, and it'd be a great option for shooting at non-NFA friendly places.
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Posted: 1/4/2016 1:21:53 PM EST
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Seems rather pointless for them to be selling the 805 now. At its price point, it isn't an impulse buy so a potential owner is going to have done some research on it. They will have seen the improved 806 design and it really makes the 805 less appealing, given the flaws it corrects. The 806 is a prototype, at best. It hasn't entered manufacturing or been accepted by the Czech military. It's not going to come out any time soon, if at all. |
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Posted: 1/4/2016 4:10:56 PM EST
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So the 806 is a SBR, and a little different than the 805? Is it possible that you can buy the short barrel off the 805 pistol.....and swap that to the 805 carbine.......like a SCAR?
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Posted: 1/4/2016 4:41:54 PM EST
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If you want an 805 sbr just buy the pistol and add the stock after your stamp comes back.
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Posted: 1/4/2016 5:03:28 PM EST
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If you want an 805 sbr just buy the pistol and add the stock after your stamp comes back. Correct.....but the question was if the barrels are swapable? ie a SCAR or ACR. If not, than SBRing the pistol is the way to go. Are there stocks available? |
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Posted: 1/4/2016 5:11:27 PM EST
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CZ USA has or has had or supposed to have soon the stocks and 922r kits, haven't checked but they said they will be offering them. Not sure on your barrel question. Would be nice if it were easy to swap I agree.
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Posted: 1/4/2016 11:20:58 PM EST
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I think it uses a barrel system somewhat similar to the SCAR. Not QD but not AR-barrel-nut either. Doesn't really matter though, as I don't see CZ ever offering the barrels separately. More likely to see Bushmaster start offering ACR barrels.
If you want the SBR, I agree, get the pistol and wait (and wait...) for CZ USA to get the 922r kits out. Their first priority was the Scorpion kit, so they'll get to the 805 next. I think the carbines are a direct result of their 922r research with the SBR issue, and the potential for non-NFA sales. The 922r kits will probably get scarce as the carbines start being built. |
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Posted: 1/4/2016 11:47:39 PM EST
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CZ has a Mil/LE pricing program for the Bren as well. It's not $1200, but takes a good chunk off the MSRP.
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Posted: 1/5/2016 9:34:02 AM EST
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CZ USA has or has had or supposed to have soon the stocks and 922r kits, haven't checked but they said they will be offering them. Not sure on your barrel question. Would be nice if it were easy to swap I agree. CZ has posted both on Facebook and Instagram to state that Scorpion kits are their main focus right now; Bren kits are coming in a few months but they aren't making them a priority. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 2:59:18 PM EST
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After firing the bren 805 in Afghanistan on SA 2RB and FA I would rather have an AR or SCAR or Robinson Arms
This will be another hype gun that wont last long But don't take my word for it. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 4:59:06 PM EST
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After firing the bren 805 in Afghanistan on SA 2RB and FA I would rather have an AR or SCAR or Robinson Arms This will be another hype gun that wont last long But don't take my word for it. I have a Scar and AR's and I like my 805 Bren better! Much better actually. So yeah I won't take your word for it. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 8:16:36 PM EST
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I have a Scar and AR's and I like my 805 Bren better! Much better actually. So yeah I won't take your word for it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After firing the bren 805 in Afghanistan on SA 2RB and FA I would rather have an AR or SCAR or Robinson Arms This will be another hype gun that wont last long But don't take my word for it. I have a Scar and AR's and I like my 805 Bren better! Much better actually. So yeah I won't take your word for it. What do you like better the cheap stock or more recoil of the bren. Because ARs or M4s and SCARs are better in construction and performance. The bren is another hype gun and wont be nearly as popular as the AR or scar now or in the future. Both AR and scar will be around for a much longer time Even the Czech soldiers liked the M4 better. And thats from those with real world experience in the field and in combat 
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Posted: 1/5/2016 9:04:01 PM EST
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The scorpion carbine sorta looks familiar....
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Posted: 1/6/2016 1:14:34 PM EST
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I am definitely interested in the evo carbine, with an MSRP if $1049 you are talking about a $900 street price. It also says that the muzzle is threaded 1/2x28
No desire for the Bren. So far no 5.56 rifle has been awesome enough to warrant switching from an AR15. |
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Posted: 1/6/2016 2:33:47 PM EST
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The 806 is a prototype, at best. It hasn't entered manufacturing or been accepted by the Czech military. It's not going to come out any time soon, if at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seems rather pointless for them to be selling the 805 now. At its price point, it isn't an impulse buy so a potential owner is going to have done some research on it. They will have seen the improved 806 design and it really makes the 805 less appealing, given the flaws it corrects. The 806 is a prototype, at best. It hasn't entered manufacturing or been accepted by the Czech military. It's not going to come out any time soon, if at all. No problem, CZ won't get my money for their Bren 805. Maybe one day they'll have my money from an 806. |
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Posted: 1/6/2016 4:19:17 PM EST
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Getting both, step aside IWI this is CZ's year.......
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Posted: 1/6/2016 7:43:53 PM EST
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What do you like better the cheap stock or more recoil of the bren. Because ARs or M4s and SCARs are better in construction and performance. The bren is another hype gun and wont be nearly as popular as the AR or scar now or in the future. Both AR and scar will be around for a much longer time Even the Czech soldiers liked the M4 better. And thats from those with real world experience in the field and in combat
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After firing the bren 805 in Afghanistan on SA 2RB and FA I would rather have an AR or SCAR or Robinson Arms This will be another hype gun that wont last long But don't take my word for it. I have a Scar and AR's and I like my 805 Bren better! Much better actually. So yeah I won't take your word for it. What do you like better the cheap stock or more recoil of the bren. Because ARs or M4s and SCARs are better in construction and performance. The bren is another hype gun and wont be nearly as popular as the AR or scar now or in the future. Both AR and scar will be around for a much longer time Even the Czech soldiers liked the M4 better. And thats from those with real world experience in the field and in combat
lol right, Bren is much better rife in about all respects. Super well made built like an HK gun, smooth as butter! very accurate! what recoil... should I keep going? But don't take my word for it...lol |
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Posted: 1/6/2016 8:37:50 PM EST
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What do you like better the cheap stock or more recoil of the bren. Because ARs or M4s and SCARs are better in construction and performance. The bren is another hype gun and wont be nearly as popular as the AR or scar now or in the future. Both AR and scar will be around for a much longer time Even the Czech soldiers liked the M4 better. And thats from those with real world experience in the field and in combat
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After firing the bren 805 in Afghanistan on SA 2RB and FA I would rather have an AR or SCAR or Robinson Arms This will be another hype gun that wont last long But don't take my word for it. I have a Scar and AR's and I like my 805 Bren better! Much better actually. So yeah I won't take your word for it. What do you like better the cheap stock or more recoil of the bren. Because ARs or M4s and SCARs are better in construction and performance. The bren is another hype gun and wont be nearly as popular as the AR or scar now or in the future. Both AR and scar will be around for a much longer time Even the Czech soldiers liked the M4 better. And thats from those with real world experience in the field and in combat
Gee, I imagine some of us want something besides yet another AR. Choices, how do they work.
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Posted: 1/6/2016 8:46:09 PM EST
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Does anyone know for sure how easy or difficult it is to remove the barrel on the EVO? Might be worth picking up the rifle if you plan on suppressing it and then chopping the barrel.
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Posted: 1/7/2016 1:48:13 PM EST
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Does anyone know for sure how easy or difficult it is to remove the barrel on the EVO? Might be worth picking up the rifle if you plan on suppressing it and then chopping the barrel. Very, but it requires detail stripping the gun. |
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Posted: 1/7/2016 9:05:02 PM EST
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Very, but it requires detail stripping the gun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does anyone know for sure how easy or difficult it is to remove the barrel on the EVO? Might be worth picking up the rifle if you plan on suppressing it and then chopping the barrel. Very, but it requires detail stripping the gun. Very easy or very difficult? |
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Posted: 1/8/2016 12:25:09 PM EST
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lol right, Bren is much better rife in about all respects. Super well made built like an HK gun, smooth as butter! very accurate! what recoil... should I keep going? But don't take my word for it...lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After firing the bren 805 in Afghanistan on SA 2RB and FA I would rather have an AR or SCAR or Robinson Arms This will be another hype gun that wont last long But don't take my word for it. I have a Scar and AR's and I like my 805 Bren better! Much better actually. So yeah I won't take your word for it. What do you like better the cheap stock or more recoil of the bren. Because ARs or M4s and SCARs are better in construction and performance. The bren is another hype gun and wont be nearly as popular as the AR or scar now or in the future. Both AR and scar will be around for a much longer time Even the Czech soldiers liked the M4 better. And thats from those with real world experience in the field and in combat
lol right, Bren is much better rife in about all respects. Super well made built like an HK gun, smooth as butter! very accurate! what recoil... should I keep going? But don't take my word for it...lol That's what they said about all the other hype guns. That thing on FA was not as controllable as M4. Enjoy your hype gun. I'm sure prices will drop and in time fade away as the AR will still be around I'll take my word and the Czech soldiers word that have real world experience not just someone that shoots off the bench at 100 yards max. duhh duh "LOL" |
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Posted: 1/8/2016 3:20:03 PM EST
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That's what they said about all the other hype guns. That thing on FA was not as controllable as M4. Enjoy your hype gun. I'm sure prices will drop and in time fade away as the AR will still be around I'll take my word and the Czech soldiers word that have real world experience not just someone that shoots off the bench at 100 yards max. duhh duh "LOL" No one cares. Get out of this thread. |
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Posted: 1/8/2016 4:01:52 PM EST
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Gee, I imagine some of us want something besides yet another AR. Choices, how do they work. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After firing the bren 805 in Afghanistan on SA 2RB and FA I would rather have an AR or SCAR or Robinson Arms This will be another hype gun that wont last long But don't take my word for it. I have a Scar and AR's and I like my 805 Bren better! Much better actually. So yeah I won't take your word for it. What do you like better the cheap stock or more recoil of the bren. Because ARs or M4s and SCARs are better in construction and performance. The bren is another hype gun and wont be nearly as popular as the AR or scar now or in the future. Both AR and scar will be around for a much longer time Even the Czech soldiers liked the M4 better. And thats from those with real world experience in the field and in combat
Gee, I imagine some of us want something besides yet another AR. Choices, how do they work. And that's fine....just trying to warn you about the hype. And there are better weapons as well as choices. |
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Posted: 1/8/2016 4:06:05 PM EST
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That's what they said about all the other hype guns. That thing on FA was not as controllable as M4. Enjoy your hype gun. I'm sure prices will drop and in time fade away as the AR will still be around I'll take my word and the Czech soldiers word that have real world experience not just someone that shoots off the bench at 100 yards max. duhh duh "LOL" No one cares. Get out of this thread. Then why post on a public forum? I'm giving you input from real world Czech soldiers and what they think about it. But, if you think that's not worthy then I guess you can keep buying into the hype. Good luck shooting off the bench a 100 yards or less. You should have better understanding than those that actually used it in real world combat. |
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Posted: 1/8/2016 6:23:48 PM EST
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Does anyone know for sure how easy or difficult it is to remove the barrel on the EVO? Might be worth picking up the rifle if you plan on suppressing it and then chopping the barrel. Very, but it requires detail stripping the gun. Very easy or very difficult? Sorry: easy. This guide shows it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AIMO9onCXs Note: the barrel is headspaced to the trunnion. When you buy an aftermarket barrel from CZ Custom, you only get the barrel. They offer a service for headspacing and mating the barrel to the trunnion, but it costs extra. |
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Posted: 1/8/2016 6:25:46 PM EST
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Then why post on a public forum? I'm giving you input from real world Czech soldiers and what they think about it. But, if you think that's not worthy then I guess you can keep buying into the hype. Good luck shooting off the bench a 100 yards or less. You should have better understanding than those that actually used it in real world combat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's what they said about all the other hype guns. That thing on FA was not as controllable as M4. Enjoy your hype gun. I'm sure prices will drop and in time fade away as the AR will still be around I'll take my word and the Czech soldiers word that have real world experience not just someone that shoots off the bench at 100 yards max. duhh duh "LOL" No one cares. Get out of this thread. Then why post on a public forum? I'm giving you input from real world Czech soldiers and what they think about it. But, if you think that's not worthy then I guess you can keep buying into the hype. Good luck shooting off the bench a 100 yards or less. You should have better understanding than those that actually used it in real world combat. You know nothing about me, what I do, or how I will use it. I am not a soldier. I do not care about its full auto performance. I have an AR and an AK and a SCAR and many other rifles. I want the 805 Bren because it is an 805 Bren, not because I think it's something else. You are the only person who wants to have a dick waving contest about this rifle, we just want to enjoy it for what it is. |
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Posted: 1/8/2016 7:14:49 PM EST
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Sorry: easy. This guide shows it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AIMO9onCXs Note: the barrel is headspaced to the trunnion. When you buy an aftermarket barrel from CZ Custom, you only get the barrel. They offer a service for headspacing and mating the barrel to the trunnion, but it costs extra. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does anyone know for sure how easy or difficult it is to remove the barrel on the EVO? Might be worth picking up the rifle if you plan on suppressing it and then chopping the barrel. Very, but it requires detail stripping the gun. Very easy or very difficult? Sorry: easy. This guide shows it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AIMO9onCXs Note: the barrel is headspaced to the trunnion. When you buy an aftermarket barrel from CZ Custom, you only get the barrel. They offer a service for headspacing and mating the barrel to the trunnion, but it costs extra. I would probably just send It to Adco and let them chop it. Won't do anything until I had the suppressor in hand though. |
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Posted: 1/9/2016 10:26:47 PM EST
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You know nothing about me, what I do, or how I will use it. I am not a soldier. I do not care about its full auto performance. I have an AR and an AK and a SCAR and many other rifles. I want the 805 Bren because it is an 805 Bren, not because I think it's something else. You are the only person who wants to have a dick waving contest about this rifle, we just want to enjoy it for what it is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's what they said about all the other hype guns. That thing on FA was not as controllable as M4. Enjoy your hype gun. I'm sure prices will drop and in time fade away as the AR will still be around I'll take my word and the Czech soldiers word that have real world experience not just someone that shoots off the bench at 100 yards max. duhh duh "LOL" No one cares. Get out of this thread. Then why post on a public forum? I'm giving you input from real world Czech soldiers and what they think about it. But, if you think that's not worthy then I guess you can keep buying into the hype. Good luck shooting off the bench a 100 yards or less. You should have better understanding than those that actually used it in real world combat. You know nothing about me, what I do, or how I will use it. I am not a soldier. I do not care about its full auto performance. I have an AR and an AK and a SCAR and many other rifles. I want the 805 Bren because it is an 805 Bren, not because I think it's something else. You are the only person who wants to have a dick waving contest about this rifle, we just want to enjoy it for what it is. LOL |
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Posted: 1/10/2016 9:51:39 AM EST
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Posted: 1/10/2016 9:21:51 PM EST
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I want the 805 Bren because it is an 805 Bren, not because I think it's something else. You are the only person who wants to have a dick waving contest about this rifle, we just want to enjoy it for what it is. Agreed on this point |
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Posted: 1/10/2016 10:47:52 PM EST
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The CZ EVO is very expensive for what it is. I wouldn't buy at that price.
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Posted: 1/11/2016 1:09:22 PM EST
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The CZ EVO is very expensive for what it is. I wouldn't buy at that price. Price an original HK94 (& throw in the cost of converting it to a SBR) & get back to us. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 3:00:43 PM EST
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That's what they said about all the other hype guns. That thing on FA was not as controllable as M4. Enjoy your hype gun. I'm sure prices will drop and in time fade away as the AR will still be around I'll take my word and the Czech soldiers word that have real world experience not just someone that shoots off the bench at 100 yards max. duhh duh "LOL" No one cares. Get out of this thread. Then why post on a public forum? I'm giving you input from real world Czech soldiers and what they think about it. But, if you think that's not worthy then I guess you can keep buying into the hype. Good luck shooting off the bench a 100 yards or less. You should have better understanding than those that actually used it in real world combat. You know nothing about me, what I do, or how I will use it. I am not a soldier. I do not care about its full auto performance. I have an AR and an AK and a SCAR and many other rifles. I want the 805 Bren because it is an 805 Bren, not because I think it's something else. You are the only person who wants to have a dick waving contest about this rifle, we just want to enjoy it for what it is. LOL what's really funny is your 72hr timeout for trolling a tech forum. |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 1:39:29 PM EST
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I think it uses a barrel system somewhat similar to the SCAR. Not QD but not AR-barrel-nut either. Doesn't really matter though, as I don't see CZ ever offering the barrels separately. More likely to see Bushmaster start offering ACR barrels.
All the posts from babies and children aside... I can't believe no one calls out this comment, which really, is the most baseless of any in this entire thread. CZ has done an AMAZING JOB of providing parts and support for their guns. You can buy barrels for every thing CZ makes. If there is one company who says they will offer a barrel kit, or parts kit, or factory replacement parts at a decent price, it's CZ. |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 3:45:08 PM EST
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All the posts from babies and children aside... I can't believe no one calls out this comment, which really, is the most baseless of any in this entire thread. CZ has done an AMAZING JOB of providing parts and support for their guns. You can buy barrels for every thing CZ makes. If there is one company who says they will offer a barrel kit, or parts kit, or factory replacement parts at a decent price, it's CZ. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think it uses a barrel system somewhat similar to the SCAR. Not QD but not AR-barrel-nut either. Doesn't really matter though, as I don't see CZ ever offering the barrels separately. More likely to see Bushmaster start offering ACR barrels.
All the posts from babies and children aside... I can't believe no one calls out this comment, which really, is the most baseless of any in this entire thread. CZ has done an AMAZING JOB of providing parts and support for their guns. You can buy barrels for every thing CZ makes. If there is one company who says they will offer a barrel kit, or parts kit, or factory replacement parts at a decent price, it's CZ. Sure, for their pistols, and it has only been in recent years. I remember playing the "let's try to suppress the CZ 75" game and it was pretty much having an extension threaded onto your barrel because CZ didn't offer much of anything. Don't be so harsh until you can refute it. Scorpion has been out for a while and a crazy success and you can't buy the barrel from CZ. CZ Custom has some, but I think they make those themselves and they don't require gas system parts. The market saturation of the 805 is so low that in my opinion it isn't profitable for them to offer them. There's a longer barrel off the A1 but it's still less than 16" so still NFA territory. I'm curious if the 805 rifle is going to be wearing a domestic or Czech barrel. Maybe after they start shipping the 805 rifles we'll see the 16" barrel for sale, but that's a maybe. |
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