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thanks for doing this....
good luck with it and looking forward for when it comes out. |
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That is awesome. Are you guys making it in rifle calibers too?
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We think it can be done in larger calibers, possibly anything that can feed from an AR mag. Cant scale up to 308.
These first ones are using the AR15 9mm magazines and standard mag catch. |
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What do you mean by 9mm ar15 mags? Like colt smg mags?
Any idea what the msrp will be? |
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Quoted: What do you mean by 9mm ar15 mags? Like colt smg mags? Any idea what the msrp will be? View Quote They are the SMG types. We have all the popular ones on hand too and they all seem pretty good. Most appear to be made by a company called ASC and are rebranded. The tan ones are my favorite, but the paint scratches off pretty easily, thats what it in the pics above. |
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Very nice!
Will make a good companion for this one and the forthcoming Type 1. I like the FG42 Attached File |
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Waiting list? Or can I just send you an envelope full of cash. If we can’t trust you guys, then there is nobody left.
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We are making a list only, still months out but we do expect around late FEB to start shipping. Thats how long we have to wait for barrels these days.
Someday I will get one of those Repro FG42s..... I may have to splurge regardless if they come out with the Type 1 and probably easier than trying to get one of those Airsoft ones. The short barrel version should be ready for pics later today or tomorrow. |
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Quoted: We are making a list only, still months out but we do expect around late FEB to start shipping. Thats how long we have to wait for barrels these days. Someday I will get one of those Repro FG42s..... I may have to splurge regardless if they come out with the Type 1 and probably easier than trying to get one of those Airsoft ones. The short barrel version should be ready for pics later today or tomorrow. View Quote The 7.92x57 Type 1s are already in production; I'm just waiting for the .308 Type 1, to go with my .308 Type 2. M-14 mags are a whole lot more readily available and cheaper than ZB-30 mags. But I'm definitely in for your version. I assume the the magazine choice is firm, so I'm off to start finding Colt 9mm mags. |
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We are locked in for production with the ar15 9mm mags for now.
However the entire mag well can be removed and other mags be used. If we adapt to a pistol mag, we can swap feed ramps too, as those require a different profile. The feed ramp is attached to the receiver, not the adapter. Initially we had HK Mp5 mags and Sterling mags but like the look and availability of the AR15s. |
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pretty cool. How much of this is steel vs plastic. Kinda hard to tell by the photo.
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Quoted: pretty cool. How much of this is steel vs plastic. Kinda hard to tell by the photo. View Quote Every black part you see in the photo is 3d printed plastic.... just for the NASGW show(except the pistol grip and rear stock). However there is no plastic on the real deal, its old school wood and metal. The receiver and bottom rail are already in production, but I think we are going to revise some of the tooling for the Gen 2s( no real cosmetic change, just a bit more rigid receiver) |
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Quoted: Every black part you see in the photo is 3d printed plastic.... just for the NASGW show(except the pistol grip and rear stock). However there is no plastic on the real deal, its old school wood and metal. The receiver and bottom rail are already in production, but I think we are going to revise some of the tooling for the Gen 2s( no real cosmetic change, just a bit more rigid receiver) View Quote Cool. So will the possible caliber / mag conversions be user swappable or will this have to go back to yall? |
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The mag well can be swapped in the field.
Barrels are threaded in with a 3/4-17 standard thread but barrels are usually in tight and need a barrel/receiver vise. I wish we could use a Savage lock nut system but there is no room. |
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Quoted: The mag well can be swapped in the field. Barrels are threaded in with a 3/4-17 standard thread but barrels are usually in tight and need a barrel/receiver vise. I wish we could use a Savage lock nut system but there is no room. View Quote 10-4 I find what y’all are doing very interesting. For some reason think I’d want a 556 version that takes nato mags |
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I find the idea of an FG in 5.56 very neat and its not a problem putting a mag well for an AR15 mag on this. Its going to take a good bit more design work, but I already know how to make it work. Will play with it after we get settled in with the FG and something else we are working on.
If your a fan of classic military style firearms, we do have something in 5.56(multi caliber) coming out very soon too. Sorry no pics on that one for awhile. |
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Quoted: I find the idea of an FG in 5.56 very neat and its not a problem putting a mag well for an AR15 mag on this. Its going to take a good bit more design work, but I already know how to make it work. Will play with it after we get settled in with the FG and something else we are working on. If your a fan of classic military style firearms, we do have something in 5.56(multi caliber) coming out very soon too. Sorry no pics on that one for awhile. View Quote Sounds fantastic! |
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Quoted: I find the idea of an FG in 5.56 very neat and its not a problem putting a mag well for an AR15 mag on this. Its going to take a good bit more design work, but I already know how to make it work. Will play with it after we get settled in with the FG and something else we are working on. If your a fan of classic military style firearms, we do have something in 5.56(multi caliber) coming out very soon too. Sorry no pics on that one for awhile. View Quote Cool will be glad to see it. Keep up the great work. |
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This looks awesome! I'm set on AR 9mm mags and have plenty of UZI mags I could convert as well...but Sterling or Suomi mags would be great because of their ease of loading. Although the curved Sterling would look a little more out of place and not as "correct" in shape.
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That is absolutely badass.
Didn’t you guys have a 5.56 bullpup you were working on years ago? |
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Quoted: That is absolutely badass. Didn’t you guys have a 5.56 bullpup you were working on years ago? View Quote Its funny you bring that up, I cant say more for about a month or two. We had a rather good showing at NASGW and it looks like different distributors will get different mag platforms. Were not sure on all the different types yet. Were also getting much better support in place for the new rifles, so things happen smoother and faster. We also met the folks who run UTG and they have some new fantastic bipods that for whatever reason seem to have been designed for this rifle. Those will be a direct option with the carbines. |
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Quoted: Here is the new shorty version. The bottom rail does get shortened on it, overall its shorter than an AR15 shorty with the stock extended. The handguards are not the true color-problem with the camera. https://www.troupsystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/IMG_E4253-768x355.jpg View Quote That's cool. |
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What is this, why haven't I seen anything about this before, and when and where can I get one? I didn't even know I wanted something like this.
Also, can it be made to accept other types of 9mm magazines, like CZ scorpion mags? |
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CZ mags should not be a problem, I think we have some and will double check. The mag well and separate feed ramp are removable, to allow just about any mag to be used. HK Ump mags are the exception, they are just too wide.
Were just about ready to move it from R&D to pre-production samples. Running into delays with some items. Pushing for a Feb 2022 release date on the first gen... full tooling will not be ready until March |
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Any chance of you picking the AR57 up again now that they're defunct?
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This is awesome in a completely impractical way which means I need one.
I’ll be watching for updates. I’d love to see a .223 version someday too. |
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Quoted: CZ mags should not be a problem, I think we have some and will double check. The mag well and separate feed ramp are removable, to allow just about any mag to be used. HK Ump mags are the exception, they are just too wide. Were just about ready to move it from R&D to pre-production samples. Running into delays with some items. Pushing for a Feb 2022 release date on the first gen... full tooling will not be ready until March View Quote Do you forsee any difference in the first Gen ones vs the ones made with full tooling? |
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Quoted: Do you forsee any difference in the first Gen ones vs the ones made with full tooling? View Quote The only major difference will be the ones with full tooling will have the scope rail integral to the receiver( non-removable). The pro is it makes for a more rigid receiver and lowers production cost-in theory. The con-you cant put a custom scope mount on it. We do plan on putting the model info on the top of the receiver like they do the old Mausers, so aftermarket rails might not be viable anyways. Sorry on the AR57, we are super swamped with the FG9 and another rifle right behind it. |
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We should have some updated pics later this week or early next.
Of all the darnedest things, it looks like we will switch the wood on the pistol grip and rear stock to Cherry. It takes the best black finish and is not that expensive. This may open the door to some sub variant colors. Working to get the cherry wood sets run this week. |
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Quoted: We should have some updated pics later this week or early next. Of all the darnedest things, it looks like we will switch the wood on the pistol grip and rear stock to Cherry. It takes the best black finish and is not that expensive. This may open the door to some sub variant colors. Working to get the cherry wood sets run this week. View Quote I'll take mine without the black finish, please A Type 1 FG with all-wood furniture is the best of all worlds. |
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Quoted: Its funny you bring that [bullpup in 5.56] up, I cant say more for about a month or two. We had a rather good showing at NASGW and it looks like different distributors will get different mag platforms. Were not sure on all the different types yet. Were also getting much better support in place for the new rifles, so things happen smoother and faster. We also met the folks who run UTG and they have some new fantastic bipods that for whatever reason seem to have been designed for this rifle. Those will be a direct option with the carbines. View Quote It has been a month or two (technically). |
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Quoted: Yep, if you have a list, I still want on it. Cool. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Are we at the "shut up and take my money" stage yet? Please? Attached File |
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Quoted: Here is the latest short version of the Fg9 with all walnut wood, we have made a couple changes and still have a couple more cosmetic changes left but nothing major. Also in the photo is the other rifle we have been working on, its a multi cal for those who like something different. https://www.troupsystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/main-rfg-combo.jpg View Quote Both are cool. Can you give us some more details on the multi cal rifle? |
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