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I haven't laughed this much in a thread in awhile. OP, props for not giving a fuck.
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OP.....all that money for a nice SBR and you couldn't even spend $60 on getting it engraved, or at least $8 for a HF stamp kit? Really? That looks like a 2yr old did it.
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OP.....all that money for a nice SBR and you couldn't even spend $60 on getting it engraved, or at least $8 for a HF stamp kit? Really? That looks like a 2yr old did it. I think that's the point. OP dont cur! ......and what's wrong with a two year old with an SBR? |
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Quoted: Quoted: OP.....all that money for a nice SBR and you couldn't even spend $60 on getting it engraved, or at least $8 for a HF stamp kit? Really? That looks like a 2yr old did it. I think that's the point. OP dont cur! This whole AR with a can and both stamps is coming in around $900. No sense in adding almost 10% to the cost just for some fancy engraving! |
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+1 This whole AR with a can and both stamps is coming in around $900. No since in adding almost 10% to the cost just for some fancy engraving! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OP.....all that money for a nice SBR and you couldn't even spend $60 on getting it engraved, or at least $8 for a HF stamp kit? Really? That looks like a 2yr old did it. I think that's the point. OP dont cur! This whole AR with a can and both stamps is coming in around $900. No since in adding almost 10% to the cost just for some fancy engraving! Damn OP, I like your style. Nicely done. |
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Quoted: Damn OP, I like your style. Nicely done. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: OP.....all that money for a nice SBR and you couldn't even spend $60 on getting it engraved, or at least $8 for a HF stamp kit? Really? That looks like a 2yr old did it. I think that's the point. OP dont cur! This whole AR with a can and both stamps is coming in around $900. No since in adding almost 10% to the cost just for some fancy engraving! Damn OP, I like your style. Nicely done. |
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Why are you even engraving it? Per the NFA handbook definition, you aren't a Manufacturer!
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People often ask where to get engraving done. Many of the tops places are often pricy once you factor in shipping and have long lead times. So why not do it your self? Building a 8" .300 BLK with a can and the whole rig will come in at under $900 <a href="http://s305.photobucket.com/user/gentleman4561/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1026_zpsc904fa27.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/gentleman4561/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1026_zpsc904fa27.jpg</a> <a href="http://s305.photobucket.com/user/gentleman4561/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1641_zps86c0a9dc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/gentleman4561/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1641_zps86c0a9dc.jpg</a> View Quote I think a new career opportunity has opened up for you! |
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Quoted: I think a new career opportunity has opened up for you! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: People often ask where to get engraving done. Many of the tops places are often pricy once you factor in shipping and have long lead times. So why not do it your self? Building a 8" .300 BLK with a can and the whole rig will come in at under $900 <a href="http://s305.photobucket.com/user/gentleman4561/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1026_zpsc904fa27.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/gentleman4561/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1026_zpsc904fa27.jpg</a> <a href="http://s305.photobucket.com/user/gentleman4561/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1641_zps86c0a9dc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/gentleman4561/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1641_zps86c0a9dc.jpg</a> I think a new career opportunity has opened up for you! It would be almost poetic to do this on a chainsaw lower. |
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Quoted: How much do you charge? It would be almost poetic to do this on a chainsaw lower. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: People often ask where to get engraving done. Many of the tops places are often pricy once you factor in shipping and have long lead times. So why not do it your self? Building a 8" .300 BLK with a can and the whole rig will come in at under $900 <a href="http://s305.photobucket.com/user/gentleman4561/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1026_zpsc904fa27.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/gentleman4561/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1026_zpsc904fa27.jpg</a> <a href="http://s305.photobucket.com/user/gentleman4561/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1641_zps86c0a9dc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/gentleman4561/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1641_zps86c0a9dc.jpg</a> I think a new career opportunity has opened up for you! It would be almost poetic to do this on a chainsaw lower. |
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Why are you even engraving it? Per the NFA handbook definition, you aren't a Manufacturer! If it is a form 1 sbr he is. Nobody actually reads anything anymore, the internet say's to do it and if the internet says to do it then that makes it so? Have you read the NFA handbook? |
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Nobody actually reads anything anymore, the internet say's to do it and if the internet says to do it then that makes it so? Have you read the NFA handbook? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why are you even engraving it? Per the NFA handbook definition, you aren't a Manufacturer! If it is a form 1 sbr he is. Nobody actually reads anything anymore, the internet say's to do it and if the internet says to do it then that makes it so? Have you read the NFA handbook? From Chapter 6 - The serial number must be engraved or stamped on the receiver of the firearm and the caliber, model, and identification of the maker must be engraved on the barrel or frame or receiver of the weapon. The marking and identification requirements for a maker are the same as for a manufacturer. Refer to section 7.4 for a detailed discussion of the requirements. |
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I was going to hire gentleman4561 to engrave mine until I noticed his bad grammer. It's a shame as that's some fine work ya got there.
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i dont know what your day job is, but you need to quit it immediately and concentrate on engraving full time.
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Thanks for all the support guys! Stay tuned for my post in the Suppressor forum once my Maglite Form 1 comes back!
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From Chapter 6 - The serial number must be engraved or stamped on the receiver of the firearm and the caliber, model, and identification of the maker must be engraved on the barrel or frame or receiver of the weapon. The marking and identification requirements for a maker are the same as for a manufacturer. Refer to section 7.4 for a detailed discussion of the requirements. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why are you even engraving it? Per the NFA handbook definition, you aren't a Manufacturer! If it is a form 1 sbr he is. Nobody actually reads anything anymore, the internet say's to do it and if the internet says to do it then that makes it so? Have you read the NFA handbook? From Chapter 6 - The serial number must be engraved or stamped on the receiver of the firearm and the caliber, model, and identification of the maker must be engraved on the barrel or frame or receiver of the weapon. The marking and identification requirements for a maker are the same as for a manufacturer. Refer to section 7.4 for a detailed discussion of the requirements. You mean this, "existing firearm receiver... entered in Block 4(a) 6.2.1 Description of firearm. If an existing firearm or firearm receiver is being used, the name and location of the original manufacturer of the weapon should be entered in Block 4(a). If the applicant is making a completely new firearm, the applicant’s name and location should be entered in Block 4(a). The type of firearm being made, i.e., short barrel rifle, short barrel shotgun, any other weapon, silencer or destructive device, is to be entered in Block 4(b). The caliber or gauge of the firearm is to be entered in Block 4(c). If a model designation has been assigned to the firearm, that designation is to be placed in Block 4(d). If the weapon has no model designation, enter “none” in Block 4(d). The length of the barrel is to be entered, in inches, in Block 4(e) and the overall length of the firearm is to be entered, in inches, in Block 4(f). All NFA firearms must be identified by a serial number and other specified markings 95. If an existing firearm is being used in the making of the NFA weapon, and that firearm is serialized, the existing serial number should be used (unless it duplicates a serial number already used by the maker on Form 1) and entered in Block 4(g). If the weapon is of new manufacture, the applicant must assign a unique serial number and enter it in Block 4(g). For example, a unique serial number could be composed of at least 4 digits preceded by the initials of the maker. NOTE : alpha characters, e.g., a name, will not be accepted as a serial number. If a name is to be used, there must be at least one numeric character in addition to the alpha characters. The serial number must be engraved or stamped on the receiver of the firearm and the caliber, model, and identification of the maker must be engraved on the barrel or frame or receiver of the weapon. 96 The marking and identification requirements for a maker are the same as for a manufacturer. Refer to section 7.4 for a detailed disc ussion of the requirements. And, It isn't for sale. I am not a manufacturer by their definition: Section 7.2 What is a “manufacturer”?; What is “manufacturing”? 7.2.1 “Manufacturer”. As defined by the GCA, a “manufacturer” is any person engaged in the business of manufacturing fir earms or ammunition for purposes of sale or distribution. 109 Similarly, NFA defines the term to mean any person “who is engaged in the business of manufacturing firearms”, that is, firearms subject to the NFA. 110 To determine who is a “manufacturer” of firearms, we must look to see whether the person manufactures firearms as discussed in Section 7.2.2. 7.2.2 “Manufacturing”. “Manufacturing” is not defined by the law, regulations, or any formal ATF ruling. Nevertheless, the term has been interpreted by ATF to cover activities other than producing a firearm from scratch. As interpreted by ATF, the term covers virtually any work performed on a firearm during the process of preparing the firearm for subsequent sale. For example, a person having a contract with a manufacturer to apply finish ing or other work on firearms, or firearms frames or receivers, to prepare them for subsequent sale by the manufacturer would be a “manufacturer” required to qualify as such. Of course, if the person produced firearms parts other than frames or receivers for the manufacturer or performed work on firearms parts not defined as “firearms,” the person would not be a “manufacturer.” |
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Also, if you're building a firearm on a Form 1, you're a maker, not a manufacturer. |
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ATF Ruling 2013-3 Also, if you're building a firearm on a Form 1, you're a maker, not a manufacturer. View Quote ^This. A Form 1 is an Application to Make and Register an NFA Firearm. If you file a form 1 you are making the NFA item, not Spikes, Larue, BCM, etc that might already be stamped on your lower. Again it says as the maker of the NFA item: " identification of the maker must be engraved on the barrel or frame or receiver of the weapon". There doesn't seem to be any grey area in this area of the NFA handbook for me... |
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OP, how many glocks have you stippled and do you have pics of those?
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Ok. Now im confused. That seems like a pretty valid argument that would lead me to believe i DO NOT have to engrave my name and city/state on my BCM lower. Yeah im confused now..
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Ok. Now im confused. That seems like a pretty valid argument that would lead me to believe i DO NOT have to engrave my name and city/state on my BCM lower. Yeah im confused now.. View Quote What exactly is the "that" that you're referring to? I think this is your first post in the thread, and there have been several things mentioned (mixed in among all the fantastic comments about the OP's work). |
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Quoted: Please alternate between upper and lowercase! Haha. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Thanks for all the support guys! Stay tuned for my post in the Suppressor forum once my Maglite Form 1 comes back! Please alternate between upper and lowercase! Haha. |
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Ok. Now im confused. That seems like a pretty valid argument that would lead me to believe i DO NOT have to engrave my name and city/state on my BCM lower. Yeah im confused now.. View Quote There have been zero valid arguments against engraving a Form 1 lower with the maker's name, city and state in this thread. |
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Quoted: I think the wraparound letter makes it 10x as awesome as it would've been. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: This whole AR with a can and both stamps is coming in around $900. No sense in adding almost 10% to the cost just for some fancy engraving! "It's funny bc it's true." -Homer Simpson |
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Quoted: So. True. or 6.7% ? "It's funny bc it's true." -Homer Simpson View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I think the wraparound letter makes it 10x as awesome as it would've been. Quoted: This whole AR with a can and both stamps is coming in around $900. No sense in adding almost 10% to the cost just for some fancy engraving! "It's funny bc it's true." -Homer Simpson |
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Did mine with a dremel. Locked it up in a vice I have. Printed out a thick vinyl stencil and took my time. The letters arent the same and depth varies, but it works. http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w424/cfaulkner0006/IMAG07271.jpg View Quote That is really impressive! OP you got guts, nuts, motivation, and a "can do" attitude. crazy project gets a 10/10 in my book! "ATF whined about not having engraving... is THIS ENGRAVED ENOUGH FOR YA! " |
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Quoted: That is really impressive! OP you got guts, nuts, motivation, and a "can do" attitude. crazy project gets a 10/10 in my book! "ATF whined about not having engraving... is THIS ENGRAVED ENOUGH FOR YA! " View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Did mine with a dremel. Locked it up in a vice I have. Printed out a thick vinyl stencil and took my time. The letters arent the same and depth varies, but it works. http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w424/cfaulkner0006/IMAG07271.jpg That is really impressive! OP you got guts, nuts, motivation, and a "can do" attitude. crazy project gets a 10/10 in my book! "ATF whined about not having engraving... is THIS ENGRAVED ENOUGH FOR YA! " |
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For my second sbr I used a $8 stamp set from harbor freight. But I assume you already has the dremel and spending money was out of the question. Link? Too tough for you to go to Harbor Freight . Com and search for "stamp set"? here you go. I'll leave it to you to find a 20% coupon. |
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I bought the 1/4" set last week. Think that will be too large?
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If you use a label maker and put a label on the surface, all you need to do is follow the letters with the engraver.
I recommend a bandsaw to improve that lower.
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