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Posted: 6/6/2006 2:54:36 PM EDT
I m going t otry and buy a D-300 In the next week or two from Vic.,Is there really a weapon mount for these,because after hours of hunting a picture of one mounted to a Ar or anything for that matter ,I cant find one for the life of me.What options are there for head gear for it,and how many meapon mounts work for a flat top ar with the d-300.There is some info out there,but not much and really no pictures.This is my first NVD,and the 925.00 price is going to force me to sell a few things I hate to,but I think it would be interesting to use camping and maybe nite shooting if I could find a place to do it in or around central Fl.,Any help from D-300 OWNERS?
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Posted: 6/6/2006 4:31:09 PM EDT
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IM inbound.
The D-300 uses the same Mil-Spec head harness that comes standard with the PVS-14, MUM or PVS-7 or a commercial head harness. It also uses the same standard mil-spec issue PVS-14 mount as well. As for pictures, they're coming. Good questions and hope this helps. |
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Posted: 6/6/2006 6:21:05 PM EDT
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I had a D300 Gen 2+ that I bought from opticshq. Great scope, very happy with it. The IR illuminator on it is pretty bright, a lot brighter than the IR on a PVS14. Get Da'torch, awesome product, literally a flashlight / spotlight for night vision, a must have for Gen 2+ gear if you want to light up anything at a distance. Below is a picture of mine. Yeah I know the picture sucks but it gives you the general idea. The scope mount was purchased off ebay. It was an overrun PVS14 mount made by GG&G for ITT. The mount needed to be adapted a little to fit the D300 properly but it worked.
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Posted: 6/6/2006 10:30:50 PM EDT
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Thanks for the picture,I will tell you one thing,that pic is the only one online of a D-300 mounted to anything other than head gear,I may copy it to the nightvisionforums.com,because there isnt one there either.I will be getting one from Vic SOON,and will post a bunch of pictures for anyone interested IE Broke people
 Anyone else got pics ?
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Posted: 6/13/2006 4:06:43 PM EDT
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Here are some pics of the D-300 with a mil-spec PVS-14 weapon mount. Good platform for those on a tight budget, well except for the rifle, and DBAL A (2) unit!   
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Posted: 6/25/2006 10:04:06 AM EDT
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Who is the manufacturer of the NV mount? Does it provide a perfect co-witness with the Eo Tech? From these pictures it looks like it does. Thanks . J223... |
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Posted: 6/25/2006 5:10:01 PM EDT
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It does with Aimpoint or EoTech.Its head mountable and can be mounted to a day time scope with Universal adapter.Its built with what seems to be a really decent tube for the price,SOMEONE needs to take some pictures and start offering these
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Posted: 6/25/2006 7:04:58 PM EDT
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Indeed!  The Mil-Spec mount for the D-300 seen is USA made. It does co-witness perfectly with either a AP or EO. |
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Posted: 6/25/2006 7:08:42 PM EDT
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How does the performance of this D-300 unit compare with the ITT PVS-14? Not the external illuminator but the NV itself?
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Posted: 6/25/2006 7:38:32 PM EDT
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No way,I dont think it would even be close,950.00 for the D-300 and almost 3500 for the other,A person sent me some pictures he took of his door useing a 4 y/o cam. and it looked pretty good,I will post a bunch of pictures when I get mine
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Posted: 6/26/2006 8:22:50 AM EDT
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It depends on the version of the D300. It comes in a few flavors Gen2, or gen2+, and even Gen3 tubes. Even with the Gen3 tubes its not as good as the PVS-14 from what people say, due to inferior lenses (and it still costs almost as much). In general with the Gen2 units you will have way worse gain/resolution/Signal to noise. The gen2+ systems are better tubes so resolution is about half of the Gen3 units and gain (photoresponse) is about 1/2-1/4 of a gen3 system. Overall the Gen2+ I'd say is probably the best compromise in terms of cost/performace.
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Posted: 6/26/2006 1:02:19 PM EDT
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I also will be posting some NV pics soon. I would have this weekend, but I was testing so many other NV stuff, I forgot the 300 at home!
 I can tell you I am VERY impressed with the on board IR illuminator, it had good range out to 25 yards! Of course a high power illuminator is a must for a Gen 2 system, either at 25 or 100m!
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Posted: 6/26/2006 2:14:10 PM EDT
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I dunno vic, Gen2 is usable IMO without any sort of IR, it just depends on the ambient lighting coniditions. Starlight on an overcast night you are hosed, but if there is at least 1/4 moon+ about its usually fine. Of course gen3 is gonna always work better in crappy lighting. But where I'm at that only happens aobut 10% of the time.
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Posted: 6/26/2006 2:16:25 PM EDT
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Im going to be buying a torch to play with,I was wondering about it mounted to a scope,the built in IR will be for inside play
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Posted: 6/26/2006 3:16:33 PM EDT
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I don't think you can mount it TO a scope, you can mount it in front of an aimpoint/eothing. There are adapters to stick them to scopes but I dunno if will work with a D300.
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Posted: 6/26/2006 5:21:41 PM EDT
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thanks Harlikwin, that was the kind of info I was lookin for. |
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Posted: 6/26/2006 6:40:46 PM EDT
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I guess I am soooo used to looking and engaging at any time out to 200M+ in ANY condition without any IR needs. I would agree with the quarter moon approach....But range and target size has a great deal to do with it as well. Of course I could get on target with a large target (vehicle, etc), in any lighting condition with a Gen 2, but most of my resoution tests are done with a 12"x12" steel plate and the Gen 2 cannot see well at 200m with or without illuminatiion. The resolution as we know is just not there for these small targets. Now the Gen 2 SHP (DEP), I can engage these types of targets with a quarter moon or more. Gen 3, no matter what the lighting conditions, I can engage at will these types of targets. So in closing, it's all relative to what the size target as well lighting conditions. I've seen some pretty good marketing attempts with Gen 1 stuff with a full moon and a side of a building!  I hope to be taking some no moon pics this weekend with the D-300 with and without IR illumination at a 200m birm. Here are some good examples....These are Gen 3 and Gen 2 SHP with no moon or lighting on the range. Far birm is at 200m. The far lights are over several miles away. I will follow up with the Gen 2+ D300 soon. I will be posting a whole host of images with qtr mooon, half moon, full moon and no moon. Gen 3 PVS-14 No Moon  MUM Gen 2 SHP (DEP) NO Moon  Gen 3 PVS-14 Full Moon 30deg up 2 o'clock Position  MUM Gen 2 SHP Full Moon 30deg up 2 o'clock Position  Edited to add....No moon with some help from a pair of 85mW friends!! Heck even Gen 1 could manage with the help of these units!!    |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 1:46:09 PM EDT
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Would you happen to have the name of the manufacturer? J223... |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 3:09:41 PM EDT
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Well i just received a D-300 gen 2+ from Victor
I have never owned a NV device, however this thing is built like a tank. Since it is 24hrs of daylight now in Alaska, I had to resort to playing in my closet. With no abivent light whatsoever, I fliped the switch to on/IR and holy crap. I could read the writing on a box of .22 lr shells sitting on a shelf. My decision to purchase was based on having limited funds for a few high dollar items left to finish my Colt AR . So having saved $2500 vs a PVS 14 I can now buy a Schmidt & Bender scope. Thank you Victor Whichever you choose, buy with confidence from Victor |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 4:06:35 PM EDT
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The universal adapter will work just fine with the D-300 attached to a day scope. Hope this helps. Vic Edited...Thanks JR! I almost forgot you folks in Alaska are limited to closet looks with 23 hours of daylight at times!
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Posted: 6/27/2006 7:25:08 PM EDT
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Roger that,I could drive about 1 hour away and find one,but I trust that Victor will give me a better deal,and more than that,I think I would get a product.Glad to hear from a D-300 owner.
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Posted: 6/28/2006 7:07:06 AM EDT
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Vic,
Can a stndard PVS14 mount be used like one from Larue? |
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Posted: 6/28/2006 8:10:18 AM EDT
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No Zak. I asked Victor re: the Larue. it wont work
GG&G multi flex or arms #69 seem like they would work. I did have a hard time seeing thru my D-300 w/ aimpoint. but I think it would be different outside with a Datorch instead of my closet. |
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Posted: 6/28/2006 8:20:05 AM EDT
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The two mounts that will work with the D-300 is the Mil-Spec PVS-14 mount and also the PRI PVS-14 Night Vision Adjustable Scope Mount. (Used to be called the M69) The GG&G and the ARM#29 will not. The lens dimensions on the D-300 vs. the PVS-14 are different. Hope this helps.
Also, I will be taking some night shots with BOTH the EO and AP this weekend in conjunction with the D-300. |
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Posted: 6/28/2006 9:04:45 AM EDT
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tag
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Posted: 6/29/2006 9:47:22 AM EDT
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Thanks for the quick reply.... and please stop posting pictures. It makes me realize I have more than enough room on my VISA for a set up like this....lol BUt seriously, do you have pictures of both mounts? I still havent decided on using an aimpoint or an eotech for this 11.5" beast...lol |
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Posted: 6/29/2006 11:23:10 AM EDT
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Here is the PVS-14 Mil-Spec from the above thread. I do not have any mounted pics of the PRI mount, but here is a pic.  Edited to add...A huge price difference from the PRI at $270.00 vs. $109.00 for the Mil-Spec. The PRI lets you adjust the height which IMHO is not an issue while using the standard Mil-Spec mount as this mount see's the AP and EO's sight dot and reticle just fine. Hope this helps. |
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Posted: 6/30/2006 7:29:38 AM EDT
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Hey Vic,
Can you use those mounts using the top 2 mount holes? |
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Posted: 6/30/2006 9:01:40 AM EDT
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Indeed you could. There are a total of 3 mounting holes/screws. |
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Posted: 6/30/2006 10:33:37 AM EDT
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Well, more to the point, does it still cowitness using the milspec site, and does it fit on the PRI sight using the top holes?
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Posted: 6/30/2006 2:24:18 PM EDT
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Yes, and yes.
 Edited to add, (was in a hurry)....While all the holes are threaded, the one that you see mounted has grooves and notches machined into the body housing that locks the mounts via tabs on the mil-spec and the PRI mounts These tabs and grooves prevents the mount from any slippage. The other holes can be used, but will not be as secure as the main attach point. These other holes can eaisly be used for a tripod attachment where absolute tightness may not be needed due to recoil and such. Hope this helps. |
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Posted: 7/3/2006 6:34:03 PM EDT
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This thread has me very interested in the d-300. Awesome information guys.
Did anybody ever get the pictures taken with the d-300. I am thinking of purchasing the gen2+ Anybody on the forum sell the d-300? Thanks in advance. -Rob |
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Posted: 7/3/2006 10:58:55 PM EDT
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PICS coming, IM sent. |
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Posted: 7/4/2006 6:36:05 AM EDT
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Thanks for the IM Victor. IM sent back.
Happy 4th of July everyone ! |
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Posted: 7/4/2006 10:53:25 AM EDT
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Try nightvisionforums.com look in the review section.
Edited for: Happy 4th guys 
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Posted: 7/4/2006 12:57:11 PM EDT
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Guy that runs it there a wee bit biased.
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Posted: 7/5/2006 4:46:10 AM EDT
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Victor
Is the D300 compatible with a USGI rhino helmet mount? Also while looking at www.opticshq.com site I have noticed over the past few months, there seams to be less options in the D300 Gen II line. I thought I had seen a D300 Gen II that had a select grade tube. But then again I see a D300 Gen 3 grade A that has a similar price to the one I thought I had seen. Did they streamline their D300 line? Thanks Matt |
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Posted: 7/5/2006 7:53:18 AM EDT
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Hi Matt, the D-300 can use the same PVS-14 J-Arm that can connect the unit to the Rhino Flip Up...Also, the D-300 can accomadate a variety of tubes such as the Gen 2's, Gen 3's including of course the Select-A's or Grade-B's. Hope this helps.
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Posted: 7/5/2006 7:27:32 PM EDT
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Victor Thank for the info on the J-arm I appreciate that. I did know that the D300s could accommodate a variety of tubes. I did some more looking around and found that there were D300 Gen 2+ High Performance models available at one time. Would it be safe to say that those tubes have dried up? Thank you Matt |
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Posted: 7/5/2006 7:54:46 PM EDT
[#39]
Some Gen 2 SHP's are still availalble. Hope this helps.
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Posted: 7/5/2006 8:14:37 PM EDT
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Yes it does
Thank you |
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Posted: 7/9/2006 7:00:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/9/2006 9:51:19 PM EDT
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Yes, they are available. |
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