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Posted: 4/2/2022 5:58:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: https://photos.app.goo.gl/cYzCmmDcAJHHF9nM9 Here's a PTR 9CT with a couple of our parts. The trigger group makes the MP5 much faster in semi auto. The new grip angle and placement really helps the balance of the gun. The grip is .62" forward and .42" higher than the original. This moves a good bit of weight rearward, extends your length of pull, and lowers the bore axis over your firing hand. You can also drop mags with your index finger, without taking your hand off the grip, like AR. Photo isn't showing up. What trigger group? @Clint50  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/4/2022 3:16:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/4/2022 4:27:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/4/2022 12:39:37 AM EDT
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Bump so this doesn't get lost.
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Posted: 6/4/2022 1:24:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Photo isn't showing up. What trigger group? Looks like TFB did a article on it since he posted that, looks interesting but expensive https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2022/05/13/lee-sporting-sporting-trigger-group/ |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 6:48:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mine is very similar to this. I have a TLR-1 on an M-LOK hand guard. Pressure pad is on the left. Works great! Same, but no pressure pad. My left (non-firing) hand is already where it needs to be for my left index finger to activate the light when I need it. |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 7:44:06 AM EDT
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Heres what I have abd I wouldn't change a thing:
Magpul SL handguard Surefire tape switch (routed through handguard) Magpul switch holder Reptilia Torch body Surefire Vampire head Surefire tailcap  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 5:21:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/5/2022 5:51:34 AM EDT
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@Andrewc_c
What height is that Scalarworks mount that you have on there? Quote History |
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Posted: 6/7/2022 2:16:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where did you get that rubber band? Cut a slice of a bicycle inner tube. A bike shop would likely give you one for free, which equates to a lifetime supply. ...ranger bandz. 
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Posted: 6/7/2022 5:39:15 PM EDT
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Not uber-tactical, but I used a small section of MagPul MOE picatinny rail and drilled some holes to mount it on my wide handguard. Remove handguard and apply tape where you want to mount the raiil. Turn handguard upside down on a flat surface and put the rail against the side and mark the hole location and drill. Works great, light switch is manipulated with the left hand index finger.
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Posted: 6/8/2022 9:12:47 AM EDT
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 PTR, MI fore end, modlite in an Ariska mount, unity hot button, don't even remember the brand hook adapter, magpul grip and selector, octane with tri-lug adapter, mini cog in Larue mount. |
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Posted: 6/8/2022 1:26:37 PM EDT
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Another data point on optics:
Holosun AEMS on top of the MI Picatinny rail allows use of the iron sights as a backup. Yeah, it's way up there, but works nicely with NV.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 7:01:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Andrewc_c What height is that Scalarworks mount that you have on there? I’m pretty positive it’s a 1.57. |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 6:51:45 PM EDT
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Quote History@xciapup which can and 3lug mount is this? |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 11:05:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @xciapup which can and 3lug mount is this? Dead air. 3 lug. Wolf man. As I recall. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 9:00:43 AM EDT
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Surefire Scout on a Magpul offset mount and handguard
 
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Posted: 8/9/2022 6:10:19 AM EDT
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I realized that like with most guns, the light at 12 or 6 o’clock makes the gun more compact and just feels better.
The PTR rail and Magpul aluminum MLOK cantilever rail leave enough room for the supporting hand and a suppressor.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/9/2022 8:49:23 AM EDT
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Being a purist, I can’t bring myself to put a rail on an MP5. I have a Surefire, a B&T and Steiner LDITL for lighted handguards. The Steiner is obviously the most versatile as far as allowing any suppressor to be mounted.
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Posted: 8/9/2022 10:17:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2022 2:01:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Surefire Scout on a Magpul offset mount and handguard @TheStig FYI, the pressure pad cord can be routed through the hand guard nicely... https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2020/07/15/tfb-review-magpul-mp5-sl-handguards/ |
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Posted: 8/10/2022 10:35:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @TheStig FYI, the pressure pad cord can be routed through the hand guard nicely... https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2020/07/15/tfb-review-magpul-mp5-sl-handguards/ @CJofFL - I had actually already done this since posting that picture but never updated the post but thank you for the tag anyway! I opted not to route it through initially because I was waiting for my ModLite to come in. All nicely routed now and swapped out to a collapsing stock and SEF trigger housing. 
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Posted: 8/10/2022 4:44:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Being a purist, I can’t bring myself to put a rail on an MP5. I have a Surefire, a B&T and Steiner LDITL for lighted handguards. The Steiner is obviously the most versatile as far as allowing any suppressor to be mounted. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/59839/0CB9AD62-3305-492E-8582-0FF989A064A2_jpe-2482677.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/59839/FC55612B-B47C-483C-AA36-AC93A8F7886C_png-2482678.JPG I remember seeing this setup of yours before and loving it, it flows well |
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Posted: 8/10/2022 9:39:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember seeing this setup of yours before and loving it, it flows well Thanks. It’s an old pic. I put the TP9 suppressor on just to show the Steiner can accommodate it. The B&T looks a little oversized but it actually suppresses great. I really prefer the look of the classic look of the non-F A3 but the feel and comfort of the F…lol..so my solution was to have one of each. |
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Posted: 8/10/2022 10:29:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/22/2022 5:45:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After 30ish years, the Surefire handguard is still the best design I have short fingers, I so wish the switch was on the left side... |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 7:43:09 PM EDT
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I broke down and bought a B&T TL-99 light for my SP5 SBR. I was going to go the route of an Arisaka offset mount, Scout or other light, modlight, etc. on a MI Mlok rail, but felt the ergonomics were awkward to me on such a short platform so now I have a MI rail and some railscales if anyone is interested.
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Posted: 10/9/2022 12:59:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Being a purist, I can't bring myself to put a rail on an MP5. I have a Surefire, a B&T and Steiner LDITL for lighted handguards. The Steiner is obviously the most versatile as far as allowing any suppressor to be mounted. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/59839/0CB9AD62-3305-492E-8582-0FF989A064A2_jpe-2482677.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/59839/FC55612B-B47C-483C-AA36-AC93A8F7886C_png-2482678.JPG I just can't bring myself to use it after seeing the prices they go for now. Wish I had ordered 2 or 3 of them.
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Posted: 10/11/2022 10:26:28 AM EDT
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I setup my great value™ mp5k-pdw with light/controls similar to my AR's
Midwest MP5K handguard, Arisaka 300 w/ Malkoff E1HT on an Arisaka mlok offset mount, activated by a modbutton lite mounted on a trajectory arms nas-k on the sight post   
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Posted: 10/11/2022 11:11:07 AM EDT
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Playing around with some parts to see what works as we're getting into night shoot season.
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Posted: 10/12/2022 12:55:59 PM EDT
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How are people zeroing red dots with 147 grain ammo?
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Posted: 10/12/2022 2:03:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How are people zeroing red dots with 147 grain ammo? Out of my setup, I zero at 50yds. It's relatively flat trajectory out to about 75 yds with that zero, and then drops hard after that |
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Posted: 12/2/2022 12:26:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I setup my great value™ mp5k-pdw with light/controls similar to my AR's Midwest MP5K handguard, Arisaka 300 w/ Malkoff E1HT on an Arisaka mlok offset mount, activated by a modbutton lite mounted on a trajectory arms nas-k on the sight post https://distortion.io/i/IMG_6226.jpg https://distortion.io/i/IMG_6227.jpg https://distortion.io/i/IMG_6221.jpg @stiglitz_actual No issues with having the spent cases hitting the switch cable? I've been trying to sort out whether I use a Unity hot button or the modlite button. Whipped up a quick cantilever extension for the light on the offset 45 mount (Modlite PLHv2-18350) and 3d printing it. I like the NAS-K mount from Trajectory Arms, but they're out of stock. Might try and design and print something similar. I tried to mount the Unity hot button on the 45 adjacent to the A3 Tactical foregrip, but it is just too wide on the flat and takes away some of the usable width on the 45's on the MI MP5K rail. |
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Posted: 12/2/2022 9:22:43 AM EDT
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There is already one thread in here on this topic, so post in both!
Anyway, @LOS has the best setup on a P model. His picture. MI handguard and an Arisaka mount.  |
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Posted: 12/2/2022 10:34:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @stiglitz_actual No issues with having the spent cases hitting the switch cable? I've been trying to sort out whether I use a Unity hot button or the modlite button. Whipped up a quick cantilever extension for the light on the offset 45 mount (Modlite PLHv2-18350) and 3d printing it. I like the NAS-K mount from Trajectory Arms, but they're out of stock. Might try and design and print something similar. I tried to mount the Unity hot button on the 45 adjacent to the A3 Tactical foregrip, but it is just too wide on the flat and takes away some of the usable width on the 45's on the MI MP5K rail. No ejection issues, I'm around 1500rds of binary, mixed 124/147gr suppressed/open through my ap5p. The cable/connector are dirty but no damage The Modlite PLHv2-18350 is slightly longer/larger than this Arisaka 300 setup so it'd be close Can use the arisaka flat scout mount on the 2-oclock rail slot as well but it moves the light back and the endcap/cable will need to be specially routed to avoid the ejection port A cantilevered mount on the 2-oclock rail slot does put the light in a nice spot As far as switching, I went with the modbutton-lite/nas-k since there's minimal rail space on the -k size rail and also I run a similar modbutton setup on my rifles If you want switched lighting w/ a hotbutton I saw an oddly functional -k setup over on the mp5 reddit https://redd.it/vkapbt 
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Posted: 12/2/2022 11:23:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This (minus not being able to use a 3 lug suppressor) Actually that is not entirely true. I use an original Gemtech MP5 designed can and a Surefire Handguard. Changed the incandescent head to a short Malkoff head. It fits, small touch area - but it fits. Most modern cans don’t have the step down area so they never would work with this setup.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/2/2022 7:46:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No ejection issues, I'm around 1500rds of binary, mixed 124/147gr suppressed/open through my ap5p. The cable/connector are dirty but no damage The Modlite PLHv2-18350 is slightly longer/larger than this Arisaka 300 setup so it'd be close Can use the arisaka flat scout mount on the 2-oclock rail slot as well but it moves the light back and the endcap/cable will need to be specially routed to avoid the ejection port A cantilevered mount on the 2-oclock rail slot does put the light in a nice spot As far as switching, I went with the modbutton-lite/nas-k since there's minimal rail space on the -k size rail and also I run a similar modbutton setup on my rifles If you want switched lighting w/ a hotbutton I saw an oddly functional -k setup over on the mp5 reddit https://redd.it/vkapbt https://i.redd.it/6ffwyl0fur791.jpg I found a stl file of the Arisaka Inline Mount on thingiverse, and did a test print in PETG, and the light body holes are slightly too far apart so you have to start both screws and then tighten, but it causes the mount to bow a bit. It also puts the light head forward of the muzzle. I remixed it to make it about 10mm shorter, and changed the light body mount holes to flat instead of tapered. Printing a temp tower as I changed to a different brand of PETG, but I will print it and some mlok spacers so I can see about getting my unity hot button mounted. Model in Prusa Slicer  Sliced with support on build plate 
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Posted: 12/2/2022 10:43:12 PM EDT
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I used arisakas mlok inline mount for my K and it works great.
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Posted: 12/2/2022 11:20:13 PM EDT
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CaptShiess, what is the vertical grip/hand stop on your k? I'm looking for something similar for my p, thanks.
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Posted: 12/2/2022 11:51:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: CaptShiess, what is the vertical grip/hand stop on your k? I'm looking for something similar for my p, thanks. It looks like the A3 Tactical one. A3 Tactical Modular Foregrip (Compact) |
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Posted: 12/3/2022 12:11:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: CaptShiess, what is the vertical grip/hand stop on your k? I'm looking for something similar for my p, thanks. It looks like the A3 Tactical one. A3 Tactical Modular Foregrip (Compact) Correct, I’ve got the Hk size grip 2.75”. |
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Posted: 12/3/2022 9:38:55 AM EDT
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I'm assuming the m-lock aluminum mounting base?
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Posted: 12/3/2022 1:49:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm assuming the m-lock aluminum mounting base? Yes, there's 2 different ones, the compact is for the K. It is about 25mm wide, and the bottom rail width of the MI rail is only 17, so unless you mod something (foregrip would be best), you lose the use of the adjacent 45 degree rails. I have the 2" stubs on my K and 7" AR9, and ordered the 2.75" ones because the 2" is too small for my big hands. It's a relatively inexpensive and solid product. |
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Posted: 12/3/2022 9:48:53 PM EDT
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I ended up ordering a light from Arisaka Defense with the Malkoff head, and the offset mount because it gives me a bit more room to get the tailcap switch away from the ejection port. Switching from the DS00 tailcap to the UE tailcap helps though.
I got my Unity Hot Button to work with the A3 Tactical foregrip by remixing a 5mm MLOK spacer to bridge the 2 32x8 openings on the 45 degree interface under the light mount, and it positions the button perfect for my thumb to activate. Printed it and everything fits, just need to match the screws but 5mm longer. Printed in Prusament PETG at .15mm layer height 100% infill and 3 perimeters.  
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