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Originally Posted By Kimber_45:
Originally Posted By Plissken:
Originally Posted By MotherDearest:
SHTF Gear <snip> 16 magazines? Have you walked around with all that shit on and fully loaded yet? Christ man. With 1 meal, no water and no shelter I guess he wont be eating/ drinking, or sleeping either. The one MRE is a 2 day supply for me. I can sleep in the gear and throw on the goretex over it to stay dry from dew and such. I did add a camelback to the pack and will likely add another to the vest. I can hump atleast 5-7 miles(if I really put out) without water, without heatstroking/passing out/dying/etc. |
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Originally Posted By MotherDearest:
Edited-joker581 Your plan is to raid a Marine base with 100 pounds of gear, no food, no water, a crap load of IR chem lights and no night vision, a 4-16 Chinamart benchrest scope and no BUIS on your carbine then move several hundred miles? (toting aforementioned 100lbs of gear plus the raided supplies) I guess you can shoot squirrels with your pellet pistol and gig frogs with your flashlight. I think you need to stop, take a deep breath and think about what you are saying. Seriously, there are a lot of folks with really good, well thought out stuff on here. You need to think. |
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Originally Posted By MotherDearest:
Edited-joker581 Gosh darn it, I had a great post regarding your "Gear", but I hit page backwards and it got deleted. Guess it's a good thing for you... here's a brief recap of what I had laid out. Curahee might not be feeling like it, but I am feeling a little froggy and argumentative. What in the high holy hell are you talking about?? Being AD doesn't give you any advantage whatsoever. I've seen and trained my fair share of AD .Mil-types that couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper sack. The same principle applies to some LEO's as well. On the other hand, I've very much enjoyed training with .Mil / USG / LEO's that have been very squared away. Lemme give you a little help on a few things: 1. There's a metric butt-load of Active Duty, Reserve, and Veterans on this site. Those tank icons are what we call a "Clue". 2. I honestly think I see more ChiCom crap than American made gear. You're carrying IR Chem's, but you don't have any NOD's, and what the hell is with all the rifle ammo?? You going to invade Canada or something?? 3. Your planning needs some serious adjusting. I'd start out be deleting your current plan, and then re-evaluating everything. The whole "LeJune is a few miles away" aspect is WTF x 87. So you're going to hit up LeJune, get resupplied with food that you think may still be there... yeah that's just 4. Finally, your gear is borderline substandard, and its waaaayyy to friggen clean to have been used anywhere else besides a basement. Go take a few classes with that gear and see what happens. I doubt your gear would stand up to a four day class over at EAG, Thunder Ranch, or most other top notch schools. 5. "One MRE is a two day supply"???? Holy Crap.... really??? Best of luck with that one. Try the BS somewhere else... like over on SOCNET or PS. I'd love to see that happen. There's enough men & women here who have BTDT to smell BS when we see it. Now, since I'm not all about being an ass, I'd like to say a few positive things about your gear. 1. You gear is very clean. 2. You gear looks good for Bugging IN and hunkering down in a single location. 3. You have nice wood floors. 4. None of your pictures have your toes in them. -SS ETA: Since you're claiming you're Active Duty... how about you post a few pictures of you *working*??? I'm so friggen tempted to call Shenanigans and BS. |
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if youre AD and are near lejeune, are you implying you are a Marine? if so, you should know that in the event of something happening, all of the LCpls on the base will make anything and everything worth a damn disappear long before you can make it onto the base via one of the three gates.
side note, me and my buds always talked about what we would do if zombies invaded while we were on base. hit up the motor pool, then the armory, then supply, then CIF to steal stuff we can sell to the resistance, and then hunker down at the ASP. |
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Thanks ARJJ. I looked at a lot of chest rigs before ordering that one. I also have the Eagle chest rig for my AK, but that chest rig is pretty much naked for now. Without being able to try out most of the chest rigs on the market, I couldn’t make myself order a chest rig with fixed pouches and then realize it wasn’t what I wanted, and then end up ordering another fixed chest rig. I went with the cheap pouches for now, b/c I am not sure what layout I will actually end up with in the end. So, once I know what layout I want, then I may upgrade those cheap pouches. And even then, my gear is always evolving as with most folks.
Another aspect of having modular set-up and putting different sized pouches on it, is that I realized a thick chest rig interferes with going prone and getting in/out of vehicles (especially navigating pass the steering wheel), so I realized very quickly, that a single layer layout is what would work for me. I like what someone said recently, they only have things on their chest rig that makes holes and fix holes, for the most part. SMSP |
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Originally Posted By MotherDearest:
SHTF Gear http://i55.tinypic.com/2lw3c69.jpg Leg Platform http://i56.tinypic.com/2u91sac.jpg -Condor Platform(with IIIA panel inside) -Blackhawk pouch with 7x 30rd(M855) USGI mags -Steel collapseable baton War Belt http://i51.tinypic.com/11qpe9t.jpg -USGI pistol belt -2x USGI Alice mag pouches (6 mags of 30 M855) -USGI Moonbeam -Gas mask PASGT http://i53.tinypic.com/2jdmlp5.jpg -USMC issue goggles(desert locusts I believe?) -Mechanix gloves USMC 3-Day Pack http://i52.tinypic.com/2wfizhd.jpg ––Goretex top & bottom -OTIS 5.56 cleaning kit -Custom IFAK -E-Tool -Grenade pouch with electrical tape inside Inside the 3-Day pack http://i56.tinypic.com/wsw5yc.jpg -OD Duct tape -Bando of 120rds of M855 -40 channel radio with batteries and Willy-P bag. -Floating flashlight(was like $5-6 at walmart) -MRE -Chemlights(IR) -Hilco weapon wipes -In-line water filter -Pellet pistol with ammo(excellent squirrel killer) Oly K-16 http://i53.tinypic.com/k8ga9.jpg -Osprey 4-16x50mm illum reticle Plate Carrier http://i52.tinypic.com/20z8goh.jpg -Full IIIA soft panels -Front and back Ceramic SAPIs -Single point sling -My favorite knife in the world -Mini maglite -Sidewinder -Triple-Triple MOLLE Mag pouch(9mags of 30rds of M855) Wow, since so many have already tried to correct this obviously high speed individual I guess I'll keep this short. All that weight on one leg will make our short little friend here topple over when he goes to "hump" his first mile. Sounds to me alot like someone that lives near a military base and hase been to one too many surplus stores. Have fun guy, and do us all a favor and post a pic with all your go to war gear on at once. I want to see you oompa loompa impression. |
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Originally Posted By Shackelton1:
Originally Posted By MotherDearest:
SHTF Gear http://i55.tinypic.com/2lw3c69.jpg Leg Platform http://i56.tinypic.com/2u91sac.jpg -Condor Platform(with IIIA panel inside) -Blackhawk pouch with 7x 30rd(M855) USGI mags -Steel collapseable baton War Belt http://i51.tinypic.com/11qpe9t.jpg -USGI pistol belt -2x USGI Alice mag pouches (6 mags of 30 M855) -USGI Moonbeam -Gas mask PASGT http://i53.tinypic.com/2jdmlp5.jpg -USMC issue goggles(desert locusts I believe?) -Mechanix gloves USMC 3-Day Pack http://i52.tinypic.com/2wfizhd.jpg ––Goretex top & bottom -OTIS 5.56 cleaning kit -Custom IFAK -E-Tool -Grenade pouch with electrical tape inside Inside the 3-Day pack http://i56.tinypic.com/wsw5yc.jpg -OD Duct tape -Bando of 120rds of M855 -40 channel radio with batteries and Willy-P bag. -Floating flashlight(was like $5-6 at walmart) -MRE -Chemlights(IR) -Hilco weapon wipes -In-line water filter -Pellet pistol with ammo(excellent squirrel killer) Oly K-16 http://i53.tinypic.com/k8ga9.jpg -Osprey 4-16x50mm illum reticle Plate Carrier http://i52.tinypic.com/20z8goh.jpg -Full IIIA soft panels -Front and back Ceramic SAPIs -Single point sling -My favorite knife in the world -Mini maglite -Sidewinder -Triple-Triple MOLLE Mag pouch(9mags of 30rds of M855) Wow, since so many have already tried to correct this obviously high speed individual I guess I'll keep this short. All that weight on one leg will make our short little friend here topple over when he goes to "hump" his first mile. Sounds to me alot like someone that lives near a military base and hase been to one too many surplus stores. Have fun guy, and do us all a favor and post a pic with all your go to war gear on at once. I want to see you oompa loompa impression. I'd like to see the whole ensemble worn, myself. |
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Originally Posted By ARJJ:
Originally Posted By Shackelton1:
Originally Posted By MotherDearest:
SHTF Gear http://i55.tinypic.com/2lw3c69.jpg Leg Platform http://i56.tinypic.com/2u91sac.jpg -Condor Platform(with IIIA panel inside) -Blackhawk pouch with 7x 30rd(M855) USGI mags -Steel collapseable baton War Belt http://i51.tinypic.com/11qpe9t.jpg -USGI pistol belt -2x USGI Alice mag pouches (6 mags of 30 M855) -USGI Moonbeam -Gas mask PASGT http://i53.tinypic.com/2jdmlp5.jpg -USMC issue goggles(desert locusts I believe?) -Mechanix gloves USMC 3-Day Pack http://i52.tinypic.com/2wfizhd.jpg ––Goretex top & bottom -OTIS 5.56 cleaning kit -Custom IFAK -E-Tool -Grenade pouch with electrical tape inside Inside the 3-Day pack http://i56.tinypic.com/wsw5yc.jpg -OD Duct tape -Bando of 120rds of M855 -40 channel radio with batteries and Willy-P bag. -Floating flashlight(was like $5-6 at walmart) -MRE -Chemlights(IR) -Hilco weapon wipes -In-line water filter -Pellet pistol with ammo(excellent squirrel killer) Oly K-16 http://i53.tinypic.com/k8ga9.jpg -Osprey 4-16x50mm illum reticle Plate Carrier http://i52.tinypic.com/20z8goh.jpg -Full IIIA soft panels -Front and back Ceramic SAPIs -Single point sling -My favorite knife in the world -Mini maglite -Sidewinder -Triple-Triple MOLLE Mag pouch(9mags of 30rds of M855) Wow, since so many have already tried to correct this obviously high speed individual I guess I'll keep this short. All that weight on one leg will make our short little friend here topple over when he goes to "hump" his first mile. Sounds to me alot like someone that lives near a military base and hase been to one too many surplus stores. Have fun guy, and do us all a favor and post a pic with all your go to war gear on at once. I want to see you oompa loompa impression. I'd like to see the whole ensemble worn, myself. +1 I wouldn't have worn all that's shit unless I was absolutely forced to. The way I figure it is when the SHTF we follow the trail of BS and at the end of the trail we will be in gear whore heaven. |
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Edited-joker581
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Originally Posted By somekindofboogin:
Edited-joker581. Maybe you should consider the fact that 'tactical gear' is serious to some people. This is a serious fucking business and if someone posts bullshit they're going to be put in their place by people who take the time out of their day to donate their wisdom to folks that aren't as experienced. We're discussing equipment used in gunfighting, not fucking toys, whether it be military, law enforcement, or personal protection use. If you want to flaunt stupid gear that you have so you can look cool to the call of duty crowd, go somewhere else. Oh yeah and "raiding the base"? As a service member that is both offensive and retarded. |
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Who doesn't love ammo and mags? And maybe he has walked in that stuff. And so what if he isn't sporting the name "hip" brands.
The real question is why? What could you possibly hope to survive with that many magazines? And if you were active duty, I would think you'd want to carry less, not more(unless you're a REMF who doesn't train). I'm required to carry 7 mags here in A-Stan, and I'd be happy to go down to three or four on me, 1 in the weapon. The rest could go in an assault pack or something like the Ares Combat Pack. To each his own though. If you train like you fight, and plan on fighting like that, only the end will tell. |
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Originally Posted By somekindofboogin:
Edited-joker581. LOL You don't have much experience wearing gear do you? Because you would know that no one will be moving fast with all that shit strapped to your body. My opinion is backed by years in the infantry and years wearing and training in gear and getting other civilians to wear and train in gear. There are others here with more experience than me saying the same thing. |
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CAN WE GET A PIC OF THIS GUY IN ALL HIS GEAR?
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Originally Posted By somekindofboogin:
Edited-joker581. WTF??? Seriously??? Where are all these bozo's with recent join dates and a complete lack of respect / reality coming from?? Knock off the Personal Attacks as it only makes you look like a douchenozzle. You have no credibility, nobody really cares what others have to say when they post just crap like that. I would love to see the poster pose with all that crap on, I'd love to see him move as fast as me with all that gear on, and I'd really like it if you'd stop posting if you don't have anything useful to say. Oh yeah, check out CoC #6 before you get a timeout / ban. -SS |
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Gentlemen, this is a technical forum. It is not General Discussion, or awrm.org, or assaultweb or any other place where posting personal attacks and retarded nonsense about raiding American military bases is tolerated. It's unlike me to edit numerous posts instead of just locking a thread but I did it anyway because so many people have put so much effort into this thread.
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Originally Posted By joker581:
Gentlemen, this is a technical forum. It is not General Discussion, or awrm.org, or assaultweb or any other place where posting personal attacks and retarded nonsense about raiding American military bases is tolerated. It's unlike me to edit numerous posts instead of just locking a thread but I did it anyway because so many people have put so much effort into this thread. Thanks Joker. -SS |
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Originally Posted By Kimber_45:
My gear. Everything I need nothing I dont for second line. http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/kimber_45/DSC04189.jpg Who makes this? |
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Originally Posted By pseudosuit:
Originally Posted By Kimber_45:
My gear. Everything I need nothing I dont for second line. http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/kimber_45/DSC04189.jpg Who makes this? I think he said it was Diamondback Tactical. I've looked for one myself, and I can't find anyone selling it. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Diamondback tactical and battlelab are the same thing. I ordered it out of a catalog they sent me probably 2 years or so ago. I would try googling battlelab low profile chest rig. I think it was like $90.
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It may be discontinued. I googled it and he first search was me asking about it here in 2008 lol.
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Would someone be kind enough to explain to me how to get the tank icon? It was my belief that it was a paying-member-only ordeal. My bad. I wonder should I even try to explain my 'plan' and gear and how I believe I could make it work or is the bashing just going to continue? <You can send an email to: [email protected] with a recent redacted ERB/LES from your .mil email.-NorCal> |
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Originally Posted By MotherDearest:
<Removed. -NorCal> It's illegal to take a picture of your CAC card. Boot. |
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Originally Posted By MotherDearest:
<Removed. -NorCal> can you take a pic of you wearing the gear you had pictured? |
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Really?! Posting a fucking picture of your ID on the internet?!
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Originally Posted By MotherDearest:
<Removed. -NorCal> sweet buddha I cant believe you posted pics of that ID car and gave your name you better take that shit down kid |
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Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
Originally Posted By MotherDearest:
<Removed. -NorCal>? sweet buddha I cant believe you posted pics of that ID car and gave your name you better take that shit down kid +1, i have been around for a decently long time, seen a good amount of but when never that |
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A general reply/explanation to the slams:
Agreed, the "gear" is heavy but I've humped easily 80lbs of gear + a saw 12 miles and didn't fall out where there were guys twice my size, minus the saw, dropping out(thus the active duty 'advantage' I talked about, aka lots of practice). I take pride in being able to best many of my peers and especially the majority of my NCOs. Plus I've always been good at the forced march. As for moving quickly or fighting with the gear, it ain't gonna happen. That's what quick release is for. It can come off quick in layers as need be. Also, the gear is clean because I clean it. I clean it because that's how I've always been taught. For the other active duty, what do you do to your shit before you turn it in to CIF? You clean it. Why would anyone leave their gear dirty unless they were trying to look hardcore to that call of duty crowd of basement warriors anyway? You clean your rifles don't you? Why not your other stuff? As for the comment about it being substandard; it isn't nearly the best out there(I WOULD IMAGINE). I don't know what the 'best' is. I do know that regardless of brand, nationality, commonly accepted level of quality, etc, etc., it works well enough for me. Is it the gear I'd really like to have? No. But it's what I've got, right here, right now. I have to make do. The only Item that came from a surplus store was the baton I threw on the leg platform for giggles. It's completely useless and unneccessary as is the majority of the rest of the gear. It's a gear porn thread. I posted gear. Apparently that rates a slam a gang bang on me. Do I take this seriously, yes. Do I believe in having fun with it sometimes, yes. If everyone will chill out I'll show my grand idea for SUPERHSLD(Yes it's another joke also).You want to see a more realistic loadout? Cool, I can do that. Just calm the fuck down. And the MRE really could last me 2 days. Day 1- use the juice mix and a couple of little things to keep electrolytes(spelling?) and some nutrients in my system. Day 2 when I'm really hungry, start into the main meal/sides. I don't eat a whole lot, thus the skinny-ness. I did this alot in Bootcamp and through MCT(yeah, I'm a POG). The IR chems are for giggle/wtf factor. I wouldn't seriously take them anywhere. Again, lets take a deep breath, have a smoke and calm down a little, please? The scope is a cheapy. It isnt an eotech or HSLD but it works for it's intended purpose(a method of aim doubling for decent ranged observation). I wasn't about to buy another Swarvoski Z5 5-25x52mm to put on an Oly K-16. Cheap rifle gets a cheap scope. I plan on improvement but this is my first AR and at the time, I didn't have fanatical advice on do's and don'ts. Cut me some slack. |
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Originally Posted By Heineken:
Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
Originally Posted By MotherDearest:
<Removed. -NorCal>? sweet buddha I cant believe you posted pics of that ID car and gave your name you better take that shit down kid +1, i have been around for a decently long time, seen a good amount of but when never that Believe me now? |
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That will conclude the call outs and off topic discussion.
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Originally Posted By Currahee:
I was looking for a pic to try and steer one of my favorite threads away from clusterfuck and dug out an oldie and I realize how even when I change my gear it comes back to this (2006 and it was a year old at that time) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/currahee/0612163-h-3-crop.jpg I sold that to try a couple of different chest rigs and here I am last month - what's old is new again http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/currahee/recent%20range%20pics/DSCN5836.jpg did you mean to post 2 differnt pics comparing your old/new gear? ETA I guess I was slow typer |
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Originally Posted By MotherDearest:
<I'll do you a favor and edit out all your personal information. Your PERSEC is severely lacking. You are welcome to post on this site but please safeguard your information, especially as it pertains to your MIL info. -NorCal> Would someone be kind enough to explain to me how to get the tank icon? It was my belief that it was a paying-member-only ordeal. My bad. I wonder should I even try to explain my 'plan' and gear and how I believe I could make it work or is the bashing just going to continue? <You can send an email to: [email protected] with a recent redacted ERB/LES from your .mil email.-NorCal> It will probably just continue. Just being honest here. Your loadout just sceams "boot", and the rest of this nonsense confirms it. Why don't you just take a step back and let the fire die down, because it will be even worse for you if you act like this in the military forum. |
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Originally Posted By Hawkeye:
Various training pics over the years, using different iterations of gear setups. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Training/me2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Training/Magpul%20Advanced%20Carbine/Day2-17.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Training/Magpul%20Advanced%20Carbine/Day1-10.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Training/Vickers%20M4C/fallujah20drill.jpg And some current stuff..... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Gear/LRRP1.jpg What kind of chest rig is that in the bottom picture? |
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Originally Posted By daemon734:
Originally Posted By MotherDearest:
<I'll do you a favor and edit out all your personal information. Your PERSEC is severely lacking. You are welcome to post on this site but please safeguard your information, especially as it pertains to your MIL info. -NorCal> Would someone be kind enough to explain to me how to get the tank icon? It was my belief that it was a paying-member-only ordeal. My bad. I wonder should I even try to explain my 'plan' and gear and how I believe I could make it work or is the bashing just going to continue? <You can send an email to: [email protected] with a recent redacted ERB/LES from your .mil email.-NorCal> It will probably just continue. Just being honest here. Your loadout just sceams "boot", and the rest of this nonsense confirms it. Why don't you just take a step back and let the fire die down, because it will be even worse for you if you act like this in the military forum. The loadout was a joke. Sarcasm. Not realistic. Done. |
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Originally Posted By whoreable:
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/4457/gearb.jpg http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/1294/gear3u.jpg http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8283/gear5.jpg I thought i read some where that you were not suppose to put MBUS on gas blocks. |
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