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Posted: 9/2/2022 10:21:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well… Made it through episode one. It is truly terrible. I’m betting it doesn’t improve. I have to agree. I'm not a fan anyway. I have not seen the hobbit movies. I hated reading the books as it was forced on me in grade school. This was slow, sappy, & made little sense to me. At least with LOTR there was a good verbal/showing of what the hell was going on. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 1:00:55 PM EDT
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Unsurprisingly Amazon and SJW media are attempting to sell the narrative that the only reason this show is getting bad reviews is because of racists and trolls. Of course it has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the show.
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Posted: 9/3/2022 1:19:43 PM EDT
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My wife and I suffered through the first 2 episodes last night.
It was worse than I thought it would be. Awful acting made for truly forgettable characters. The whole gurl powerrr schtick w/ Guyladriel, Disa, and Nori ruins it as well. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 1:47:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unsurprisingly Amazon and SJW media are attempting to sell the narrative that the only reason this show is getting bad reviews is because of racists and trolls. Of course it has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the show. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/1D121A46-9766-4F16-9CA7-25840B8AB6D6_jpe-2512955.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/94861C20-6811-4FF2-97BA-8EB5EECDDF48_jpe-2512956.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/F6E5F5E2-3DA7-4D25-A6D9-FC6B879567E4_jpe-2512957.JPG 
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Posted: 9/3/2022 1:58:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Unsurprisingly Amazon and SJW media are attempting to sell the narrative that the only reason this show is getting bad reviews is because of racists and trolls. Of course it has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the show. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/1D121A46-9766-4F16-9CA7-25840B8AB6D6_jpe-2512955.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/94861C20-6811-4FF2-97BA-8EB5EECDDF48_jpe-2512956.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/F6E5F5E2-3DA7-4D25-A6D9-FC6B879567E4_jpe-2512957.JPG https://media4.giphy.com/media/5bs3vKnoX9xLPAiwy9/200.gif  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 2:14:35 PM EDT
[#6]
I feel like it took way to long to get to the point and there is still half the team off on side quests
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Posted: 9/3/2022 4:04:24 PM EDT
[#7]
I watched it. In some ways, it ain’t bad. The worst part is how wantonly they are re-writing shit and changing established mythos.
Gandalf came much later and on a boat, not shot out of a cannon and dropped on a bunch of Harfoots as a meteor. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 4:31:36 PM EDT
[#8]
It's fucking SLOW.
Really really SLOW. There is way too much filler. I could give a fuck about the race/creed/religion of the actors that are portraying the characters, but for fucks sake, they should have hired actors with talent. I could cut the first two episodes and make a good webisode of 15 minutes or so. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 4:33:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/3/2022 4:35:43 PM EDT
[#10]
Visually it looks amazing but the acting is terrible.
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Posted: 9/3/2022 4:40:08 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My wife and I suffered through the first 2 episodes last night. It was worse than I thought it would be. Awful acting made for truly forgettable characters. The whole gurl powerrr schtick w/ Guyladriel, Disa, and Nori ruins it as well. I just noticed this thread and agree....omg the first thing I noticed was the gurl power and diversity shoved in our faces. And none of the characters are interesting. Makes me want to root for the orcs ffs. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 5:20:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My wife and I suffered through the first 2 episodes last night. It was worse than I thought it would be. Awful acting made for truly forgettable characters. The whole gurl powerrr schtick w/ Guyladriel, Disa, and Nori ruins it as well. I only made it through the first one, yes bad acting, it seems to directed as if you already supposed to know what was going on making it hard follow let alone get sucked in unlike the movies where you are captivated by the story from beginning to end. To make matters worse it is saturated with so much SJW bullcrap I wanted to puke. Has not Amazon been watching their competitor Netflix and the toll the Left Wing SJW crap has taken on their business? |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 5:37:04 PM EDT
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Yep, bad acting and no really likeable characters as of yet. Very, very, VERY slow....as it holy shit I'm gonna fall asleep.
Harfoots are all annoying as hell, no way I'd give Ewoks a bad name and compare the 2 like that. I wish the meteor would have landed on the village. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 5:45:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI'm surprised it's that high on the audience score. Even without the constant woke messages it's just not well written or engaging at all. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 5:48:08 PM EDT
[#15]
I’ve watched the two new episodes, so what that there are black elves and black dwarves. It’s a good show.
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Posted: 9/3/2022 5:52:19 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I watched it. In some ways, it ain’t bad. The worst part is how wantonly they are re-writing shit and changing established mythos. Gandalf came much later and on a boat, not shot out of a cannon and dropped on a bunch of Harfoots as a meteor. That's why it isn't well received. The characters could all be black and the plot whatever they want and no one would care if it was something new rather than attempting to recreate and change a popular classic. Same shit with Marvel's race bending. Just make a new character ffs. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 6:02:19 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm surprised it's that high on the audience score. Even without the constant woke messages it's just not well written or engaging at all. Dropped to 34 after that now 37  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 6:36:52 PM EDT
[#18]
As horrible as this show's portrayal of Galadriel might be, it could be worse.
Watching college football today I keep seeing commercials for new TV shows where the main character is an old and/or fat woman playing a seemingly "badass" LEO. Imagine if they cast Melissa McCarthy to play Galadriel.  |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 6:41:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dropped to 34 after that now 37 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/8D183299-532A-4B90-A581-FE9A2450FCEA_jpe-2513335.JPG That seems much more likely. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 6:43:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That seems much more likely. I screenshotted the first minute it dropped in case RT bumped it to 99 and froze it. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 6:45:35 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As horrible as this show's portrayal of Galadriel might be, it could be worse. Watching college football today I keep seeing commercials for new TV shows where the main character is an old and/or fat woman playing a seemingly "badass" LEO. Imagine if they cast Melissa McCarthy to play Galadriel. See my “media’s latest - hot women threads” that GD keeps demanding me banned for |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 7:10:37 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As horrible as this show's portrayal of Galadriel might be, it could be worse. Watching college football today I keep seeing commercials for new TV shows where the main character is an old and/or fat woman playing a seemingly "badass" LEO. Imagine if they cast Melissa McCarthy to play Galadriel. You mean, how they cast Queen Latifah in The Equalizer 
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Posted: 9/3/2022 7:12:38 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve watched the two new episodes, so what that there are black elves and black dwarves. It’s a good show. Has nothing to do with there being black elves and dwarves or female leads. It's the fact they are changing existing storylines to fit them in and taking it to an extreme. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 7:38:12 PM EDT
[#24]
I shut it off after three minutes. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 11:17:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You mean, how they cast Queen Latifah in The Equalizer Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As horrible as this show's portrayal of Galadriel might be, it could be worse. Watching college football today I keep seeing commercials for new TV shows where the main character is an old and/or fat woman playing a seemingly "badass" LEO. Imagine if they cast Melissa McCarthy to play Galadriel. You mean, how they cast Queen Latifah in The Equalizer These were all new shows that came out or will come recently, but, yeah, that's another one. That's one of the best (or "worst") examples too. "Our show needs a badass lead. Hmm... I KNOW! Let's cast an obese black woman in her 50s!"  |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 11:24:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These were all new shows that came out or will come recently, but, yeah, that's another one. That's one of the best (or "worst") examples too. "Our show needs a badass lead. Hmm... I KNOW! Let's cast an obese black woman in her 50s!" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: As horrible as this show's portrayal of Galadriel might be, it could be worse. Watching college football today I keep seeing commercials for new TV shows where the main character is an old and/or fat woman playing a seemingly "badass" LEO. Imagine if they cast Melissa McCarthy to play Galadriel. You mean, how they cast Queen Latifah in The Equalizer These were all new shows that came out or will come recently, but, yeah, that's another one. That's one of the best (or "worst") examples too. "Our show needs a badass lead. Hmm... I KNOW! Let's cast an obese black woman in her 50s!" What were these new shows? I want to laugh too! 
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Posted: 9/3/2022 11:37:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What were these new shows? I want to laugh too! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: As horrible as this show's portrayal of Galadriel might be, it could be worse. Watching college football today I keep seeing commercials for new TV shows where the main character is an old and/or fat woman playing a seemingly "badass" LEO. Imagine if they cast Melissa McCarthy to play Galadriel. You mean, how they cast Queen Latifah in The Equalizer These were all new shows that came out or will come recently, but, yeah, that's another one. That's one of the best (or "worst") examples too. "Our show needs a badass lead. Hmm... I KNOW! Let's cast an obese black woman in her 50s!" What were these new shows? I want to laugh too! I barely remember (thank Christ). One was about some "sassy" fat black woman cop that was probably over 50 (no, not the one Queen Latifa one) and the other was about a skinny white woman who looked like was probably over 50 too. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 11:40:56 PM EDT
[#28]
This one is for the people that know the books because they've read them AND they liked them ... and yes, language warning, mostly towards the end.
JSG is ... center-left or left, possibly independent, knows and likes the books; outlines some of the stupidly bad mistakes they made regarding the source. Not "we had to convert it for the different format" mistakes.  The Rings of Power: Worse Than I Feared --------------------- ETA: Metacritic user score of 1.9 out of 100 with 644 user reviews, critics score of 71 with 37 reviews. https://www.metacritic.com/tv/the-lord-of-the-rings-the-rings-of-power |
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Posted: 9/4/2022 12:09:02 AM EDT
[#29]
Watched the first episode. It would have been great as a standalone story that just shamelessly borrowed from Tolkien like 90% of fantasy has for decades now, It is an abomination to anyone who's read Tolkien because it just doesn't mesh at all with what he wrote. They didn't even try to mesh it, It's just like "We bought the rights to these names over this time period so eat it you dirty plebes!"
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Posted: 9/4/2022 12:28:42 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Watched the first episode. It would have been great as a standalone story that just shamelessly borrowed from Tolkien like 90% of fantasy has for decades now, It is an abomination to anyone who's read Tolkien because it just doesn't mesh at all with what he wrote. They didn't even try to mesh it, It's just like "We bought the rights to these names over this time period so eat it you dirty plebes!" That's really not all that different from how Star Trek Discovery started off. "Here's some generic sci fi that doesn't look anything like the Star Trek you know and love but, trust us, we threw some Star Trek buzz words like 'deflector array' and 'phasers' in there so it's definitely Star Trek!" 
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Posted: 9/4/2022 1:04:59 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's really not all that different from how Star Trek Discovery started off. "Here's some generic sci fi that doesn't look anything like the Star Trek you know and love but, trust us, we threw some Star Trek buzz words like 'deflector array' and 'phasers' in there so it's definitely Star Trek!" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Watched the first episode. It would have been great as a standalone story that just shamelessly borrowed from Tolkien like 90% of fantasy has for decades now, It is an abomination to anyone who's read Tolkien because it just doesn't mesh at all with what he wrote. They didn't even try to mesh it, It's just like "We bought the rights to these names over this time period so eat it you dirty plebes!" That's really not all that different from how Star Trek Discovery started off. "Here's some generic sci fi that doesn't look anything like the Star Trek you know and love but, trust us, we threw some Star Trek buzz words like 'deflector array' and 'phasers' in there so it's definitely Star Trek!" UM ... You do remember that some of the writers on AROP came from STD? IIRC, one or more were not just writers of an episode here or there on std, but directing the writing overall ...? Oh, yeah, people saying how they were considering cheering for the orcs ... remember when people were cheering for the klingon badguys in STD? Pepperige farms and all that. |
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Posted: 9/4/2022 1:12:54 AM EDT
[#32]
I thought the first episode was ok. Nothing really special, but not complete garbage. All the characters outside of the high elf woman were bland, but they didn't do a think to develop them yet.
So hoping bad guy makes an appearance soon and carries the show. A Homelander type of villain. |
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Posted: 9/4/2022 1:24:29 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: UM ... You do remember that some of the writers on AROP came from STD? IIRC, one or more were not just writers of an episode here or there on std, but directing the writing overall ...? Oh, yeah, people saying how they were considering cheering for the orcs ... remember when people were cheering for the klingon badguys in STD? Pepperige farms and all that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Watched the first episode. It would have been great as a standalone story that just shamelessly borrowed from Tolkien like 90% of fantasy has for decades now, It is an abomination to anyone who's read Tolkien because it just doesn't mesh at all with what he wrote. They didn't even try to mesh it, It's just like "We bought the rights to these names over this time period so eat it you dirty plebes!" That's really not all that different from how Star Trek Discovery started off. "Here's some generic sci fi that doesn't look anything like the Star Trek you know and love but, trust us, we threw some Star Trek buzz words like 'deflector array' and 'phasers' in there so it's definitely Star Trek!" UM ... You do remember that some of the writers on AROP came from STD? IIRC, one or more were not just writers of an episode here or there on std, but directing the writing overall ...? Oh, yeah, people saying how they were considering cheering for the orcs ... remember when people were cheering for the klingon badguys in STD? Pepperige farms and all that. I do.
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Posted: 9/4/2022 1:35:59 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: UM ... You do remember that some of the writers on AROP came from STD? IIRC, one or more were not just writers of an episode here or there on std, but directing the writing overall ...? Oh, yeah, people saying how they were considering cheering for the orcs ... remember when people were cheering for the klingon badguys in STD? Pepperige farms and all that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Watched the first episode. It would have been great as a standalone story that just shamelessly borrowed from Tolkien like 90% of fantasy has for decades now, It is an abomination to anyone who's read Tolkien because it just doesn't mesh at all with what he wrote. They didn't even try to mesh it, It's just like "We bought the rights to these names over this time period so eat it you dirty plebes!" That's really not all that different from how Star Trek Discovery started off. "Here's some generic sci fi that doesn't look anything like the Star Trek you know and love but, trust us, we threw some Star Trek buzz words like 'deflector array' and 'phasers' in there so it's definitely Star Trek!" UM ... You do remember that some of the writers on AROP came from STD? IIRC, one or more were not just writers of an episode here or there on std, but directing the writing overall ...? Oh, yeah, people saying how they were considering cheering for the orcs ... remember when people were cheering for the klingon badguys in STD? Pepperige farms and all that. Do people really refer to it as "STD"? 
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Posted: 9/4/2022 2:30:03 AM EDT
[#35]
All rating sites are being bumped up tonight
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Posted: 9/4/2022 2:38:03 AM EDT
[#36]
Buys shit knowing it is shit
Consumes the shit knowing it is shit Complains that the shit you bought knowing it’s shit tastes like shit Wonders why everything is shit. It’s because you bought the shit knowing it is shit. That’s why everything is shit. The 65% of people that bought the shit are the problem. You are literally rewarding the people that feed you shit because they know you can’t not buy and eat the shit. |
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Posted: 9/4/2022 2:40:15 AM EDT
[#37]
I will probably watch it in due time - I watch tons of crap, probably will not be at the bottom of the heap. But I refuse to give them the credit of a view at this point.
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Posted: 9/4/2022 2:54:52 AM EDT
[#38]
This sounds like Battlefield Earth all over again.
..A pretty good book. ..........A backing of many TRUE BELIEVERS with unlimited funds. ..................A completely amateur random execution and instantly forgettable movie. |
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Posted: 9/4/2022 3:38:54 AM EDT
[#39]
And yet, I STILL have no interest in watching it.
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Posted: 9/4/2022 4:15:10 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I will probably watch it in due time - I watch tons of crap, probably will not be at the bottom of the heap. But I refuse to give them the credit of a view at this point. After WoT, I won't bother watching this unless, somehow, the viewer reviews see a huge about turn. Otherwise, I'd rather reread the books than subject myself to the aggravation of them bastardizing another established storyline, just to push their agendas. |
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Posted: 9/4/2022 5:03:55 AM EDT
[#41]
Watched it. Wife wasnt too pleased with how they are taking a lot of creative freedom from the source materiel.
Gurl power is obvious and annoying, but Galadriel played by Morfydd Clark is hot as fuck. Visual effects are 10/10. |
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Posted: 9/4/2022 6:23:26 AM EDT
[#42]
Watched the first 2 episodes. The most compelling character was that orc that came up through the floor. But that single mom killed him, so I probably won't watch the rest of it.
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Posted: 9/4/2022 6:31:16 AM EDT
[#43]
Amazon couldn’t secure the rights to The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales or any other books but LOTR and it shows.
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Posted: 9/4/2022 6:45:46 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Has nothing to do with there being black elves and dwarves or female leads. It's the fact they are changing existing storylines to fit them in and taking it to an extreme. Absolutely it does have to do with that. In fact as someone who read all the books and took a university level elective course on Tolkien it has so far had fuck-all to do with changing existing storylines. That argument might make sense for a future black James Bond. Your reasoning here sound an awful lot like - "I'm not a racist but..." A bunch of white human troglodytes with the exception of one attractive single mother? Looks like a good mate for the black elf! A bunch of male warriors on an elite mission? Watch as they all have their asses handed to them and are easily saved by the superstar woman leader! |
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Posted: 9/4/2022 7:11:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Absolutely it does have to do with that. In fact as someone who read all the books and took a university level elective course on Tolkien it has so far had fuck-all to do with changing existing storylines. That argument might make sense for a future black James Bond. Your reasoning here sound an awful lot like - "I'm not a racist but..." A bunch of white human troglodytes with the exception of one attractive single mother? Looks like a good mate for the black elf! A bunch of male warriors on an elite mission? Watch as they all have their asses handed to them and are easily saved by the superstar woman leader! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Has nothing to do with there being black elves and dwarves or female leads. It's the fact they are changing existing storylines to fit them in and taking it to an extreme. Absolutely it does have to do with that. In fact as someone who read all the books and took a university level elective course on Tolkien it has so far had fuck-all to do with changing existing storylines. That argument might make sense for a future black James Bond. Your reasoning here sound an awful lot like - "I'm not a racist but..." A bunch of white human troglodytes with the exception of one attractive single mother? Looks like a good mate for the black elf! A bunch of male warriors on an elite mission? Watch as they all have their asses handed to them and are easily saved by the superstar woman leader! Yeah but there are no black elves and women can’t fight. Why not just make a different story for black people and women with penis envy. |
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Posted: 9/4/2022 7:25:36 AM EDT
[#46]
Lemme put it like this; Street Fighter the movie was probably better acted and more respectful of the source material.
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Posted: 9/4/2022 7:47:23 AM EDT
[#47]
In the 70's I read The Hobbit, then a bit later I read The Lord of the Rings. Since then I've re-read them a few times because there is so much in them that I find something different in the story each time. The LOR movies came out and they were well done, they screwed up or outright re-wrote too much of the Hobbit movies to be truly enjoyable or even interesting, pissed me off. I won't even waste time watching this drivel.
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Posted: 9/4/2022 9:56:01 AM EDT
[#48]
Tubi is free and has a really good series about guns throughout history. I am up to WWI and Browning.
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Posted: 9/4/2022 10:45:04 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah but there are no black elves and women can't fight. Why not just make a different story for black people and women with penis envy. The Girrl Power trope can be done well- Ripley, Sarah Connor, Buffy-but it still requires talent and skill. Putting your Agenda first and expecting everyone to praise the Emperor's new clothes just never works. Replace all the leads in this dreck with white male actors...and it's still dreck. Bridgerton took a similar approach to retconning race in a popular book series set in Regency era England. But their approach-simply recasting race with talented actors and presenting it as what simply is -works beautifully. But it respects its source material, has storytelling, direction, and talent. Rings of Power doesn't. |
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Posted: 9/4/2022 11:21:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the writing, direction and acting were good then it would matter only to book purists and actual racists/misogynists. The Girrl Power trope can be done well- Ripley, Sarah Connor, Buffy-but it still requires talent and skill. Putting your Agenda first and expecting everyone to praise the Emperor's new clothes just never works. Replace all the leads in this dreck with white male actors...and it's still dreck. Bridgerton took a similar approach to retconning race in a popular book series set in Regency era England. But their approach-simply recasting race with talented actors and presenting it as what simply is -works beautifully. But it respects its source material, has storytelling, direction, and talent. Rings of Power doesn't. LOL - Bridgerton is hot garbage. Are you a Russian disinformation troll that stole a famous account?
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