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Posted: 9/9/2017 12:57:51 PM EST
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Only mad at all the winning we were promised that isn't happening. Trump ran against the GOP, and it looks more and more like that was the right thing to do. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 1:11:23 PM EST
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Here is a little hint for the folks that can't seem to grasp the whole 18 months thing.
MIDTERM FUCKING ELECTIONS! Discuss...or not. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 1:16:18 PM EST
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He lives where all that glitters is made of gold Johnny. NSA Spying, Politically motivated murders, Election outcomes.. They are all mysteries there. Like the Prince in the Time Of the ole Greeks.   Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ask yourselves this.... Knowing that the Democrats (Schumer and Pelosi) never met a debt ceiling increase that they didn't like... And knowing that they are now even negotiating with the President to eliminate the ceilings completely... ...WHY would they see it to their advantage to ask for only a three month extension of the debt ceiling? Socrates is embarrassed FOR you. 18 months was on the table, and they asked for just three. You might not know the answer, but you should at LEAST recognize that the question should be asked. Serious question. NSA Spying, Politically motivated murders, Election outcomes.. They are all mysteries there. Like the Prince in the Time Of the ole Greeks. I shudder to think how hard my Pro Trump bias would be to kick if Trump started screwing up.
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Ask yourselves this.... Knowing that the Democrats (Schumer and Pelosi) never met a debt ceiling increase that they didn't like... And knowing that they are now even negotiating with the President to eliminate the ceilings completely... ...WHY would they see it to their advantage to ask for only a three month extension of the debt ceiling? Socrates is embarrassed FOR you. 18 months was on the table, and they asked for just three. You might not know the answer, but you should at LEAST recognize that the question should be asked. Serious question. You have to realize that in hindsight most every able minded, non biased person recognizes the election results were very predictable. Even the Hildabeast acknowledged the results were predictable. So if person was blindsided by that outcome it might be a time for introspection. Quoted:
This would be a good thread to revisit in December to see what additional concessions the D's can extract from Trump. Although I'm not sure "extract" is the right word. That sort of implies effort on the part of the Democrats... All the hurricanes must have blown the murkiness out of Bullet Spo's busted crystal ball. Hang on because now he will actually begin to make his accurate predictions.
Next thing we know he will claim to have fixed his busted FISA book. At least he has come to grips with the fact Trump is not going to be impeached, so there's that. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 1:26:53 PM EST
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And the RINOCRATS failure to do anything is Trump's fault? Trump ran against the GOP, and it looks more and more like that was the right thing to do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only mad at all the winning we were promised that isn't happening. Trump ran against the GOP, and it looks more and more like that was the right thing to do. As has been posted several times in the thread, he has done nothing or next to nothing to leverage the GOPe, despite claims to the contrary with nothing so far to back it up. Trump could be publicly calling them out by name on Twitter and the press and, behind closed doors threatening to publicly support primary opponents, just to name a very few things. But, so far, that only seems to be reserved for Conservatives. 
In Trump's mind though, it apparently makes more sense to jump in bed with the hard core left. 
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Posted: 9/9/2017 1:29:01 PM EST
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Not sure why anyone takes this kanuk serious. He's proven he is NOT A MAN of his WORD and therefore can't be trusted. He must have an inferiority complex because he is forced to sit at the children's table of world politics. The only thing he can do is try to belittle those at the adult table. BTW are you still unemployed little target? Quote HistoryQuoted:
He's proven he is NOT A MAN of his WORD and therefore can't be trusted. He must have an inferiority complex because he is forced to sit at the children's table of world politics. The only thing he can do is try to belittle those at the adult table. BTW are you still unemployed little target? |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 2:14:11 PM EST
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On a side note, Donald Jr. did not think his dad would win (so he told the person standing next to him on Election Night). Bannon told Trump he had an absolute 100% change of winning |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 2:21:33 PM EST
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Thucydides says that perceptive people can figure out the Democrats' motivation for making the Republicans vote to raise the debt limit as often as possible. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But don't the Democrats proudly and loudly call for raising the debt ceiling? Why would they only want three months, as opposed to 18? |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 2:26:19 PM EST
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You can disagree but don't get personal. Not cool. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's proven he is NOT A MAN of his WORD and therefore can't be trusted. He must have an inferiority complex because he is forced to sit at the children's table of world politics. The only thing he can do is try to belittle those at the adult table. BTW are you still unemployed little target? There are plenty of people who disagree with Trump who are willing to discuss their differences. Then there are those who post to stir the pot. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 2:26:23 PM EST
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Trump ran against the GOP, and it looks more and more like that was the right thing to do. 
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Posted: 9/9/2017 2:28:56 PM EST
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On a side note, Donald Jr. did not think his dad would win (so he told the person standing next to him on Election Night). Bannon told Trump he had an absolute 100% change of winning |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 2:31:20 PM EST
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...and he fired him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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On a side note, Donald Jr. did not think his dad would win (so he told the person standing next to him on Election Night). Bannon told Trump he had an absolute 100% change of winning |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 2:50:00 PM EST
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So I'm confused.
People love Trump because he is going to destroy the RINOs. Yet he does the exact same thing that made people hate RINOs, like John McCain, in the first place. How is giving the democrats everything they want not the definition of a RINO? Why is it bad when everyone else does it, but super awesome when Trump does it? It's obvious to see why the democrats like short term debt limits. They get concessions each time. Pretty sure in December they will be willing to extend it again for three months as long as none of the money can be used for a border wall, and Trump agrees not to deport any dreamers. They can string this out for his entire administration and ensure nothing he promised will ever get done. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 2:52:15 PM EST
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So I'm confused. People love Trump because he is going to destroy the RINOs. Yet he does the exact same thing that made people hate RINOs, like John McCain, in the first place. How is giving the democrats everything they want not the definition of a RINO? Why is it bad when everyone else does it, but super awesome when Trump does it? It's obvious to see why the democrats like short term debt limits. They get concessions each time. Pretty sure in December they will be willing to extend it again for three months as long as none of the money can be used for a border wall, and Trump agrees not to deport any dreamers. They can string this out for his entire administration and ensure nothing he promised will ever get done. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 2:54:32 PM EST
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In that equation, which one is Trump? Thucydides knew that the phenomena transcends the current administration. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 2:56:29 PM EST
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How can the dems have a say in any of what you posted? They don't have control of either house? |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 2:56:29 PM EST
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So I'm confused. People love Trump because he is going to destroy the RINOs. Yet he does the exact same thing that made people hate RINOs, like John McCain, in the first place. How is giving the democrats everything they want not the definition of a RINO? Why is it bad when everyone else does it, but super awesome when Trump does it? It's obvious to see why the democrats like short term debt limits. They get concessions each time. Pretty sure in December they will be willing to extend it again for three months as long as none of the money can be used for a border wall, and Trump agrees not to deport any dreamers. They can string this out for his entire administration and ensure nothing he promised will ever get done. The deal Paul Ryan wanted provided nothing for The Wall either,and with the 18-month time frame word have locked out The Wall funding til 2019. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 2:56:38 PM EST
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So I'm confused. People love Trump because he is going to destroy the RINOs. Yet he does the exact same thing that made people hate RINOs, like John McCain, in the first place. How is giving the democrats everything they want not the definition of a RINO? Why is it bad when everyone else does it, but super awesome when Trump does it? It's obvious to see why the democrats like short term debt limits. They get concessions each time. Pretty sure in December they will be willing to extend it again for three months as long as none of the money can be used for a border wall, and Trump agrees not to deport any dreamers. They can string this out for his entire administration and ensure nothing he promised will ever get done. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 2:58:07 PM EST
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They have control of the Executive Branch. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 2:59:13 PM EST
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LoL....delusional. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 9/9/2017 2:59:55 PM EST
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If they get concessions, the republicans will have to answer for it in the midterms. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 3:00:46 PM EST
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Posted: 9/9/2017 3:01:32 PM EST
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So I'm confused. People love Trump because he is going to destroy the RINOs. Yet he does the exact same thing that made people hate RINOs, like John McCain, in the first place. How is giving the democrats everything they want not the definition of a RINO? Why is it bad when everyone else does it, but super awesome when Trump does it? It's obvious to see why the democrats like short term debt limits. They get concessions each time. Pretty sure in December they will be willing to extend it again for three months as long as none of the money can be used for a border wall, and Trump agrees not to deport any dreamers. They can string this out for his entire administration and ensure nothing he promised will ever get done. Why is Trump (Head of the Republican Party) going along with them? |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 3:03:58 PM EST
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Ingenious strategy for a Democrat Why is Trump (Head of the Republican Party) going along with them? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I'm confused. People love Trump because he is going to destroy the RINOs. Yet he does the exact same thing that made people hate RINOs, like John McCain, in the first place. How is giving the democrats everything they want not the definition of a RINO? Why is it bad when everyone else does it, but super awesome when Trump does it? It's obvious to see why the democrats like short term debt limits. They get concessions each time. Pretty sure in December they will be willing to extend it again for three months as long as none of the money can be used for a border wall, and Trump agrees not to deport any dreamers. They can string this out for his entire administration and ensure nothing he promised will ever get done. Why is Trump (Head of the Republican Party) going along with them? |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 3:13:21 PM EST
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None one so blind as ones who refuse to read. You're sadness for the failure or the RINO blank check says much. Trump/PelosiScumer's plan is working perfectly: Destroy the GOP (all who don't suck the Trump kuk are GOPe (we get it)) Push the Liberal/Democrat agenda If only someone could have predicted this
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Posted: 9/9/2017 3:28:01 PM EST
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He's a troll who promised to not post in any more Trump threads. He continues his blatant anti Trump trolling. There are plenty of people who disagree with Trump who are willing to discuss their differences. Then there are those who post to stir the pot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's proven he is NOT A MAN of his WORD and therefore can't be trusted. He must have an inferiority complex because he is forced to sit at the children's table of world politics. The only thing he can do is try to belittle those at the adult table. BTW are you still unemployed little target? There are plenty of people who disagree with Trump who are willing to discuss their differences. Then there are those who post to stir the pot. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 3:38:51 PM EST
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The employment comment was dirty pool and has no place here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's proven he is NOT A MAN of his WORD and therefore can't be trusted. He must have an inferiority complex because he is forced to sit at the children's table of world politics. The only thing he can do is try to belittle those at the adult table. BTW are you still unemployed little target? There are plenty of people who disagree with Trump who are willing to discuss their differences. Then there are those who post to stir the pot. They cannot/will not defend Trump's actions so they attack the poster who questions him It has been their strategy for over a year |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 3:43:38 PM EST
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They know They cannot/will not defend Trump's actions so they attack the poster who questions him It has been their strategy for over a year Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's proven he is NOT A MAN of his WORD and therefore can't be trusted. He must have an inferiority complex because he is forced to sit at the children's table of world politics. The only thing he can do is try to belittle those at the adult table. BTW are you still unemployed little target? There are plenty of people who disagree with Trump who are willing to discuss their differences. Then there are those who post to stir the pot. They cannot/will not defend Trump's actions so they attack the poster who questions him It has been their strategy for over a year |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 3:47:28 PM EST
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He's a troll who promised to not post in any more Trump threads. He continues his blatant anti Trump trolling. There are plenty of people who disagree with Trump who are willing to discuss their differences. Then there are those who post to stir the pot. You shouldn't let that happen in the future. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 3:48:54 PM EST
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Some people only post to stir the pot with no intention of factually discussing the issues. You know who they are. What has their strategy been for the last year? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's proven he is NOT A MAN of his WORD and therefore can't be trusted. He must have an inferiority complex because he is forced to sit at the children's table of world politics. The only thing he can do is try to belittle those at the adult table. BTW are you still unemployed little target? There are plenty of people who disagree with Trump who are willing to discuss their differences. Then there are those who post to stir the pot. They cannot/will not defend Trump's actions so they attack the poster who questions him It has been their strategy for over a year 
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Posted: 9/9/2017 3:54:29 PM EST
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They know They cannot/will not defend Trump's actions so they attack the poster who questions him It has been their strategy for over a year Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's proven he is NOT A MAN of his WORD and therefore can't be trusted. He must have an inferiority complex because he is forced to sit at the children's table of world politics. The only thing he can do is try to belittle those at the adult table. BTW are you still unemployed little target? There are plenty of people who disagree with Trump who are willing to discuss their differences. Then there are those who post to stir the pot. They cannot/will not defend Trump's actions so they attack the poster who questions him It has been their strategy for over a year |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 3:58:03 PM EST
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They have control of the Executive Branch. BTW, here are the first USSC picks by prior "Republican" presidents: "Obamacare" Roberts (Bush II) Souter (Bush I) O'Connor (Reagan) Stevens (Ford) Burger (Nixon) Warren (Eisenhower) I see three leftists and three moderates on that list. If the "democrats control the Executive branch" is indeed the case, maybe that isn't a bad thing given some of the people Republicans have appointed to the court. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 4:02:14 PM EST
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Ingenious strategy for a Democrat Why is Trump (Head of the Republican Party) going along with them? He can now use his leverage to obtain some of the stuff he wants in December. As part of that leverage, he can even force a gov't shutdown and expose RINOs who have primaries early next year. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 4:07:30 PM EST
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This deal has given the democrats leverage to hinder or halt Tax Cuts...MAGA! This deal has given them leverage to push for Amnesty...MAGA! Having a big political fight in the midst of two hurricanes, and problems with North Korea isn't a good idea, so Trump delayed this three months. Also, the Republicans in the House have started pushing budgets through the process, and are getting away from the decade-old continuing resolutions. This will give Trump even more leverage as he can sign/veto a dozen or so individual budgets instead of a single CR. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 4:08:55 PM EST
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Leverage. To extend the debt ceiling, Congress needs Trump, so he has leverage. Kicking the can down the road 18 months causes him to surrender that leverage to Ryan/McConnell. He can now use his leverage to obtain some of the stuff he wants in December. As part of that leverage, he can even force a gov't shutdown and expose RINOs who have primaries early next year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ingenious strategy for a Democrat Why is Trump (Head of the Republican Party) going along with them? He can now use his leverage to obtain some of the stuff he wants in December. As part of that leverage, he can even force a gov't shutdown and expose RINOs who have primaries early next year. Oh whale
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Posted: 9/9/2017 6:16:30 PM EST
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Trading amnesty for potential "wall" funding does not sound like MAGA to me Oh whale Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ingenious strategy for a Democrat Why is Trump (Head of the Republican Party) going along with them? He can now use his leverage to obtain some of the stuff he wants in December. As part of that leverage, he can even force a gov't shutdown and expose RINOs who have primaries early next year. Oh whale |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 6:37:18 PM EST
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Trading amnesty for potential "wall" funding does not sound like MAGA to me Oh whale Remember that they couldn't get amnesty passed even when Obama was president and had much stronger representation in Congress. The American people don't want amnesty and this is one issue that led to Trump winning. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 6:37:57 PM EST
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I maintain faith in Trump.
He got something for this compromise, whereas the Mccain's, Grahams, etc would have just given over everything. 
I maintain that Trump will be the best thing to happen to this country since the invention of hot showers, warm blankets, and chocolate chip cookies.
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Posted: 9/9/2017 6:46:52 PM EST
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We will see what happens. Trump is following through on his promises, and I don't think he is going to screw us on amnesty. Remember that they couldn't get amnesty passed even when Obama was president and had much stronger representation in Congress. The American people don't want amnesty and this is one issue that led to Trump winning. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trading amnesty for potential "wall" funding does not sound like MAGA to me Oh whale Remember that they couldn't get amnesty passed even when Obama was president and had much stronger representation in Congress. The American people don't want amnesty and this is one issue that led to Trump winning. I just wanted to thank you for your honest straight forward debate We may not agree but you discuss the issues 
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Posted: 9/9/2017 6:48:58 PM EST
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What do you care I do not think you even voted for the man? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ingenious strategy for a Democrat Why is Trump (Head of the Republican Party) going along with them? He can now use his leverage to obtain some of the stuff he wants in December. As part of that leverage, he can even force a gov't shutdown and expose RINOs who have primaries early next year. Oh whale Do you? |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 7:39:26 PM EST
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Give it a rest. Look no further than the appointment of Neil Gorsuch to the USSC. That was Trump's first pick, and his second will likely by just as good, if not better. BTW, here are the first USSC picks by prior "Republican" presidents: "Obamacare" Roberts (Bush II) Souter (Bush I) O'Connor (Reagan) Stevens (Ford) Burger (Nixon) Warren (Eisenhower) I see three leftists and three moderates on that list. If the "democrats control the Executive branch" is indeed the case, maybe that isn't a bad thing given some of the people Republicans have appointed to the court. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They have control of the Executive Branch. BTW, here are the first USSC picks by prior "Republican" presidents: "Obamacare" Roberts (Bush II) Souter (Bush I) O'Connor (Reagan) Stevens (Ford) Burger (Nixon) Warren (Eisenhower) I see three leftists and three moderates on that list. If the "democrats control the Executive branch" is indeed the case, maybe that isn't a bad thing given some of the people Republicans have appointed to the court. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 7:43:08 PM EST
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I maintain faith in Trump. He got something for this compromise, whereas the Mccain's, Grahams, etc would have just given over everything.
I maintain that Trump will be the best thing to happen to this country since the invention of hot showers, warm blankets, and chocolate chip cookies. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 7:46:56 PM EST
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Ingenious strategy for a Democrat Why is Trump (Head of the Republican Party) going along with them? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I'm confused. People love Trump because he is going to destroy the RINOs. Yet he does the exact same thing that made people hate RINOs, like John McCain, in the first place. How is giving the democrats everything they want not the definition of a RINO? Why is it bad when everyone else does it, but super awesome when Trump does it? It's obvious to see why the democrats like short term debt limits. They get concessions each time. Pretty sure in December they will be willing to extend it again for three months as long as none of the money can be used for a border wall, and Trump agrees not to deport any dreamers. They can string this out for his entire administration and ensure nothing he promised will ever get done. Why is Trump (Head of the Republican Party) going along with them? |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 7:52:56 PM EST
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So I'm confused. People love Trump because he is going to destroy the RINOs. Yet he does the exact same thing that made people hate RINOs, like John McCain, in the first place. How is giving the democrats everything they want not the definition of a RINO? Why is it bad when everyone else does it, but super awesome when Trump does it? It's obvious to see why the democrats like short term debt limits. They get concessions each time. Pretty sure in December they will be willing to extend it again for three months as long as none of the money can be used for a border wall, and Trump agrees not to deport any dreamers. They can string this out for his entire administration and ensure nothing he promised will ever get done. Why is Trump (Head of the Republican Party) going along with them? |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 7:53:41 PM EST
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Because the Republicans have fucked him over multiple times now so he is showing that he will work with democrats if they don't start getting their shit together? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I'm confused. People love Trump because he is going to destroy the RINOs. Yet he does the exact same thing that made people hate RINOs, like John McCain, in the first place. How is giving the democrats everything they want not the definition of a RINO? Why is it bad when everyone else does it, but super awesome when Trump does it? It's obvious to see why the democrats like short term debt limits. They get concessions each time. Pretty sure in December they will be willing to extend it again for three months as long as none of the money can be used for a border wall, and Trump agrees not to deport any dreamers. They can string this out for his entire administration and ensure nothing he promised will ever get done. Why is Trump (Head of the Republican Party) going along with them? What legislation beneficial to America is any Democrat of any stripe going to author and/or sign on to? ETA: The leap to this extreme of a "solution", when there are any number of other arguably better ones readily available to Trump, reminds me of the Bear Grylls memes... ETA2: Better pic!
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Posted: 9/9/2017 8:17:49 PM EST
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BRACKINGGG!@!@@!!!1111!! It was intentional Francis. There are always 87 BREAKING the world is ending threads on page 1. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 8:24:37 PM EST
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BRACKINGGG!@!@@!!!1111!! It was intentional Francis. There are always 87 BREAKING the world is ending threads on page 1. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 8:29:21 PM EST
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We will see what happens. Trump is following through on his promises, and I don't think he is going to screw us on amnesty. Remember that they couldn't get amnesty passed even when Obama was president and had much stronger representation in Congress. The American people don't want amnesty and this is one issue that led to Trump winning. 
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/13/trump-wants-comprehensive-immigration-plan/ 
ETA: How did you guys not hear about this? He has ALREADY screwed you.
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Posted: 9/9/2017 8:55:38 PM EST
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/13/trump-wants-comprehensive-immigration-plan/ http://i.imgur.com/mWQCobL.jpg ETA: How did you guys not hear about this? He has ALREADY screwed you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We will see what happens. Trump is following through on his promises, and I don't think he is going to screw us on amnesty. Remember that they couldn't get amnesty passed even when Obama was president and had much stronger representation in Congress. The American people don't want amnesty and this is one issue that led to Trump winning.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/13/trump-wants-comprehensive-immigration-plan/ http://i.imgur.com/mWQCobL.jpg ETA: How did you guys not hear about this? He has ALREADY screwed you. Eyes shut? 
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Posted: 9/9/2017 9:05:10 PM EST
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/13/trump-wants-comprehensive-immigration-plan/ http://i.imgur.com/mWQCobL.jpg ETA: How did you guys not hear about this? He has ALREADY screwed you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We will see what happens. Trump is following through on his promises, and I don't think he is going to screw us on amnesty. Remember that they couldn't get amnesty passed even when Obama was president and had much stronger representation in Congress. The American people don't want amnesty and this is one issue that led to Trump winning.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/13/trump-wants-comprehensive-immigration-plan/ http://i.imgur.com/mWQCobL.jpg ETA: How did you guys not hear about this? He has ALREADY screwed you. He didn't specify what he meant did he? So are you projecting your own bias? |
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Eyes open? Saw it coming Eyes shut? http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/1b/1bd653ca7760b8bb57c60797e773b15b4c6a92ea476e60e91e2e1e264cd5d43f.jpg Edit that was supposed to be in response to TT. Opps, just pretend your Canadian for a min. |
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