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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:45:59 PM EST
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Here you go TS and for the other slow Never Trumpers and Dems. Paul Ryan and the swamp GOPe, wants to authorize the Debt Ceiling for 18 months and until after the 2018 November elections. Gee why is that? Because Ryan and the rest GrOPe do not want to do as real budget and/or tax cuts. They want to screw the country and Trump. They want to keep the status quo by spending and spending and more spending without no consequences and making the nation go further into debt. Instead Trump got a deal that gets those DC Moron Swampers to reauthorize the debt ceiling for only 90 days. Ryan can do a budget that he and CONgress has shirked instead of unlimited spending. In 90 days it's going to be where's the budget Ryan? So who is the real conservative? It's not the Republican Congress who act like weak azz Democrats. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who could have predicted this?  Paul Ryan and the swamp GOPe, wants to authorize the Debt Ceiling for 18 months and until after the 2018 November elections. Gee why is that? Because Ryan and the rest GrOPe do not want to do as real budget and/or tax cuts. They want to screw the country and Trump. They want to keep the status quo by spending and spending and more spending without no consequences and making the nation go further into debt. Instead Trump got a deal that gets those DC Moron Swampers to reauthorize the debt ceiling for only 90 days. Ryan can do a budget that he and CONgress has shirked instead of unlimited spending. In 90 days it's going to be where's the budget Ryan? So who is the real conservative? It's not the Republican Congress who act like weak azz Democrats. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:46:21 PM EST
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Well, if can you get that absolute idiot McCain to act honesty and vote right do tell. We are all ears. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:50:10 PM EST
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maybe if he ain't re-elected in the first place...but people enjoy electing RINO's..so they can bitch about it later. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:50:16 PM EST
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maybe if he ain't re-elected in the first place...but people enjoy electing RINO's..so they can bitch about it later.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:50:31 PM EST
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Well, if can you get that absolute idiot McCain to act honesty and vote right do tell. We are all ears. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reagan had to work with the Democrats because Dems controlled the House 244 to 191. Trump has to work with Dems because he doesn't seem to be as alpha as we were led to believe. I don't want to Trump (or any other president) to cooperate with Dems OR GOPe. I'd rather nothing be done. Not a hard concept. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:53:33 PM EST
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this is pretty simple I don't want to Trump (or any other president) to cooperate with Dems OR GOPe. I'd rather nothing be done. Not a hard concept. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:53:39 PM EST
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LOL....He throws the Dems a small bone to put the GOPe on notice to get something done and the #nevertrump/GOPe crowd has kittens.....What a fucking bunch of vapid tools.
I did not help elect a "conservative" (whatever the fuck that is these days), I helped elect a right of center populist that does not mind breaking it off in the GOPe's ass if that is what it takes....And guess what, that is what it will take and I suspect it will happen a few more times before they see the light. Remember, Trump is under no real obligation to "dance with who done brung him" because most of the GOP tools that hold positions of power within the party worked against him and continue to do so. If the GOP loses either the House or Senate they have shit-all to blame it on but themselves. They have been put on notice and it's deliver or else. Where else are we going to go they might say....Well I might go hunting all day on election day if they soon don't get their shit together. I'm under no obligation to work with the GOP either. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:54:22 PM EST
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What 1 thing? What will dems sign off on? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It doesn't surprise me that Trump is working with Democrats. He knows them all and the GOPe wants to fuck everything up and are not conservatives at all. I just don't know yet how Trump is going to tie everything together and get his policies through. Maybe Trump thinks like this, if he tries to get the GOPe to help push stuff through, he will fail 10 out of 10. But with the Dems, maybe he can get 1 thing passed. What will dems sign off on? If the democrats sold it as they were cutting taxes for the working man....I.E. a little more from the earned income credit, make the tax brackets wider based off of income and then let FICA income limit go higher maybe throw the income/asset limits on the FAFSA out the door and that's a sealed deal for the Dems. For the Dems, you keep the low income vote, you also keep your pro rata share of high earners, and then you get more middle america votes. Work some english on the FAFSA income/asset rules and you start to get the meat and potatoes of what would be Republicans in the 75-200k income bracket. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:54:38 PM EST
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What 1 thing? What will dems sign off on? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It doesn't surprise me that Trump is working with Democrats. He knows them all and the GOPe wants to fuck everything up and are not conservatives at all. I just don't know yet how Trump is going to tie everything together and get his policies through. Maybe Trump thinks like this, if he tries to get the GOPe to help push stuff through, he will fail 10 out of 10. But with the Dems, maybe he can get 1 thing passed. What will dems sign off on? |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:55:37 PM EST
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So crickets crickets here Never Trumpers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who could have predicted this? Paul Ryan and the swamp GOPe, wants to authorize the Debt Ceiling for 18 months and until after the 2018 November elections. Gee why is that? Because Ryan and the rest GrOPe do not want to do as real budget and/or tax cuts. They want to screw the country and Trump. They want to keep the status quo by spending and spending and more spending without no consequences and making the nation go further into debt. Instead Trump got a deal that gets those DC Moron Swampers to reauthorize the debt ceiling for only 90 days. Ryan can do a budget that he and CONgress has shirked instead of unlimited spending. In 90 days it's going to be where's the budget Ryan? So who is the real conservative? It's not the Republican Congress who act like weak azz Democrats. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:56:21 PM EST
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this is pretty simple I don't want to Trump (or any other president) to cooperate with Dems OR GOPe. I'd rather nothing be done. Not a hard concept. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reagan had to work with the Democrats because Dems controlled the House 244 to 191. Trump has to work with Dems because he doesn't seem to be as alpha as we were led to believe. I don't want to Trump (or any other president) to cooperate with Dems OR GOPe. I'd rather nothing be done. Not a hard concept. Now hush up as the players are #MAGA. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:56:52 PM EST
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This is what happens when you run out of patience and you are tired of the BS. Ryan, McConnell, Graham and Mcshitstain McCain day in and day out attacking Trump every time he does what he said he would do. Yet, while they attack Trump for everything he does, they do absolutely nothing in congress. So, this would happen with any president after 8 months of investigations, bad press and relentless attacks from your own "party". They aim to destroy Trump and he aims to destroy them. This won't get any better unless the GOPe dies. Trump did well here, I can't wait to help primary his enemies in 2018. I aim to save my money and donate the max in money and time... |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:57:18 PM EST
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Like you pos governor. How do like dreamers being personally invited? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/332415/download__4_-300931.JPG 
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:58:42 PM EST
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Duly Noted. Now hush up as the players are #MAGA. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reagan had to work with the Democrats because Dems controlled the House 244 to 191. Trump has to work with Dems because he doesn't seem to be as alpha as we were led to believe. I don't want to Trump (or any other president) to cooperate with Dems OR GOPe. I'd rather nothing be done. Not a hard concept. Now hush up as the players are #MAGA. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:58:54 PM EST
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this is pretty simple I don't want to Trump (or any other president) to cooperate with Dems OR GOPe. I'd rather nothing be done. Not a hard concept. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:59:03 PM EST
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Agreed. Trump did well here, I can't wait to help primary his enemies in 2018. I aim to save my money and donate the max in money and time... |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:02:11 PM EST
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Who can you Primary? |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:02:28 PM EST
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Like you pos governor. How do like dreamers being personally invited? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/332415/download__4_-300931.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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maybe if he ain't re-elected in the first place...but people enjoy electing RINO's..so they can bitch about it later. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/332415/download__4_-300931.JPG |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:04:48 PM EST
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Speaking of primaries it looks like in Arizona Jeff Flake is a goner, and in Alabama, Moore is way ahead of Strange.
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:05:48 PM EST
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That's about the whole problem isn't it? They are the ones in control of CONgress is the GOPe who act like Dems. Problem solved so Trump doesn't deal with the CONs in anyway. No budget, no tax cut deal, no wall, and no nothing good but cronyism. No, total isolation from Cong isn't going to work either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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this is pretty simple I don't want to Trump (or any other president) to cooperate with Dems OR GOPe. I'd rather nothing be done. Not a hard concept. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:06:38 PM EST
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Make DACA the law of the land!
Partner with Schumer and Pelosi to increase the debt! THAT will show those "RINOS"! |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:07:24 PM EST
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Speaking of primaries it looks like in Arizona Jeff Flake is a goner, and in Alabama, Moore is way ahead of Strange. 
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:08:09 PM EST
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Reagan had to work with the Democrats because Dems controlled the House 244 to 191. Trump has to work with Dems because he doesn't seem to be as alpha as we were led to believe. I don't want to Trump (or any other president) to cooperate with Dems OR GOPe. I'd rather nothing be done. Not a hard concept. Now hush up as the players are #MAGA.
Wait more and post goofy stuff less. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:08:59 PM EST
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Didn't Trump just say stay FOREVER? He will get the DACA bill on his desk, and HE WILL sign it. Maybe he will get as good a deal as he just got from Nancy. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:09:09 PM EST
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it might be a problem for deal-maker big ego Trump but it is most certainly not a problem for this country |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:09:12 PM EST
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Six months ago this would have pissed me off, but FUCK THE REPUBLICANS
after six months doing JACK SHIT, Trump can deal with who he wants.suck the Republicans, they are not on our side |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:09:39 PM EST
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Now your getting a clue.
Wait more and post goofy stuff less. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reagan had to work with the Democrats because Dems controlled the House 244 to 191. Trump has to work with Dems because he doesn't seem to be as alpha as we were led to believe. I don't want to Trump (or any other president) to cooperate with Dems OR GOPe. I'd rather nothing be done. Not a hard concept. Now hush up as the players are #MAGA.
Wait more and post goofy stuff less. Maybe you should listen more. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:09:59 PM EST
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I've accepted it. This election gave us a Supreme Court spot. If Ginsberg would hurry up and keel, we could get one more. The rest is all bullshit. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:10:48 PM EST
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He never said anything about signing a DACA deal that I remember. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Didn't Trump just say stay FOREVER? He will get the DACA bill on his desk, and HE WILL sign it. Maybe he will get as good a deal as he just got from Nancy. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:11:55 PM EST
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Quick edit. 
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:12:32 PM EST
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Brilliant move on Trump's part. This bill was going to pas no matter what. But the republicans have been undercutting him since he got elected. Now he has sent them a message. "If you continue to undercut me. I will get things done no matter who I have to work with." They vote the wrong way and they might get primaried. Fucking genius! |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:12:53 PM EST
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He demanded that congress "legalize DACA." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Didn't Trump just say stay FOREVER? He will get the DACA bill on his desk, and HE WILL sign it. Maybe he will get as good a deal as he just got from Nancy. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:14:26 PM EST
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Make DACA the law of the land! Partner with Schumer and Pelosi to increase the debt! THAT will show those "RINOS"! 
Atleast Schumer is honest about what side he stands on unlike you and the rest of your ilk here and in Congress 
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:16:36 PM EST
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Who can you Primary? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Agreed. Trump did well here, I can't wait to help primary his enemies in 2018. I aim to save my money and donate the max in money and time... |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:16:49 PM EST
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He demanded that congress "legalize DACA." What I am saying is that I think the abstract escapes you and that is why politics especially is hard for you. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:17:28 PM EST
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Trump stays he will let the government shut down if the wall isn't funded. Hurricane happens. Trump makes a deal with democrats to increase spending, keep government open, and create a "new crisis" in December. Trump also doesn't want to end DACA, rather he wants it to be codified in law. Rather than ending it today, he puts a 6 month time stamp on it. He is hoping Republicans create DACA the right way in that time. What we are supposed to believe here, is that the Republicans will pass DACA with other policies that "we" want. What will probably happen? Nothing. DACA doesn't get repealed. Nothing happens in legislation. Spending goes up and people will blame Republicans. "We" will blame Republicans and not assign any blame to Trump or Democrats. This is actually a really impressive strategy by the left and the media. They have effectively crushed any kind of legislative push from the right and are still able to push through some of their policy while being only a minority within the federal government. Let's say I'm wrong and DACA legislation gets passed. Democrats still win. A wall can't be finished in 2 years and tax reform would be spread out over a decade. Long enough to get reversed. Oh...and your insurance premiums keep going up. To find blame with anyone but the republican leadership coming from Ryan and the turtle is delusional, you have the derangement syndrome. Now tell me how you really feel about Gorsuch, the EPA getting put in it's place, our pipelines, NATO, DHS going after illegals, illegal immigration down 78%, Paris accord, and the TTP because Trump did all that on his own. You never Trump "conservatives" are a joke and you have zero credibility. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:18:22 PM EST
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I am actually a little sorry that I smacked you around in my previous post because I am starting to think that maybe you mean well but just don't have the mental ability to understand things in a manner that isn't 100% literal and concrete. What I am saying is that I think the abstract escapes you and that is why politics especially is hard for you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He demanded that congress "legalize DACA." What I am saying is that I think the abstract escapes you and that is why politics especially is hard for you. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:20:42 PM EST
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Why are you trying to confuse Trump worshippers with the facts? |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:21:45 PM EST
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In the short term it looks like a loss, but down the road it pay big dividends like everything else. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who could have predicted this? Paul Ryan and the swamp GOPe, wants to authorize the Debt Ceiling for 18 months and until after the 2018 November elections. Gee why is that? Because Ryan and the rest GrOPe do not want to do as real budget and/or tax cuts. They want to screw the country and Trump. They want to keep the status quo by spending and spending and more spending without no consequences and making the nation go further into debt. Instead Trump got a deal that gets those DC Moron Swampers to reauthorize the debt ceiling for only 90 days. Ryan can do a budget that he and CONgress has shirked instead of unlimited spending. In 90 days it's going to be where's the budget Ryan? So who is the real conservative? It's not the Republican Congress who act like weak azz Democrats. Why did the Dems want the three month deal? Because in three months it will put them in a much stronger negotiating position. We just got fucked. Oh, and Daughter Democrat was also invited into the meeting to push her latest democrap. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:24:44 PM EST
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So what's the fucking move? What works out for us? What's the secret to having Ryan and Mcconnell not backstab us at every turn with real authentic conservatism? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why are you trying to confuse Trump worshippers with the facts? do nothing veto their shit, when and if they actually pass anything why must there be a "move?" |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:26:07 PM EST
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So giving the Dems the exact three month debt deal they wanted will pay big dividends. How so? Why did the Dems want the three month deal? Because in three months it will put them in a much stronger negotiating position. We just got fucked. Oh, and Daughter Democrat was also invited into the meeting to push her latest democrap. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:26:31 PM EST
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Cincy is actually laughing at you, you simpleton. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He demanded that congress "legalize DACA." What I am saying is that I think the abstract escapes you and that is why politics especially is hard for you. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:28:35 PM EST
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I would expect so; ignorance is bliss. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:30:25 PM EST
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You can't negotiate with congress right now unless you held every one of them at gun point. The GOPe and the democrats are in control. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:30:49 PM EST
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the secret is nothing do nothing veto their shit, when and if they actually pass anything why must there be a "move?" Sadly as we are watching the Republicans are continuing to execute their no movement 'status quo strategy' which has now given us Obamacare twice. Do you even realize that? The Republicans by their total lack of capability have given us Obamacare TWICE. Not just once but TWO FUCKING TIMES. 
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:32:39 PM EST
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The funniest part about this thread (apart from "braking") is that people seem to have completely forgotten Congress is controlled by the Republicans. The fact that Trump has to even talk to the Democrats about something as silly as a hurricane relief bill shows how fucked up all those "Real Conservative" GOP are.
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:38:15 PM EST
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He never said anything about signing a DACA deal that I remember. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Didn't Trump just say stay FOREVER? He will get the DACA bill on his desk, and HE WILL sign it. Maybe he will get as good a deal as he just got from Nancy. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:41:24 PM EST
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FUCK!! ( I am a HardCore Conservative so I have to work and LOVE Democrats now ) !!!?????????? FUCK YOU !!!!!! I say FUCK YOU again with a cactus!
The same dumocrats that said they will never work with Trump as long as he is President! Those same dumocrats? I guess according to the liberal ARFCOMer this is great to deal with than a GOPe'r do nothings? Damn this place has turned into a cesspool of liberal shit. Tell me how many Dems voted to repeal O'care. NOT ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!! But on here, we? have to work with them? What the Fuck!!!!!!! and Work with what? The same that want to Impeach him on every cough, sneeze, or eye blink! Or what he said 40 years ago? These are the ones he should work with? FUCK NO!!!!!! and <---------- DU is that way, go back there and play with the Dems all you want! 
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:41:24 PM EST
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Make DACA the law of the land! Partner with Schumer and Pelosi to increase the debt! THAT will show those "RINOS"! But I was well aware that he would do things like support DACA and expand our debt. You and "your ilk" seem to support such RINO stuff. Atleast Schumer is honest about what side he stands on unlike you and the rest of your ilk here and in Congress I guess that's your thing. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:41:59 PM EST
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the secret is nothing do nothing veto their shit, when and if they actually pass anything why must there be a "move?" |
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