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Link Posted: 12/21/2015 8:52:16 PM EST
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... she did let me play the Imperial Death March in the delivery room when our son was being born...





To be fair, she wasn't in much of a position to put up any resistance. And it did seem fitting that our boy would enter the world with appropriate musical accompaniment.

For the first year of his life, that track always calmed him down and made him smile. Now he demands Hank Williams Jr.'s "Country Boy Can Survive" as bedtime music. At least he already knows the answer to 9mm vs. 45 ACP.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 8:53:09 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/21/2015 8:55:45 PM EST
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If NPR had something to do with Luke's training, I suddenly understand why so many things went wrong in the original trilogy.

Poor kid was from a backwoods world and didn't know better than to listen to the liberal radio propaganda network?
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Your nerd cred is OFF THE CHARTS!
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 9:02:46 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/21/2015 9:12:22 PM EST
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Hmmmmmmmmmm
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 9:21:27 PM EST
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I'd have taken 450k to do that gig.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 9:22:11 PM EST
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Makes sense considering the 'silver' storm trooper if ya follow my drift
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Makes sense considering the 'silver' storm trooper if ya follow my drift


There was another one on the star killer base that spoke to one of the officers. .
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 9:23:02 PM EST
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I'd have taken 450k to do that gig.



Hell, you can do 50 years worth of comic-cons and live comfortably.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 9:24:54 PM EST
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Hell, you can do 50 years worth of comic-cons and live comfortably.
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Link Posted: 12/21/2015 9:42:39 PM EST
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Also in ESB.  They had an entire mind conversation.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 9:53:11 PM EST
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I think your last part is the correct answer.
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Link Posted: 12/21/2015 9:55:59 PM EST
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I caught myself putting my hand up in front of my face when one of the explosions threw dirt toward the audience.  




I think I only noticed one or two "for the 3D" effects.   One only because of how truly awesome it was.

Tickets for Wednesday Imax are laying in front of me
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It was even better watching it a second time.


Saw it on a normal screen...friend is telling me I have to go see it in 3D because it was really good.



I caught myself putting my hand up in front of my face when one of the explosions threw dirt toward the audience.  




I think I only noticed one or two "for the 3D" effects.   One only because of how truly awesome it was.

Tickets for Wednesday Imax are laying in front of me


This was the best 3d movie I've seen. I saw both Avengers in 3d and to be honest, it felt like the 3d distracted you from seeing details other then what was being shoved in your face in 3d. I didn't get that feeling at all with TFA.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 9:57:47 PM EST
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Saw it with the mancub.

It was fun and had the feel of the original trilogy.


Loved it
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 10:02:34 PM EST
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I just got back from seeing it....I approve.
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I'd have done it for free
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I'd have taken 450k to do that gig.

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Hell, I would have been a random Storm Trooper in a helmet in formation for free
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 10:26:22 PM EST
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I liked the Daniel Craig storm trooper bit.  
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Everyone knows Bond is weak minded.
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Hell, I would have been a random Storm Trooper in a helmet in formation for free


Same here.
 
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Everyone knows Bond is weak minded.


I've been avoiding most of the internet until seeing the movie today. I had no idea that was him when I watched it, but definitely thought the voice sounded familiar.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 11:02:11 PM EST
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After seeing the movie a second time, I'm calling it: Rey is Luke's daughter.

The signs other than her force sensitivity:

1. Maz saying to Rey "that was Luke Skywalker's light saber and his fathers before him. Now it calls to you."

2. Luke looked like he was standing over a grave marked by a stone that blended in very well with the other rocks. Probably a spouse or lover's grave.

Personally, I think Luke was getting it on with one of his students, had a kid, had to hide her, dropped her off on Jakku, then Kylo Ren massacred her and the rest of the Jedis in training. He blames himself for her death and Kylo Ren's fall to the dark side so he bails.
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That's my take. My brother-in-Law insists she has to be another of Han's.
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That's my take. My brother-in-Law insists she has to be another of Han's.
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That's my take. My brother-in-Law insists she has to be another of Han's.


Possible, but theres practically nothing that points to it. Wouldn't Han and Leia at least mention her when talking about their son? Why would they have her dumped on Jakku?
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Possible, but theres practically nothing that points to it. Wouldn't Han and Leia at least mention her when talking about their son? Why would they have her dumped on Jakku?
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That's my take. My brother-in-Law insists she has to be another of Han's.


Possible, but theres practically nothing that points to it. Wouldn't Han and Leia at least mention her when talking about their son? Why would they have her dumped on Jakku?


He keeps resorting to books and graphic novel references when we have this discussion.
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He keeps resorting to books and graphic novel references when we have this discussion.
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That's my take. My brother-in-Law insists she has to be another of Han's.


Possible, but theres practically nothing that points to it. Wouldn't Han and Leia at least mention her when talking about their son? Why would they have her dumped on Jakku?


He keeps resorting to books and graphic novel references when we have this discussion.


Discarded EU stuff or new stuff? If new material, what evidence is he supporting it with?
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After seeing the movie a second time, I'm calling it: Rey is Luke's daughter.

The signs other than her force sensitivity:

1. Maz saying to Rey "that was Luke Skywalker's light saber and his fathers before him. Now it calls to you."

2. Luke looked like he was standing over a grave marked by a stone that blended in very well with the other rocks. Probably a spouse or lover's grave.

Personally, I think Luke was getting it on with one of his students, had a kid, had to hide her, dropped her off on Jakku, then Kylo Ren massacred her and the rest of the Jedis in training. He blames himself for her death and Kylo Ren's fall to the dark side so he bails.
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That's what I came away with as well.
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I was actually pumped for this movie, bought tickets when they became aavailable, was giddy like  school girl when the title came up. Halfway through I realized this was a shitty movie dressed up as star wars. The acting was great, the writing and directing was shit. Jj Abrams was a terrible, unoriginal pick for director.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 11:43:20 PM EST
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Lots of entertaining reviews on IMDb.





Sad but true. When the opening credits filled the screen (Episode
VII... blah blah) I was already grinding my teeth because the plot
sounded idiotic. Then the huge star destroyer filled the screen. The
fun bit is that the star destroyer had some sort of antenna or whatever
at the front and it looked liked the ship was showing the middle finger
towards the viewers.



I have to congratulate the film makers as that was pretty much how the
film worked from that point forward.



1) A droid has important information that must be delivered to the good
guys (Episode IV, anyone?)



2) so the bad guys hunt for the droid on a desert planet (IV)



3) Storm troopers raid a village, killing everyone (IV)



4) A girl is captured by the bad guys and the good guys rush to the
base to the rescue. (IV)



5) The girl and the boy have a friend zone relationship through the
film (Ep IV, Luke & Leia, wouldn't be surprised to learn that they are
siblings in Episode IX)



6) The stormtroopers, elite soldiers of the bad guys, still can't hit a
barn door. On the other hand, the good guys always hit, even when they
use a weapon for the first time in their life



7) Supreme Leader Snoke = Emperor with a silly name



8) The bad guys have a magnificent new weapon that can destroy planets
(Ep IV)



9) They use it to destroy a planet loyal to the rebels (IV)



10) The weapon has shields that can be destroyed by going down on the
planet and disabling the shield generator (VI)



11) The epic villain wears a mask that distorts his voice (IV) and
sadly, looks better with the mask on than without it.



12) The good guys can only destroy the weapon with an attack by X-Wings
on the exact target (IV)



13) The X-Wings have to fly in a tight trench in order to reach their
target (IV)



The screen writers had absolutely no new ideas to show for their money.
A bunch of monkeys could have written better dialogue. A 1st grader
could have made a plot that had less holes in it. The special effects
were pretty much of the same quality as in the first Star Wars movie
that was released 1977. I'd expect something way better in 2015.




http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/reviews?start=10
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You're stoned.  Manos: the Hands of Fate couldn't make the prequels decent flicks.  TFA is ten times the film any of the prequels were.
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You're stoned.  Manos: the Hands of Fate couldn't make the prequels decent flicks.  TFA is ten times the film any of the prequels were.


I think as the months and years go on, people are going to realize how shallow and terrible this movie is, once the "omg graphics!" Wears off and folks really watch it.

It's going to be great to see the Lego remakes and the plinkett review though.
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I'm pretty sure there were TiEs running overwatch that were still in the air. Besides, the transport has armor and shields and guns too.

Also, in respect to the TiEs, what the hell was up with the weird gunners position. And since when did TiEs have a gunners position?
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Because they should have shot on the shit out of this if it was on the ground:

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I'm pretty sure there were TiEs running overwatch that were still in the air. Besides, the transport has armor and shields and guns too.

Also, in respect to the TiEs, what the hell was up with the weird gunners position. And since when did TiEs have a gunners position?


Had to make it cool and edgy. It was confusing as hell because we thought he was firing backwards, but he was just sitting backwards and firing forwards. Apparently tie pilots of today can't do both. And xwing pilots are also bombers now too.
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Lots of entertaining reviews on IMDb.


Sad but true. When the opening credits filled the screen (EpisodeVII... blah blah) I was already grinding my teeth because the plotsounded idiotic. Then the huge star destroyer filled the screen. Thefun bit is that the star destroyer had some sort of antenna or whateverat the front and it looked liked the ship was showing the middle fingertowards the viewers.

I have to congratulate the film makers as that was pretty much how thefilm worked from that point forward.

1) A droid has important information that must be delivered to the goodguys (Episode IV, anyone?)

2) so the bad guys hunt for the droid on a desert planet (IV)

3) Storm troopers raid a village, killing everyone (IV)

4) A girl is captured by the bad guys and the good guys rush to thebase to the rescue. (IV)

5) The girl and the boy have a friend zone relationship through thefilm (Ep IV, Luke & Leia, wouldn't be surprised to learn that they aresiblings in Episode IX)

6) The stormtroopers, elite soldiers of the bad guys, still can't hit abarn door. On the other hand, the good guys always hit, even when theyuse a weapon for the first time in their life

7) Supreme Leader Snoke = Emperor with a silly name

8) The bad guys have a magnificent new weapon that can destroy planets(Ep IV)

9) They use it to destroy a planet loyal to the rebels (IV)

10) The weapon has shields that can be destroyed by going down on theplanet and disabling the shield generator (VI)

11) The epic villain wears a mask that distorts his voice (IV) andsadly, looks better with the mask on than without it.

12) The good guys can only destroy the weapon with an attack by X-Wingson the exact target (IV)

13) The X-Wings have to fly in a tight trench in order to reach theirtarget (IV)

The screen writers had absolutely no new ideas to show for their money.A bunch of monkeys could have written better dialogue. A 1st gradercould have made a plot that had less holes in it. The special effectswere pretty much of the same quality as in the first Star Wars moviethat was released 1977. I'd expect something way better in 2015.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/reviews?start=10
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While all that stuff is true, similar arguments could be made about a lot of other movies and other things.

All war movies:

Some people disagreed so they fought.

Weapons were used.

People died.

Someone won.

Point I'm making is those similarities don't bother me. The films take place in the same universe, a lot of the same characters, so naturally similarities will exist.
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You're stoned.  Manos: the Hands of Fate couldn't make the prequels decent flicks.  TFA is ten times the film any of the prequels were.


I think as the months and years go on, people are going to realize how shallow and terrible this movie is, once the "omg graphics!" Wears off and folks really watch it.



Yeah, I'm thinking you're off your nut.  It wasn't Oscar worthy, but it was well made, well acted and incredible visually.  The critics were just as positive about it as the fans and they aren't generally ga-ga about SFX.
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I was actually pumped for this movie, bought tickets when they became aavailable, was giddy like  school girl when the title came up. Halfway through I realized this was a shitty movie dressed up as star wars. The acting was great, the writing and directing was shit. Jj Abrams was a terrible, unoriginal pick for director.
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I was actually pumped for this movie, bought tickets when they became aavailable, was giddy like  school girl when the title came up. Halfway through I realized this was a shitty movie dressed up as star wars. The acting was great, the writing and directing was shit. Jj Abrams was a terrible, unoriginal pick for director.


Still better than the last director.

Granted, the movie was not Schindler's List but as a Star Wars movie it was damn good. I place it in the top 3 of all the Star Wars movies.
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I think as the months and years go on, people are going to realize how shallow and terrible this movie is, once the "omg graphics!" Wears off and folks really watch it.

It's going to be great to see the Lego remakes and the plinkett review though.
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You're stoned.  Manos: the Hands of Fate couldn't make the prequels decent flicks.  TFA is ten times the film any of the prequels were.


I think as the months and years go on, people are going to realize how shallow and terrible this movie is, once the "omg graphics!" Wears off and folks really watch it.

It's going to be great to see the Lego remakes and the plinkett review though.


Lets be fair though, when you look at the Star Wars movies as actual movies and not just Star Wars movies they are actually not very good. The acting was always bad and the stories were always shallow.

That being said though, this is Star Wars and they get judged by a different standard.
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Still better than the last director.

Granted, the movie was not Schindler's List but as a Star Wars movie it was damn good. I place it in the top 3 of all the Star Wars movies.
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I was actually pumped for this movie, bought tickets when they became aavailable, was giddy like  school girl when the title came up. Halfway through I realized this was a shitty movie dressed up as star wars. The acting was great, the writing and directing was shit. Jj Abrams was a terrible, unoriginal pick for director.


Still better than the last director.

Granted, the movie was not Schindler's List but as a Star Wars movie it was damn good. I place it in the top 3 of all the Star Wars movies.


So do you compare all movies to Schindler's list?
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I was actually pumped for this movie, bought tickets when they became aavailable, was giddy like  school girl when the title came up. Halfway through I realized this was a shitty movie dressed up as star wars. The acting was great, the writing and directing was shit. Jj Abrams was a terrible, unoriginal pick for director.


Still better than the last director.

Granted, the movie was not Schindler's List but as a Star Wars movie it was damn good. I place it in the top 3 of all the Star Wars movies.


So do you compare all movies to Schindler's list?


I was trying to point out that there are movies and then there is Star Wars.

The only good way to judge a Star Wars movie is by comparing it to another Star Wars movie.
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That's what I came away with as well.
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After seeing the movie a second time, I'm calling it: Rey is Luke's daughter.

The signs other than her force sensitivity:

1. Maz saying to Rey "that was Luke Skywalker's light saber and his fathers before him. Now it calls to you."

2. Luke looked like he was standing over a grave marked by a stone that blended in very well with the other rocks. Probably a spouse or lover's grave.

Personally, I think Luke was getting it on with one of his students, had a kid, had to hide her, dropped her off on Jakku, then Kylo Ren massacred her and the rest of the Jedis in training. He blames himself for her death and Kylo Ren's fall to the dark side so he bails.


That's what I came away with as well.


Same here.

And I personally think that Snoke is actually Darth Plagueis.
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I was trying to point out that there are movies and then there is Star Wars.

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I think a lot of people convinced themselves it sucked before they saw it.


I was actually pumped for this movie, bought tickets when they became aavailable, was giddy like  school girl when the title came up. Halfway through I realized this was a shitty movie dressed up as star wars. The acting was great, the writing and directing was shit. Jj Abrams was a terrible, unoriginal pick for director.


Still better than the last director.

Granted, the movie was not Schindler's List but as a Star Wars movie it was damn good. I place it in the top 3 of all the Star Wars movies.


So do you compare all movies to Schindler's list?


I was trying to point out that there are movies and then there is Star Wars.

The only good way to judge a Star Wars movie is by comparing it to another Star Wars movie.


I get your point but I disagree. Lots of scifi movies to compare it to.

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This.

You can't compare it to, say, Ben-Hur, or The Seven Samurai, or North By Northwest.

You have to compare it to how well it measures up to TESB (Which is widely regarded as the pinnacle of Star Wars films)
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Same here.

And I personally think that Snoke is actually Darth Plagueis.
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After seeing the movie a second time, I'm calling it: Rey is Luke's daughter.

The signs other than her force sensitivity:

1. Maz saying to Rey "that was Luke Skywalker's light saber and his fathers before him. Now it calls to you."

2. Luke looked like he was standing over a grave marked by a stone that blended in very well with the other rocks. Probably a spouse or lover's grave.

Personally, I think Luke was getting it on with one of his students, had a kid, had to hide her, dropped her off on Jakku, then Kylo Ren massacred her and the rest of the Jedis in training. He blames himself for her death and Kylo Ren's fall to the dark side so he bails.


That's what I came away with as well.


Same here.

And I personally think that Snoke is actually Darth Plagueis.


I suspect that as well but I am not familiar enough with how Plagueis was (not) killed. Snoke did appear to have a big scar on his head. Did Sidious slash him with his saber to do him in?
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It felt like Star wars, but didn't. I kind of lean toward it was a mistake to use the originals after such a long gap. In Starlog or something during the original trilogy, Lucas' original plan was prequel trilogy and sequal trilogy.
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While all that stuff is true, similar arguments could be made about a lot of other movies and other things.

All war movies:

Some people disagreed so they fought.

Weapons were used.

People died.

Someone won.

Point I'm making is those similarities don't bother me. The films take place in the same universe, a lot of the same characters, so naturally similarities will exist.
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While all that stuff is true, similar arguments could be made about a lot of other movies and other things.

All war movies:

Some people disagreed so they fought.

Weapons were used.

People died.

Someone won.

Point I'm making is those similarities don't bother me. The films take place in the same universe, a lot of the same characters, so naturally similarities will exist.


Will you still be saying that when the next movie (VIII) features the following?

~Kylo hunts down the Resistance and puts the Resistance on the run (aka Battle of Endor)
~Rey trains with Luke (aka Luke goes to Dagobah to train under Yoda)
~Somebody gets captured by Kylo and is used as a lure for Rey (aka Leia and Han getting captured and Luke coming to the rescue at Cloud City)
~Rey loses the fight with Kylo but survives and escapes (Vader vs Luke at Cloud City)



I actually really liked Episode VII, but while watching it (today), it definitely felt like a rehashed IV.
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I think as the months and years go on, people are going to realize how shallow and terrible this movie is, once the "omg graphics!" Wears off and folks really watch it.



It's going to be great to see the Lego remakes and the plinkett review though.
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The only one good thing in TFA is that it makes the prequels decent flicks.






You're stoned.  Manos: the Hands of Fate couldn't make the prequels decent flicks.  TFA is ten times the film any of the prequels were.




I think as the months and years go on, people are going to realize how shallow and terrible this movie is, once the "omg graphics!" Wears off and folks really watch it.



It's going to be great to see the Lego remakes and the plinkett review though.




 
I think as the months and years go on, people will continue to like it and you'll realize that your opinion is in a very small minority.
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