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Posted: 12/15/2014 6:08:08 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Know how I know you've never driven one ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's a turd. Go test drive a Nissan Maxima with a CVT and floor it. You'll forget all about that firechicken.  Know how I know you've never driven one ? I have. It's just OK. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 6:12:46 AM EST
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Well shoot. Dealership about an hour away has an 02 Firehawk with t-tops and a 6spd on Craigslist. Actually, pictures all show it as a Firehawk (judging by hood intake, door and bumper decals, and partial glimpse of center console badge.... I'm not sure what else to look for in the pics), but it's listed as a Formula. Fake FH, or did they not know what to list it as? No price of course. I'll call tomorrow and see if I can get that out of them for shits and giggles. http://ls1tech.com/forums/general-lsx-automobile-discussion/921275-how-tell-if-its-real-firehawk.html |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 6:19:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well shoot. Dealership about an hour away has an 02 Firehawk with t-tops and a 6spd on Craigslist. Actually, pictures all show it as a Firehawk (judging by hood intake, door and bumper decals, and partial glimpse of center console badge.... I'm not sure what else to look for in the pics), but it's listed as a Formula. Fake FH, or did they not know what to list it as? No price of course. I'll call tomorrow and see if I can get that out of them for shits and giggles. ETA i think technically all V8 firebirds are formulas
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Posted: 12/15/2014 9:49:00 AM EST
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Awesome cars. Im a fbody/ls1 junkie. I have a 99 trans am (where my username comes from). Im in the process of redoing thr whole car. 4th gen fbidies are the best budget muscle car hands down. The aftermarket is unbelievable for them too. The price for that particular one seems a bit high though. Get a 6 speed too. The 4l60s werent known for being very strong.
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Posted: 12/15/2014 10:03:32 AM EST
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We have a turbo F-body drag car. 
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Did a tune up on my friends C5 a couple months age. All in all, Not horrible until I got to the rear two plugs on the drivers side.
I had to remove the inner wheel well and use a miles worth of extensions. Putting it back in was a pain in the ass. Silicone hose on the extension and pushed onto the plug, it was kind of a bugger. Those two can be hard, but once you learn where to hold your wrench, you don't have to go through all that trouble. I can tell you never had to change them on an Fbody though. That's something you don't forget. 
We have a turbo F-body drag car.
Granted it is not stock. But I didn't think it was all that bad. What do you race it in? Me and my dad are building my trans am around ultra street rules and for local stuff. 347 stock crank forged rods and pistons Trick flow 235 heads with studs Probly going to do a billet wheeled 76mm turbo 8.50 cage Hoping to get it to go 5.30s |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 10:28:36 AM EST
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Those damn C6's keep whispering in my ear to buy one of them. Sooner or later, they are going to get the better of me. Get a 2004 Goat. seriously, the aussies know how to put an interior together. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Build quality is pretty bad on those cars. The unibody is about as stiff as a rubber band. They can be good cars with some work. I would spend more and get a low mileage one since most of these cars have probably had the piss beat out of them. Or just spend a few thousand more and get a C5 Corvette.. they solve many of the f-body issues out of the box. Those damn C6's keep whispering in my ear to buy one of them. Sooner or later, they are going to get the better of me. Get a 2004 Goat. seriously, the aussies know how to put an interior together. +1 on a GTO. Unibody built like a bank vault compared to the F-body, maintenance-friendly under the hood, interior that is 50x better. Just dont ever get in an accident in one; replacement parts are getting pricey. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 10:35:13 AM EST
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It's a turd. Go test drive a Nissan Maxima with a CVT and floor it. You'll forget all about that firechicken. I drive a 3.5 altima and your post gave me aids Haha, same here. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 3:27:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You never know. The dealership that i bought my WS6 from thought they were selling a regular trans am because it didn't come with the ram air hood. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well shoot. Dealership about an hour away has an 02 Firehawk with t-tops and a 6spd on Craigslist. Actually, pictures all show it as a Firehawk (judging by hood intake, door and bumper decals, and partial glimpse of center console badge.... I'm not sure what else to look for in the pics), but it's listed as a Formula. Fake FH, or did they not know what to list it as? No price of course. I'll call tomorrow and see if I can get that out of them for shits and giggles. ETA i think technically all V8 firebirds are formulas Quoted: Thanks.Quoted: Well shoot. Dealership about an hour away has an 02 Firehawk with t-tops and a 6spd on Craigslist. Actually, pictures all show it as a Firehawk (judging by hood intake, door and bumper decals, and partial glimpse of center console badge.... I'm not sure what else to look for in the pics), but it's listed as a Formula. Fake FH, or did they not know what to list it as? No price of course. I'll call tomorrow and see if I can get that out of them for shits and giggles. http://ls1tech.com/forums/general-lsx-automobile-discussion/921275-how-tell-if-its-real-firehawk.html |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 3:33:28 PM EST
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And I guarantee the modern v6 won't touch it. God you people are car ignorant. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lol a modern v6 matches that output And I guarantee the modern v6 won't touch it. God you people are car ignorant. They must have missed seeing them run low 13s@105+ stock and putting 300 to wheels even though they were rated 305 crank. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 3:37:17 PM EST
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lol a modern v6 matches that output And I guarantee the modern v6 won't touch it. God you people are car ignorant. They must have missed seeing them run low 13s@105+ stock and putting 300 to wheels even though they were rated 305 crank. Mustangs and Fast Fords (?) got a stock LS1 camaro into the high 12s with just tires I believe. These cars are 350hp from the factory. I've had 2 and love 'em. (Currently have a '02 Z28) |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 3:40:47 PM EST
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Mustangs and Fast Fords (?) got a stock LS1 camaro into the high 12s with just tires I believe. These cars are 350hp from the factory. I've had 2 and love 'em. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lol a modern v6 matches that output And I guarantee the modern v6 won't touch it. God you people are car ignorant. They must have missed seeing them run low 13s@105+ stock and putting 300 to wheels even though they were rated 305 crank. Mustangs and Fast Fords (?) got a stock LS1 camaro into the high 12s with just tires I believe. These cars are 350hp from the factory. I've had 2 and love 'em. I don't believe shit Evan Smith said. We almost whooped his ass at fun ford Ennis.
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Posted: 12/15/2014 3:44:30 PM EST
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My buddy has 02 WS6 6MT, FBO heads and cam with only 36k miles on it.
Prob my favorite Fbody and he owns one of one of the better examples around. LS engines obviously respond better to mods then most engines but don't think it's cheap to mod, I think some people make that mistake. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 4:07:38 PM EST
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One thing I recommend before modding is to find a good TUNER. No hypertech or diablo sport. Make sure they are reputable if local, or find a reputable mail order tune. H/C/I/E/Gears will do no good if you don't have a good tune.
Edit: LS1TECH has a regional forum of sorts so I'm sure you can find someone close by. If not there are plenty of guys you can mail your computer to and have it tuned. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 4:57:56 PM EST
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One thing I recommend before modding is to find a good TUNER. No hypertech or diablo sport. Make sure they are reputable if local, or find a reputable mail order tune. H/C/I/E/Gears will do no good if you don't have a good tune. Edit: LS1TECH has a regional forum of sorts so I'm sure you can find someone close by. If not there are plenty of guys you can mail your computer to and have it tuned. +1 on the tuner, but you don't really need it for bolt-ons like intake and exhaust. Heads and cam swap will most likely always need a custom tune (like post above said, find someone that is skilled with EFI Live, not the cheap stuff). Once you go over a certain HP threshold, you'll have to upgrade your injectors. If you ever need a good mail-order tune to get you by temporarily....seek out a guy that goes by the handle "Frost", he's highly regarded at ls1tech as the most skilled mail-order LS1 tuner. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 5:32:04 PM EST
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You never know. The dealership that i bought my WS6 from thought they were selling a regular trans am because it didn't come with the ram air hood. ETA i think technically all V8 firebirds are formulas Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well shoot. Dealership about an hour away has an 02 Firehawk with t-tops and a 6spd on Craigslist. Actually, pictures all show it as a Firehawk (judging by hood intake, door and bumper decals, and partial glimpse of center console badge.... I'm not sure what else to look for in the pics), but it's listed as a Formula. Fake FH, or did they not know what to list it as? No price of course. I'll call tomorrow and see if I can get that out of them for shits and giggles. ETA i think technically all V8 firebirds are formulas Uh, no? |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 5:41:24 PM EST
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+1 on a GTO. Unibody built like a bank vault compared to the F-body, maintenance-friendly under the hood, interior that is 50x better. Just dont ever get in an accident in one; replacement parts are getting pricey. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Build quality is pretty bad on those cars. The unibody is about as stiff as a rubber band. They can be good cars with some work. I would spend more and get a low mileage one since most of these cars have probably had the piss beat out of them. Or just spend a few thousand more and get a C5 Corvette.. they solve many of the f-body issues out of the box. Those damn C6's keep whispering in my ear to buy one of them. Sooner or later, they are going to get the better of me. Get a 2004 Goat. seriously, the aussies know how to put an interior together. +1 on a GTO. Unibody built like a bank vault compared to the F-body, maintenance-friendly under the hood, interior that is 50x better. Just dont ever get in an accident in one; replacement parts are getting pricey. My 2004 gto with 408 stroker and nitrous ran 10.2 at 135 mph in 1/4 mile. I sold it a few years back. It was a nice car, but for drag racing you are better to start with an fbody. 2004 GTO 408 idle clip |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 5:43:28 PM EST
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The interior on those things was fucking hideous. Most 90's cars had suckass interiors. 
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Posted: 12/15/2014 5:57:27 PM EST
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The interior on those things was fucking hideous. Most 90's cars had suckass interiors. The Pontiac variation had the better interior in the case of the 4th gen fbody. I had a leather equipped T/A with interior that was actually tolerable...but before that I had a cloth equipped Camaro and it was just awful IMO. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 6:05:10 PM EST
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The Pontiac variation had the better interior of the case of the 4th gen fbody. I had a leather equipped T/A that the interior was actually tolerable...but before that I had a cloth equipped Camaro and it was just awful IMO. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The interior on those things was fucking hideous. Most 90's cars had suckass interiors. The Pontiac variation had the better interior of the case of the 4th gen fbody. I had a leather equipped T/A that the interior was actually tolerable...but before that I had a cloth equipped Camaro and it was just awful IMO. Way too much 'organic' and ovoid things in most interiors back then, even the radio in the Ford Taurus was an ellipse. It got old fast. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 6:20:12 PM EST
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Way too much 'organic' and ovoid things in most interiors back then, even the radio in the Ford Taurus was an ellipse. It got old fast. I know what you mean. Also, most of the plastic was flimsy and was often assembled loose enough to eventually rattle and squeak back then. The CD/tape decks really date that generation of cars. But there is something that I really miss about those 90's interiors....a "tilt wheel" that actually had a wide range of motion. This era's version of a tilted steering wheel is pathetic! |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 6:30:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh, no? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well shoot. Dealership about an hour away has an 02 Firehawk with t-tops and a 6spd on Craigslist. Actually, pictures all show it as a Firehawk (judging by hood intake, door and bumper decals, and partial glimpse of center console badge.... I'm not sure what else to look for in the pics), but it's listed as a Formula. Fake FH, or did they not know what to list it as? No price of course. I'll call tomorrow and see if I can get that out of them for shits and giggles. ETA i think technically all V8 firebirds are formulas Uh, no? |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 7:37:26 PM EST
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It's a turd. Go test drive a Nissan Maxima with a CVT and floor it. You'll forget all about that firechicken.
Those cars with the LS motors can be insane with some work. I used to own a Maxima, '11 SV, and while it was surprisingly quick it's NO comparison to a V8 RWD car EDIT: Spelling |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 7:49:10 PM EST
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This thread makes me wish I hadn't gave this to my daughter for graduation. 1988 IROC-Z I bought in 1991 for $5500.
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Posted: 12/15/2014 11:11:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread makes me wish I hadn't gave this to my daughter for graduation. 1988 IROC-Z I bought in 1991 for $5500. http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a405/jabrownii/88IROCCONV_zps171d77b0.jpg  |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 11:49:57 AM EST
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Bought in Jan of 98, and still my daily driver. 3.4, but it averages upper 20's... usually... for mileage. It does need a lot of work though. I'm starting to see the appeal of a newer car. I'm just too cheap though. http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag167/jeffro556/fbird_zps9d87bc35.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread makes me wish I hadn't gave this to my daughter for graduation. 1988 IROC-Z I bought in 1991 for $5500. http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a405/jabrownii/88IROCCONV_zps171d77b0.jpg http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag167/jeffro556/fbird_zps9d87bc35.jpg What paint code is that? It looks similar to the Sunset Orange Metallic...I wish my car was SOM 
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Posted: 12/16/2014 12:18:58 PM EST
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You guys are making miss my 96 TA
Not much room under the hood, especially with the LT4-based small block 396, ATI D1 Supercharger, extra injector controller box (to allow 72lb injectors), custom fuel system, and strut tower brace (which complimented the welded in sub-frame connectors). Dyno tested at 720 RWHP on 17 PSIG. 
Car was setup fro road racing, not drag racing, but here's a slow launch o the way to a 11.22@131 pass. Had to take it easy on the Torsen rear. 
Eventually, the mods came to twice the price of the car. But it passed rolling emissions testing in PA, and got 25 MPG on the highway. Was a very easy to handle daily driver that was faster and handled better than 98% of the cars on the street. Plus, it was a fun hobby to build and wrench on. Fastest I ever took it was a measured 177 MPH on the track at Gateway in St. Louis. Car still had more in it, I didn't. Eventually switched hobbies from fast cars to Title II guns. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 2:16:07 AM EST
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What do you race it in? Me and my dad are building my trans am around ultra street rules and for local stuff. 347 stock crank forged rods and pistons Trick flow 235 heads with studs Probly going to do a billet wheeled 76mm turbo 8.50 cage Hoping to get it to go 5.30s Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did a tune up on my friends C5 a couple months age. All in all, Not horrible until I got to the rear two plugs on the drivers side.
I had to remove the inner wheel well and use a miles worth of extensions. Putting it back in was a pain in the ass. Silicone hose on the extension and pushed onto the plug, it was kind of a bugger. Those two can be hard, but once you learn where to hold your wrench, you don't have to go through all that trouble. I can tell you never had to change them on an Fbody though. That's something you don't forget.
We have a turbo F-body drag car.
Granted it is not stock. But I didn't think it was all that bad. What do you race it in? Me and my dad are building my trans am around ultra street rules and for local stuff. 347 stock crank forged rods and pistons Trick flow 235 heads with studs Probly going to do a billet wheeled 76mm turbo 8.50 cage Hoping to get it to go 5.30s TFS 235's on a 3.905 bore? You sure, sparky? |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 2:42:14 AM EST
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+1 on a GTO. Unibody built like a bank vault compared to the F-body, maintenance-friendly under the hood, interior that is 50x better. Just dont ever get in an accident in one; replacement parts are getting pricey. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Build quality is pretty bad on those cars. The unibody is about as stiff as a rubber band. They can be good cars with some work. I would spend more and get a low mileage one since most of these cars have probably had the piss beat out of them. Or just spend a few thousand more and get a C5 Corvette.. they solve many of the f-body issues out of the box. Those damn C6's keep whispering in my ear to buy one of them. Sooner or later, they are going to get the better of me. Get a 2004 Goat. seriously, the aussies know how to put an interior together. +1 on a GTO. Unibody built like a bank vault compared to the F-body, maintenance-friendly under the hood, interior that is 50x better. Just dont ever get in an accident in one; replacement parts are getting pricey. The 04-06 GTOs are pretty solid although they have their particular problems like the f-bodies. Cheaper parts can be found through breaker yards. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 3:35:46 AM EST
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See user name. Very fun cars, ive owned 3 LS1s and an ls3. If you can find an 01 or 02, they will be faster as they got some upgrades borrowed from the LS6. Very first mod should be a strut tower brace, this will help the sloppy ass body feel a bit more solid and may even help with the squeeks and rattles. I owned a 98 Formula auto, was my first V8 and i loved it, added a wisper lid and cutout and it ran a 13.4@106. Very few stock cars will touch that even today. My favorite was my 02 WS6 6sp, god this car was fun, was a factory freak too, Car made 324 Rear wheel Hp stock and 344 rear wheel hp after lid and exhaust. Ran a 12.99@111 mpg. Let me know if you have questions, ive busted many a knuckle working on them. My 01 Z28 made 330 rwhp, 340 ft-lbs with just an exhaust and intake...And that was with an automatic and the shitty 10 bolt rear with 2.73's. OP, have fun changing the spark plugs when you get around to it...Also the rear end is a weak point on these cars, you'll have issues with that far before the engine or trans. 
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http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h431/91lxmustang/evyvu6uv.jpg This was me last summer Try a fuckin' Vette.
What year?...my son's C5 Z06 was a piece of cake to do the plugs on....his C4 was even easier. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 3:53:10 PM EST
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One thing I recommend before modding is to find a good TUNER. No hypertech or diablo sport. Make sure they are reputable if local, or find a reputable mail order tune. H/C/I/E/Gears will do no good if you don't have a good tune. Edit: LS1TECH has a regional forum of sorts so I'm sure you can find someone close by. If not there are plenty of guys you can mail your computer to and have it tuned. Frost in Richmond is one of the best. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 3:59:34 PM EST
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Build quality is pretty bad on those cars. The unibody is about as stiff as a rubber band. They can be good cars with some work. I would spend more and get a low mileage one since most of these cars have probably had the piss beat out of them. Or just spend a few thousand more and get a C5 Corvette.. they solve many of the f-body issues out of the box. Those damn C6's keep whispering in my ear to buy one of them. Sooner or later, they are going to get the better of me. Get a 2004 Goat. seriously, the aussies know how to put an interior together. The 2004 has a 5.7 in it. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 4:12:36 PM EST
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I have auto-x'd my buddy's 2000 Anniversary Edition a few times. Basically a great engine and transmission stuck in a flimsy poor handling chassis. It's actually so 'effed up that at auto-x speeds it's a hoot to drive. I think it would be flat out scary at race track speeds though. With better shocks, a slight drop, some AR bars, and a better limited slip, it might be acceptable for a live axle car. In stock form its a disaster. But wildly entertaining. Like skiing a slalom on stilts.
I personally find the styling abysmal, particularly inside. The melted plastic-looking dash is just horrid, and the "look at me" striped paint scheme and blue wheels are silly. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 4:19:43 PM EST
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It's a turd. Go test drive a Nissan Maxima with a CVT and floor it. You'll forget all about that firechicken. Absolutely laughable. A stock LS Formula is at least a full second faster in the 1/4 in any real world scenario, and it has vast superiority in ease of modification to produce even more power/results. There is no reasonable comparison to be made between those cars in ANY kind of race (unless were talking the tow truck "racing" to the Nissan dealer to repair that piece of shit Nissan CVT tranny). -Ed |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 4:21:43 PM EST
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Had a 96 Z28 1LE and a 99 SS with the Y2Y package and all the goodies from SLP(Bilsteins, Allison rear end, Dual Dual stainless exhaust) The Formulas are fast for their day and the LS1 is a great motor. The Trans Ams looked much better and hold value better. Yet the Formula was still a good ride, but the interiors look bad by todays standards The 94-97 interiors looked better IMHO. Also like all 4th gen F bodies the Traction control was very invasive. 100K miles and the suspension will have to be gone thru, the motor and tranny should be good if maintained. Maybe a new clutch if it's a stick. Cheap cars to work on over all. Decent brakes, but will fade quick with cheap/stock pads and discs.
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Posted: 12/17/2014 4:25:50 PM EST
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Muscle Car: '70 Coronet. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/2326078975_382a5fc5ec.jpg edited to correct the model year 
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Posted: 12/17/2014 4:32:00 PM EST
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lol a modern v6 matches that output Let me remind everyone: I don't want to spend the money for a new one. I drive 3k miles a year. w/ an LS , a few grand could get him another 150-200 hp. I've got a thirdgen sitting in the driveway. I say go for it. F-Bodys are fun. Put in subframe connectors and you will take care of the weak unibody. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 4:49:04 PM EST
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Screw the haters, the LS platform is a huge positive and the cars are fun handling, respond very well to bolt on's and faster than people give them credit.
I miss my 02 Z/28 but not as much as my C1500 street truck. 
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Posted: 12/18/2014 10:12:04 PM EST
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lol a modern v6 matches that output And I guarantee the modern v6 won't touch it. God you people are car ignorant. Nissan 350/370Z? |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 10:14:42 PM EST
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w/ an LS , a few grand could get him another 150-200 hp. I've got a thirdgen sitting in the driveway. I say go for it. F-Bodys are fun. Put in subframe connectors and you will take care of the weak unibody. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lol a modern v6 matches that output Let me remind everyone: I don't want to spend the money for a new one. I drive 3k miles a year. w/ an LS , a few grand could get him another 150-200 hp. I've got a thirdgen sitting in the driveway. I say go for it. F-Bodys are fun. Put in subframe connectors and you will take care of the weak unibody. It's going to cost you much more than that to gain 150-200hp. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 10:19:09 PM EST
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It's a turd. Go test drive a Nissan Maxima with a CVT and floor it. You'll forget all about that firechicken. Holy fucking derp. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 10:27:57 PM EST
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lol a modern v6 matches that output And I guarantee the modern v6 won't touch it. God you people are car ignorant. Nissan 350/370Z? I used to smash on Nissan 350Zs in my old Lt1 z28. A LS car would destroy one. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 11:39:33 PM EST
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Did a tune up on my friends C5 a couple months age. All in all, Not horrible until I got to the rear two plugs on the drivers side.
I had to remove the inner wheel well and use a miles worth of extensions. Putting it back in was a pain in the ass. Silicone hose on the extension and pushed onto the plug, it was kind of a bugger. Those two can be hard, but once you learn where to hold your wrench, you don't have to go through all that trouble. I can tell you never had to change them on an Fbody though. That's something you don't forget.
We have a turbo F-body drag car.
Granted it is not stock. But I didn't think it was all that bad. What do you race it in? Me and my dad are building my trans am around ultra street rules and for local stuff. 347 stock crank forged rods and pistons Trick flow 235 heads with studs Probly going to do a billet wheeled 76mm turbo 8.50 cage Hoping to get it to go 5.30s TFS 235's on a 3.905 bore? You sure, sparky? Good catch. Must of had something else on my mind. Theyre 225's. Suprised you didnt also notice that they arent legal for ultra street. Were hoping for a rule change to allowe non stock valve angles on boosted ls motors by the time were done |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 11:41:49 PM EST
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Old floppy handling GM car with bad suspension and terrible interior.
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Posted: 12/19/2014 12:10:37 AM EST
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Old floppy handling GM car with bad suspension and terrible interior. Also the engine doesn't act like it has that much horsepower. After reading this I realize you are correct. I threw away thousands of dollars on a POS. I will put 100 lbs of Tannerite in it and correct my faulty thinking. Thank you Sir for being pragmatic. |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 12:15:03 AM EST
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Old floppy handling GM car with bad suspension and terrible interior. Also the engine doesn't act like it has that much horsepower. LOL 14er. |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 12:22:06 AM EST
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After reading this I realize you are correct. I threw away thousands of dollars on a POS. I will put 100 lbs of Tannerite in it and correct my faulty thinking. Thank you Sir for being pragmatic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Old floppy handling GM car with bad suspension and terrible interior. Also the engine doesn't act like it has that much horsepower. After reading this I realize you are correct. I threw away thousands of dollars on a POS. I will put 100 lbs of Tannerite in it and correct my faulty thinking. Thank you Sir for being pragmatic. I had one of the first redesigned 1998 Camaros with the new/old LS1 (I think that's the year they switched over from the LT1). Unless that particular one was a turd, I wasn't very impressed with the car. |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 12:27:20 AM EST
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Old floppy handling GM car with bad suspension and terrible interior. Also the engine doesn't act like it has that much horsepower. After reading this I realize you are correct. I threw away thousands of dollars on a POS. I will put 100 lbs of Tannerite in it and correct my faulty thinking. Thank you Sir for being pragmatic. I had one of the first redesigned 1998 Camaros with the new/old LS1 (I think that's the year they switched over from the LT1). Unless that particular one was a turd, I wasn't very impressed with the car. Not impressed compared to what? |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 12:28:59 AM EST
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Not impressed compared to what? Sadly, the GT Mustang I traded for it 
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Not impressed compared to what? Sadly, the GT Mustang I traded for it Ok, what year GT mustang? Mods? |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 12:39:36 AM EST
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Not impressed compared to what? Sadly, the GT Mustang I traded for it Ok, what year GT mustang? Mods? The 'stang was a 95. I liked to do a lot of weekend road course racing/SCCA stuff back then, so both cars were set up with track suspensions and semi-slick racing tires. Engines were stock. When I had it mostly dialed in, I could not match my lap times with the Mustang. The Camaro was faster off of the line, but didn't handle very well. |
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