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Posted: 9/7/2024 2:36:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 4 first time post accounts in one thread. This has to be a record. Free bump To all the new members posting in this thread:  
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Posted: 9/7/2024 2:44:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everything good in this country has always started in Virginia. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wait... I remember this USA... Everything good in this country has always started in Virginia. Well I wouldn't go that far... Missouri had a bit of a role in getting things going, and Texas literally built the country out with blood and bullets. Fact is it took a whole bunch of folks from a whole bunch of places to put all this together, and it'll take a whole bunch of folks from a whole bunch of places to put it back like it was.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 2:48:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well I wouldn't go that far... Missouri had a bit of a role in getting things going, and Texas literally built the country out with blood and bullets. Fact is it took a whole bunch of folks from a whole bunch of places to put all this together, and it'll take a whole bunch of folks from a whole bunch of places to put it back like it was. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Wait... I remember this USA... Everything good in this country has always started in Virginia. Well I wouldn't go that far... Missouri had a bit of a role in getting things going, and Texas literally built the country out with blood and bullets. Fact is it took a whole bunch of folks from a whole bunch of places to put all this together, and it'll take a whole bunch of folks from a whole bunch of places to put it back like it was. Okay let's both not sidetrack and agree fuck Maryland |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 2:52:27 PM EST
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Best of luck.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 2:53:25 PM EST
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Welcome.
This is a breath of fresh air. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 2:56:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So let's set up the sub forum and whoever wants to learn how to get it set up where they live can discuss in there. Like I said, Dan and I are new to this site but we both want to help get this set up nationwide. Alternatively I can set up a group in Signal where I can share PDFs/docs and I can post the invite in here. Whatever works to get the job done That's going to take the attention from the higher ups to make that happen. Let's @Subnet and see if he can point us in the right direction. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 2:57:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay let's both not sidetrack and agree fuck Maryland
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:00:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title44/chapter1/section44-1/ 44-1. Composition of militia. The militia of the Commonwealth of Virginia shall consist of all able bodied residents of the Commonwealth who are citizens of the United States and all other able bodied persons resident in the Commonwealth who have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, who are at least 16 years of age and, except as hereinafter provided, not more than 55 years of age. The militia shall be divided into three classes: the National Guard, which includes the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard; the Virginia Defense Force; and the unorganized militia. https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title44/chapter1/section44-4/ 44-4. Composition of unorganized militia. The unorganized militia shall consist of all able-bodied persons as set out in 44-1, except such as may be included in 44-2 and 44-54.6 and except such as may be exempted as hereinafter provided. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:13:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BTW - this is Alexandra Griffeth, and I just graduated with my masters in American History with a focus on the Revolution. I wrote my thesis on how the colonial militia were actually very effective combat troops when utilized correctly. And yes, I am a very good shooter. This forum needs a “Like” button. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:34:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So let's set up the sub forum and whoever wants to learn how to get it set up where they live can discuss in there. Like I said, Dan and I are new to this site but we both want to help get this set up nationwide. Alternatively I can set up a group in Signal where I can share PDFs/docs and I can post the invite in here. Whatever works to get the job done I like this idea. Welcome |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:37:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Let's go! I'm new to this site and don't know how to set it up, but if y'all think it would be helpful to get militias set up in your localities, let's do it Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can we get a local militia sub forum? Let's go! I'm new to this site and don't know how to set it up, but if y'all think it would be helpful to get militias set up in your localities, let's do it While a great sentiment, the powers that be on this site are very risk/bad image averse and this will never happen. Reminds me of some of the gun magazines I read when I was in Ireland back in the 90s. Their version of the NRA was a sad, castrated, brow beaten, do nothing of a group. Fast forward 20+ years and I see parallels, here (edit, here in this country) |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:42:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess my question on the militia side of this is...I see from googling about being recognized by your local county as a militia. Soooo...What happens when the County wants your help, and your Guard unit activates you. Or you're federally activated. For those of us who are compo 2/3, isn't the problem here that this still boils down to 'you can only pick one person' when push comes to shove? Okay so there are two possibilities for your proposed scenario. 1- both the guard and the county or both the feds and the guard are supporting the same mission. In that case there is already a precedent set with the guard for law enforcement and first responders as far as if you are essential personnel or in high demand in your locality that the guard will defer to your locality. If there is a widespread natural disaster in my community is hit really hard the guard typically defers to my community commitments. 2-the county and state or federal government are on different sides of the same issue. If the county is on a different side of an issue from the state or the feds only one of them can be holding moral high ground only one of them can be standing on what is legal moral and ethical. In that case my allegiance and loyalty lies with whoever is advocating for legality and morality. From a government standpoint this constitutional republic was built around the idea of the doctrine of the lesser Magistrate. Boiled down to basics the doctor of the lesser magistrate is that power should reside at the lowest level where it is most easily accessed by and most easily influenced by the people. Also from a historical standpoint when ever men's homes and families or communities were directly threatened they left state or federal service to look after their own. I'm accountable to God before any man so that would weigh heavy on my decision making. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:48:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Welcome. I noticed you’d that you left LE out of potential leadership candidates, how are the police in your area? I’m not throwing shit balls, just generally curious. They were in no way deliberately excluded, I did not intend to in any way make that list exhaustive. Honestly as far as being leaders of an organization that is putting Force of Arms in the hands of people law enforcement and military should be at the forefront. Campbell County sheriff Clark has been awesome!!! He has repeatedly publicly thanked the militia four things that we have done. Mike Miller next door in Bedford County has also been unbelievably supportive I have received letters from him thanking the militia for what they do. Nelson County and Appomattox County sheriff's departments are both very very friendly to me and the militia as well honestly nearly bulletproof relationships across the board. I couldn't be more impressed with the patriotism and the professionalism that those four sheriffs have shown me. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:53:35 PM EST
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What can y'all do about Northern Virginia like from Alexandria to Arlington.
It looks like a third world country. Makes me sick to see our sacred land being trampled. Just sayin'. Deo Vindice. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:55:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While a great sentiment, the powers that be on this site are very risk/bad image averse and this will never happen. Reminds me of some of the gun magazines I read when I was in Ireland back in the 90s. Their version of the NRA was a sad, castrated, brow beaten, do nothing of a group. Fast forward 20+ years and I see parallels, here (edit, here in this country) Ok.. well while we see what higher up on this site says, anyone who is serious about getting a constitutional militia started in their locality can join this group on Signal. I'll share all the documents we use and answer any questions yall have. https://signal.group/#CjQKIM-0imZMc1ugYZYXbGZXVBalIX3DJj4vjHneTCu7aRmPEhBbZMGdS5NibjYgvl6QeWss |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 4:00:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @dan_abbott Thank you for that! How do you vet your people? What would be the top 3-5 critical skills that you would recommend a member to learn/study/master before, or as soon, as they join up? What are the primary pieces of equipment that a member must have to be effective from the beginning? If your members are deficient in a particular area, how does your unit help correct the deficit? Honestly this is a huge question!!!! I'm not sure that I can effectively answer it via a post in this chat. My primary method of vetting is who people know. The first thing I ask people is who do you know how did you hear about us?? I then follow up with the people that they know. Top five things that I believe are important. 1- Fitness/nutrition 2- marksmanship both pistol and rifle 3- medical, first aid, CPR, stop the bleed. 4- education on civics. People have been deliberately miseducated by government indoctrination centers so that they don't know or understand what form of government we have been entrusted with what the purpose of that government is or how that government works. 5- Bushcraft, survival, prepping, homesteading. 6- communications 7- small unit tactics. There isn't actually any gear that is required for someone to train successfully with our organization because CCM owns everything they will need, rifles, kit, magazines, IFAKs eye-pro ear-pro, ruck sacks, radios. A new member needs to show up with a decent set of supportive hiking or tactical boots and long pants. For members behind the power curve we offer individual attention both at regular monthly trainings and outside of monthly trainings as well as using the performance of members at training to steer upcoming trainings. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 4:01:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You being alive and breathing is an anti government activity to them. Are you going to stop? Remember, these are the people who wanted to take away peoples children to rape and abuse them, while putting you and your spouse in a concentration camp, for not taking an unproven vaccine. Become ungovernable I'm about as close to ungovernable as you will find. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 4:05:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Welcome to the both of you. Even though I'm two states away I'll be following this thread with interest. Be advised that it won't be long before the thread-sliders and trolls will be along to try and throw a wrench in the gears. Please ignore them when they make their appearance. I applaud what you are doing and will be checking out your organization. Thanks for the heads up, but I've had worse I promise. ???? |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 4:31:12 PM EST
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Back in the day, when the shit hit the fan...
Lincoln would have had you arrested for the crime of disloyalty. It happened to thousands of civilians around here. They were thrown into military prisons for the duration of the insurrection. Sound familiar? |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 4:36:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Back in the day, when the shit hit the fan... Lincoln would have had you arrested for the crime of disloyalty. It happened to thousands of civilians around here. They were thrown into military prisons for the duration of the insurrection. Sound familiar? Oh look, Maryland is here. I guess y'all were right. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 4:42:41 PM EST
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Friendly reminder you can join signal groups without your phone number now
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Posted: 9/7/2024 4:44:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay so there are two possibilities for your proposed scenario. 1- both the guard and the county or both the feds and the guard are supporting the same mission. In that case there is already a precedent set with the guard for law enforcement and first responders as far as if you are essential personnel or in high demand in your locality that the guard will defer to your locality. If there is a widespread natural disaster in my community is hit really hard the guard typically defers to my community commitments. 2-the county and state or federal government are on different sides of the same issue. If the county is on a different side of an issue from the state or the feds only one of them can be holding moral high ground only one of them can be standing on what is legal moral and ethical. In that case my allegiance and loyalty lies with whoever is advocating for legality and morality. From a government standpoint this constitutional republic was built around the idea of the doctrine of the lesser Magistrate. Boiled down to basics the doctor of the lesser magistrate is that power should reside at the lowest level where it is most easily accessed by and most easily influenced by the people. Also from a historical standpoint when ever men's homes and families or communities were directly threatened they left state or federal service to look after their own. I'm accountable to God before any man so that would weigh heavy on my decision making. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I guess my question on the militia side of this is...I see from googling about being recognized by your local county as a militia. Soooo...What happens when the County wants your help, and your Guard unit activates you. Or you're federally activated. For those of us who are compo 2/3, isn't the problem here that this still boils down to 'you can only pick one person' when push comes to shove? Okay so there are two possibilities for your proposed scenario. 1- both the guard and the county or both the feds and the guard are supporting the same mission. In that case there is already a precedent set with the guard for law enforcement and first responders as far as if you are essential personnel or in high demand in your locality that the guard will defer to your locality. If there is a widespread natural disaster in my community is hit really hard the guard typically defers to my community commitments. 2-the county and state or federal government are on different sides of the same issue. If the county is on a different side of an issue from the state or the feds only one of them can be holding moral high ground only one of them can be standing on what is legal moral and ethical. In that case my allegiance and loyalty lies with whoever is advocating for legality and morality. From a government standpoint this constitutional republic was built around the idea of the doctrine of the lesser Magistrate. Boiled down to basics the doctor of the lesser magistrate is that power should reside at the lowest level where it is most easily accessed by and most easily influenced by the people. Also from a historical standpoint when ever men's homes and families or communities were directly threatened they left state or federal service to look after their own. I'm accountable to God before any man so that would weigh heavy on my decision making. I see you're a Jeffersonian |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 4:56:48 PM EST
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Quoted: Yes Sir. A Maryland boy sort of terminated Lincoln for his war crimes against the south. "Sic Semper Tyrannis" he said. That's the Virginia motto and it is on the state flag. Best state flag there is of any state. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 4:59:09 PM EST
[#24]
Welcome
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Posted: 9/7/2024 5:02:01 PM EST
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Have you guys received any pushback from your command?
Has any of this affected your careers outside of the Guard? |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 5:24:16 PM EST
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How about a female warrior standing over a downed tyrant.
She is carrying a sword and a pike. That's our flag. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 5:30:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While a great sentiment, the powers that be on this site are very risk/bad image averse and this will never happen. Reminds me of some of the gun magazines I read when I was in Ireland back in the 90s. Their version of the NRA was a sad, castrated, brow beaten, do nothing of a group. Fast forward 20+ years and I see parallels, here (edit, here in this country) No. I see it right here on this site as well. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 5:32:34 PM EST
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Welcome aboard boys. It's always an odd moment, when you find out that you're the bad guys ??
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Posted: 9/7/2024 5:39:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm about as close to ungovernable as you will find. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 5:44:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you guys received any pushback from your command? Has any of this affected your careers outside of the Guard? I own my own business, so it has not effected my business. There is push back from the very top of command, but everything from my Brigade CO who is a full bird on down has been amazingly supportive. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 5:48:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you get the vaccine? Hell No!!! Battalion CO said "Get vaxxed or get out." I said "I will not be vaccinated nor under any circumstance will I leave uniformed military service" They dropped the issue |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 5:51:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I own my own business, so it has not effected my business. There is push back from the very top of command, but everything from my Brigade CO who is a full bird on down has been amazingly supportive. Good luck, bro.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 5:54:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oath to Constitution > Chain of Command This we’ll defend!^^^^^^ |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 6:08:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While a great sentiment, the powers that be on this site are very risk/bad image averse and this will never happen. Reminds me of some of the gun magazines I read when I was in Ireland back in the 90s. Their version of the NRA was a sad, castrated, brow beaten, do nothing of a group. Fast forward 20+ years and I see parallels, here (edit, here in this country) Never say never. While I agree with your assessment it "could" be done. It would take a little effort for sure. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 6:16:02 PM EST
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Dan you are checking all the right boxes with your replies.
And according Google Campbell county is only about 2hrs away. 
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Posted: 9/7/2024 6:32:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dan you are checking all the right boxes with your replies. And according Google Campbell county is only about 2hrs away. CCM next monthly meeting is 19 September 47 courthouse ln Rustburg VA Start time is 1830. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 6:56:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: CCM next monthly meeting is 19 September 47 courthouse ln Rustburg VA Start time is 1830. The 19th is a Thursday. I work M-F. Do y'all ever have meet ups on the weekends? You seem like a pretty open guy but if you'd prefer we can take this PM. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 7:05:49 PM EST
[#38]
Best new members in a long time.
Prayers up for them and all men who defend our country and our Constitution. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 7:08:35 PM EST
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Active discussion on Signal right now. See link above. Thanks to both SSGs.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 7:08:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes Sir. A Maryland boy sort of terminated Lincoln for his war crimes against the south. "Sic Semper Tyrannis" he said. That's the Virginia motto and it is on the state flag. Best state flag there is of any state. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes Sir. A Maryland boy sort of terminated Lincoln for his war crimes against the south. "Sic Semper Tyrannis" he said. That's the Virginia motto and it is on the state flag. Best state flag there is of any state. Not ALL new members, of course. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 7:13:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The 19th is a Thursday. I work M-F. Do y'all ever have meet ups on the weekends? You seem like a pretty open guy but if you'd prefer we can take this PM. You're good man, we're not hiding anything we're an overtly public organization. Our trainings are on the weekend. Usually I require people to come to a meeting before I allow them to attend a training but I can make exceptions to that rule. I do require a signed code of conduct and a signed liability release form. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 7:14:37 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Everything good in this country has always started in Virginia. South Carolina has entered the chat… ?? |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 7:20:46 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're good man, we're not hiding anything we're an overtly public organization. Our trainings are on the weekend. Usually I require people to come to a meeting before I allow them to attend a training but I can make exceptions to that rule. I do require a signed code of conduct and a signed liability release form. Not a problem. Get that to me however you'd like. What is the "signal site" that a previous member mentioned a discussion? |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 7:25:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're good man, we're not hiding anything we're an overtly public organization. Our trainings are on the weekend. Usually I require people to come to a meeting before I allow them to attend a training but I can make exceptions to that rule. I do require a signed code of conduct and a signed liability release form. Tagging for interest. Rustburg is three hours from me unfortunately but there are plenty of good folks up here in the Fairfax/Loudoun/PW area. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 7:27:22 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok.. well while we see what higher up on this site says, anyone who is serious about getting a constitutional militia started in their locality can join this group on Signal. I'll share all the documents we use and answer any questions yall have. https://signal.group/#CjQKIM-0imZMc1ugYZYXbGZXVBalIX3DJj4vjHneTCu7aRmPEhBbZMGdS5NibjYgvl6QeWss Hopefully this works |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 7:29:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If he was serious, he would have kept his mouth shut. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Looks like he's serious not the usual 350lb + militia member Keeping your mouth shut is good for OPSEC but poor for putting together more than a handful of dudes. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 7:30:48 PM EST
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Posted: 9/7/2024 7:33:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, looks like OP got ahead of me. So I'll go ahead and give my take. Dan is one of my good friends, and yes, I'm a member of that militia. I know some peeps here sneer at the idea of the militia, which is kind of...contradictory since the word (and concept) is central to the clause in the Constitution that this entire site centers on. Weird. We've been doing it (mostly) right in VA. CCM's model is to be intentionally forward facing because the problem with secret squirrel shit is that, well, it's secret. It's not exactly the best way to inspire a movement. Yes, that carries risks. I sure am glad our Founding Fathers weren't as risk averse as so many of my fellow countrymen today. Our training program is top notch--monthly corporate FTX's, often with breakout/individual skillset building sessions and seminars in between, like basic radio operation and even stuff like legal use of force, which is a required class for everyone in the militia. Everything is taught by actual SME's, not dudes who saw a Youtube video and think they can teach react to contact (though if that's all you have to work with, it's absolutely better than not training at all). We are blessed with ridiculous training resources. If they're coming after guys like Dan, be concerned. Be very fucking concerned. In the past, they've picked easy targets that are painful to defend, like neo-Nazi's or Patriot front dipshits stealing weapons from armories. This journalist is trying to destroy a good family. Dan and Alex are some of the highest quality individuals in this nation. Much of the activism in Virginia--a huge part of whatever success we've enjoyed the past 4 years in the 2A movement in this state--is due to their efforts. They are well known (and, most importantly, liked) by many in the Guard, our state legislature, and even in congress. I don't know what I can and cannot say at this moment, but know that Dan and Alex need our help, and I hope you'll all join me in supporting this family. With this new attention on your group you need to be extremely cautious about who you accept into the group in the near future. Everybody "new "recruit needs to be throughly vetted. I'm talking down to kindergarten |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 7:39:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a "Threat"? Government seems super desperate for a boogie man right now. Quote HistoryQuoted: The publication found a pattern of Abbott issuing overt threats against the federal government and making it clear that his militia's mission is to potentially wage war. "Our own government is the greatest threat to our safety and security," Abbott said at one event earlier this year. "Power is akin to force. I would argue there are only two [forces] man has direct access to. One of those is violence … [and] the threat of violence." That's a "Threat"? Government seems super desperate for a boogie man right now. I wish I could find the video from a few years ago of a camera catching Nancy Pelosi ranting about the lack of violence from the right. She was legit pissed about it. They have a turn key plan to seize power, but just needs that catalyst from a manageable uprising to cover their actions. You saw a glimpse of System X on J6 where they tried like hell to manufacture it like they did in Turkey. The concern they have is the all the anger inducing actions might kick off something they cant control because arms controls have been the largest failure of the globalist movement in the country. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 7:39:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course it is. Journalism is all about connecting the dots to further an agenda. It does not matter if the dots are miles away from each other, they will be connected. In the same time frame this "journalist" went looking for extremism under rocks, "most peaceful" riots and mayhem was tearing apart the country on livestream. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The whole article is innuendo without any specific examples. Of course it is. Journalism is all about connecting the dots to further an agenda. It does not matter if the dots are miles away from each other, they will be connected. In the same time frame this "journalist" went looking for extremism under rocks, "most peaceful" riots and mayhem was tearing apart the country on livestream. The article also goes out of its way to remind the readers that the militia is “white”, while Virginia is becoming more “diverse”. |
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