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Posted: 7/17/2023 3:14:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. I have one double circle 10 that works in the PSA 101, but never use it as they're so damn expensive now. $15 AC Unity mags are the PMAG of the 5.56 AK world  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I’ve had my SLR-106FR since 2007, and I had the forethought to buy a small pile of Bulgarian waffle mags back then too. The mags are the real consideration… and I’d maybe go with the Beryl/Mini Beryl these days. The SAM5 AR-M5F is pretty cool too though. Get some AC Unity 5.56 mags for your 106… Work fine, and cost like $15 or less. No more worries about cracking an expensive Bulgarian mag. Yup. I have one double circle 10 that works in the PSA 101, but never use it as they're so damn expensive now. $15 AC Unity mags are the PMAG of the 5.56 AK world AC Unity are certainly great for the money. I'll be getting a handful of PSA's new steel feedlips mags that look like 74 mags when funds allow. DETAILS Black Polymer Construction Mil-Spec Caliber: 5.56x45mm 30 Round Capacity Steel Reinforcements Front and Back Steel Feed Lips Steel Locking Lugs FEATURES These Soviet Arms AK-556 Polymer Magazines are steel reinforced to the front and rear of the mag. They include steel feed lips and steel locking lugs. Magazine has a 30 round capacity and is made in the USA. *Due to a wide variety of manufacturing specifications, these magazines may need to be fitted to your gun. 
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Posted: 7/17/2023 3:18:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Arsenal SAM-5.......works like a champ and is accurate also have an SLR106fr and its been great as well factory mags $40-$45 & AC unity mags $13 they are great solid rifles but if I didn't already have these I would go with a Galil |
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Posted: 7/17/2023 4:23:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: @Jman_JJE @palmettostatearmory PLEASE make a PSA AK-102/AK-101 with a 13.7"/14.5" 1/2x28 barrel!!  We are planning a big 4th quarter push on 101/102 and those configurations are on the list. Right now we are ramping up the Sabre-10, expanding the catalog on JAKL, getting ready to launch the micro dagger, spinning up Soviet steel case ammo and launching 6.5cm/308. The table is full, but we see the need. Thanks, Jamin |
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Posted: 7/17/2023 4:27:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are planning a big 4th quarter push on 101/102 and those configurations are on the list. Right now we are ramping up the Sabre-10, expanding the catalog on JAKL, getting ready to launch the micro dagger, spinning up Soviet steel case ammo and launching 6.5cm/308. The table is full, but we see the need. Thanks, Jamin Psa is amazing |
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Posted: 7/17/2023 5:01:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are planning a big 4th quarter push on 101/102 and those configurations are on the list. Right now we are ramping up the Sabre-10, expanding the catalog on JAKL, getting ready to launch the micro dagger, spinning up Soviet steel case ammo and launching 6.5cm/308. The table is full, but we see the need. Thanks, Jamin Awesome thank you for the update |
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Posted: 7/17/2023 5:10:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are planning a big 4th quarter push on 101/102 and those configurations are on the list. Right now we are ramping up the Sabre-10, expanding the catalog on JAKL, getting ready to launch the micro dagger, spinning up Soviet steel case ammo and launching 6.5cm/308. The table is full, but we see the need. Thanks, Jamin Thanks for the response Jamin! Sincerely, Loyal PSA Customer |
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Posted: 7/17/2023 8:39:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Psa is amazing Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We are planning a big 4th quarter push on 101/102 and those configurations are on the list. Right now we are ramping up the Sabre-10, expanding the catalog on JAKL, getting ready to launch the micro dagger, spinning up Soviet steel case ammo and launching 6.5cm/308. The table is full, but we see the need. Thanks, Jamin Psa is amazing Agreed. |
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Posted: 7/17/2023 8:58:13 PM EDT
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I built one on my own with a Bulgarian AK74 kit and a AK Builder barrel and a Nodak receiver.
Works great with AC Unity mags. Dirt cheap. Fun gun. |
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Posted: 7/17/2023 9:02:09 PM EDT
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762x39 will be going away except for overpriced American stuff. A case has already gotten more expensive that 556. I may buy a 556 AK soon.
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Posted: 7/18/2023 7:54:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 762x39 will be going away except for overpriced American stuff. A case has already gotten more expensive that 556. I may buy a 556 AK soon. Ammo prices flipping on their heads got me into a PSA AK101. I already had an AK102 clone built on a Saiga before the Russian import ban made the base rifles quadruple in price. I gave up on getting a 101 until PSA's became available. I decided I would save my foreign 5.45 and 7.62 stashes for another day and start using a full size 5.56 AK to scratch the COMBLOC itch without having to buy ammo that's expensive for what it is from an accuracy/consistency perspective. ETA: I'm set up to reload all three calibers, but 5.56 is far cheaper to reload and makes switching most of my AK time to a 5.56 AK an even better idea. |
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Posted: 7/18/2023 11:37:49 AM EDT
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I can't remember what thread, but I believe it was in the PSA industry forum, it was revealed that one of the founders of PSA is a big AK fan, which was the reason for them getting into building AKs to begin with.
What made that thread memorable for me was a list of AK and AK based rifles they have tentative plans to produce. On that list was a rifle I have long lusted after.  Attached File Yes please! Since then, I have watched the development of PSAs AK production very closely. Not because I think this rifle will start production anywhere resembling soon, rather seeing how PSA is ironing out how to produce quality rifles and working out bugs in the production process. For a rifle with a reputation for being super simple and crude, producing a quality rifle is surprisingly complex. I am content to watch them perfect their ability to make this type of rifle so that by the time they get to producing the Valmet variant(s), they'll have it down to science and produce a very high quality version comparable to the originals. |
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Posted: 7/18/2023 1:40:34 PM EDT
[#12]
Anyone have a good source for Circle 10 amber mags? I have one 20 rounder I've come to appreciate
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Posted: 7/18/2023 1:50:53 PM EDT
[#13]
A first Generation Galil ACE in 5.56 is probably the highest quality AK you can find, short of a SIG 551.
But neither are very traditional AK, at least looks wise Pair of ACEs - hence the screen name 
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Posted: 7/18/2023 8:57:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I built one from a Tantal and arsenal barrel then welded and remachined the front trunnion to take Galil mags like whoever the first asshole to make 5.56 AKs should have done. LOL...Guerilla Machinist in action. If only you lived closer. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 12:06:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't remember what thread, but I believe it was in the PSA industry forum, it was revealed that one of the founders of PSA is a big AK fan, which was the reason for them getting into building AKs to begin with. What made that thread memorable for me was a list of AK and AK based rifles they have tentative plans to produce. On that list was a rifle I have long lusted after. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77917/012EC47C-152E-4755-A4E4-191530C85884_jpe-2890192.JPG Yes please! Since then, I have watched the development of PSAs AK production very closely. Not because I think this rifle will start production anywhere resembling soon, rather seeing how PSA is ironing out how to produce quality rifles and working out bugs in the production process. For a rifle with a reputation for being super simple and crude, producing a quality rifle is surprisingly complex. I am content to watch them perfect their ability to make this type of rifle so that by the time they get to producing the Valmet variant(s), they'll have it down to science and produce a very high quality version comparable to the originals. Woah I had no idea they planned on making Valmets having one with that tube stock has always been a dream. My dads best friend had a couple of Valmets and that’s what got me into AKs trying to itch that urge to own one since. I hope they do it soon I cannot wait |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 12:07:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A first Generation Galil ACE in 5.56 is probably the highest quality AK you can find, short of a SIG 551. But neither are very traditional AK, at least looks wise Pair of ACEs - hence the screen name https://i.ibb.co/yFgLgx5/186-E365-A-5-BB6-4-DA3-BE7-C-DC071-D33820-C.jpg A Galil is actually pretty high on my list I may have to just get it now to fill both needs. Damn so many options and not enough money |
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Posted: 7/21/2023 11:22:20 PM EDT
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@Jman_JJE @palmettostatearmory
I shot a five shot group measuring 1.31 inches (edge to edge) from my PSA AK 101 today, from the bench at 100 yds. I am not Molon. He would have shot a tighter group, and provided better, more scientific data. Five shot groups are not adequate to determine the true accuracy of a gun. An excellent group from a single gun is not statistically worth mentioning. But if you had told me that an American made 5.56 AK, that was purchased for $649 (on sale) could shoot a 1.31 inch, five shot group at 100 yds, I'd have said you were on drugs. Weather:  4 inch circle:  Caliper measurement and ammo used:   I purchased this gun on 6-13-23. It is no longer stock. https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ak-101-classic-polymer-rifle-w-toolcraft-trunnion-bolt-carrier-and-10-magazines.html I added an MI Alpha Rail when PA had them on sale. I just added a PA SLX 1-6 FFP LVPO mounted on a Master mount side mount (long). I added a Rifle Dynamics M4 Stock adaptor so that I had the right eye relief to use the scope properly. I added a Krebs Custom BHO safety. I did not change the trigger. I am using AC Unity 5.56 AK magazines. Negatives: There is some slight peening/mushrooming on the tail of the BCG/Op Rod. I only have 420 rds through the gun. There has been one FTF with a light primer strike, but I blame myself for that as I believe I rode the bolt home and didnt allow the gun to operate properly. The round the gun did not fire originally was reinserted into the magazine, allowed to chamber properly and fired just fine immediately afterwards. It is overgassed, tears the crap out of the rim of the ammo while extracting, and flings brass into the next zip code. I may be able to reload the brass one or two time again, but twice is risking a torn rim and having to extract a broken case from the chamber. This gun is ALOT of fun to shoot. It is far flatter shooting than my 7.62x39 AK's. |
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Posted: 7/21/2023 11:57:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Jman_JJE @palmettostatearmory I shot a five shot group measuring 1.31 inches (edge to edge) from my PSA AK 101 today, from the bench at 100 yds. I am not Molon. He would have shot a tighter group, and provided better, more scientific data. Five shot groups are not adequate to determine the true accuracy of a gun. An excellent group from a single gun is not statistically worth mentioning. But if you had told me that an American made 5.56 AK, that was purchased for $649 (on sale) could shoot a 1.31 inch, five shot group at 100 yds, I'd have said you were on drugs. Weather: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/199644/Weather-2893835.jpg 4 inch circle: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/199644/Pic_1-2893837.jpg Caliper measurement and ammo used: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/199644/Pic_2-2893838.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/199644/Ammo-2893836.jpg I purchased this gun on 6-13-23. It is no longer stock. https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ak-101-classic-polymer-rifle-w-toolcraft-trunnion-bolt-carrier-and-10-magazines.html I added an MI Alpha Rail when PA had them on sale. I just added a PA SLX 1-6 FFP LVPO mounted on a Master mount side mount (long). I added a Rifle Dynamics M4 Stock adaptor so that I had the right eye relief to use the scope properly. I added a Krebs Custom BHO safety. I did not change the trigger. I am using AC Unity 5.56 AK magazines. Negatives: There is some slight peening/mushrooming on the tail of the BCG/Op Rod. I only have 420 rds through the gun. There has been one FTF with a light primer strike, but I blame myself for that as I believe I rode the bolt home and didnt allow the gun to operate properly. The round the gun did not fire originally was reinserted into the magazine, allowed to chamber properly and fired just fine immediately afterwards. It is overgassed, tears the crap out of the rim of the ammo while extracting, and flings brass into the next zip code. I may be able to reload the brass one or two time again, but twice is risking a torn rim and having to extract a broken case from the chamber. This gun is ALOT of fun to shoot. It is far flatter shooting than my 7.62x39 AK's. I love the 101 look, and wish Arsenal wasn't the only importer of 100 series looking AK's. That said one of the reasons I love the ZPAP M90 is the adjustable gas system. It's such a light shooting gun on setting one, and something that I think all commercial AK's should have. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 12:52:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Jman_JJE @palmettostatearmory I shot a five shot group measuring 1.31 inches (edge to edge) from my PSA AK 101 today, from the bench at 100 yds. I am not Molon. He would have shot a tighter group, and provided better, more scientific data. Five shot groups are not adequate to determine the true accuracy of a gun. An excellent group from a single gun is not statistically worth mentioning. But if you had told me that an American made 5.56 AK, that was purchased for $649 (on sale) could shoot a 1.31 inch, five shot group at 100 yds, I'd have said you were on drugs. Weather: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/199644/Weather-2893835.jpg 4 inch circle: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/199644/Pic_1-2893837.jpg Caliper measurement and ammo used: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/199644/Pic_2-2893838.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/199644/Ammo-2893836.jpg I purchased this gun on 6-13-23. It is no longer stock. https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ak-101-classic-polymer-rifle-w-toolcraft-trunnion-bolt-carrier-and-10-magazines.html I added an MI Alpha Rail when PA had them on sale. I just added a PA SLX 1-6 FFP LVPO mounted on a Master mount side mount (long). I added a Rifle Dynamics M4 Stock adaptor so that I had the right eye relief to use the scope properly. I added a Krebs Custom BHO safety. I did not change the trigger. I am using AC Unity 5.56 AK magazines. Negatives: There is some slight peening/mushrooming on the tail of the BCG/Op Rod. I only have 420 rds through the gun. There has been one FTF with a light primer strike, but I blame myself for that as I believe I rode the bolt home and didnt allow the gun to operate properly. The round the gun did not fire originally was reinserted into the magazine, allowed to chamber properly and fired just fine immediately afterwards. It is overgassed, tears the crap out of the rim of the ammo while extracting, and flings brass into the next zip code. I may be able to reload the brass one or two time again, but twice is risking a torn rim and having to extract a broken case from the chamber. This gun is ALOT of fun to shoot. It is far flatter shooting than my 7.62x39 AK's. That’s awesome I don’t know they could be that accurate |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 12:53:52 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I love the 101 look, and wish Arsenal wasn't the only importer of 100 series looking AK's. That said one of the reasons I love the ZPAP M90 is the adjustable gas system. It's such a light shooting gun on setting one, and something that I think all commercial AK's should have. How often is the gas block adjustments really used? I’m stuck on what to pick hahaha |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 12:55:58 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted: I’m thinking of getting a 5.56 ak, I’m not sure which to get I’m leaning to the beryl right now any advice? Or anything else I should look for? Something by Zastava. They are the best thing going in AK's now. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 12:57:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How often is the gas block adjustments really used? I’m stuck on what to pick hahaha Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I love the 101 look, and wish Arsenal wasn't the only importer of 100 series looking AK's. That said one of the reasons I love the ZPAP M90 is the adjustable gas system. It's such a light shooting gun on setting one, and something that I think all commercial AK's should have. How often is the gas block adjustments really used? I’m stuck on what to pick hahaha I leave mine on setting 1 unless I'm shooting in the winter, cheap Russian ammo short strokes around 20* so I have to change it to setting two. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 2:12:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How often is the gas block adjustments really used? I’m stuck on what to pick hahaha Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I love the 101 look, and wish Arsenal wasn't the only importer of 100 series looking AK's. That said one of the reasons I love the ZPAP M90 is the adjustable gas system. It's such a light shooting gun on setting one, and something that I think all commercial AK's should have. How often is the gas block adjustments really used? I’m stuck on what to pick hahaha At Kalashni-con I saw a bunch of 556 AK’s have problems being over gassed. Having either an adjustable gas block or gas piston can be helpful. if you’re not going to use a suppressor, and you’re not worried about dialing in the gun to have the softest recoil,(competition), I’m not sure it’s necessary for your needs. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 3:42:57 AM EDT
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I’d like a modernized rk62. What the Finns are/were doing
If PSA offers a 14.5/13.9/13.7 556 AK with the muzzle device pinned, I would be all over it. Same with a ‘39 AK. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 4:26:26 AM EDT
[#25]
First time I saw a mini Beryl was here in Iraq. The Pole carrying it probably would have thought it was weird if I'd walked up to him and told him how adorable it was
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Posted: 7/22/2023 4:34:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:45:40 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted: @Jman_JJE @palmettostatearmory I shot a five shot group measuring 1.31 inches (edge to edge) from my PSA AK 101 today, from the bench at 100 yds. I am not Molon. He would have shot a tighter group, and provided better, more scientific data. Five shot groups are not adequate to determine the true accuracy of a gun. An excellent group from a single gun is not statistically worth mentioning. But if you had told me that an American made 5.56 AK, that was purchased for $649 (on sale) could shoot a 1.31 inch, five shot group at 100 yds, I'd have said you were on drugs. Weather: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/199644/Weather-2893835.jpg 4 inch circle: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/199644/Pic_1-2893837.jpg Caliper measurement and ammo used: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/199644/Pic_2-2893838.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/199644/Ammo-2893836.jpg I purchased this gun on 6-13-23. It is no longer stock. https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ak-101-classic-polymer-rifle-w-toolcraft-trunnion-bolt-carrier-and-10-magazines.html I added an MI Alpha Rail when PA had them on sale. I just added a PA SLX 1-6 FFP LVPO mounted on a Master mount side mount (long). I added a Rifle Dynamics M4 Stock adaptor so that I had the right eye relief to use the scope properly. I added a Krebs Custom BHO safety. I did not change the trigger. I am using AC Unity 5.56 AK magazines. Negatives: There is some slight peening/mushrooming on the tail of the BCG/Op Rod. I only have 420 rds through the gun. There has been one FTF with a light primer strike, but I blame myself for that as I believe I rode the bolt home and didnt allow the gun to operate properly. The round the gun did not fire originally was reinserted into the magazine, allowed to chamber properly and fired just fine immediately afterwards. It is overgassed, tears the crap out of the rim of the ammo while extracting, and flings brass into the next zip code. I may be able to reload the brass one or two time again, but twice is risking a torn rim and having to extract a broken case from the chamber. This gun is ALOT of fun to shoot. It is far flatter shooting than my 7.62x39 AK's. Great shooting! Thanks for your business and the feedback |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:50:29 AM EDT
[#28]
wrong thread
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Posted: 7/22/2023 12:27:51 PM EDT
[#29]
Thank you everyone there is a lot of info here and a lot more options than I knew were out there
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Posted: 7/22/2023 12:49:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d like a modernized rk62. What the Finns are/were doing If PSA offers a 14.5/13.9/13.7 556 AK with the muzzle device pinned, I would be all over it. Same with a ‘39 AK. Do you mean a SAKO RK95?  Supposedly that rifle program cost the Finns too much money and was curtailed and commercial sales never materialized. There was some effort to modernize the RK62s but I don't know where that went. The end of the Cold War and tapering of defense spending in the 90s put a stop to a lot of their funding and interesting projects. "After the initial order by FDF (worth some 16 Million USD) for the new M95 and spare parts, no follow up orders have been planned, nor does there seem to be any funding for future orders. Sako delivered the last assault rifles to the FDF during 1997 and after that the production line will be closed. This in turn means that the production knowledge will eventually disappear and after only a few years it would be difficult to start producing again. Is Finnish assault rifle production “finished” for good?" I guess they did modernize some RK62s as the RK 62M3:  https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000008342187.html |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 1:03:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you mean a SAKO RK95? https://is.mediadelivery.fi/img/658/b616ba5b050f640b346801a016644a06.jpg.webp Supposedly that rifle program cost the Finns too much money and was curtailed and commercial sales never materialized. There was some effort to modernize the RK62s but I don't know where that went. The end of the Cold War and tapering of defense spending in the 90s put a stop to a lot of their funding and interesting projects. "After the initial order by FDF (worth some 16 Million USD) for the new M95 and spare parts, no follow up orders have been planned, nor does there seem to be any funding for future orders. Sako delivered the last assault rifles to the FDF during 1997 and after that the production line will be closed. This in turn means that the production knowledge will eventually disappear and after only a few years it would be difficult to start producing again. Is Finnish assault rifle production “finished” for good?" I guess they did modernize some RK62s as the RK 62M3: https://is.mediadelivery.fi/img/658/04e89431d39e216b486b1d170889aa9e.jpg.webp https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000008342187.html Sure, I'll take that too. But, I meant the rifle referenced in this article* Article  *I know little about Valmets fwiw. But, the rifle looks cool and that is good enough. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 1:09:59 PM EDT
[#32]
Damn it I need a Valmet, at this point I don’t care what kind they are just too damn sexy
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Posted: 7/22/2023 1:17:36 PM EDT
[#33]
556 AKs are awesome.
I got lucky on my $649 psa 101 and it's been great for 800 rounds so far. WBP, unity, circle 10, and psa 556 ak mags have all been good to go. I would probably get the beyrl 556 if I grabbed another. I think those would be rock solid and only increase in value. Honestly I should probably offload something to make room for one considering how much fun the psa is. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 1:45:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 556 AKs are awesome. I got lucky on my $649 psa 101 and it's been great for 800 rounds so far. WBP, unity, circle 10, and psa 556 ak mags have all been good to go. I would probably get the beyrl 556 if I grabbed another. I think those would be rock solid and only increase in value. Honestly I should probably offload something to make room for one considering how much fun the psa is. I’m torn between the beryl and the m90 right now maybe the mini beryl |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 2:00:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Woah I had no idea they planned on making Valmets having one with that tube stock has always been a dream. My dads best friend had a couple of Valmets and that’s what got me into AKs trying to itch that urge to own one since. I hope they do it soon I cannot wait Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I can't remember what thread, but I believe it was in the PSA industry forum, it was revealed that one of the founders of PSA is a big AK fan, which was the reason for them getting into building AKs to begin with. What made that thread memorable for me was a list of AK and AK based rifles they have tentative plans to produce. On that list was a rifle I have long lusted after. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77917/012EC47C-152E-4755-A4E4-191530C85884_jpe-2890192.JPG Yes please! Since then, I have watched the development of PSAs AK production very closely. Not because I think this rifle will start production anywhere resembling soon, rather seeing how PSA is ironing out how to produce quality rifles and working out bugs in the production process. For a rifle with a reputation for being super simple and crude, producing a quality rifle is surprisingly complex. I am content to watch them perfect their ability to make this type of rifle so that by the time they get to producing the Valmet variant(s), they'll have it down to science and produce a very high quality version comparable to the originals. Woah I had no idea they planned on making Valmets having one with that tube stock has always been a dream. My dads best friend had a couple of Valmets and that’s what got me into AKs trying to itch that urge to own one since. I hope they do it soon I cannot wait I'd be all over a Valmet |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 3:00:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd be all over a Valmet Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I can't remember what thread, but I believe it was in the PSA industry forum, it was revealed that one of the founders of PSA is a big AK fan, which was the reason for them getting into building AKs to begin with. What made that thread memorable for me was a list of AK and AK based rifles they have tentative plans to produce. On that list was a rifle I have long lusted after. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77917/012EC47C-152E-4755-A4E4-191530C85884_jpe-2890192.JPG Yes please! Since then, I have watched the development of PSAs AK production very closely. Not because I think this rifle will start production anywhere resembling soon, rather seeing how PSA is ironing out how to produce quality rifles and working out bugs in the production process. For a rifle with a reputation for being super simple and crude, producing a quality rifle is surprisingly complex. I am content to watch them perfect their ability to make this type of rifle so that by the time they get to producing the Valmet variant(s), they'll have it down to science and produce a very high quality version comparable to the originals. Woah I had no idea they planned on making Valmets having one with that tube stock has always been a dream. My dads best friend had a couple of Valmets and that’s what got me into AKs trying to itch that urge to own one since. I hope they do it soon I cannot wait I'd be all over a Valmet I'd be all over a couple of them. Both tube folders. One in 5.56 the other in 7.62x39. The ones the Finns used were a bit different (different folding mechanism) and in 7.62x39. The 5.56 versions were specifically for the US market since at the time they were being imported, 7.62x39 ammo wasn't very common or popular here, so very few were imported and are Uber rare now I'd like to see (and buy) both calibers with the folder as imported to the US. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 5:47:40 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted: That’s awesome I don’t know they could be that accurate I didnt either, to be honest! Quoted: Great shooting! Thanks for your business and the feedback You're welcome. You guys caught some crap from youtubers when these were launched. I myself have not experienced the issues that they complained about and felt that was important to share. The ridiculous group it shot was an unexpected bonus. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:04:57 PM EDT
[#38]
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Posted: 7/23/2023 7:23:09 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: that's it. east german weiger mags. those worked reliably in sar3's and saigas with linx310 bullet guides installed. always being honest with pg conversion kits and 922r parts count was fun. Quote HistoryQuoted: that's it. east german weiger mags. those worked reliably in sar3's and saigas with linx310 bullet guides installed. always being honest with pg conversion kits and 922r parts count was fun. 922r and parts count…now that’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time. When $600 Saigas no longer became a thing the AK game got turned on it’s head. |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 7:41:23 AM EDT
[#40]
Galil Ace 2 in 5.56 is pure awesomeness.
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Posted: 7/23/2023 7:49:54 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd be all over a couple of them. Both tube folders. One in 5.56 the other in 7.62x39. The ones the Finns used were a bit different (different folding mechanism) and in 7.62x39. The 5.56 versions were specifically for the US market since at the time they were being imported, 7.62x39 ammo wasn't very common or popular here, so very few were imported and are Uber rare now I'd like to see (and buy) both calibers with the folder as imported to the US. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I can't remember what thread, but I believe it was in the PSA industry forum, it was revealed that one of the founders of PSA is a big AK fan, which was the reason for them getting into building AKs to begin with. What made that thread memorable for me was a list of AK and AK based rifles they have tentative plans to produce. On that list was a rifle I have long lusted after. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77917/012EC47C-152E-4755-A4E4-191530C85884_jpe-2890192.JPG Yes please! Since then, I have watched the development of PSAs AK production very closely. Not because I think this rifle will start production anywhere resembling soon, rather seeing how PSA is ironing out how to produce quality rifles and working out bugs in the production process. For a rifle with a reputation for being super simple and crude, producing a quality rifle is surprisingly complex. I am content to watch them perfect their ability to make this type of rifle so that by the time they get to producing the Valmet variant(s), they'll have it down to science and produce a very high quality version comparable to the originals. Woah I had no idea they planned on making Valmets having one with that tube stock has always been a dream. My dads best friend had a couple of Valmets and that’s what got me into AKs trying to itch that urge to own one since. I hope they do it soon I cannot wait I'd be all over a Valmet I'd be all over a couple of them. Both tube folders. One in 5.56 the other in 7.62x39. The ones the Finns used were a bit different (different folding mechanism) and in 7.62x39. The 5.56 versions were specifically for the US market since at the time they were being imported, 7.62x39 ammo wasn't very common or popular here, so very few were imported and are Uber rare now I'd like to see (and buy) both calibers with the folder as imported to the US. In the movie Firefox, the Soviet guards in the aircraft hangars carried Valmet rifles If PSA produces them, I'll be on the hook for a couple as well |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 8:21:31 AM EDT
[#42]
Aks in 5.56 tend to suck. Bolt failures used to be common.
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Posted: 7/23/2023 8:22:49 AM EDT
[#43]
Love them
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Posted: 7/23/2023 8:38:44 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Aks in 5.56 tend to suck. Bolt failures used to be common. What exactly does ‘bolt failures’ entail and which 5.56 AKs were they happening in? I used to big into the AK world in 2008-2014 when $600 Saigas and the RGuns kits were a thing and don’t remember hearing about a bunch of ‘bolt failures’ in 5.56 AKs. @whiskerz |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 8:56:25 AM EDT
[#45]
SLR106F
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:01:08 AM EDT
[#46]
I had 3 milled SAM-5s in 5.56mm. They shot under 1.75 moa, unlike my Arsenal SLR-106 which shot 3.5 moa.
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:02:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/23/2023 1:46:21 PM EDT
[#48]
Thank you everyone
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Posted: 7/24/2023 11:26:31 AM EDT
[#49]
Valmet/SAKO will probably never produce another AK. The production line was shut down 25 years ago and they're all in on the AR train now (pending the outcome of the H&K lawsuit).
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Posted: 7/24/2023 11:24:02 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Valmet/SAKO will probably never produce another AK. The production line was shut down 25 years ago and they're all in on the AR train now (pending the outcome of the H&K lawsuit). That’s pretty damn depressing |
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