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Posted: 12/19/2018 7:46:42 PM EDT
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Well, that and it’s, you know, Ohio.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The only issue with Ohio... I'm not sure shorty shotguns like the Tac-14 and Shockwave are legal there...
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Posted: 12/19/2018 10:33:49 PM EDT
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The only issue with Ohio... I'm not sure shorty shotguns like the Tac-14 and Shockwave are legal there... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The editor of Firearms News is a huge retro guy. Got his first AR-15 in 1979 and his first job in the gun industry was building AR-15s from kits when he was a teenager in the early 80s. I heard that he was looking to do a Retro 3-Gun event in Ohio next year. https://files.osgnetworks.tv/12/files/2018/07/Issue-13-retro-cover-.jpg |
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Posted: 12/19/2018 10:45:06 PM EDT
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I go there once a year to machinegun folks on a beach....
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The only issue with Ohio... I'm not sure shorty shotguns like the Tac-14 and Shockwave are legal there...
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Posted: 12/20/2018 5:57:42 AM EDT
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I go there once a year to machinegun folks on a beach....
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The only issue with Ohio... I'm not sure shorty shotguns like the Tac-14 and Shockwave are legal there...
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Posted: 12/20/2018 8:33:09 AM EDT
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Hate to say it... but your beach sucks. No scantily clad women in tiny bikinis and g-strings. 
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Posted: 12/20/2018 11:15:13 AM EDT
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Hate to say it... but your beach sucks. No scantily clad women in tiny bikinis and g-strings.  Family Guy - DD-Day |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 10:33:24 AM EDT
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Gotta have a stage with ninja targets.
Ninja bad guys were everywhere in the 70s and 80s. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 10:46:11 AM EDT
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Gotta have a stage with ninja targets. Ninja bad guys were everywhere in the 70s and 80s.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:38:39 AM EDT
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Gotta have a stage with ninja targets. Ninja bad guys were everywhere in the 70s and 80s. 
Also how can we forget Cpl. Jackson in American Ninja. 
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Posted: 12/23/2018 11:10:54 AM EDT
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Randy Weaver's arrest.... but just look at the gear and layout.
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Posted: 12/30/2018 1:43:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/30/2018 3:18:06 AM EDT
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https://images1.miaminewtimes.com/imager/u/745xauto/9420672/cocaine_cowboys_rakontur.jpg http://flashbackmiami.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/5-08282012-10001281AA-450x695.jpg http://flashbackmiami.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/1-11292012-120000081AA-450x664.jpg https://68.media.tumblr.com/bf19311fc8a1593696f61a1823e5f813/tumblr_o5ynugBRxu1v5s2p6o1_1280.jpg |
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Posted: 12/30/2018 5:05:35 AM EDT
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I have several excellent small arms of the 70s - 90s. I'll even travel to Miami to shoot in a match. I would of course bring a SPAS-12, MP5, AUG A2, and a West German P226 
Will there be a mandatory shoulder holster stage? There should be, and we'll need simulated dump truck doors. 
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Posted: 12/30/2018 6:27:00 AM EDT
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Do I get to wear a pastel sport jacket, white canvas pants, and Sperry topsiders? If so I’ll go get my 1006 |
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Posted: 12/30/2018 6:30:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Ohio Attorney General has stated that there will be no prosecutions regarding these "shotguns" and they are also made here by Ithaca and sold at most shops. The attorney General just won governor and will sign the legislation after it goes through one more time - already passed but liberal Kasich won't sign it. Ohio has all Republican majorities now and has one of the strongest state gun rights organizations in the country. At one time, Ohio was only second to Texas in machine gun ownership. I don't really see much in the way of a Retro completion with shockwave type shotguns. |
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Posted: 12/30/2018 9:10:29 AM EDT
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your dad's mustache looks like Colonel Bella's from Red Dawn Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 12/30/2018 10:17:19 AM EDT
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Couples Stage: Engage multiple targets from a stairwell.
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Posted: 12/30/2018 10:29:31 AM EDT
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Playing with guns of a specific genre is one thing. LARPing in costumes is another. I would only want the gun part. |
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Posted: 12/30/2018 6:29:50 PM EDT
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I just watched an episode of Simon & Simon last night where they have to rescue their friend by a place with a lot of armed security. Rick had an AR-180 with a 30-round mag and AJ a police-style shotgun, an 870, I think, with revolvers for sidearms. Another episode I saw a few days ago had them getting in a shootout with Rick having a belt full of magazines for his 1911.
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Posted: 12/30/2018 7:10:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/31/2018 9:03:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By @exilefromhell:
 Now that is something that for sure must be in the match! |
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Posted: 12/31/2018 9:16:07 AM EDT
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Man, that was a damned shame. May a pox curse VLTOR. I have an Uzi. This thread gives me an idea for the 2019 Arizona PCC Championships  Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:Oh I know. I especially don't get how VLTOR dropped that ball. not like it was even that cool to begin with.... I have an Uzi. This thread gives me an idea for the 2019 Arizona PCC Championships if it was just around and people could go buy it, you can be sure a bunch of "people" would say things like "just get the Glock 20" or some other garbage. VLTOR saved those people that heresy and kept the Bren 10 an untarnished legend All that said...they should make them |
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Posted: 12/31/2018 9:23:54 AM EDT
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Over time I think what VLTOR done is noble if it was just around and people could go buy it, you can be sure a bunch of "people" would say things like "just get the Glock 20" or some other garbage. VLTOR saved those people that heresy and kept the Bren 10 an untarnished legend All that said...they should make them Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted:Oh I know. I especially don't get how VLTOR dropped that ball. not like it was even that cool to begin with.... I have an Uzi. This thread gives me an idea for the 2019 Arizona PCC Championships if it was just around and people could go buy it, you can be sure a bunch of "people" would say things like "just get the Glock 20" or some other garbage. VLTOR saved those people that heresy and kept the Bren 10 an untarnished legend All that said...they should make them Lucky for VLTOR, they saw the market truths and said fuck that. We aren't dumping money into shit that won't sell. |
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Posted: 12/31/2018 9:39:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/31/2018 9:47:54 AM EDT
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@Miami_JBT I believe this was filmed in your AO.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeshhQehpwo?list=PLu5nT6HgX-Pwbk3nimp7-1ebNYhXhBqSx
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Posted: 12/31/2018 10:28:40 AM EDT
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For those of us with either Shockwaves or Tac14s.... this is how the US Marshals used to run their "witness protection" shotguns
 Attached FileThe key to this system was the design of the sling. The designers utilized an M1 Carbine sling with a quick-release snap that was mounted to the hand stop. The shotgun could be slung under a jacket in an upside-down configuration. To present the shotgun, the user would grasp the forend with his or her support hand, reach across their body and unsnap the sling. This freed the shotgun, and the support hand pulled the gun from under the jacket for a reasonably efficient presentation. |
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Posted: 12/31/2018 11:39:48 AM EDT
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For those of us with either Shockwaves or Tac14s.... this is how the US Marshals used to run their "witness protection" shotguns https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/7785/Wilson-Witness-Protection-870-5_jpg-791185.JPG If they're releasing the front, it looks like the snap button could easily snag the slot in the front swivel and get stuck, or the rest of the sling could get stuck on clothing as they drag that out with the weapon. Is there a video or better description of the deployment somewhere? As a teenager, I rigged a sling like that for a similar 870 AOW and underarm carried it concealed under my strong arm, but I just reached across with my support hand and released a Fastex buckle, which seems way faster than the above description. Anyway, I quickly learned that carrying/deploying an MP5K from the Eagle shoulder harnesses was a much better solution.
It sucked having that heavy 870 flop around under a coat, and there was nothing on my support side to counterbalance the weight. The MP5K with 2x 30rd mags as counterweights only got weird if I ran, but I could deal with it. Still ended up going back to a P226 pistol though. |
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Posted: 12/31/2018 11:59:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Miami_JBT I believe this was filmed in your AO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeshhQehpwo?list=PLu5nT6HgX-Pwbk3nimp7-1ebNYhXhBqSx
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Posted: 12/31/2018 2:18:51 PM EDT
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That doesn't sound "reasonably efficient" at all. Did USMS carry the gun slung on their support side? I'm trying to picture that release sequence in my mind, but the rear Uncle Mike sling swivel is difficult to remove, because the release must be pushed, rotated, and then the stud slid free of the peg. That's a fairly slow operation in this setting. If they're releasing the front, it looks like the snap button could easily snag the slot in the front swivel and get stuck, or the rest of the sling could get stuck on clothing as they drag that out with the weapon. Are there better slings today? Sure! But we're doing 80s here... remember?
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Posted: 12/31/2018 4:24:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By @exilefromhell: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12878/_20181226_174454_JPG-786437.jpg Now that is something that for sure must be in the match! Period-correct autoloading shotguns allowed, select-fire allowed, “period-correct” accessories like lasers, integral optics and bipods allowed.
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Posted: 1/2/2019 2:31:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/2/2019 3:02:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/2/2019 3:08:39 PM EDT
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LOL. A lot of those gun blogs would dry up without ARFCOM threads to regurgitate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
LOL. A lot of those gun blogs would dry up without ARFCOM threads to regurgitate. That's my article that I wrote specifically to get the idea of this new sport off the ground. Not everyone is on Arfcom. But a number of people read TTAG. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 3:20:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/2/2019 3:21:41 PM EDT
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Just shared it on Facebook. Let's make this happen!
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Posted: 1/2/2019 3:24:46 PM EDT
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@KingRat That's my article that I wrote specifically to get the idea of this new sport off the ground. Not everyone is on Arfcom. But a number of people read TTAG.
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Posted: 1/2/2019 6:27:03 PM EDT
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Hell, I spoke with a couple of gun rights organizations to see if they want to help sponsor the match. They are interested since it is open to NFA items and the like since some of the other shooting sports are more restrictive.
The goal is fun for all and not making it gun golf where only pros compete as a sponsored team shooter. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 8:54:06 PM EDT
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I hope this comes to fruition.
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Posted: 1/2/2019 9:39:36 PM EDT
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I’m so freaking in on this!
My problem will be deciding what weapons to bring! ETA - I’d definitely be bringing this: 
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Posted: 1/2/2019 10:00:19 PM EDT
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I'm so freaking in on this! My problem will be deciding what weapons to bring! ETA - I'd definitely be bringing this: https://i.imgur.com/3U4sa2o.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tboMrbW.jpg (Just an SBR) |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 4:45:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/3/2019 5:16:16 PM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/110387/10703866_705280602885043_3728233011075011895_o_jpg-794901.JPG Couple of guys that came to a "zombie" shoot years ago. Sort of reminded me of this. |
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Posted: 1/4/2019 6:32:28 AM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/110387/10703866_705280602885043_3728233011075011895_o_jpg-794901.JPG Couple of guys that came to a "zombie" shoot years ago. Sort of reminded me of this. 
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Posted: 1/4/2019 8:05:14 AM EDT
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Miami Vice had lots of fun toys in their show over the years.
My favorite was the High Standard 10 shotguns from a couple of episodes... but really In It for the 90 round Snail Drum Magazine & B.F. Lazer Sighted AR... 
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Posted: 1/4/2019 8:22:13 AM EDT
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We need to commission a steel target in a donut shape to simulate a car tire. Can’t be retro-cop without shooting out a car tire, yo. It isn't the 70's - 80's if you don't have vehicles explode when you shoot the gas tank... |
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Posted: 1/4/2019 8:27:36 AM EDT
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Will female shooters be forced to grow a bush? This needs to be addressed 
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Posted: 1/4/2019 8:28:37 AM EDT
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What about the Shoot the Gas Tank - Explode the Vehicle shoot? It isn't the 70's - 80's if you don't have vehicles explode when you shoot the gas tank... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need to commission a steel target in a donut shape to simulate a car tire. Can’t be retro-cop without shooting out a car tire, yo. It isn't the 70's - 80's if you don't have vehicles explode when you shoot the gas tank... 
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Posted: 1/4/2019 8:31:10 AM EDT
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Miami Vice had lots of fun toys in their show over the years. My favorite was the High Standard 10 shotguns from a couple of episodes... but really In It for the 90 round Snail Drum Magazine & B.F. Lazer Sighted AR... http://i48.tinypic.com/30sh6cn.jpg 
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Posted: 1/4/2019 8:32:00 AM EDT
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What about the Shoot the Gas Tank - Explode the Vehicle shoot? It isn't the 70's - 80's if you don't have vehicles explode when you shoot the gas tank... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need to commission a steel target in a donut shape to simulate a car tire. Can't be retro-cop without shooting out a car tire, yo. It isn't the 70's - 80's if you don't have vehicles explode when you shoot the gas tank... |
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Posted: 1/4/2019 8:47:00 AM EDT
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It's only semi-auto, but my Mac-11 would work great.  
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