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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:35:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: The meeting is scheduled for 2:00 PM eastern. All field reps are required to return to their respective terminals for a mandatory teleconference at the same hour. I'm not sure if the meetings are the same or separate for the reps. Things are way worse for AB than they are allowing the public to know. I got this info from a person I know that orders for a bar. His rep told him this a short time ago. I wonder if it's the official death of Bud Light? Congrats to all. I'm doing my part too. I've loved AB Light pilsner beers for decades. Not anymore...or ever again under any circumstances. 
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:36:02 PM EDT
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I talked to a biker bar tender last night. This biker bar consumes exclusively 95% Budweiser and Bud Light. She said that they’ve seen some switching to Coors banquet beer and some microbrews. Those staunch Bud supporters are not drinking Bud Light. They’re just drinking bud instead.
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:36:32 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They already own Corona Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Bud will buy up Two X's and Corona They already own Corona |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:37:05 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So what. Call me a transphobe. I don't care. They are freaks. I hear you but they care. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:37:12 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Look at it this way. Memorial Day is coming up. Not a big beer drinking holiday, but any 3 day weekend will see beer consumption increase over a regular weekend. Then comes June, which is Pride Month. Many of the LGBTQ community are choosing to boycott BUD. After Pride month comes the 4th of July. Two holidays can make a great year for a brewer. 4th of July and Labor Day. Bad weather on either/both can turn a regular year into a bad year. BUD is already having a bad year. Will it sink them? Likely not, we are only 30% of their market. Will it cause them a great deal of financial pain? Yes. Why are the alphabet soup people boycotting them? Chicago gay bars boycott Anheuser-Busch for distancing itself from Dylan Mulvaney  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:37:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed, but that's usually only the case if there really isn't a decent alternative product. I think that's what has helped this one. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Conservatives are generally terrible when it comes to boycotts. We tend to go back to buying the offending companies shit. I expected the same thing with Bud Light. But it seems to be sticking and people are not going back to buying it. They truly struck a nerve in the country where I think people finally said enough is enough. Agreed, but that's usually only the case if there really isn't a decent alternative product. I think that's what has helped this one. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:38:10 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted: a short time ago. I've loved AB Light pilsner beers for decades. I bet you're cheap date... 
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:38:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:40:49 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The simple fact of the matter is that for a good number of people, they don't believe in what they think is OK, they believe in what they think other people think is OK. I'm fine with corporations merely sitting it out and not contributing further to clown world culture no matter what it is that they actually believe deep down inside. That would be a big enough win on it's own. The big picture is the beliefs and perceptions of the general public. If we can get that straightened out, we are going to be OK. Even right now with this Bud Light thing, if the only thing we got out of it is that corporations silently back away from supporting and normalizing groomers, it'd be a huge win. I don't care if Bud Light fights for what's right, I just don't want to see them fighting for what's wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe. I'm doubtful though. Companies need to stay out of politics. Remember the left's outrage over the 'corporate personhood' ruling? This was when the courts cleared companies to spend money on political issues and have an opinion. The left was in full blown outrage for a couple years because they assumed all corporations would be conservative. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, they celebrate it. Funny how that works. Conservatives should have seen this coming for a long long time. Edit: My statement above "Companies need to stay out of politics." is merely a personal preference. By no means am I advocating that companies should be silenced by groups or regulated into silence. As a small business owner, I know that many of my clients are left-leaning. It would be dumb of me to bring social issues into my business. I believe there are two sides to the "stay out of politics" coin. If a company can truly stay neutral, I'm all for it. That said, I'd rather know if a company's leadership hates my guts vs. having them run silent while taking my money. The simple fact of the matter is that for a good number of people, they don't believe in what they think is OK, they believe in what they think other people think is OK. I'm fine with corporations merely sitting it out and not contributing further to clown world culture no matter what it is that they actually believe deep down inside. That would be a big enough win on it's own. The big picture is the beliefs and perceptions of the general public. If we can get that straightened out, we are going to be OK. Even right now with this Bud Light thing, if the only thing we got out of it is that corporations silently back away from supporting and normalizing groomers, it'd be a huge win. I don't care if Bud Light fights for what's right, I just don't want to see them fighting for what's wrong. That’s not happening. These corporations are infested with people that ardently believe in all this nonsense, hoisted by their own petard of wokeness to deflect away from their destructive economic and corporate actions in the late 90s early 2000s. The majority are woke global entities that have nothing but disdain for America and Americans. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:40:49 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m a field rep and I’m sitting at my house, I don’t think the owners have left town either. Maybe a regional thing You may be right....very well could be regional. Got the info via a FL rep. Are you at home because there is no work? |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:41:13 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There needs to be a house cleaning in the C-suite at A/B InBev. Starting with their CEO and the social justice warrior VP of Marketing. Anything short of that is a complete failure by their board of directors. I know you know this but the BoD’s are all former C-suite’ers or spouses/relatives of politicians, etc. They look out for their own. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:42:50 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe. I'm doubtful though. Companies need to stay out of politics. Remember the left's outrage over the 'corporate personhood' ruling? This was when the courts cleared companies to spend money on political issues and have an opinion. The left was in full blown outrage for a couple years because they assumed all corporations would be conservative. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, they celebrate it. Funny how that works. Conservatives should have seen this coming for a long long time. Edit: My statement above "Companies need to stay out of politics." is merely a personal preference. By no means am I advocating that companies should be silenced by groups or regulated into silence. As a small business owner, I know that many of my clients are left-leaning. It would be dumb of me to bring social issues into my business. I guarantee the tranny was NOT AB’s idea. They are ordered by the institutional investors (who are ordered by Black Rock) to push this. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:43:04 PM EDT
[#13]
I may get laughed at, but drink Schlitz. It's owned by Pabst Brewing Co.
It's a fantastic Pre prohibition Pilsner. What Bud wanted to be and probably was before it changed. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:45:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:47:40 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The screeching would be epic IF the corporate folks backed down but they won't or can't ..makes no difference. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:49:34 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They're going to hold back their brands that are still selling and force cheap beer buyers into a single choice. It would be a pretty simple calculation and would probably break a good % of the boycott. Not as long as another company can meet the demands. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:49:45 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A few weeks ago a young MAN died as a result of surgically turning his ass into a vagina. Warrior death right there. 
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:50:57 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I may get laughed at, but drink Schlitz. It's owned by Pabst Brewing Co. It's a fantastic Pre prohibition Pilsner. What Bud wanted to be and probably was before it changed. I haven't even seen any Schlitz since they went under. I used to occasionally buy a six of Schlitz Malt Liquor stove pipes just to relive my days of slumming it as a broke college student. Just a FYI: Pabst has no actual brewing capacity. All of their brands are manufactured for them by another brewer(s), not that it really makes a difference. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:51:01 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I may get laughed at, but drink Schlitz. It's owned by Pabst Brewing Co. It's a fantastic Pre prohibition Pilsner. What Bud wanted to be and probably was before it changed. I doubt I ever drank any of the original Schlitz. I do remember drinking Schlitz malt liquor. I remember Falstaff a couple of times. I don’t want to sound like Battlestar Galactica, but this has all happened before, it will all happen again. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:52:05 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe a big part of their predicament is their product last 90 days from manufacture. Depending on the market there are piles of the stuff that is a week from being OOD. Gas stations and grocery stores do buy ins from distributors for large amounts delivered all at once with the same date that are based off of historical sales data. If people stop or even slow down on one brand it can cause millions in completely unrecoverable losses. That's just the actual beer in stores not including stock market speculations about the brands viability going forward. This hiccup the longer it lasts will cause the distributors to have to pick up monumental amounts of OOD beer that they can't sell. In some markets the law prohibits the beer from being taken back by the distributors and replaced. That's going to make a lot of ill will and skeptical bulk buyer moving forward also. All this because of a mistake by one woman LOL. That has to be a bad feeling. Very well said, but shelf life hasn't been 90 days since the early 1990's. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:55:30 PM EDT
[#21]
this aged well.
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:55:34 PM EDT
[#22]
They'll probably double down!! Self-destruction of woke corporation. Good riddance!
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:56:49 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We need deets on what it's going on at the meeting. Deets is a made up word that conveys the user's linguistic laziness; or worse yet, ignorance.  |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:57:23 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That graphic is wrong. Pacifico, Modelo, Corona brands are all imported by Constellation brands. Inbev only owns them outside the US. Imported by Constellation is correct. Care to guess who owns the Modelo brewery in Mexico ? |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:59:22 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll be very surprised if AB changes their stance on this. This. They are owned by the ESG mafia. I'm not sure what happens next but unless they are sold to another company it will simply be restructured around the current product demand. Someone out there is working on a restructuring that simply shuffles the deck. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:01:30 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I talked to a biker bar tender last night. This biker bar consumes exclusively 95% Budweiser and Bud Light. She said that they’ve seen some switching to Coors banquet beer and some microbrews. Those staunch Bud supporters are not drinking Bud Light. They’re just drinking bud instead. That’ll show em’! |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:02:56 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I doubt I ever drank any of the original Schlitz. I do remember drinking Schlitz malt liquor. I remember Falstaff a couple of times. I don’t want to sound like Battlestar Galactica, but this has all happened before, it will all happen again. Well, I drank a ton of that crap outta buckets at Mean Mr. Mustard's. Horrible stuff. Never wanted to try it again. Found out they went back to the original recipe a few years ago and bought a six. Very tasty. Hard to find here in CMH, but Savor had some. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:04:00 PM EDT
[#28]
This will just be forgotten and the SPORTSBALL guys will go back to sipping BL decked out in their Nike gear real soon...
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:05:15 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I talked to a biker bar tender last night. This biker bar consumes exclusively 95% Budweiser and Bud Light. She said that they’ve seen some switching to Coors banquet beer and some microbrews. Those staunch Bud supporters are not drinking Bud Light. They’re just drinking bud instead. Kudos to the bikers that didn't put their personal needs above the right thing to do. To the others...well...they are just part of the problem. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:06:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is is too difficult to use details? Deets is a made up word that conveys the user's linguistic laziness; or worse yet, ignorance.  |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:06:17 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hear you but they care. They may care because they have commie fascist Anti-American leanings. My view of America supersedes theirs when they promote social decay and glamorizing deviants. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:07:44 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This shit isn't just political. It's disgusting. A man is celebrated for mental illness and considered brave for dressing up like a woman. It's nasty as fuck and any company who promotes it should go out of business as far as I'm concerned. I won't be back until the top people at AB are living in a cardboard box having to suck dick for moldy bread to eat. Fuck them and everyone else who champions this shit. Good cop....bad cop. Good one right here^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:08:14 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You may be right....very well could be regional. Got the info via a FL rep. Are you at home because there is no work? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m a field rep and I’m sitting at my house, I don’t think the owners have left town either. Maybe a regional thing You may be right....very well could be regional. Got the info via a FL rep. Are you at home because there is no work? No it’s my usual hours, thankfully my company has a good amount of products that are unaffiliated with AB and we are doing pretty well with that stuff lately. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:08:20 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Imported by Constellation is correct. Care to guess who owns the Modelo brewery in Mexico ? Constellation brands owns, brews, bottles and distributes, and markets Modelo and corona for the US. They own a perpetual license |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:11:56 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Constellation brands owns, brews, bottles and distributes, and markets Modelo and corona for the US. They own a perpetual license Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Imported by Constellation is correct. Care to guess who owns the Modelo brewery in Mexico ? Constellation brands owns, brews, bottles and distributes, and markets Modelo and corona for the US. They own a perpetual license Parent company is ABI |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:12:42 PM EDT
[#36]
But I have heard repeatedly- right here on arfcom, that 99+% of beer drinkers couldn't care less, so why is there a priority distributor meeting?
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:13:53 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Constellation brands owns, brews, bottles and distributes, and markets Modelo and corona for the US. They own a perpetual license Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Imported by Constellation is correct. Care to guess who owns the Modelo brewery in Mexico ? Constellation brands owns, brews, bottles and distributes, and markets Modelo and corona for the US. They own a perpetual license 
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:14:18 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There's nothing they can do. Whatever they do will be called transphobic. What is your point? The only correct outcome is for Butt light to end as a product, costing AB billions, and knocking some sense into corporate America. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:14:21 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Parent company is ABI "The transaction establishes Crown as a fully owned entity of Constellation, and provides Constellation with independent brewing operations, Modelo's full profit stream from all U.S. sales, and rights in perpetuity to the Grupo Modelo brands distributed by Crown in the U.S. " Spelled out pretty clearly here. https://www.cbrands.com/blogs/news/anheuser-busch-inbev-and-constellation-brands-announce-revised-agreement-for-complete-divestiture-of-u-s-business-of-grupo-modelo |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:14:31 PM EDT
[#40]
"Things are going to suck for 3-5 months until people forget, then everything will be back to normal."
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:15:32 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryLol that's Grupo Modelo. Has nothing to do with US operations. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:16:25 PM EDT
[#42]
Well, I'll guess that they are going to triple down. So they're telling the distributors to tell each customer that they'll pull all their stock from the establishments if their ustomers don't start hiring drag queen beer girls to promote the selling of AB products on Fri & Sat nights.
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:17:39 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Here are the meeting minutes. Due to the homophobic misinformation on social media. We have consulted with experts and have determined we need more diversity training. Seems legit .... |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:19:03 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "The transaction establishes Crown as a fully owned entity of Constellation, and provides Constellation with independent brewing operations, Modelo's full profit stream from all U.S. sales, and rights in perpetuity to the Grupo Modelo brands distributed by Crown in the U.S. " Spelled out pretty clearly here. https://www.cbrands.com/blogs/news/anheuser-busch-inbev-and-constellation-brands-announce-revised-agreement-for-complete-divestiture-of-u-s-business-of-grupo-modelo Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Parent company is ABI "The transaction establishes Crown as a fully owned entity of Constellation, and provides Constellation with independent brewing operations, Modelo's full profit stream from all U.S. sales, and rights in perpetuity to the Grupo Modelo brands distributed by Crown in the U.S. " Spelled out pretty clearly here. https://www.cbrands.com/blogs/news/anheuser-busch-inbev-and-constellation-brands-announce-revised-agreement-for-complete-divestiture-of-u-s-business-of-grupo-modelo I hear what youre saying but fact remains that ABI is still considered the parent company. Many ABI distributors in the US distribute those products even though they are imported thru Constellation. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:20:11 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My only concern about Bud or InBev is what happens to the Clydesdales. Ken-L-Ration cans. 
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:20:23 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This will just be forgotten and the SPORTSBALL guys will go back to sipping BL decked out in their Nike gear real soon... I have been hearing this for almost 6 weeks now. It hasn’t happened yet. I don’t doubt AB-InBev survives. Bud Light may not, though. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:20:36 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This will just be forgotten and the SPORTSBALL guys will go back to sipping BL decked out in their Nike gear real soon... Defeatism isn’t a good look for you. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:20:39 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course they're not going to change Anyone that thinks otherwise is just kidding themselves Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'll be very surprised if AB changes their stance on this. Of course they're not going to change Anyone that thinks otherwise is just kidding themselves |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:21:17 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hear what youre saying but fact remains that ABI is still considered the parent company. Many ABI distributors in the US distribute those products even though they are imported thru Constellation. Anheuser-Busch InBev and Constellation Brands Announce Revised Agreement for Complete Divestiture of U.S. Business of Grupo Modelo "The sale of the brewery, which is located near the Texas border, would ensure independence of supply for Crown and provides Constellation with complete control of the production of the Modelo brands for marketing and distribution in the U.S." AB is NOT the parent company in the US. What part of "Complete Divestiture" includes distributing an AB product? |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:21:21 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol that's Grupo Modelo. Has nothing to do with US operations. It's parent company is ABI, that many here are boycotting and many ABI distributors in the US have the rights to distribute those products. |
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